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A blight upon you all. May many pages be spammed and schizo rants posted.
Is there even a book of Raised by Wolves? Also post kino covers.
>>25422132Why do you hate us so?
>>25422369he's struggling with feelings of homosexuality he cannot accept.
>>25422369The failure to get rid of pagespammer is a mark against all of us.
>>25422154>delanygross
Just finished reading this kino for the first time. I know it's not exactly an underrated hidden gem, but everything kind of clicked into place for me about halfway through Brawne's story and I was absolutely floored when I realized what Simmons was going for.I'm definitely going to pick up Fall of Hyperion, but I understand the last two books are a let down. Am I good to stop after Fall, or are there unresolved plot threads where I need to see the series through to its end?
>>25422119A shame HBO canceled "Raised By Wolves."
>>25422624From what I understand the first two books were written together which is why the ending of book one is a cliffhanger. He wrote the Endymion books after the success of the first books. Yes, they are disappointing and the last book is full of bad retcons. FoH is a solid ending.
>>25422616Did he paint the cover? I didn't see you post any better anyway.
>>25422154
the book i'm reading has one of those covers that looks like something that's only meantto be cool and abstract but is actually just stuff in the book
>>25422154>Also post kino covers.
>>25422775I have this one in my to-read pile.
Finished the First Law trilogy and despite being really unsatisfied with the ending I can't stop thinking about it. I also found it really interesting how I spent the entirety of the last book coming up with excuses or trying to justify Logen's behavior until the end where I realized he's just kind of a piece of shit. Also I don't know why all the fanart of Logen makes him look like a fairly normal looking barbarian archetype when the book describes him as abjectly hideous.
>>25423065>excuses or trying to justify Logen's behavior until the end where I realized he's just kind of a piece of shit. red flag of shit writing if you cant at the very least give your villain a coherent motive even if your goal is to make him simply evil
>>25423100ntaHe's the protagonist.
>>25423100Logen isn't a villain, he's a piece of shit. Big difference. He's like a drunk that turns into a complete fucking asshole when he's on the bottle, but is surprisingly self-aware and even incredibly ashamed about his actions when he's off of it. Maybe one day he'll get the bear off his back?But no, he won't, because he likes how he feels to drink. He'd rather live with the shame and consequences than lose the drink.
>>25423148>But no, he won't, because he likes how he feels to drink. He'd rather live with the shame and consequences than lose the drink.Typical anti-hero characteristic desu. I've always hated how obsessed media is with the alcoholic that can't live without it trope. Feels like it abstracts suffering into the alcohol itself to the point where it's no longer real, or atleast not given the proper attention to be in favour for wallowing over how alcoholic the character is.
>>25423152My dad is a disgusting drunk that ruined my childhood and Logen rang pretty true.You're right it's a very typical deconstruction, but to be fair The Blade Itself came out 20 years ago and that type of subversion was less overdone in 2006.
Just finished this book. Pretty good. It actually managed to surprise me by the end. I thought it was going to be a retarded ending. But then it swerved, then swerved again, and before I had time to figure out where it was headed, it delivered a shocking conclusion. And the best part: it made total sense.I would recommend against getting the audiobook. The narrator wasn't a good fit for it, and almost ruined the book for me. She was trying too hard to sound young and innocent, and it just came across as poor anime voice acting. Especially when she voiced young boys. They all sounded super dorky and cheesy. I powered through her poor narration and enjoyed the story regardless. So I'd recommend getting the text instead.
>>25422624I couldn't finish the last two books. Endymion was so bad, I dropped it. I'd say don't even bother picking it up. Consider Fall of Hyperion the end. It ties up everything fine.
Matt Dinninman
>>25423276better or worse than dandelion dynasty?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79GPZSQHBk>race swapped Molly despite the fact they literally go to space Jamaica so no muh diversity excuse
>>25423456Is the black lady cute though?, if that's the case then It doesnt matter.
>>25423448Never read Dandelion Dynasty. But just looking at the summary on goodreads, it sounds like it has similar elements. What with two boys growing up to be on opposing sides, politically. Though The Poet Empress is told from the perspective of a young woman, vying to become a concubine for a prince.(I forgot her exact age. Somewhere between 16 and 20 I suppose) Being a poor farm girl, she's mostly ignorant of the courts, and has to learn, while avoiding deadly plots. What we know of the two boys are stories told to her. So while the story is largely about them, it's still her story.There isn't much adventure here, and only like 2 battles. It's mostly just plots, talking, and some low scale dangerous encounters.
Bone pirates
>>25423475I don't mind mostly politics and talking, sounds interesting just worried its romantasy will do some searching on it
>>25423488>just worried its romantasyThat it is most certainly not. Rest assured. There were a couple of romantasy scares in the second half of the book. I don't want to say what they were, because it would reveal too much about the story. But as it turns out, I was fretting over nothing. It didn't go that way at all.
>>25423494>>25423488I see good reads put a romantasy tag on it. But it's wrong! Totally wrong.
>>25423494>>25423496nice
>>25423276>>25423475>>25423494>>25423496This nigger reading chick-lit lmao
Are Alan Moore’s novels any good?
About 250 ebook pages today. More like 245 to be more exact. I'm surprised how many pages I've been tearing through this book. I've only really had to forcibly speed read one bad chapter, and it was the 2nd Jesa chapter. Wholly uninteresting character. I dont like Femur chapters either as hes uninteresting aswell, but the last one I read just ended very interestingly.
Who else loved Artemis by Andy Weir?Plebs be talking about The Martian and Project Hail Mary because they got turned into movies, but real niggas know Artemis is where it's at.Jazz Bashara is waifu material, a total Manic Pixie Dream Girl, but she is not some feminist girlboss; every time she encounters a fight, she runs away. And she is not some lesbian, either; she likes men, and has had a lot of boyfriends.The science is great (think Arthur C. Clarke), the politics are great (think Robert A. Heinlein), and the action is great (think Michael Crichton). I recommend it unreservedly.
Baen unironically has the best covers.
>>25423834I can't forgive them for the Kencyrath covers where they make the main character a big bimbo instead of an ethereally beautiful perflat tomboy
>>25423834I only have this book from them, do they have other sci-fi stuff? Most of my books are Bantam Spectra, Ballantine or ACE.
Just finished this, it's the direct sequel to 2001. What a great read, expands upon the first story and is a super interesting look at the future of humanity and our role in the universe. It reminds me of Childhood's End in some ways.The only reason I'm posting is because I have two gripes. One, Clarke simply can't stop sucking off Kubrick at every opportunity in the foreword and acknowledgment of both books. Two, he RETCONNED HIS OWN STORY. When he wrote 2010 (a direct sequel) he changed the events to match the 2001 film and not the novel. Who does that? Retard. Great stories either way. I'll get around to the other two one day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79GPZSQHBkneuromancer bros
140.
Kinda depression fuel reading this as someone who has seen addiction in family and friends since I was a kid, all the way until now
>>25423435HAAAAAAAAAA!
>>25423456Characters will keep turning black until morale improves.
>>25423834>words words wordsHeinlein can't meme.
>>25423882>2001How is it compared to the movie? I couldn't stand Kubrick's joint.
>>25423895see >>25423456
What’s that bitch Sandy up to??? I read there is no Mistborn until 2027 and stormlight until 203x???? WTF where is Elantris 2???
What books have the best/longest descriptions of how big and round female characters boobs are?
>>25424371Elantris 2 is gonna be ass. He's become such a fucking redditor that he'll butcher all the interesting parts of that world.
I remember the Black Company series as my entry point into dark/gritty fantasy and they weren't bad books. Eventually I got literally tired of the long stretches of nothing in between the actian and quit the series around the time they won their civil war in fantasy vietnam.Recently I found out that there are 4 more books called the Empire of the Sun or something. Same protagonists, same universe.Are they wort it?
>>25424371The Cosmere will never be complete.
>>25424623That's extremely outdated.
>>25424371He just keeps starting new side projects, then gets bored with those and starts newer side projects.
>>25424452He's actually gotten worse at writing dialogue. He was never good at it, but he didn't used to be so terrible at it. Reading Elantris again, I can remember why people had such high hopes for him as an author. It was a strong stand-alone novel.
>>25424470ill bump u so u get ur answer
>>25424166I know it's shocking, but the novel is way better than the movie. HAL goes from switch-flip evil AI to a more nuanced degradation, and the story actually gives context as to why. It also has a much more satisfying beginning and ending, with the ape-men getting 3 or 4 chapters to themselves and a lot more explanation about what the obelisk does, and the ending goes from lolwut 2deep4u to a (relatively) sophisticated look about how people and intelligence fits in the universe.
>>25424645It's still accurate in many ways. We have >mistborn era 3 trilogy>mistborn era 4 trilogy series finale (these will be Stormlight-length books btw)>Elantris 2 and 3>warbreaker 2>back half stormlight>dragonsteel (was going to be 10 books but he scaled it down to a trilogy supposedly)>whatever he does with Hoid's backstory20 books right there alone at a rough estimate.
>>25425078https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24968637#p24968728As stated at the end here, he'll probably give up on doing a lot of it. The next State of the Sanderson will say more again.
I quit reading during house of chains. I'm sorry anon, I have failed you
>>25425286what the fuck if you weren't cheering and crying great manly tears at the exploits of Karsa Orlong then you are no anon of mine
>>25425310best part of the book but by god has it dragged on
>>25425369you read the previous trilogy before this, right? i don't recall you talking about it one way or another.
>>25425411
I may read the original trilogy after this one depending on how quickly I finish it.
>>25425449oh that's just marketing fluff. it's like when BioWare said that Mass Effect 3 was the fantastic place to start Mass Effect.you'd have to be a genuine retard to skip it. well, if the sepia fits...
I've read ~500 novels with less than 10,000, ~200 with less than 1,000, ~100 with less than 500, ~20 with less than 100, and 4 with ~10 ratings on Goodreads. I guess I read relatively obscure stuff that isn't megapopular.
>>25425286Did you atleast finish Book One of chains? Leoman of the flails is fucking based.
Started reading Babel and was starting to enjoy it, but then the Chinese kid meets the Indian kid and its suddenly gay, because women can't imagine two men being friends without it being homoerotic. Was it enough that he was a foreigner in strange land? No, of course not. He needed to be gay too to really up the oppression. Why are women like this?
>>25425608Good for you. Now let's hear about all those hidden gems you uncovered wading through the refuse.
>>25425611House of Chains, Book 2 Chapter 10>From the stone statue of Bairoth emerged a distant, weary voice. 'Lead us, Warleader.'>Karsa flinched. Do I dream this? Then he straightened. 'I have drawn your spirits to this place. Did you travel in the wake of the Seven?'>'We have walked the empty lands,' Bairoth Gild replied. 'Empty, yet we were not alone. Strangers await us all, Karsa Orlong. This is the truth they would hide from you. We are summoned. We are here.'>'None,' came Delum Thord's voice from the other statue, 'can defeat you on this journey. You lead the enemy in circles, you defy every prediction, and so deliver the edge of your will. We sought to follow, but could not.'>'Who, Warleader,' Bairoth asked, his voice bolder, 'is our enemy, now?'>Karsa drew himself up before the two Uryd warriors. 'Witness my answer, my friends. Witness
>>25425625>Delum spoke, 'We failed you, Karsa Orlong. Yet you invite us to walk with you once again.'>Karsa fought back an urge to scream, to unleash a warcry – as if such a challenge might force back the approaching darkness. He could make no sense of his own impulses, the torrential emotions threatening to engulf him. He stared at the carved likeness of his tall friend, the awareness in those unmarred features – Delum Thord before the Forkassal – the Forkrul Assail named Calm – had, on a mountain trail on a distant continent, so casually destroyed him.>Bairoth Gild spoke. 'We failed you. Do you now ask that we walk with you?'>'Delum Thord. Bairoth Gild.' Karsa's voice was hoarse. 'It is I who failed you. I would be your warleader once more, if you would so permit me.'>A long moment of silence, then Bairoth replied, 'At last, something to look forward to.'>Karsa almost fell to his knees, then. Grief, finally unleashed. At an end, his time of solitude. His penance was done. The journey to begin again. Dear Urugal, you shall witness. Oh, how you shall witness.
>>25425608>megapopularI'm glad another anon has taken up the torch. You should post your GR or talk about your favorite lesser-known stories.Remember that "lesser-known", to this general, is anything non-megapopular. Even RR, who sold more stories to Asimov's magazine than anybody else, is not popular enough for the normalfag 100IQ filth ITT to read.
>>25425621>>25425634But, I do, regularly!
>>25425634>Even RR, who sold more stories to Asimov's magazine than anybody else, is not popular enough for the normalfag 100IQ filth ITT to read.I would've read Marrow by now, Marrow-shill anon. I generally respect the efforts of selfless shills here. But when I looked it up it looked really really bland and derivative and boring from every angle, and I can't bring myself to even try it.
>>25425637But why is it bland to you, anon?To be fair, the expanded 'universe' may be more interesting -- a Jovian-sized spaceship circumnavigating the galaxy like a cruise vessel, taking in fucktons of different alien species, with their own (sometimes world-sized) habitats. The short stories and potential of the 'verse is interesting. I drifted off Marrow my first time but came back years later and liked it. Then I read the sequel which became one of my favorite novels ever. And my autistic ass got drawn into the depth and scope of the 'verse. There is a lot of real cool shit if you get invested. I stop rambling now.
On a bit of a Heilein kick at the moment. I'm enjoying his "second-rate" stuff a lot more than I did his "masterpieces"
These are actually awesome.First good shit I've read in a while scifi/fan.Is there more stuff of this quality where its focused around travel?
oh great another silverfish thread.
>>25425644>x is bad because i said so>no replywhat a surprise
>>25425717Absence of pagespammer has reverted the thread to simplicity
>>25425717I googled who the most published author in Asimov's was because of your riddly obfuscationism. That's all the effort you get from me.
>>25425731Okay? I wasn't lying or trying to make something up. Even the man himself acknowledges that the 'zine refers to him as a 'prolific' author.But I guess he isn't GRRM and didn't start any novel with a brother and sister fucking each other so your fucking gay incestual self didn't like it.
>>25425736Is there much incest in his works? I do find that appealing.
>>25425653I love the game aspect of those stories. First we get the rules - the X who do Y - then we watch the stream as the X do in fact do Y.
>>25425736Yes. He is worse than GRRM. Cry about it.
>>25425738Did you skim my fucking post? The entire MEGAPOPULAR GLOBALLY-ACCLAIMED TELEVISION SERIES-HAVING NORMALFAG DICK-CHOKING series literally begins within either the first or the first few chapters (please forgive me, I read ASOIAF around 2008/2009 and never reread (I read Dance when it came out)) with the local land-holding serf-to-the-king hosting some event involving the king's son and daughter.A son of the guy hosting the event, Bran, climbs the building and discovers the king's son and daugher fucking>FUCKING>HAVING SEX>NORMALFAGS ARE OKAY AND LOVE THIS and they kick his ass off the building, crippling him for several books.Normalfags love this and shitpost over years and years and threads and threads about how this is the PINNACLE>PEAK>TOP>OBJECTIVE HEIGHTof writing and fantasy and literature.Absolute mind-boggling. I genuinely believe in eugenics.
>>25425749As incest-in-popular-fiction goes ASOIAF is middle of the road. I prefer Amityville II
>>25425755GL trying to have a civil discussion with the GRRMfags, like the immediately-dismissive newfag bitch right above my previous post.
>>25425797>mad that GRRM is popular and a good writer and can't appeal to "le niche book = better!"kekamogus
>>25425827You are at the baseline of 100IQ normalcy and will never experience a creative thought in your life lol
>>25425827>GRRM>goodNo need to exaggerate. He's average at best.
>>25425827>le2014 newfag queer LMAO
>>25425286Well at least you can say you gave the series a fair shake. There's no point in forcing yourself to read something you're not enjoying, especially huge tomes like the Malazan books are.
>>25424371Apple TV have given him a Stormlight Archives show and are letting him be showrunner and headwriter, its going to be ten episodes and air ??? and he's also working on the Mistborn film they're doing, then Netflix is adapting his Skyward series which he is co-writing and its being made by Netflix's One Piece live action team.
>>25425828>>25425832>>25425837GRRM is better than your favorite writer
>>25426378>better than Tolkienlol no
>Gene Wolfe>R. Scott Bakker>Karl Edward Wagner>Brandon Sanderson>Frank Herbert
>>25425653>one of the alien species are called Wankh
>>25426378>George R. R. Martin>better than Eliezer Yudkowsky
>>25426378>GRRM is betterYou are between the ages of 12-25 and a newfag. :\
>>25425746I can't tell if you really enjoyed it or if you're taking the piss.
>>25426378This is true for me because Pierce Brown is not a great writer, but like a good American, I'm addicted to the slop. Mmm.
>>25425749>I genuinely believe in eugenicsWhy wouldn't you? It just makes sense.
>>25425608decent (maybe not amazing) books under 1000 reviews I own after skimming through my list are:dr. adder/the glass hammer/death arms, noir and farewell horizontal by jeter, frontera by shiner, down to a sunless sea by graham and the sky lord trilogy by brosnandr. adder should really be better known, if it's not just a marketing gimmick the book was written well ahead of its time. ('72)
>>25426702forgot to say nta
I'll be starting Project Hail Mry tonight, since I saw the movie and enjoyed it. I heard the book is much more technical, which I'm looking forward to.
>>25426843Anons here said the movie was an improvement over the book.
>>25426858Anons here say a lot of things.
>>25426843>I'll be sciencing the shit out of Project Hail Mary tonight
>>25426877It's for children, but Redwall.
>>25422119The Fist of Memory is an action-thriller that emphasizes the complementary nature of science and spirituality. As with most of Talabi's work this is set in Nigeria, distinctively so through his word choice and references. This had me looking up a lot of nouns to see what their cultural context and significance was. Doing so isn't necessary, though I find it interesting to know more. The year is 2050 and Nigeria is far more developed but its political crises remain. Many of the characters have an augmented intelligence implant that is trained on their neural output to provide personalized assistance. There are several other technological advances that I found to be both reasonable and integrated well into daily life. The spiritual matters aren't about organized religion so much as accepting that there's more to existence than material reality and more to knowledge than science.There are five perspectives. Two women, two men, and the alien entity. Two are killers, one is a scientist, one is a personal assistant, and again an alien entity. Three are Nigerians, one is South African, and the other is most recently from over 200 light years away. Four are in 3rd person and one is in 1st person perspective.This book is primarily action-oriented. Gun fights, fist fights, car chases, and explosions. There's a lot of violence and drama between the four human viewpoints. In the last quarter melodrama and metaphysics take over. The entity only has a brief role at the end, but that's all it needs, and it's the culmination of the book's theme.If it weren't for how the ending entirely changes the context of everything that came before I would rate this 5 stars. I can deal with the narrative telling me that all the parts that I thought were cool, fun, and stylish were actually pitiable, wretched, and self-destructive. I can respect, or at least tolerate, perspectives that go against mine. However, there are a few ideas that I feel an irrational amount of disappointment towards and the central theme of the novel is revealed to be one of them.This is a predictable book with obvious consequences. I believe that doing so was intentional. We choose the actions of our lives with predictable consequence and blind or delude ourselves into not seeing their inevitable outcome. The irony was that I was the same as the characters. The text told me several times how the book would end. But, I ignored that and thought "This surface level spectacle sure is cool, fun, and stylish!" Then the end came and I could deny no longer. I want to emphasize this is a personal problem and that it's made me an outlier with other books that have done similarly and are both popular and greatly enjoyed. To say what it is would do more than spoil the plot. I feel that it would undermine the experience of the emotional journey that reading this book is.Rating: 4/5Releases Oct 27th 2026
>>25426925your """reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25426880That's what anons do. They drink and they know things.
I'll consider requesting upcoming books for those interested in wanting to know about them. I probably won't do it because there's so much else to read, but I'll definitely consider it. Maybe I'll even be able to get Red God months before its release. Not that it probably matters all that much considering other big titles I've posted about here in advance. It's a fun thing to do from time to time though.
>>25426925>The year is 2050 and Nigeria is far more developedThis is "why can't you accept a 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i in your fantasy book" tier.
>>25426969I don't see any issue with having one in a contemporary urban fantasy novel. You didn't specify.
I tried reading Red Rising but it feels like it was written for retarded 8 year olds
>>25426974>hurrdurr you didn't specifyNewfag.
>>25426969Specfically it's Lagos, which is admittedly far different than rest of the country. It's typical for a lot of countries to have their major urban centers to be much more developed than anywhere else by far.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos
>>25426982Your feelings need not be hurt over not acknowledging your meme.
>>25426979It is, but Golden Son is significantly better, Morning Star is a slight step sideways, Iron Gold is a single jump in the air, Dark Age is a half-step bsckwards then a two full leg lengths forwards, and then Lightbringer is a single step forward. It remains to be seen whether Red God steps forward or turns 360° and walks away.
>>25426991Too late. Death be upon you.
>>25427024Thank you for the stones. I appreciate you gathering them and tossing them to me. I'm sure they'll polish well.
>>25426979I heard the author has a harem of brappy tumblr girls
>>25427044His fans fart a lot?
>>25426979Many such cases
>>25427049Are you imagining the smell?
>>25427060>implying all scifi isn't like this
>>25427070That depends, are they attractive tumblerinas or weird gross landwhale ones who outsource their sexuality to m/m shipping?
>>25427014>turns 360° and walks awayThe entire series is already moonwalking all over the self respect of anybody reading it.
>>25427104Close your eyes. Cancel out the noise. Let your olfactory sense take over. Be guided only by smell.
>>25425621nta but here are all the books I've enjoyed with fewer than 500 reviews:Bayne's ClimbUnder the MountainMage Hunter OmnibusThe Night Land: A Story RetoldThe Broken LandsThe Black MountainsArdneh's WorldDon Rodriguez: Chronicles of Shadow ValleyA Harvest of Ash and BloodIn ViriconiumDoomstalker
>>25427107This isn't a series for deep inteospection, it's a power fantasy series where deep pain for the character is followed by FAFO action sequences in a series of ups and downs that slowly ramps from limited playground roughhousing to full on interplanetary war. All books in the series are judged on that criteria, which is why IG and DA are generally considered worse. Pierce does a better job of giving us more 3 dimensional characters but falls for the trap of trying to provide deeper meaning throughout IG. DA then has to spend half the book trying to fix those issues, which never really go away fully, even in LB. But in general, it has stayed true to form as action combat space opera power fantasy wish fulfillment with the central backdrop of extreme and beneficial eugenics.
>>25425749The point you're making isn't very clear to me.The incest in GoT is not depicted positively. It's a scandalous thing, done by bad characters, and it's the inciting incident for the entire book. It's also just one scene of many.
>>25427141Don't bother. He's a retard who believes inclusion of a theme in fiction is the same as sanctioning it in real life. He is an imbecile like so many others. Wattpad freak.
>>25427122>DA then has to spend half the book trying to fix those issues, which never really go away fully, even in LB. But in general, it has stayed true to form as action combat space opera power fantasy wish fulfillment with the central backdrop of extreme and beneficial eugenics.Jesus whats so bad about trying to inject deeper meaning in your characters, how bad do you have to be at thematic exploration and character writing for people to think any attempt at that needs to be fixed in the next book
>>25425653Most of Jack Vance's works are like that.
>>25422119I I've been trying to finish *Toll the Hounds* for three months. Please help
>>25427177The attempt was poorly done, which is why he rightfully then had to fix it. Nothing is wrong with deep meaning in scifi, but the genre doesn't lend itself to that in the way that standard adult fiction does. There's too much other bullshit going on for it to be truly impactful. In IG, Pierce immediately introduces competing political factions in his 10-year tike skip post-MS world. In the previous trilogy that spent almost 0 time discussing the economic structure of the world, suddenly we're supposed to care about the nuances of Dancer's space congress, except of course its bleak and a poor mirror of modern politics.And of course it gives ample opportunity for the Core to go, see, it was a mistake, and then we're launched into the next four books. This is generally a mistake. Red Rising is at its best when vendettas are personal, when Darrow is hunting the people who ruined his life and bringing together a misfit crew of oddballs and rejects to get it done. Red Rising does not perform well in high-brow space opera where hate is institutional and the war machine ignites because of ideological reasons, of which we srill barely know anything even with the introduction of Quicksilver and Ephraim. Ephraim, who later had to die to amend the mistake of introducing war economy logistics woes into a series about raining tubes of iron down on a planet filled with space marines it takes decades to train. So, yea.We wanted more of the anger and violence that was Darrow plotting to fuck up Augustus' and Octavia's world. What we got was Darrow doing the in-universe version of a desk job. Depth isn't a sin unless you introduce it in book 4.
>>25427122Red Rising is fun as mindless entertainment, but you could also view it as satire. I mean Darrow is directly responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths but he's viewed as the hero because of his ideology and how most readers become biased towards his perspective. The series is basically, "what if Mao Zedong was a superhuman gigachad in space along with being a brilliant strategist".Unfortunately the author cucked out and made Darrow some liberal democratic dweeb after the time skip. Lysander is the only fun character out of the POVs.
>>25427221Well that just sounds like he cant do political themes well. I've always thought that from the first book and how the Gold ideology makes zero sense when you think about a historical timeline.
>>25425653Try the Durdane series next.Amazing stuff. Sad that we will never get more Jack Vance.
>>25427146>Wattpad freakI'm stealing this.
>>25427014I bought Lightbringer 2 years ago but couldn't bring myself to re-read the whole thing because I've forgotten most of the characters.Might just as well drop it altogether, it's not bad but not great either.
>>25427232To some extent I agree. I don't hate some of the other POVs. Lyria sucks and her entire storyline is pointless. Virginia can be fun but the return of the Jackal was genuinely retarded. Darrow needs to die. I think Lysander is certainly the most interesting, though I think the ramp up to his decision to commit biowarfare is somewhat sudden.>>25427237That would generally be a correct interpretation. True political drama is one of the hardest things to get right, because it's so susceptible to constant injection of your prior-held beliefs to a point where the reader is being hit over the head with your point. It's why so many who attempt create half-baked poorly thought out versions that read like intro to poli sci 101. He has moved away from this, in his defense. We're generally back on track with stupid plans, extreme viilence, personal ambition and hate, and eugenics programs that would make Adolf Eichman raise an eyebrow.
>>25427262I think what the author was going for was the psyche/parasite and the Eidmi being diametrically opposed super weapons, with the psyche coming out on top. Basically Lysander would use the Blue Eidmi to kill nearly all of the Republic and Rim Blues, rendering their fleets and complex war machines near helpless. The psyche, with the ability to control the fleets and machines remotely without need for the Blues, would counteract it and result in Lysander's defeat. Pax would be the recipient of the technology because of his Blue training. Unfortunately the author cucked out again and Lyria's storyline was rendered completely useless.
>>25427276Which would have been an interesting climax to the larger theme of man and technology as weapons of war, both separate and intertwined. I blame Darrow as a character. Without Darrow, RR is meaningless, yet if Darrow does not die, RR will be meaningless. We're just chugging along at this point. If Eidme and psyche were to become the focal point of this series, Darrow goes to wayside, which would have been fine if IG and DA weren't basically dedicated to Darrow's ever expanding personal control of the entire solar system. Brown is forced to include him in any major event, which meant that Lyria by necessity had to become completely useless.
>>25427295Yeah the series would have been better if Darrow and Sevro both died in Dark Age, leaving the Republic flailing with it's survival uncertain. Would have killed book sales but made for a better story. Instead it's now another Marvel tier capeshit story with Darrow becoming Odysseus along with some sort of Taoist warrior monk. Very strange.
>>25427307Probably. Maybe even IG. I think if he truly wanted to introduce political or even just ideological complexity, he needed to start the book with anything but Darrow sitting on Mars attending Congress sessions with Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and the Ghost of Christmas Past. If you've created a republic why not do the republic thing and delegate responsibility? Nope, Darrow needs a reason to personally go fight the inner rim, and so now there's a terrorist attack and all those factions we just met will dissolve into nothing. I'm just ranting at this point. Despite all this, I am looking forward to Red God. I'm just equally looking forward to the series being over, and maybe Pierce getting to take what he's learned and write a new series.
Hanuman li Tosh's shaida eyes...
I kinda just dont understand how or why Patrick Rothfuss became relevant. What was so significant about Name of the Wind that I'm seeing this retard quoted infront of books as if his praise of a book should mean anything to me
>>25427390SHARINGAN! NIGGA!
>>25427394two thingsthe first is the most ironic, which is that he announced that his big epic fantasy series was finished before even the first book was published. this was announced in a time when lots of series were being abandoned or taking forever, so he immediately stood out.the second is that people started saying he had good prose. very few people can recognize good prose. what mostly happens is that wait for another person to say something is good prose and they repeat it. so he became the "it's fantasy but, like, with good writing!!" guy, which is a title we pass around every 5 years or so.so the two things combined and very quickly he became popular and was ushered into being a new, important face in fantasyeventually it all collapsed but his impact on marketing is still felt even now
Considering buying The Windup Girl since I like its premise but it feels like it was produced by the Clinton Foundation and I can’t shake the feeling. Is it any good?
>>25427484https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=6597651
>>25427212the last 150 pages of so of that book are good as fuck
>>25427497Cool! Thanks to you and this turkish guy.
>>25427484His collection Pump Six is good
This Moorcock guy can't write for shit
>>25427418>his big epic fantasy series was finished before even the first book was publishedThis is the first time I've heard this so it seems strange that there isn't more outrage about it being a blatant lie. People only seem to bring up him welching on the charity chapter.
>>25427583There was a ton of outrage, it's just cooled over the last 15 years. Like GRRM he hasn't been totally silent, he's continuously revised his plan and given additional excuses for why his initial one fell through.The charity chapter fiasco was only 4 years ago and was a lot more obviously fucked up.
>>25427583>there isn't more outrage about it being a blatant lieMost people active in /sffg/ communities are sniveling little worms, go on /r/fantasy and see what they're likebut even still, Rothfuss did get a fair amount of backlash
>enter thread>another 100IQ baseline normalfag circlejerk of <megapopular series here>>>25427119My only brother in this thread.>>25427394I feel the same. I read them when they were relevant. I have not reread them nor referenced them ever but I constantly see normalfags ITT whose only book series they ever read was Rothfuss shit so they defend him to the death.If you genuinely believe that (YOU)R favorite book or series is perfect and flawless then you are young, naive, ignorant, and a bad faith actor who will get laughed out of any real life meatspace interaction.>>25427583even his editor said that she believed he hasn't written shit related to book 3.it's like normalfags pick a completely random megapopular author out of their ass to place on a pedestal.
Stephen Baxter's Raft has been pretty cool with lots of fun ideas. It's one of those SF books where the author must have sat down and thought "I know a tremendous amount about this subject and I need to get it all on paper, plot and characterization and prose be damned", and I have a soft spot for that type of thingit's a book with a lot to say about gravity. the main conflict is that long ago a spaceship and crew blundered into some portal by mistake and ended up (premise spoilers, not anything major) in an alternate universe where the effect of gravity is much, much stronger. some of the crew survive and are able to eke out an existence of sorts inside a nebula that contains breathable oxygen.their goal is to escape obviously, but with each subsequent generation more things fail and more knowledge is lost.I think I see what the solution is going to be to their problem and I'm disappointed in how simple and basic it is, but we'll see if it sticks the landing
>>25428217Currently reading Vacuum Diagrams by Baxter. Was told this was a good starting point for the Xelee books. Three of the first four stories were the exact same concept and narrative structure cold open in alien POV // cut to humans obliviously interacting with aliens // cut back and forth until humans realize that the very alien aliens exist // humans solve plot tension while worrying over bureaucratic issues caused by discovering sentient life. I'm assuming or hoping that these were not written or intended to be read consecutively and were grouped together only by some error in editorial judgement. Characters are thinner than Asimov's and the ideas are not worth it so far.
>>25428233Yeah, I'm worried his schtick will wear thin quickly, because at a certain point I need characters that talk like humans and plotting that isn't so slapdash.It's a shame you aren't like that one, I hear it's one of his best. I'd like to at least work up to Ring, it has a lot of ideas in it that I like reading about in SF.
>>25428233>Characters are thinner than Asimov's and the ideas are not worth it so far.Is Asimov actually good on that? Always got the impression that hes one of those idea guys that can't actually write human beings for some reason
>>25428285Asimov is the poster child of this. In fact most of the other big name golden age authors were decent character writers, but I suspect that Asimov nearly singlehandedly tanked their reputation on that front. His ideas are good enough to still be worth reading, and I find his writing to have a certain naive and boyish charm. Don't bother with Foundation, but his short stories are required reading.
Amazing how little good superhero slop there is.
>>25428333>good slopThat's either an oxymoron or a misusage.
>>25428340Slop in the sense of books made to be consumed rather than appreciated on any artistic level, aimed at a broad ad undiscerning audience. Books can be good by many measures while still being, by this definition, slop.
>>25428333didn't Worm perfect it?
>>25428300Clarke was just as bad. They both wrote like "Masters of the Metropolis", "If All Stories Were Written like Science Fiction Stories", and "In Ovens Baked".https://www.google.com/books/edition/Beyond_the_Gates_of_Dream/3o4BkolUgV8C?gbpv=1&pg=PA20https://web.archive.org/web/20040929041451/http://www.shrovetuesdayobserved.com/flight.htmlhttps://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-david-weber-orders-a-pizza/606473The only difference is that Clarke didn't use the male gaze, but that's because he was a faggot; at least Asimov was a man.
>>25428342nta wuzzat?
>>25428353Worm was a perpetual web novel. Modern superhero story. Started in like 2007. main character is a schoolgirl who could control bugs. introduces lots of heroes and villains with powers. I remember reading it for a few hours and I got a Kick Ass vibe.
>>25428342Worm is good* but only tackles superheroes from one angle. The preponderance of capeslop in comics and film suggests that there is a whole world of untapped potential.*caveats too numerous to list here
I feel like the Resident Evil film will start another Zombie renaissance.
>>25424470That's fantasy India, sir.
>>25424470>I got literally tired of the long stretches of nothing in between the actianblack company famously doesn't have action cause it's croker's journal. it's always stuff like >then we stormed the city
About 3/4ths in. Yasnic and God's story are carrying the book for me as I feel extremely underwhelmed by almost everything else, including the currently ongoing uprising.
>>25428461a certain someone already exposed the book should have listened
>>25428461I remember there being whimsy tophat zombies and it felt absurdly british. gave me the ick.
>>25428487Basically the city of Illmar was always ruled by noble families, the most ancient of which were double dog hated for their affinity for the arcane, being hedonistic as fuck(relatively) and them marrying literal demon scions and whatever. When they were deposed/killed they cursed their patch of land(The Reproach) which lead to anyone in said lands getting cursed and ending up bodyjacked by the personalities of that family. What this basically means is that they're trapped inside of their own bodies eternally dancing themselves to death to an endless tune in an endless party that in their mind takes place in a very grand palace but in reality is a decrepit shithole. The personalities, being noblemen, end up wearing what's left of their finery even if it doesn't fit the rapidly starving bodies, hence the zombie tophats.
>>25428233Keep the faith.Where you end up towards the end is like a cultural or paradigm shift. Great legends about the twilight of the human race. ‘Ring’ is a great companion book but perhaps stop there. Bureaucracy passes by the wayside as the war in heaven accelerates and Bolder’s Ring becomes the focus of all life.
>>25422119Been reading The Stars my Destination recently. Just over half-way through. I'm not a massive sci-fi fan but I've been reading it as a surreal epic retelling where Gully Foyle takes on the role of different mythic archetypes: first being a Ulysses-like castaway; then the Savage; and in the second half the Fool. Any other books like this? For reference my favourite sci-fi novel is A Voyage to Arcturus.
>>25428233Baxter is just fucking bad. Simple as.
>>25428354Sounds like absolute shit.
>>25428361>RE movie #37 will start another Zombie renaissanceDo you really believe that?
>>25428361Zombies are extremely boring. There's other survivalist fantasy tropes that offer significantly more interesting themes to explore than zombies. The 2010s was a fluke.
>>25428936you're boring, go suck a cock
>>25428967Shill another story about how le humans are actually worse than le zombies o algo. I'm sure that will be a very unique take that has never been explored before, especially because unlike that OTHER stupid zombie book, this one is SERIOUS and for ADULTS and you can tell because there's gore and people use bad words.
>>25428972>mindbroken this hard by The Last of Us and The Walking Dead
>>25428977Mindbroken is when you have an opinion on something!I notice you didn't even attempt to refute anything I just said. Please take your juvenille intetest in zombies back to your containment board + general, thank you.>>>/vg/>>>/mcg/
>I notice you didn't even attempt to refute anything I just said. Please take your juvenille intetest in zombies back to your containment board + general, thank you.
>>25428333Fair or not, I think there's a belief that everything that can be said about superheroes has already been said before. it's been played straight, subverted, the subversions have been subverted, they've leaned into absurdity, used it as metaphor for capitalism and class division and xenophobia and on and on.That said, there are a lot of books that are about superheros doing superhero things, they just wear a different coat of paint. The Final Architecture series by Tchaikovsky comes to mind, it's like a mixture of 40K and Guardians of the Galaxy but without the edginess of the former or the Marvel dialogue of the latter.
>>25428233Vacuum Diagrams does loosely follow a plot where the Ghosts are trying to run an experiment that may fuck up the entire universe. The Xeelee Sequence has a ton of alien species and one of its human's significant plot points is eventual conquering of the Milky Way, including assimilation or genocide of all non-Xeelee species.
>>25428977>>25429019NTA. Your seething is embarrassing.>inb4 everyone who disagrees with me is just one guy
>NTA. Your seething is embarrassing.
>>25423276I looked at it and I don't know. I'll give it another look later, maybe next month, but I have a lot of doubts. The are far many too other more pressing books to attend to.
>You gaslighted her! You unalived her! You gave her a post-birth abortion!
>>25422624Fall gets a lot of hate too, but I honestly loved it and the ending it provided.I took a break before reading the last two, and found them to be a let down. There are some great ideas and a few standout moments, but ultimately they weren't books I enjoyed reading.
>>25423456At least they'll never touch my by Bobby.
>>25427549Platt pls
>>25429146Philip K Dick has a story where children can be aborted up to 12 years old or something.
>>25429206>children can be aborted up to 12 years oldThe UK could use such a law.
>>25429206Seems fair, desu.
>>25429121nta but im planning on reading it as an inbetween book for the big books im reading another one will be piranesi
>>25429277Piranesi is a very popular and well-loved book that I didn't understand the appeal of.
>>25429206He should write a story about how if your 12 year old is a massive piece of shit the state has the authority to abort the parents and assign the child to a different set of capable parents.
>>25429324He died in 1982, alas.
>>25429332Where'd his kid end up?
It's so peaceful around here when a certain someone has fucked off for a while. Strange.
>>25429337his daughter Isolde Dick changed her name to Isa Dick Hackett which makes her sound like a British cryptid that chops penises off
>>25429337>He co-owns Electric Shepherd Productions alongside his sisters. The production company is dedicated to managing and protecting their father’s extensive literary library and developing his stories into media adaptations.
>>25429352>which makes her sound like a British cryptid that chops penises off
I haven't read a good book for months, everything I pick is disappointing
>>25429420Last /sffg/-related book I read was I Am Legend and that was going on three months ago now, everything since then has just been history-related stuff. Can't remember the last science fiction book I read that truly made my heart sing... Maybe Gateway. I'm having a hard time giving a shit about anything /sffg/ right now and it sucks.
>>25429420I've been reading a book per week because we have little to do at work. Feels good, man.
>>25429502>Asimov'sCome on.
If someone rates 50% of their books 5 stars, 40% 4 stars, and 10% less,,what's even the point?
>>25429629Stupid happy readers!
>>25429629I don't bother rating things I don't finish and I rarely finish things I don't like so my ratings are skewed higher because of that.
>>25429420What have you read recently?
>>25429420drop me your GR king and I'll give you a guaranteed 5 star
>>25429629They should lock you out of rating a book until 30 days after you marked it as read. Let it sit with you. Somtimes we get a high immediately after finishing a book and overrate it.
>>25429629Agreed. It's always going to be skewed toward positive because a DNF should be unrated and you're probably reading books you already think you'll like, but people who don't value their stars are less than huma
>>25429629I don't rate books at all anymore. I realized it's a waste of time, for several reasons.
>>25428461I liked the way the uprising ended. [Spoiler] absolute failure to make any difference [/spoiler]Also book 2 doesn't have any of the same characters except yasnic and God. He gets conscripted into the army as a magic healer in a big war.
>>25430039I'm a retard who can't spoil
>>25430046No spaces between the tags and the words.
>>25430036rating and reviewing books helps me retain so much more it's insane. >>25430046highlight whatever you want and hit Ctrl + S
>>25430083>and hit Ctrl + SHe's a phonefag, though.
>>25430095how do you know
>>25430128There's a tell in his post.
>>25429976
>>25429420Same, so I am just re-reading classics. Currently going through Vance's bibliography
>>25430282>omg VANCE!Epic contribution to the thread, brother. A truly unique post unseen throughout all of /sffg/ history.
>>25430338Do you not worship the Holy Trinity of Bakker, Wolfe, Vance?
>>25430368Who?
I've been trying to start out my fantasy journey, but my interests have been all over the place, and I don't know where to begin.I've looked into everything from Conan to Elric to classic literature of Arthurian legends to more modern works.Any recommendations?I am personally a sucker for a story centred around an Evil Overlord and his minions. Anything like that?
>>25430399Lord of the Rings
>>25430404I've been specifically avoiding that one. I fear the prose will make my mushy brain get lost. I fucking remember losing the thread with the fucking Hobbit. Although that was most likely me forcing myself to read while being sleepy.I wanted something more entry-level.
>losing the thread with the fucking HobbitAre you being fucking serious right now?
>>25430416It's more that I kept falling asleep and wasn't consistent enough with the reading/have the memory of a goldfish, so I kept forgetting what the fuck was going on.I fear it's going to be ten times worse with LotR.
Who is /sffg/ and why are they?
>>25430368>newfag babbleOh no, another nigger incapable of creative thought.I almost typed "dumb nigger" but that is redundant.
>>25430491>Who is /sffg/BAKER>why are they?HE IS KING
>>25430416Normalfags randomly namedrop LotR novels like a logical fallacy that makes them automatically win the "argument".>>25430491Normalfags who constantly circlejerk the same megapopular authors every thread, disingenuous faggot bitch.
>>25430505You seem upset. Go read Throne of Bones or The Worm Ouroboros or some shit. I'm sorry you got filtered by the fucking HOBBIT which is a fucking CHILDREN'S BOOK you poor, dumb little BITCH.
>>25430399>an Evil Overlord and his minionsWarhammer 40k sloppaLords of Silence (if you're a lazy fat slob and want someone to relate to)Black Legion (chuddy bad guys who want the good old days back)Night Lords Trilogy (if you like reading about immature sociopaths)Vaults of Terra (if you want a depressing setting)Infnite and the Divine (if you love Reddit humor)
>>25430399Skarsnik.
>>25430491Damn you even triggered Bakkerfag so hard that he misspelled his favorite author's name in his urge to shitpost about his favorite author.I would love to get the two of you in the same room together and rape your bodies <3
>>25430399The Black Company by Glen Cook
>>25430513yikes random Tolkienworshipper in 2026
>>25430554>t.filtered by bedtime stories
>>25430560>dismissive newfag responseSurprising! Read more books.
>>25430562Imagine being filtered by JRR Tolkien of ALL THINGS. Unbelievably grim.
>>25430528Have considered some of these, especially the Night Lords since I actually like them, but may try Lords of Silence or the Black Legion. The problem will be getting my hands on them since all the sites I used to go to get their PDFs were purged a while back; I'm not terminally online to know where to look by default.>>25430551Sounds great.
>>25430565Imagine being a newfag and spamming one-word Harry Potter spells like they inflict physical harm upon internet randoms LMAO
>>25430566How do you not know about Libgen or Anna's Archive? Did no one in college tell you about them?
>NEWFAG! NEWFAG! NEWFAG! IMAGINE REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN! NEWFAG!Hahaha, yeah... imagine.
>>25430577KEK
>>25430565>>25430577Can't imagine ass-licking Tolkien (out of nowhere) then following the scared newfag script of non-committal replies LOL
>>25430575Libgen I don't know. Anna's, I've used plenty but never for /tg/ stuff. I just didn't think I'd find obscure TTRPGs rule books there and didn't need to since I had access to places that were specific to that niche before.
>>25430577gigakek btfo that fag
>>25430581he's new and going to make up random details of your personal life. why do you even bother responding to the bot?
>>25427330>maybe Pierce getting to take what he's learned and write a new series.he said after Red God he's doing more stuff in the same universe
Why are you so utterly BTFO about Tolkien lil bro?
>24 new replies>made the mistake of expecting anything but nonsenseif this is better than pagespammer then the general was never good
Today I got the last book to complete my Animorphs collection.
>>25430595It's some newfag that is upset everybody in the world doesn't worship his favorite megapopular author, as per usual.
>>25430596wtf is vegemorphshave you read animorphs before? it's super fucked uphave you read applegates' other series?
I haven't even read Tolkien in years, lmao. Why are you so utterly blown the FUCK out little dude? Calm the fuck down.
>>25430596Good stuff Anon. Still annoyed that my brother lost my Megamorphs #2. I had no idea that Alternamorphs #2 existed.
>>25430600Vegemorphs is a little parody book that some dude wrote. It came out in 1998 which, I suppose, is when Animorphs was still quite popular. I've read about 25 volumes of Animorphs and a few of her Everworld books (which I also have all of). I do agree that they are SUPER fucked up. Now that I have all of them, I'm really looking forward to going through the whole series.
>>25430608i only own the physical copies of all of Everworld but yes, it's all fucked up.vegemorphs was officially published?ill look into it
>>25430607Megamorphs #2 can be had for a few dollars on Ebay. There are also six cover variants of that, so if you're lucky you can find one with your favorite character or the one with all six main characters inside. Still, sorry to hear that happened.
>>25430595Watching a retard seethe about not being able to follow The Hobbit is far more entertaining than multi-paragraph incoherent nonsense about a book nobody cares about that.
>>25430613I had the purple cover. Jake's, I think? Got it on launch, was heaven for me as I loved Animorphs and Dinosaurs.
>>25430622>seetheWhat does you coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with anything?
>>25430612Have you read anything else of hers? I'm curious about Remnants.
Why is JRR Tolkien this kids trigger word? Jesus Christ..
There he goes again!
>>25430627Remnants was strange, but I remember it being interesting.
>>25430577LMAO, I haven't laughed that hard in a long while, thanks for that.
>>25430627i own everworldi read remnants and animorphs (and everworld)
>>25430581Why are you THIS fucking mad right now? Do you even know why?
>newfagschizo is back
>>25430638What did you think of Remnants?
>>25422132How the fuck did you summon this nutjob?
>>25430596I went on a date with a chick who spent an unusual amount of time trying to explain why Animorphs was high quality literature. I'm not sure what she was getting at but she wasn't a dumb person.
Plans for next books to read:PiranesiPoet EmpressCrown of StarsDune till book 4 before the 3rd movie comes outMaybe First Law before ASOIAF since its shorter and everybody says its nearly as good as ASOIAF.ASOIAF next year probably.I'll probably sprinkle in some more short stories like Piranesi imbetween before the next year.
>>25430655Was she attractive? How was her personality otherwise?
Does /lit/ have an opinion of CJ Cherryh?
>>25430660Cute and friendly in a chubby hipster girl kind of way. We didn't have much to talk about so it didn't go anywhere.
>chubby hipsterYou dodged a bullet
>>25430668Well damn, at least you seem to have had a nice date. Only book related date moment I had was a chick trying to steal one of my books to wipe her ass with.
>>25430655I would be interested to hear a thorough, objective assessment of the series as to its literary value or quality. I enjoy the books because they're fun and insane. I also never got to read them as a kid.
>>25430663I enjoy her writing style. Downbelow Station itself was a bit slow and maybe a tad convoluted, too many moving parts.Wanting to check out her other work at some point, Fortress in the Eye of Time seems intriguing.
>>25430673I'm not even a big book guy by /lit/ standards but nearly every woman I've gone out with reads a lot. I think it's part of compatible personalities.>trying to steal one of my books to wipe her ass withStory time.
Why did we get flooded with a bunch of reddit expats that seem to think uttering the name of JRR Tolkien is tantamount to fucking sacrilege?
>>25430338Why do Wolfefags seethe at the very mention of Jack Vance?
>>25430683I've only read her Morgaine books. Seemed like wasted potential so I'll see if the space scifi is any better.
>>25430693Pretty sure it's just pagespammer trying a new grift.
>>25430693Thread is cursed. Better luck next time.
>>25430677I think her opinion had something to do with the overarching story arc. She was comparing it favorably to Goosebumps. No idea how we ended up on YA novels other than I think I was reading Harry Potter for the first time. I learned what a TERF was from this chick and I didn't have the heart to tell her I thought Rowling's best work was on Twitter.
>>25430696I've heard good things about her Foreigner series too, only caveat is that it's long and she's now retired from writing, so it's also going to be unfinished most likely.
>>25430663It's quite girly.
>>25430688>Story time.I'll greentext it to be reasonably concise.>Roped into blind date by former friend and his co-worker.>Neither of us are told in advance.>Told to meet him at a Chili's, that he reserved a room.>Wut.jpg.>Said food is already paid for.>Decide to go because free food.>Go, give the server my friends name, takes me to one of the dining room areas.>Jabba the Hutt: Hot Topic Variant is there.>Her amorphous figure was quite literally oozing out of her fishnet leggings and sleeves.>Multiple plates of half-finished food in front of her.>Looks up at me with barely focused eyes.>Slurs out a "Yo.">Wut.jpg.>Grab a seat.>Ask where former friend is.>"No clue." She answers after a five minute pause, devouring a burger messily and noisily.>She orders another one and swigs a soft drink.>Burps.>Try to make conversation.>She focuses on her free food.>Order for myself, resign myself to eating and leaving.>She orders a few different desserts while I am eating a chicken sandwich.>Devours the plate contents one by one like Unicron.>Picks up on plate and licks it, leaving purple lipstick markings.>Sets it down.>"Take me to your place?">Wut.jpg.>She says my former friend is picking her up there.>Serving staff are looking haggard and the Chili's is near closing.>Sigh and agree.>Drive her back to my place.>No sense of threat or any worry she might be a serial killer of anything but bags of chips.>She gets to my place.>Sits on my leather couch.>Farts.>"Where's the shitter?">Show her.>She goes in, closes door.>Loud farting, struggling, swearing, cursing.>The stink starts to escape under the door.>Ten minutes pass.>Awkwardly ask if she is ok.>No answer.>Toilet flushes, sounding like a choking infant.>She comes out.>Did not wash hands.>Sits on couch.>"Want to eat my pussy?">Burps.>Politely decline.>"Your loss.">Awkward silence from both of us, she farts loudly.>Gets up like a rescue crew unbeaching a whale.>Wobble-staggers to bathroom>Grabs my copy of Jurassic Park>Wut.jpg>"What are you doing?!">"You don't have any toilet paper.">"Under the sink.">"Used it!">Grab the book from her.>Tell her to shit and leave.Never saw her again. Had to call a plumber and it cost me $1200 to fix the toilet she ruined. Book is safe and was sanitized.
>>25430747ntaweird excuse to write a fetish story
>>25430747The world got worse after they out lawed whaling.
>>25430773Kek.
>>25430747who says /lit/ can't write fiction
>>25430773Moby Dick as an allegory about chubby chasers. That'll preach.
>>25430747This belongs in a Lovecraft collection.
Mystery upon mystery building up, giving new weight to characters and contexts. Fuark. It's kino. This might be the first series I have to finish. FUCK its so long though. Every epub will be 1000 pages.
>>25430844Congrats on finding a new way to suffer.
>>25430747This story is both unbelievable but also weirdly believable simultaneously.
>>25430588Welp. Fuck me, I guess.
>>25423817>Artemis is where it's at.>The science is greatAt the end of the book:>we are seriously re-thinking the fact that we routed the entire life-support material for the entire habitat through some random room where sweaty men have to straddle pipes and turn the valves by hand>and by the way this is literally the foundation for the entire plotThe fact that they mentioned it in the narrative once doesn't make it even 1% more legitimate. The entire fucking world was shit and had no basis in any actual system more recent than a WWII German submarine. I became fucking stupider by reading this book. Martian was better because he plagiarized some of the science from reality. Red Space Mosquitos was better because it had all that language shit. Artemis had the best characters and writing, (not saying much btw) but the actual science was so fucking dumb, for real.
>>25430163i bowactually holy shit the more i look at this the more intense it gets. is this really yours? have you read and rated nearly 1,800 books? god damn that's impressive
>>25431056Yes, it is, but only about half are novels. I've removed a lot from my account over time for various reasons.
>>25430626Oh my GOD, move on unc, we ALL came after August 2026 here now.
Bruh...
>>25430693>>25430700Its Baynefag seething that people would rather read tolkien rather than his shitty self published slop
Bakker. Is. King.
>>25430663My favorite scifi author. Downbelow Station is peak. Unfortunately she is on a ton of meds and can't keep concentrated enough to write now so she is retired. I am so pissed I will never read the last Cyteen book I've been tempted to feed her stuff to AI to see what comes out the other end
>>25430747>Toilet flushes, sounding like a choking infant.Fuck me.
>>25430647He's fucking deranged.
