What are some books on mystic chudist metaphysics? Incel dialetics and phenomenology of moid also welcome.
it's insane that all that stuff went mainstream. i think it signifies are major cultural shift in america at least. in the past all the young generation's slang came from black culture, or gay culture, the marginalized cultures, but now they are mainstream, so normies have to turn elsewhere to plunder new culture, so they have to go to chudcels and steal their shit.
>>25422727I mean aside from the memey language I mine similar territory.
>>25422727Anything by Jason Jorjani.>the universe is a Nietzschean struggle against the Demiurge and also the Earth is controlled by Guenonian Nordic UFO supermen who are bad but some of them are good and we need to become Promethean supermen with psi powers to ally with them over
>>25422727Metaphysics was already solved by Kant and he was no chud. Though he was a racist incel thoughbeit. Any metaphysics after Kant worth reading is just a riff on Kantian themes applied in new ways, even if they pretend to be "anti-Kantian" in some way or other. Admit it, the rest of you just lost.
>>25422770Discount Dugin.>>25422727Read Aleksandr Dugin if you want a CHUD politik metaphysic. Better than anyone else alive who never instigate anything traditionalist in the current landscape.
>>25422740Astroturfing made rap popular. Every generation goes through their parents hating the music they listen to but millenials were the first to go, "yeah, my parents were right--Fred Durst and Puff Daddy are retards." That's why boomers will still listen to classic rock and even hair metal at the cottage but you never see anyone over 35 bumping Juvenile out their car windows.
>>25422895>Discount DuginDugon is a Traditionalist. Jorjani believes Traditionalism is the ideology of the Demiurge/Nordics and needs to be replaced with Prometheanism.
>>25422970You don't know what Dugin believes then if you say he wants to "return". Read Spengler and Parker Yockey (of whom Aleksandr just released a new book on in his publishing store), he wants to create a completely new world against the Atlantians.
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>>25422908yeah it's like u will never a millenial play a franz ferdinand song in the year 2026 even tho that was the soundtrack to every 1850s larp bar in nyc back in like 2003 or whatever.
>>25422983I know enough to know he's approaching things from a different perspective to Jorjani.You touch on another important difference. Dugin believes Atlantean civilisation is something to look negatively upon whereas Jorjani believes Atlantis represented a Promethean rebellion by the 'good Nordics' against the Traditionalist/Demiurgic Nordics.
>>25422727Gurdjieff is an interesting one>prefigured the NPC meme, by saying the majority of humanity is spiritually “asleep”; automatons most of the time not in a true state of self-awareness, going off of prior conditioning, as well as the influences of past incarnations >the true spiritual path is hence like an awakening, or rebirth; transcending being NPC-hood through greater awareness>held that humanity of modern technological and industrial civilization was spiritually regressing in many ways, compared to past civilizations, and humans closer to authentic spiritual tradition; with more real impulses of faith, respect for tradition, their spiritual elders or superiors, God, or the Transcendent, etc.>patriarchy is also an important piece of traditional human wisdom, and the right, natural state of things for humanity; itself a manifestation of a cosmic principle, where Man is the receptacle of the Active Force, and Woman the conduit of the Passive Force“In relation to these two worlds [the inner and outer worlds], man appears in reality to be merely a slave, because his various perceptions and manifestations cannot be other than conformable to the quality and nature of the factors making up these totalities.“He is obliged, in relation to his outer world as well as his inner world, to manifest himself in accordance with the orders received from any given factor of one or the other totality.“He cannot have his own initiative; he is not free to want or not to want, but is obliged to carry out passively this or that ‘result’ proceeding from other outer or inner results.“Such a man, that is to say, a man who is related to only two worlds, can never do anything; on the contrary, everything is done through him. In everything, he is but the blind instrument of the caprices of his outer and inner worlds.“The highest esoteric science calls such a man ‘a man in quotation marks’; in other words he is named a man and the same time he is not a man.“He is not a man such as he should be, because his perceptions and his manifestations do not flow according to his own initiative but take place either under the influence of accidental causes or in accordance with functioning that conforms to the laws of the two worlds [psychological and physical].”—Life is Real Only Then, When ‘I Am’, pg. 172, by G.I. Chudjieff
>>25422740It's not just "chud", 4chan and related cultures (e.g. bodybuilding.com) have influenced the language heavily for a decade now
>>25423110bruh i heard the bodybuilding dotcom misc forum got shut down or sth. i never went there but sometimes some crazy shit would come out of there and u had to recognize real.
>>25423112a board can only survive so many live suicides
>>25423141i only remember the one of that kid who od'd in florida lol i remember the ny post had a big two page spread of like his final chat or something that i read over some guy's shoulder on the train lol were there more? lmao
>>25423085I concede that I know little of this Jorjani man, but looking at what he supports and what you just told me, wouldn't he support a type of "return" to an Will to Power Mysticist age utilizing technology? He has some likes to the UFO's/UAP's which had immediately led me to think he is some form of an American Nick Land, but not so much knowledgeable on the Phenomenonologists. Due enlighten me somewhat.
>>25423108My favorite Gurdjieff anecdote is when he needed to take a trip in his car at night and had a headlight out so he asked one of his followers to sit on the hood of the car with a flashlight and mercilessly berated him when he agreed to do it.
>>25423186LOL. I either never heard of this, or (maybe more likely) heard of it at one point but forgot about it. I used to be pretty obsessed with Gurdjieff, and devoured both his own books, and massive amounts of supplementary literature on him, including from many direct students of his and people around him writing books on him, for several years.Fritz Peters’s “Boyhood With Gurdjieff”/“Gurdjieff Remembered” is probably one of the best, most entertaining, easier and funniest books for the more simply human side of Gurdjieff with stories like that, more of a memoir than esoteric philosophizing. From Peters being a kid who stayed with Gurdjieff at Fontainebleau under his legal guardians who also wanted to study under Gurdjieff.I like the one where an older Gurdjieff was at a restaurant in America and telepathically sexually stimulated some female student of his, it’s implied to the point of orgasm. The account I read had it that she had just been being skeptical about him or gossiping about him, but I can’t find that exact one, here’s the one if found:>One interesting anecdote from 1933 suggests that Gurdjieff had gained proficiency in a practice associated with left-hand path sorcery, and indicates something of his libidinous reputation. At a party, Gurdjieff turned his gaze – frequently described as hypnotic – on his American pupil, the novelist Zona Gale, who was seated with a companion. They observed the notorious magus inhaling and exhaling in what seemed a deliberate, methodical manner. Gale blanched, stiffened, and upon resuming her composure reported (in the terminology of the Work) that Gurdjieff's peculiar attentions had "struck her right through her sexual center". The Sly Man had supposedly bestowed a remote control orgasm upon her through his magical powers. Even though such tales must be taken with a grain of salt, they form an ineradicable part of Gurdjieff's legend.It sounds ridiculous, but there’s like some dozens of separate people, even over different years and decades, who in some cases either didn’t or hardly interacted with each other at all, independently giving accounts of Gurdjieff outright doing, well, magic; having supernatural capabilities he displayed to them or on them, such as telepathy, telekinetically working on them from a distance, mind-reading, healing, and more. Well, if anyone’s as much of a schizo as I am and wants to hear, I outright believe Gurdjieff was an extraordinarily developed human being, who developed some of what the Easterners call siddhis, or psychic powers from meditation and spiritual advancement; but was somewhat morally “gray” at times, in how he manifested them, including just for what seemed like the sake of experimentation, or for his own entertainment, or aggrandizement. A rogue spiritual master, essentially.
