>1999 to 2004
lol

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>>25434922
It requires you to read a trilogy of fantasy prior to it, but it's one of the better takes I've read on aging and being old (middle aged)

I have a 19 year old intern at my company and any time age is brought up he harps about how he’s “just a teenager”. He turns 20 in a few months. He has a girlfriend and when we asked to see a picture of her he made a theatrically big deal of not showing us, as it would be “weird since she’s in college”. When me and my coworkers brought up our girlfriends/fiancés, the first question he asked all of us was how old they were, followed immediately by asking how old we were. When I told him my girlfriend was 21 (I’m 27) he shook his hands up and down his arms like he was shivering in an overly-animated way and went “ewww!” while my coworkers looked at him blankly, them not understanding his reaction whatsoever. The perspective of the younger half of gen z when it comes to age is really strange to me, and I think it’s under a microscope to a neurotic extent with them.

Ivan Illych
East of Eden
The Waves

>>25434992
yet another symptom of social media

>>25435009
no this is just america

>>25435029
Here in new zealand theres also a huge stigma growing against age gap relationships, its the same all over western countries on this issue

>>25434992
We're cooked, unc
>t. zoomzoom

>>25434922
The best cope is a gf half your age. I'm taking mine to Disneyland today.

>>25434922
I am getting so sick of you unfunny morons who think talking like this is automatically funny

Steppenwolf

>>25434922
You need to be at least 1997 for this to happen.
t. turn 30 next year

life is so overwhelmingly filled with tragedy and suffering that death starts to feel like not a big deal

at least for many of us with no love or children in our lives to make it worth living

>>25434992

I'm 30 and i've always seen people who took younger girls are mentally impaired or just don't care and want to have sex.
In both cases i judge you harshly as i think girls should be with guys of their ages living vibrant romantic adventures and not caring much about the future when you at 27 should be starting to think about how to settle somewhere with someone and etablishing your lineage.
That being said most people are retarded including me so.

>>25436050
>when you at 27 should be starting to think about how to settle somewhere with someone and etablishing your lineage
I need a young breedable sow not some hag about to hit the wall.

>>25436050
>guys of their ages living vibrant romantic adventures
On the guy's side, you can whittle most of those 'vibrant romantic adventures' down to
>just don't care and want to have sex.

>>25436050
I fucked a lot of undergrads when I was in grad school at ages 27-29. Was easier then ever, attention from women that wouldn't even look at me when I was there age

Getting old is terrifying.

>>25435042
I meant more about the reaction

>>25436928
I am getting older, my relatives are dying off all around me, and though I feel fairly well, and look much younger than I am, this damn Great Reset is aiming right at us, and it may just mean to kill me before my time.

Lolita. Lo-li-ta.

>>25434922
>books about coping with getting older?
No country for Old Men, but I suspect you mean realizing you're post-adolescent rather than dying of dementia while other younger men (in their 40s) die in ritualised homosexual thanatonic combat.

>>25436046
no life is worth living at all

I don't wanna get older :(

i dunno man
living is rough
my solace is not in books but in knowing others are living through the same

so how many of you are terrified mostly of you own bodies decaying vs being more horrified about losing the things and people you love? I would think that exceptionally long life sounds pretty awful too unless there are other long lived people along with me.
Greg Egan writes some stuff that explores post-death people that can do all sorts of strange things with their selves.

>>25436964
Has roots in the English Temperance Movement and further back into the Fabian Society. Not America, The UK. We unfortunately copy them.

if you guys lifted weights, went on jogs, consciously tried to eat well and worked on your posture youd be able to enjoy your intellectual gains well into your eighties or nineties. the life expectancy is going up and if you know how to use it (ordering/discovering books, finding odd subcultures) the internet is one of the greatest innovations ever. there is endless, fulfilling work to be done if you really try. cmon now

>>25434992
The liberals are making it an effort to make ageism a thing so they can milk that shit as well. Young Gen Z do not like older people it seems, like almost an equivalent to racial hate. Like in the past most young people kind of looked at older people as mentors or with wisdom or knowledge. Now the younger Zoomers just pass off comments or knowledge spread by older people as if it's not worth their memory storage in their brains.

>>25434922
I'm 1994 and the other day i noticed that i have a wrinkle on my forehead.
it's my first wrinkle.
my immediate thought was: "huh, i guess i am going to die one day."

>>25436050
You’re a faggot.

>>25436050
“ i think girls should be with guys of their ages living vibrant romantic adventures and not caring much about the future when you at 27 should be starting to think about how to settle somewhere with someone and etablishing your lineage.”
>bro when your 27 you should give up on having a fun life /passionate relationship
Tf is your problem?

>>25436050
Fuck having a family.

>>25434922
The Forever War

Tempus fugit o algo

I recently almost died and a change came over me where I feel that my life now is just a bonus life. I'm contented to die. Life is a gift. Minor suffering is nothing to the greatness of life. I will gladly live and feel everything but I know that I'm on borrowed time and when I die it will just be my time, so be it. Only 32 btw

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>>25434992
watch what happens to the suicide rate of developed nations when zoomers enter their 50s. screencap dis.

>>25440237
the suicide rate of everyone is gonna be high by then.

>>25440243
ev&oe the war of the 'crobe will kill them all before that

>>25440243
probably but especially for some demographics over others, just like now

>>25436050
>i think girls should be with guys of their ages
21 and 27 are of the same age lol. They’re both in their 20s.

>>25434922
You cope by not acting like a jaded grumpy old man. Same goes for women acting like substance abusing middle aged sadsacks in their mid 20s for no reason at all.

>>25439811
This is how I felt when I noticed a gray hair on my temple around age 28 kek.

Why can't we be forever young? Why do god hates us?

>>25440474
so are 21 and 47 (40s are the new 20s)

>>25440237
why wait , it's not hard to predict the picture this jigsaw makes

>>25436050
I’m 34 dating a 22 year old. Seethe harder nigger, enjoy your fat old flabby hog

>>25441248
Its a test to see if our spirits can stay young while our bodies succumb to entropy.

I will realistically never get to live my twenties as a woman so I don't care about getting old. All I need to focus on is knowledge and art.

The worst part about actually getting older, not late 20s "oh no my life is over I'm 26 and having my first existential crisis", but actually getting older is watching all the now-senior members of your family slowly, or sometimes all too quickly start to die. Someone who was once powerful in your mind reduced to a panicked child after a stroke or developing dementia and now you have to take care of them. It's harrowing.

>>25440051
Good for you.

>>25436050
That's dumb. Girls don't even like guys their age

28yo with a 20 yo miss titepussy reporting in

>>25435207
erm im 30......

>>25436050
im a 27 year old child i will not be "establishing my lineage"

>>25445292
It’s fine, you’ll be stabilized by your mid 30s then you can just go grab a 21 year old.

>>25436036
I'm going to be 30 next year and I still feel like I'm in my early 20s, as in, nothing has changed or drastically happened besides just every year going by

It's (not) okay to be an unc

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>>25434992
The behavior zoomer women have towards older guys is bizarre. I was briefly in a long-distance relationship with a 24-year-old (I’m 37) and she genuinely thought I was at risk for dementia. At 37. She also called herself an “ephebophile” because she prefers men around her age.

To zoomers, they apparently view themselves at literal children (liking people their own age = “ephebophelia”) and are radicalized against “geriatric men” (men in their 30s) to an almost insane degree.

The irony is that when these women reach their 30s, they’re still going to be going after younger men in their 20s, and they’re going to be even MORE radicalized against men who do the same.

>>25436050
This Nigga Corny as Fuck

Old niggers are extremely invested in their fantasy of young women not being disgusted by their wrinkly asses.

Real unc advice: Ignore any advice that doesn't mention getting your cash up or home ownership. It's either a larp or someone in denial.

>>25445635
No need to cope zoom zoom they’ll want you when you’re our age too

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>>25445688
unc just typing shit

>>25436050
childless whore chasers seethed over this trvke post

>>25434922
I'm a 1999 unc dating 19-21yos from tinder

>>25446011
mid-late 20s is when men are at their most desireable, it's these 35+ year old uncs saying they still get young pussy that's ridiculous

>>25434992
>one retard represents a generation
ENOUGH!

>>25434922
I'm 200 years old. It doesn't get easier.

>>25440237
Girl on the left is having the worst night of her life lol

>>25446242
Worst night of that month lol she’s like that every other weekend

>>25446585
did the guy with the big dick piss the bed or what is this image supposed to convey?

>>25436050
the only true part of this post is that you're retarded

>>25447012
it's piss, you fucking retard

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>>25434922
Don't know any books. Some great songs though.
https://youtu.be/j-XKgB5guDQ?si=BZfmtQr9rY0g0IH5

Here's the english translation of the last half.

And at the end of the road there's a house by the lake
Orange tree leaves lie on the path
I have twenty children, my wife is beautiful
Mhh, they all come by, I never have to go out

[Outro]
I was born here, I'll be buried here
I've got deaf ears, a white beard and I'm sitting in the garden
My hundred grandchildren play cricket on the lawn
When I think of it like that, I can hardly wait

>>25434992
It's feminist nagging culture taking over. I dated women in their 30s and 40s when I was in my early 20s and the only people I met who really had problems with it were feminist nags.
Some of it is also young women over-correcting for actually wanting to be with older men but they want to stop because they "hate the patriarchy"

>>25445601
that's genuinely bizarre

>>25434992

LOL I get that all the time too. My gf is 23 and I'm 30. My friend is 30 too and his girlfriend JUST turned 20. People would rip on us constantly over it.

Gen Z is extremely puritanical and dogmatic and I think it's probably because they live in a social media panopticon. For Gen Z, your social capital is extremely important and because it's constantly in question it gives them terrible anxiety.

P.S what a rude cunt to even say that to you.

>>25436928

It is, it fucks me up. I am now realizing that I am no longer cool. When I was in my 20s I spent a lot of time on niche 4chan adjacent spaces and it did feel to me (especially since I met a lot of people on those spaces irl) that I was part of an interesting, niche community full of non-NPCs. How immature of me. I spent so much time with all these weirdos and going on silly road trips to go meet them or to go fuck some autistic girl (never worth it even once) and I realize now that those societies still exist but I'm just not welcome in them anymore. I've been aged out of that. The closest thing to my old community that still exists is the dimes square crowd and although I know some people from that world they call me unc and don't fully see me as one of their own. It's bittersweet because I actually wasted my 20s as a pretentious retard thinking I was so much cooler and more special than other people and spending time with other weirdos all competing to see who was the most strange and esoteric and unchained and now I realize I'm no longer part of that world's spiritual successor but also that it grants you no real benefit, growth or true happiness. I humbly admit that I was a moron and a fool and I beg God to let me try again, but know it cannot be.

>>25439811

96 and same, I have some fine lines around my nasolabial folds. They aren't very noticeable, but I look at my face every day and it fucks me up. I also have a mostly full head of hair (very minor recession and otherwise thick, long hair) but I have a lot of grays. I'm lucky in that I have skincaremaxxed since I was 18 - before terms like mogging became mainstream stolen valor zoomer vernacular - and genuinely look substantially younger than I am. The zoomer guy who works the front desk at my gym was really surprised that I wasn't around his age.

>>25446003
>childless whore
how does that work, retard? older women are statistically likely to have a far larger bodycount than young women are.

>>25447720
read the full sentence retard, whore chasers are men who chase harlots instead of starting a family

>>25447718
what's your skincare routine? I just run facial cleanser. I tried others like retinol but it made my acne worse so I had to go back to basic. I'm 96 too and people say I look young too.

i fucked a girl i met online, 23. extroverted, pert, some sort of central american mexican puerto rican whatever something rather with fake blonde hair. 2 month fling, took her to the museum and olive garden. gave me head in her mercury tracer. i'm 37. honestly, dude, cheap casual sex? youre talking about sex? i havent really given a shit truly since my 20s. when i was in college i would cry over some bitch not texting me back and try to "game" my tinder matches. so much effort and primacy on something that is underwhelming once you are done. video games, casual sex, doing heroin...what do they have in common? allowing you to tick away hours doing nothing and convincing yourself youre doing something, tricking your body into thinking youre winning, but really what is there at the end of the day?

>>25434992
I date girls his age at my late 20s
He should seethe and cope

>>25447905
It makes your acne worse at first, thats how it works
It gets worse before it gets better
I use adapalene and it's insane how much it helped my nasolabial folds it about a year

>>25434922
1990 here, damn that sounds like a year from ancient history doesn't it? Anyway I'm still young.

>>25448138
being almost 40 is not young

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>>25448208
Umm yes it is. I'm in touch with my inner child (I'm a manchild).

>>25448212
lol ok carry on

>>25447905

My skincare routine is pretty simple. I cleanse my face at morning and night (and honestly not always if I cannot be fucked to do it) then I apply a toner, a moisturizer and a strong sunscreen. That's it. Occasionally I'll try something else on a whim but doing this while I ensure I drink enough water and only rarely drink or smoke has made my skin stay almost the same since I was in my early 20s apart from a few fine lines here and there. I went to an event last year that was hosted by the first year students of a music college and a few people asked me what I was there to study. If you really wanna youthmaxx I suggest clean shaving (zoomers cannot fucking grow hair anywhere on their bodies and I look like a walking rug with my hairy ass face and chest) and getting earrings and shit ig idk lol

>>25448208
im 30 and I genuinely non-copingly unironically still think I am young. Chronologically I am older than someone in their 20s ofc but biologically I am as healthy and strong as I ever was and don't look much older either

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>>25436050
I've turned 28 this year and had as a girlfriend a 20 year old student of letters for a month or so.
I make use of my immaturity to attempt to present the case as close I can to objectively. In short, she was more concerned with sex than building a relationship, she'd had sex with multiple men in the prior month and as far as my trying to be with her, my breaking point was when she had to take a pregnancy test late into the month because a man who wasn't me had fucked her unprotected. I have been promiscuous myself for most of my teens and early twenties and thought it fair to not judge women on a standard I had not held myself to- this is said to prevent any virgin from shouting "simp" or "cuck" at me.
In my teens I suppose I was stricken by an immaturity of the same sort what plagues me today- I could find girls not only to sleep with but also to be with. All this was rendered useless by the sight of my beautiful high school classmate whom I was nothing but stupidly in love with being picked up from school in a cheap car by her 30 year old boyfriend. Myself, I could never imagine myself in his shoes- the fucking loser and faggot- the shoes of a man who fucks teenagers and is fed by their single mothers well into his adulthood. I'd console myself with the thought that not soon and not late, but in the right time, I'd turn 30 myself and fuck teenagers of my own.
I confirm now as a 28 year old geriatric that it is indeed only losers and faggots who consort with girls younger than them at thirty years of age, and their shoes are fashionable but otherwise nondescript and you might attempt to wear them but you'll be dazzled by the realization of the imperative to change them every other month on rotation based on arbitrary retarded trends.
As for my girlfriend, she was stupid not in the way a 20-year old is, for I've been myself not too long ago 20 and can remember distinctly how that was (and also my disposition to dismiss and reject people like her). Rather, she's stupid in the way a 20 year old who looks for relations with men close to 10 year older than her. I won't recount all of her transgressions, "sexo-marxism" being the least of them--- ultimately one can only hear so many speeches about Palestine before pushing back and asking for epistemic or ethical criteria, and can only hold his laughter and criticizing of instagram ideas for so long. She would otherwise try and say things that are profound which would come out as trite and would be so startled by your blank stare that she couldn't even play it off in a way where she ironically dares you to challenge her allegedly well-thought belief.
She also happened to be a peasant with close-minded field hand parents and was the first of her lineage to move to the city or get vaccinated for HPV. I think this influenced her behaviour and rebellious attitude too, as well as her promiscuity. One of the prettiest faces I've seen, tall and with beautiful breasts.

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>>25449618
All this to say, the type of man who is eager to fuck a much younger woman is a stunted faggot who's never gotten pussy in his youth. Not being bothered by the idiocy of the type of women who'd sleep with them is admission of the same type of idiocy, at best, or snake-like behavior at worst. Being bothered by it but accepting it for the hope of pussy is desperate.

Any man who could build a relationship with a woman his age, would. This applies to the 18 year old as much as it does to the man in his thirties.

>>25434992
>all the guys dating retarded women a decade younger than them seething at this obviously fake story
Telling on yourselves!

>>25450336
>>25449622
How do you reconcile your viewpoint with the fact that age gap relationships have been the norm for all of recorded history and have even been promoted as the best scenario for a prosperous relationship in western foundational literature going all the way back to Hesiod?

>>25451211
It proves the West is built on depravity. We must dismantle whiteness, the white race and its taste for such behavior and perversion. Ignatiev and Sontag were right.

>>25434922
He looks young for a zoomer

>>25451220
Why am I not surprised kek

>>25449618
>>25449622
>>25451220
>fuck palestine
>fuck whitey
Insanely kiked posts kek. Will concede the writing was enjoyable to read but ultimately ridiculous.
> All this to say, the type of man who is eager to fuck a much younger woman is a stunted faggot who's never gotten pussy in his youth.
Ya I’m sure this is why Leo only bangs 20 year olds…

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>Bloom was 38 in Ulysses
>Tony was 34 in the pilot of the Sopranos
>Homer was 34 in the Simpsons
Being born in the 90s it doesn't seem so far off, life goes by too fast

>>25451730
Tony was 35 but filmed like a month away from his 36th rather

>>25451591
>>25451697
This guy >>25451220 isn't me, by the way. Fuck that cuckold. (I wrote >>25449618 and >>25449622 ). Thanks for the compliment though. I was really drunk.
>>25451211
>How do you reconcile your viewpoint with the fact that age gap relationships have been the norm for all of recorded history and have even been promoted as the best scenario for a prosperous relationship in western foundational literature going all the way back to Hesiod?
By pointing out that they might not have been as common as we think they are.
Say I do grant you that they were though, I specifically talked about meaningless fucking as opposed to marriage, which is what those age-gapped relationships would have been. In terms of a woman who unequivocally has no role other than to carry as many children as her body will allow her to and a man who doesn't have a choice but sustain his family with labor, that's a relationship that makes the most sense.
I don't have a problem, though, either, with admitting that the "traditional" man is maybe not as sophisticated as I'd like and it wouldn't surprise me if indeed he's more enticed by youth than lived experience in a woman. And by lived experience I don't mean "sucked many cocks" you fucking fags, I mean a woman with whom you could converse.
>>25451697
>Ya I’m sure this is why Leo only bangs 20 year olds…
Eh, he lives a life so different from you and me I would hardly apply to him any standards I would to me.

>>25434992
>The perspective of the younger half of gen z when it comes to age is really strange to me, and I think it’s under a microscope to a neurotic extent with them.
its gotten especially bad these past few years online. everybody's always in a tizzy about so-and-so being a pedophile, and they make four hour documentaries about how some guy talked to a 16 year old once on discord, or how some highschool-aged guy had a gf, all sorts of stupid shit like that. its "cancel culture" by any other name, they've just shifted from the banner of feminism and social justice to this safe-edgy drama commentary, with this ethical posturing that by obsessing over weirdos, they are doing something about someone they think is a danger to themselves and others. (all because someone found a guy who fucked dogs like a decade ago. now everybody's an amateur Chris Hansen.)
its just annoying and embarrassing, especially as a younger guy myself (because in recent memory I was in this cohort of supposed hapless victims. the entire notion flies in the face of experience; neither me nor any of my peers were so ignorant or weak as these people pretend.)
at least the feminists had the decency to target people who were established in the world and had the means to defend themselves. turning it on young men is shameful.

>>25436050
Truth nuke, anon. Everybody disagreeing with this either have Peter Pan syndrome and are chasing young girls to reinforce that or are just perverse creeps looking for young but legal pussy. Though this is less the case the older both parties are with the age gap, such as say a 40 year old dating a 50 year old.

>>25454358
You and the guy you replied to are both bitch-made faggots

>>25454358
>everyone who disagrees with me is <buzzword buzzword buzzword>
LOL

>>25454996
The truth hurts, doesn't it?

>>25455580
Nothing you people say will ever make men desiring 18-25 year old pussy unconventional or immoral.

>>25449618
Pariez jumătate din venitul meu lunar pe faptul că ești român.

>>25436050
>>25454358
Fecund relationships are anathema to the real urbanite Peter Pan scum typing this drivel.

>>25434930
yeah, really. those are babies.

>>25445601
they just need the shit smacked out of them, they're really just making it blatantly obvious they want brat tamed.

>>25448208
I'm 44 myself, never married. my younger siblings are though.

>>25457420
lol
sexomarxismul sau ce m-a dat de gol?

>>25457495
Și sexomarxismul, și enunțul despre părinții ei.

>>25454434
>>25454996
>>25457436
more seething replies lmao

>>25457865
>gets dunked on for saying something retarded
>omg they’re seething!
Kek

>>25434992
he spent his prime teenage years during the covid period. he is deeply fucked and im not even saying that to be funny. ive met other people like that and they seriously have something deeply wrong with them. im not even a generation warring faggot as im a 1997 zillennial and still very much remember what its like to be young, but the young zoomers of today are truly strange in a way thats not just particular, but truly damaged in some way.

>>25436928
i used to think this but its not that bad now that i am truly getting old. starting to slowly accept it and im a lot less neurotic about it now. it will happen to you too so you shouldnt worry.
t. 29

What a grim thread.
I tried to reintegrate to society and was surprised to hear my old buddies are talking like feminists and drag-queens. They view people who are older than them by a year as geriatric or as babies if they are younger by a year instead.
I cannot even speak to my own brother without receiving a response like something from an AI chatbot.
I think I will avoid talking to normies and using mainstream websites and platforms as much as possible from now on, I will cultivate a stress-free life were I read and do workouts away from others and generally avoid hearing what others have to say.

>>25458560
grim indeed

Wear it with pride.

45 here and only pound zoomer cunt

>>25461892
in your dreams unc

>>25434922
The biggest redpilled is that old fart status comes when you are 25. I laugh my ass off at guys breaking down over being thirty. Youve been an old fart for 5 years.

>>25461892
So so so so SO based

>>25457888
>cries and shits himself in defense
>yeah, you just got dunked on!