A one man show editionStubbed >>25424991>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLYRecommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopiit's peak
read Cruel Violet by Dreamer's Riotit's peak
There is still no action femc as good as Kumoko.
>>25435416I am around chapter 40 currently. The philosophical stuff is a bit hamfisted and it just pulled one of the classic xianxia slop tropes where the protagonist does someth that has 30 different meanings and his opponent somehow was able to immediately recognize that deeper meaning behind his actions.Still the story has some real soul and hopefully the sloppiness will get ironed out over time.If you want to talk underrated xianxia though grasping evil is definitely it. The start might even be more sloppy than RI but it delves into taoism the most out of an cultivation novel I have read later on, and there is some real soul as well.
>This is a story about two sist-Dropped
i thought the fmc discord raid ended months ago
>>25435741
>>25435661Maybe it's a well known thing in China, but to me the half the corpse in the box and the underlying meaning behind it was pretty mind blowing the first time I read it.
>reading A World Worth Protecting>Wang Baole is the son in law of Wang Lin>Wang Lin was the MC of Renegade ImmortalFeels silly because Baole's parents are complete non-cultivating randoms on Earth. You'd think you'd make sure your wife's parents were taken care of if you were a strong cultivator.And>thinking about Coiling Dragon>call my dog Finley Linleyhehe
>>25435846I never read that, but didn't Wang Lin get raped in his own book, I don't remember if she gave birth to a kid though
>>25435846>>25435918The novel is a slog, but in donghua wang lin never fathered any children (except that one time when he turned part of his soul into his son well sort of, he died later)
Serious question. I understand all of you are ESL like me. But is there western literary novel that has the good parts of Reverend Insanity? Smart protagonist, weak MC, smart antagonist, schemes. Stuff like that, but better written at prose and plot level.For asian stuff, the closest thing would probably korean murim novels, especially return of mount hua. That one is just schemes after schemes. I read Cyrion, and it has hints of chinese (web)novel, smart MC too. But not enough. It was honestly a coincidence I think, it’s closer to Agatha Christie’s books. Because for britishers, smart MC means detectives.Google love to recommend Traitor Baru and Locke Lamore. But it looks like they are part of longer series, and the subsequent books aren’t as good.
>>25436157I can't think of one that has all the good parts of RI. You might enjoy:>Dao of the Bizarre Immortal>Immortality Through Array Formations>Regressor's Tale of Cultivation (not much scheming)>MAYBE Calculating Cultivator (big maybe it's a pretty miserable read because the author is a zero-sum economy autist, but it's finished)
>>25435493
Is Gifted's version of LitRPG going to be the new Archmage craze?I feel like he's achieved in creating a system where numbers go up a lot without making the protagonist too powerful because the numbers going up are within a mini-objective that only gives a couple of stat points per level on top of a 100 point base.
I have come across a korean novel with a transsexual female lead for the second time now, and I am deeply disappointed in the gooks. And no it was not gender bender.
>>25436313kek Gifted is garbage.
>>25436328your point being?
>>25436317Koreans want to be americans so bad.
>>25436157I,Claudius. It's a fictional biography of a guy that survived Roman purges to become Emperor. Though he's not like a Fang Yuan character hes more of a stealth survivor, Livia is the one that's like Fang Yuan.
>>25436157The closest thing to it, again, Warlock of the Magus World.
>>25436317Asians don't, per se, regard LGBTQ as a sin the way Christians do. Traditionally it was regarded as perverse, unnatural, distasteful, and unbecoming, for somewhat practical purposes, but (like promiscuity) not inherently wrong. Unlike eating meat for example, due to Buddhism.So both Japan and Korea are heavily influenced these days by liberal trannyismt. Asian
>>25436334There is not going to be any 'craze' because the novel is garbage. It doesn't introduce anything new or original so there really isn't anything to be excited about. It's hot atm only because the first 10-15 chapters were ok. Give it a few more chapters and people will start dropping it, of course there will always be autists who are specifically into trash novels that will keep alive somewhat but even they aren't the majority of RR audience.
>>25436365Anything that insanely successful that insanely fast starts a craze, because authors see it and try to imitate. Quality doesn't matter.See:MLA
>>25436354While I understand that, chinese and japanese novels have yet to hit me in the face with a plot of a female lead who happens to be a cross-dressing man with serious gender dysphoria, which the protagonist helps by giving a magical potion that cuts his dick off, before joining the harem and becoming a true female lead. I had to specify it was not gender bender because I don't think that counts, and it's not direct like this. The second novel was even worse since the protagonist "enlightens" the female lead about her true gender because she was a man(born with a dick) who was supposed to be a woman, and I have to read a whole arc of pseudo homosexuality with the female lead(male) constantly drooling over the protagonist while reminding himself he is not a faggot over and over until succuming and becoming a woman. None of these were smut by the way, they were serious novels.
>>25436369What is there to imitate exactly? Have you read past the chapter 14 (latest chapter posted on rr) ?
>>25436371>chinese and japanese novels have yet to hit me in the faceI'm seeing cracks in the wall, and I'm only surprised it took this long, that's all I'm saying
>>25436371Readers from asian lgbt community don't care about that.
>>25436368So all stories with 15 okay chapters should be as popular as Gifted then, according to your analysis.
>>25436371Fucking disgusting.Names of these novels?
>>25436376The premise and estheticsMLA clones hardly copied the plot beats either
>>25436430>premise and estheticswhich are what exactly?
>>25436428>Names of these novels?"Surviving as a Plagiarist Author in Another World" and "I Became the Leader of the Monster Circus Troupe". Second one is particularly sad because I think it could've been the korean lord of mysteries with how good the setting was.
Also, both on Novelpia somehow.
>>25436462the author just has some sick fetish for the second one
>>25436480I could handle the full body licking, the tentacles, the baby play, the multiple arms, the pet play, the love interests being like 16, but not this. Barely even a third of the novel too.
>>25436462Oh, I read the first one. There was a troon who got a magic troon potion after the Jekyll and Hyde arc.
>>25436449Read it if you want to know
>>25436544So you don't know either. Why are you claiming people are going to imitate it?
>>25436567Because people always copy massive successes. And this one is shaping up to be one of RR's very biggestIt's obvious
>>25436591What are they copying?
>>25436594see >>25436430
When will western web novel writers start posting real stories instead of litrpg/cultivation? I want to read a novel not your DnD playthrough
>>25436602if they did they'd rather publish it as a real book
>>25436602>I want to read a novelOther people don't Authors go where the readers are
>>25436602i live in the west and my web novel isn't litrpg/cultivation
>>25436598Which is?
>>25436602https://www.amazon.com/non-fiction/s?k=non+fiction
>>25436620see >>25436544
>>25436632There isn't any. There's nothing unique to copy about the story.
>>25436635>UniqueDoesn't have to be uniqueWhatever the core premise and esthetic choices are, they're going to be mass copied and flood RS
>>25436639>the core premise and esthetic choicesWhat is the core premise and esthetic choices of this story?
>>25436653see >>25436544Are you implying it doesnt have a premise and doesnt have an esthetic, lmao?
>>25436658No, I'm asking you how you can tell it's going to be mass copied if you can't tell me what's going to be copied? Are you just going to say every story going forward is a Gifted-like?lmao
>>25436658>estheticGifted doesn't have it.
>>25436675>I'm asking you how you can tell it's going to be mass copiedsee >>25436591
>>25436691What are the copies copying? How do you know that they're copies?
>>25436692>What are the copies copying?The core premise and estheticWe sure are going in loops here
>>25436352Good recommendation. I will get it. Sounds like a western equivalent of Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
>>25436694We're going in loops because you're belief is grounded in nothing, you know it's grounded in nothing but won't admit it because this is 4chan and you have to hang on to the last little bit of ego you still have left.
>>25436698All massive successes get copied. All books have a premise. Doesn't matter what that premise is, it'll get copied.Not sure why you're being a numbskull about it.
>>25436706Okay then tell us how you will recognize the copies?
>>25436706Gifted itself is like a copy of a copy of a copy of some mid litrpg story. Its premise is completely unoriginal. It may or may not be written with an AI but it is more or less coherent, I guess slop writers could try copying that.
>>25436352>>25436697The old tv show I, Claudius is also kino.
>>25436722NTA but you're sealioning. That's retarded.
>>25436729No because I'm not being polite about it.
I constantly see Lord of the Mysteries, Reverend Insanity and Shadow Slave, presented as this top 3 of webnovels. I read Reverend Insanity and overall liked it, despite the bloat and sub-par prose. I tried to read Shadow Slave and got 600 chapters in. While I like some of the ideas, I can't tolerate the childish protagonist and the formulaic way of writing that is presented. Maybe its a me problem.That said, is Lord of the Mysteries actually good or is it overhyped like RI and Shadow Slave? Are there any actually good webnovels? I'm debating whether to even try LotM at all, since the protagonist, from what I've seen, seems far less interesting than RI's. Does it make up that deficit in some other way?
>>25436722I won't because I haven't read itThis changes nothing about the claims I have made
>>25436732I couldn't get into LotM
>>25436737It does because you won't be able to prove that anyone even copied it.
>read synopsis>blablabla>(female name) is xxx—>dropped>read synopsis>she—>dropped>read synopsis>this book seems fine enough>click on author's profile>female author>dropped>read synopsis>both the book and the author's profile pass>spider sense is tingling>read reviewers comment>gay stuff >dropped>read synopsis>male mc, no faggotry, author is an overweight, balding 35 years old >fingers tremble>read first chapter >it's AI slop>dropped>read synopsis >male mc, no faggotry, author is a balding chud, no AI slop, nothing, not even the cover art was made by AI>read the reviews>it's another reddit chud author who asked his discord trannies friends to leave good reviews >literally no reviews discussing the book, the characters, nothing. it's just people jerking off on the author being amazing>dropped
>>25436732I get why people like lotm. But it has too many asspulls. And the MC made too many perfect guesses. I don't think he ever made a wrong guess or failed plan in the first few books. I reached the 3rd book, at some zombie or corrupted island, and was like fuck this shit. It's such a typical way to write a smart genius MC. It was super annoying especially since I was reading it around the time I was watching the Stranger kdrama. That kdrama MC made wrong guesses, got misled, made several plausible possible explanations throughout the show, in an intelligent way. Not just asspulls and perfect guesses out of nowhere. And when I complained about it, some randos would just say the later books will explain it. It's because some god or something was helping him along the way. Doesn't make it good writing imo.
>>25436747>read westoid fiction>upset it's all westoidWhat did you expect?
>>25436731Stop starting online arguments you're going to lose.
>>25436759Stop using terms you don't understand
>>25436746That also changes nothing about the claims I made
>>25436769It does because you claimed it will be heavily copied but won't be able to show that it's copied. The reason for this is there's nothing to copy that isn't already a common trope on RR.
>>25436761You were sealioning.
>>25436785No I wasn't
>>25436757imagine the smell in that room. the only real author in that picture is RinoZ at best and I'm stretching it. sadly you are right but I can't find any good eastern books to read either. It's like everything became retarded after 202
>>25436788>What is there to imitate exactly? Have you read past the chapter 14 (latest chapter posted on rr) ?>which are what exactly?>So you don't know either. Why are you claiming people are going to imitate it?>What are they copying?>Which is?>What is the core premise and esthetic choices of this story?>I'm asking you how you can tell it's going to be mass copied if you can't tell me what's going to be copied? Are you just going to say every story going forward is a Gifted-like?>What are the copies copying? How do you know that they're copies?>Okay then tell us how you will recognize the copies?ARP ARP ARP ARP
>>25436747Why does it matter who wrote it if the book is good? Insane people make the best stuff
>>25436797>I wasn't being polite>I wasn't being insincere in pretending to be looking for a debate>I was attacking the anons premise directly as I sincerely believe him to be full of shitTry again faggot
>>25436799Didn't read. You were sealioning. It signaled to others you're a massive faggot. Cope.
>>25436775>It does because you claimed it will be heavily copied but won't be able to show that it's copied.Whether or not I can show that they're copies has nothing to do with the fact they are copies. What a weird claim
>>25436801You're misusing the term, stop being retarded>>25436816cope. There won't be any copies because there's nothing to copy.
>>25436775Nothing about MLA was unique on RR eitherIt obviously had copycats
>>25436828>there's nothing to copy.It's impossible for that to be trueYou mean there's nothing unique to copy and I already addressed this dumb line of reasoning
>>25436828Nope. You were sealioning as proven by appeal to the textual evidence ITT. It signaled you're a massive faggot and embarrassingly autistic. You lose.
>>25436830Not the individual parts like opmc, but as a whole the concept of powerful Archmage wakes up/arrives in new world is something copyable.Gifted is even more generic than that. There's no whole to copy.
>>25436836Misuse of the term sealioning, you probably saw someone use it somewhere and think you're smart.
>>25436798>Why does it matter who wrote it if the book is good?when you know you know. >Insane people make the best stuffthe best stuff is made by people who are driven, wildly imaginative, and oftentimes frustrated to no end. they are successful because they are able to tailor a solution for a need they had themselves and the solution happened to resonate with other people. and it works that way in every field of work, not just art and literature.they are the guy or they're not. you don't need to stop and smell and do some gourmet eating on a turd to know it's shit
>>25436841>Misuse of the term sealioningNope. You were being a retard via asking questions over and over making you a sealion. The pedantry of autism isn't going to save you, twerp. >DURRR ACKTULLYDon't care. You're autistic, you're a faggot, your sealioning failed, and you lost. Simple as. :)
>>25436852If I was sealioning at the time it also means you are sealioning right now
>>25436853Nope, sorry. You have my permission to go back to arguing over whatever meaningless dork shit you were obsessing about in lieu of having access to pussy.
>>25436861Stop sealioning anon
What does this week's faggot-ass normalfag buzzword "sealioning" mean?
>>25436864https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
>>25436864It's when a retard responds with nothing but questions and more questions instead of actually engaging with whatever is being argued about. It's slang so it doesn't have a fixed meaning but at its core it's presenting a series of disingenuous questions over and over. It doesn't matter if the person is aware they're doing it, actively trolling vs. passively trolling, because people like the autistic retard ITT do it reflexively while lacking the self-awareness and theory of other minds to understand it beyond being intentionally annoying (i.e. their natural state).
>>25436862>t.
>>25436888wrong
>>25436888Trips of truth. >>25436889You lost, dork-fag. Closing the thread.
>>25436881That's still not what sealioning is but lets pretend that is for your sake>nothing but questionshow are these questions >>25436635 >>25436698 >>25436775You're so trucking stupid. Just stop
>how are these questions?
>>25436893>Closing the thread.defeated_male_leaves.jpeg
>>25436900He won though.
>>25436900Oh, my bad. The use of greentext means you were talking about yourself.
>>25436896Fallacy-mongering and tone policing is a worse look than sealioning (which I wasn't doing even according to your own incorrect definition)
>>25436902he admitted defeat by leaving>>25436904reddit joke
>>25436911>he admitted defeat by leavingSo he's just like your dad? I feel for the guy having had to deal with a grand autismo like yourself.
>>25436922>actual your dad jokeSad, anon is goyspiraling
>>25436923Your dad is a joke though. Like father like son.
>>25436937>goyspiraling continues
>>25436937Kek
>>25436838>Gifted is even more generic than that. There's no whole to copy.Why is it having the craziest growth of any web novel ever right now then? Haven't read it but your appraisal seems off, there's gotta be something about it
>>25435918>I never read thatFor all the people who read Renegade Immortal and especially within the webnovel-sphere ISSTH, it has always been a little funny to me how few people read A Will Eternal -- maybe they didn't like the comedic tone -- and nobody has touched AWWP, much less Er Gen's current Beyond the Timescape.
It has been over a decade and you people still think and talk about the same cultivation books. It's time to find something else.
I grew up reading light novels. How can I translate the LN writing style to prose that won’t turn off western readers?For example, let’s say I start with something like this:I was in the middle of tearing my hair out over homework when—BANG!The door slammed open, followed by a sharp, bubbly voice."Anon, let's hang out!"The speaker was a tall, athletic girl with shiny black hair cropped close to her neck, dressed in a sleeveless running top and joggers. As usual, she let herself into my room without waiting for an answer."Go away. I'm busy.""Huh? Don't tell me you still haven't finished your homework."She leaned over my shoulder to inspect the math problem I'd been wrestling with for the better part of an hour. Up close, I could see a faint flush on her tan cheeks and beads of sweat tracing down her boyish face.A wave of strong, sweaty odor hit me, and I scrunched my nose."Ew. You reek. Get away from me." I recoiled, pinching my nostrils shut.She let out an indignant snort and drove a fist straight into my arm."OW! What was that for?!""Hmph! For your information, I'm sweating because I finished my homework ages ago and still had time for a run. So? Do you want my help or not?"I rubbed my throbbing arm and glared at her.This violent gorilla was my next-door neighbor and childhood friend, Tomboy-chan. She was the ace of the school's track team and a certified math genius on top of it. Some people really did get all the gifts.Every time she tutored me, she wore that same superior smirk that made my blood boil.I wanted so badly to throw her out of my room, but…I looked down at my barely touched papers, then out at the dark cityscape beyond the window. I sighed."...Fine.""What was that? I couldn't hear you." Tomboy-chan leaned in, the corner of her mouth creeping up smugly.God, she's so annoying."...Yes. Please help me with my homework.""Hehe! Then scoot over. Here, for this one, all you need to do is..."
>>25436983Less exclamation marks probably.
>>25436850> you don't need to stop and smell and do some gourmet eating on a turd to know it's shitthat's what I'm trying to say.read a few paragraphs. if it sucks it sucks if it doesn't it doesn't. Why are you doing research on the author.
>>25436983your line breaks are arbitrary in a way that annoys me, they don't call attention to the parts of the passage that want it>, dressed in a sleeveless running top and joggers. As usual, she let herself into my room without waiting for an answer.should be more like:>, dressed in a sleeveless running top and joggers.>She had let herself into my room without waiting for an answer.>As usual.and "I sighed." should also be in its own lineitemize your lines so that they each do one thing, and have commentary at the end of descriptions:>She was the ace of the school's track team and a certified math genius on top of it. Some people really did get all the gifts.>Every time she tutored me, she wore that same superior smirk that made my blood boil.>I wanted so badly to throw her out of my room, but…should be:>She was the ace of the school's track team and a certified math genius on top of it.>Every time she tutored me, she wore that same superior smirk that made my blood boil.>Some people really did get all the gifts.>I wanted so badly to throw her out of my room, but…you can join some of those lines together if you don't want every sentence to be its own line
>>25436983Read Super Supportive and copy that prose style
>>25436462>Surviving as a Plagiarist Author in Another WorldYO HOLY SHIT SOMEONE ELSE READ THIS?Yeah the fucking tranny showing up out of nowhere and forcing the mc to admit the novel is a metaphor for his trans identity was so weird and jarring it instantly made me drop it.
>>25437031come on anon, you know those first chapters won't give you any insight on th story nor the author's mindset. they hide it all in the beginning. hooking the reader is mostly a science. if you're not filtering by author, you're just gambling with your time and money
>>25436747>overweight, baldingFuck you I'm seeing good results with fin+min and I'm a healthy weight finally, soon I'll be lean enough to see abs.I'm going to make it.That said you're a massive faggot. Read Azarinth Healer.
>>25437037It's not necessarily arbitrary. That's a remarkably accurate example of LN-style writing from Japan.
>>25437100>not necessarily arbitraryThat means arbitrary.
>>25437142It's arbitrary in the sense that it can be written more to your tastes and still be grammatically correct, but not arbitrary in the sense that he's copying the generic LN "style."If you can't read moonrunes and haven't read any raw LN before, you really shouldn't be opining on the subject at all. Read native english westernslop. It's FOR you.
Sea lion nigger won!
>>25436602gloruious gweilo here, I'm not writing a litrpg or a isekai or cultivation desu
>>25437189I wrote one of those once. It didn't do very well. RR is just not the place for other genres.I have a feeling it'll do much better on Amazon but I'm a lazy fuck and haven't finished editing it for epub. It'd probably make a good audiobook, too, if I found a woman who could properly voice act.
>>25437087>read chapter>if you liked it keep reading>if you didn't, stopits really that simpleIf I read 10 chapters and enjoy it that means I enjoyed 10 chapters. If chapter 11 sucks I stop reading. What is really lost here?Filtering by author is the exact kind of behavior that you yourself say isn't needed.
>>25437182not him btwbut at least he has an opinion. you just seethe and spam reply for no apparent reasonget a life
>>25436988>>25437037>>25437063Okay. What about this:I was in the middle of pulling my hair out over homework when—BANG—my door flew open, followed by a cheerful voice."Anon, let's hang out."Standing in the doorway was a tall, athletic girl with short black hair, wearing a running top and joggers. She marched into my room without waiting for an answer.I glanced up, annoyed. "Go away. I'm busy.""Wait, don't tell me you're still stuck on your homework." She leaned over my shoulder to check out the math problem I'd been staring at for almost an hour. Up close, I could see her cheeks were flushed pink, sweat dripping down the side of her tan face.Then the smell hit me."Ew. You reek. Get away from me." I scooted back, pinching my nose.She huffed and punched me straight in the arm."Ow! What was that for?""For your information, I'm sweaty because I already finished my homework and had time for a run after. So? Do you want my help or not?"I rubbed my arm, already sure it was going to bruise, and glared at her. This walking wrecking ball was my next-door neighbor and oldest friend, Jane Tomboy. She was the fastest girl on the track team and, somehow, also a math genius with a 4.0 GPA. Life could be so unfair. Whenever she tutored me, she got that same smug smile that made my blood boil.Part of me wanted to kick her out of my room. But then I looked down at my homework, which barely had anything written on it, and out the window at the sky deepening into black.I sighed. "...Fine.""Hm? What was that? I didn't quite catch it." She leaned in closer, grinning ear to ear.God, I hate her."Please help me with my homework.""Then scoot over, shorty." Jane laughed and, instead of grabbing her own chair, bumped me sideways with her hip until I nearly slid off my seat. I yelped, but she'd already thrown an arm around me, pinning me in place."Hey! What's the big idea?""Focus, or we'll be here all night." She tightened her grip, her sweat soaking into my shirt. Gross. I squirmed, but Jane ignored it and jabbed a finger at my paper. "Okay, for this one, all you have to do is..."
Who else here read glowfic?https://www.glowfic.com/boardsIt's a weird new format where two or more authors take turns roleplaying as different characters and posting their replies to an old, 2000s style forum thread.It also produces some of the best fucking novels I have ever read, particularly those written by Iarwain (Eliezer Yudkowsky/Less Wrong) and lintamande (Kelsey Piper/The Unit of Caring).The greatest of all glowfics is planecrash, in which Keltham, an investor wannabe from dath ilan (a parallel Earth with much higher coordination) dies and gets isekai'd to Cheliax (basically magical North Korea) in Golarion (the setting of Pathfinder). Hilarity ensues.https://www.projectlawful.com/board_sections/703
>>25437290That all sounds absolutely terrible.(MoR is okay but lesswrong is fucking stupid)
>>25437290I can't stand ratfic
>>25437290>glowfica.k.a. collaborative fictionreminds me of this old joke: https://pastebin.com/QKaqRTXH
>>25437290Hey, this is just non-sexual RP!
>>25436983I would say more paragraphs, but that might be my preference for real books talking. It drives me nuts when every sentence has its own line.
>>25437361>non-sexualYou didn't read Project Lawful, did you?
>this is a story about two sistersincest?
>>25436965Coomers with mommy fetish are the main reason for its popularity.
wow, crossposting my webnovel on WattPad was a complete waste of time.
>>25437486Wattpad is for foids who want to be bred by trillionaire werewolves.
>>25437489That's every foid you fucking retard.
>>25437499both revolve around the need to feel special just for being you
>>25437513With the exception that one "romance" is rooted in violence and psychological manipulation, and the other one is rooted in physical attraction. We are not the same.
>>25437486Treat it as practice for the future. Jeets have been mass-dumping AI-produced romance slop on RR this past week and it's only a matter of time before the site turns to wattpad 2.0
>>25437516>writing is worse than translated gookslop
>>25437546When the writing is by foids?Yes.
>>25437554Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi has good writing though
>>25436602"When will western webnovelists start wrting shit nobody will read to appease retarded autists like me?"/wg/ is that way litficnigger
>>25437559Holy fuck, kill yourself already
>>25437565But then I won't experience the next chapter (it will be absolutely peak btw)
>>25437559YWNBAW, cocopi
>>25437559Is it at least yuri?
>>25437570Unless he uses a yin-yang rotation gu on himself
what the FUCK is a yuri?
God I'm so tired of this samefag theater
>>25437583That's irrelevant. /wng/ is merely a reflection of the current state of serialized online fiction. You are tired of /wng/ but you don't seem to be tired of endless low quality slop that is posted daily on sites like rr and others (in fact you are probably of those offending slop authors whos posting them)
>>25437583That's the entire website. The difference is on slow shithole boards like /lit/ it's just way more noticeable because there aren't enough other anons posting between the samefag spammers.
>samefag theater complainers are more annoying than the samefag theater What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
>>25437593Nobody cares about your litfic garbage. Even tradpub boomers don't read it anymore. Stop bringing it up passively aggressively like a reddit faggot.
>>25436966I tried AWE and AWWP, but they were to comedic for me to enjoy. I did like Beyond the Timescape, when I read what was translated couple years ago
Reminder, the subhumans who spend so much time on their in-thread personas, samefagging, and general antagonizing behavior aren't in the same hobby as others here. To them, 4chan IS the hobby, and the various boards and topics are just the flavor of shitposting they like at the time.
>/wng/ — Web Novel General>contains barely any discussion about web novelsclassic
>>25437599>litficI didn't bring it up. I meant the absolute lack of standards in webnovel fiction, the complete lack of skill and total incompetence of web novel authors.
>>25437626There is a range of skill and competence between different authors.You just don't like the medium itself.
I'm reading this Gifted thing that everyone's going nuts for and it's really bad. How the fuck is this so massive?
>>25437628It's unequal though, there is 1 good author or a novel and at the same 50 bad ones (the ration is even worse desu)
>>25437088all these products are just going to make you impotent and you deserve it for shilling your reddit book. God bless natural selection>>25437567you are most likely bald and overweight and you 'write' AI slop while pretending to be the femMC in your story. did you imagine yourself having thick thighs? you can't call someone a faggot if you display literal faggot behavior. plus I am certain not even femMC authors read femMC stories. please remove yourself
>>25437234>If I read 10 chapters and enjoy it that means I enjoyed 10 chapters. If chapter 11 sucks I stop reading. What is really lost here?your time. that's retarded, you did not enjoy anything and will not remember it fondly as the whole experience has been spoiled. you wouldn't recommend anyone a book you dropped 30 pages in, would you?
>>25437648You, meanwhile, read nothing
>>25437643hahahaha holy fucking projection niggerman, I really hit a nerve huhi don't write fmc right now but you're such a fucking tumor i might make my next book fmc, just for youalso i look like coraline's dad irl but with a beard, and unlike you i'm not insecure about my appearance
>plus I am certain not even femMC authors read femMC stories.I do
>>25437666this guy has some serious hangups about foids, it's amazingi'm a misogynist irl and even i don't really mind reading fmc as long as it's not an obnoxious manhating girlboss
>Your [stupidly broken ability] can be upgraded to [absolutely ridiculous bullshit]. Would you like to proceed?>Yes>Congratulations! Upgrade successful!>You could take over the world by snapping your fingers now, would you like to do that?>No. I'm going to go to my room and cry for days because of something mildly sad that happened yesterday
>>25435752To me it just read like the author was overthinking things because he was trying to portray intelligence
>>25437640So just like everything else where the barrier to entry is low
>>25437681My femc
>>25436756Good point. One of the more annoying aspects of amateur writing is the infallible nature of the MC's. Often the best moments are when MC's, and subsquently the reader, get hoodwinked. RI is guilty of this a lot, but one of its better moments was in the Three Kings arc, where Bai Ning Bing betrays Fang Yuan and takes him by surprise. It was a great moment.I'd love to read a story with a protagonist somewhat similar to Fang Yuan, but more flawed and less robotic. A more human Fang Yuan would be perfect.
>>25437765Cultivation Nerd is literally that
>>25437607That's fair. They (AWE/AWWP) do get out of hand very quickly when it comes to the seriousness of the tone.
Commissioning art of my characters. Do you think RR would bitch if I used this as my cover?Also, for my release schedule I’m going to drop my first twelve chapters at once, along with doing an ad, along with advertising this new story on my old story (which has about 400 followers). Hopefully that will kick things off to a good start
>>25437840Stagger chapter releases by at least a day so they show up in feeds repeatedly instead of just once.
>>25437842That makes sense. Maybe I should drop the first five all at once, though? Just to give readers something to bite into
>>25437848That's fair enough, just don't dump everything all at once. Daily uploads over several weeks trumps dumping your entire backlog in one day every time.
>>25437840Is the artist on the boorus, they draw some nice curves.
>>25437840Mods will very likely bitch at you for the porny cover. I've seen some rejected for less
>>25437765>A more human Fang YuanIt will never happen, at least not in western novels.
>>25436983What LN are you reading? It's terrible.Try Bookworm.
>>25437869Actually they’re a channer I know, as far as I know they don’t have any socials up and active>>25437891Bummer. Well hopefully since this isn't my first story on RR, I’ll be okay
The Feren-end.
does anyone hate ravensdagger? i hate ravensdagger.
>>25438235Why?
>>25438235I don't actively think about ravensnigger
>>25437840>>25437891I've see others get away with it (Moneymaker and Scribe of Reality). There's no consistency in their rules enforcement.
>>25438304They probably go by feel and to be fair anons cover is a good amount more porny than either of those ones you mentioned.
>>25438304It works like Chinese censorship, "we don't know how to define it, but you know when you see it."
>>25438334Anons is action based. The two examples I gave has one with two girls on a bed and the other one the girl has breasts bigger than her head and a massive cleavage..
>>25435846OH YEAHA while back I made a post about how Earth had been homogenized in AWWP and someone replied saying of course because they're all Chinese.There was a comment in the webnovel many chapters later that said everyone came from an Eastern country roflmao haha
>>25438304>>25438334The solution is really simple: use a placeholder cover at launch, get approved, do the launch, put up the real cover.At that point the moderators will most likely just ask anon to change the cover, AT WHICH POINT he can say okay what's over the line, I'll have my artist change THAT PART, and maybe they don't like the butt but they're fine with the boobs so he can easily put the title over that and advertise his patreon saying patrons can download the title-less cover art on that site.The key to this is anchoring bias. Once a fiction is approved for release, the anchor point is that it's already approved. Overcoming that bias requires a strong reason. Before it's approved, the anchor point is that it's NOT approved, and so any little reason not to approve it seems stronger.Do not abuse this power because if you do the RR mods might change their policy on cover art uploads and nobody wants that. Personally I don't even think it crosses the line as is, but one never knows.
To the surprise of nobody, Echoes didn't win the Honeyfeed contest.With that, Echoes is free from its Honeysneed prison.https://www.honeyfeed.fm/novels/30962I have 80k or so written, and volume 1 is planned to be 120k to 150k.If anyone wants to try a non-isekai, here's your chance. I might drop a few more early draft chapters if somebody likes it.I was thinking about a simultaneous RR and Honeysneed release when it's ready, but HF seems pretty dead. For two months, I had basically zero engagement.I wrote a long paragraph what Echoes is about but I then threw the whole thing out. Watering it down, it's a character-centric story with scifi elements that is neither action nor slice of life. MC avoids action, and a large portion of the story is dedicated to his daily life. This is by intent.It's a down to earth story with relatively small stakes, not because the stakes are meaningless, but because they're overshadowed by the world at large. Is it worth even shrugging your shoulders over a few lives after billions are dead?The premise is basically a NEET who did the math (much like everyone else) and figured out that working a regular job is just not worth it. You can commit a theoretically victimless crime and end up walking out with multiple years' worth of salaries on your back, IF you walk out. The if is the trick.On the story itself, I do want to dare call it 'cozy', but I don't think it can be - everything is just way too wrong to call it that fairly. If you want to be disdainful and call Anomalous Particle Adaptation 'magic', then it's urban fantasy, with scifi, action, drama, romance, and slice of life elements.If you want to read about a greedy loot goblin and cute girls, like burgers, like tacticool, and like light scifi, you might like it.
>>25438075It's over. Thanks for 1,136 pages of libro!
>>25438434I'm guessing it was for the Honeyfeed x Novelous monthly oneshot since you only did 5k words.
>>25438451Yeah, and it was also 2 months ago.I'm genuinely surprised by what won. I thought one of those big 10k+ views stories would be it.
>>25438434>If anyone wants to try a non-isekai, here's your chanceGood luck senpai, its practically impossible
>>25438434Dude, did you really just copy Roadside Picnic and call it a day?
>>25438493There are no wishgranters in this setting, only the government. And the government does everything in its power to go against everyone's wishes.
>>25438434>drama, romance, and slice of life elements.I don't understand why you have to write this.
>>25438364anons has a pantie shot and her ass hanging out with a low view of her cheeksit's not even comparable to the other 2
>>25438304>>25438364>>25438517Maybe if I put the title here as a censor?
any non-RR recs? I'm fully out of good stuff at this point.
>>25438532Should be fine at that point, imo.>>25438517Technically it's a leotard, not a panty-shot. It's not any more risque than any comic book cover from the previous century.
>>25438532Ugh.. they say don't judge, but if I see a book with the cover like that then it goes straight into trash
>>25438663Really, why?I'm incredibly attracted to lewd images like that and it pretty much guarantees I'll at least check out the synopsis and maybe the first chapter.
>>25438667I don't read smut.
>>25438550Kingdom Bloodline on Webnovel
>>25438681we got mr retard over here
>>25438635>It's not any more risque than any comic book cover from the previous century.Yeah and quite a lot of those would get rejected from RR tooNot sure why that one guy said your cover is comparable to those two other examples because they really are notThe ass cheek hanging out is the most egregious part so maybe you get away with it by covering it with title, but I would really not get your hopes up.
>release a chapter that's a little sexual, but doesn't have actual sex >sudden drop to sub 3 stars what the fuck is wrong with royal road readers?
>>25438762Context?
>>25438762horny writing is very hard to pull off. 10x more true if its not a normally horny book. you made your readers cringe and they dropped your book and left an annoyed rating on the way out. unfortunately, that's on you not them, that's what the rating system is for
How strict is royal road actually? Because reading their terms of service they basically say they have the right to censor, ban, and penalize for basically anything their staff personally find offensive.
>>25438762I've had decent success with asking readers to rate. Not every chapter, but every month or so I'll say we're close to X milestone and ask people to leave a rating (milestones are purely the number of ratings and reviews, it's not rating manipulation).You can't please everyone and shouldn't try to do that. Instead, find the people you're pleasing already and ask them to rate. They're more likely to rate positively.
>>25438783Not terribly strict, but the policy is broad to give them maximum wiggle room. Your best bet is to look at what most people are doing with recent releases and stay on that level.
>>25438707Explain?
>>25438762People don't want to read smut, regardless of whether there is a lot of it or very little.
>>25438841Given that smut is super popular everywhere it isn't explicitly banned, I would say you are wrong about people not wanting to read it. That said, RR is a place where it's explicitly banned. They don't want RR to become taken over by romantacy. So it's reasonable gate keeping. That or it was too unexpected. I think if it actually fit the story the readers wouldn't have minded so much.
>>25438681>>25438707>>25438823>>25438667It’s more fantasy horror than smut, I just like attractive women
Wtf is an "immortal cave"? Do cultivators really live in caves? Are they literal cavemen?
>>25438762ameriburger learns that the rest of the world is not as oversexualized and don't like smut in stories that did not originally contain smut (who would have guessed!)
>>25438762Maybe women were reading your book and didn't like the sex stuff?
>>25438938Half of novelupdates is smut. Half of scribblehub too. Most WebNovel stories contain it to some extent. Americans are the prudish ones. Just compare American (or Canadian) video games to Korean video games.
>>25438935It's basically place with high Qi concentration. A lot of cultivators also trap the shit out of these caves and prepare Qi condensation formations and spread trinkets around to suck even more Qi. Yes they live (meditate) in those caves. Theynre not cavemen, more like living mummies
>>25438945royalroad is not novelupdates nor scribblehub, it's not the same demographics : novelsupdate was overtaken by gays and trannies and scribblehub was always female and smut themedKorean and chinese novels rarely describe sex scenes and Inve read a lot of them. Get good
>>25438963Royal Road is mostly an American/Anglo and then German audience.
>>25436602I'm writing one that is heavily progression based (college kid to marine general war hero) but far more like a western sci fi military novel (ie starship troopers) than not. I wasn't going to do any of the litrpg shit but I ended up veering into autistic tank battles and the logistics thereof so there might be some number-and-status-screen porn in there anyway. Otherwise I'm not really interested in following tropes or rpg-imitative shit. I also have a fantasy story about a fantasy mercenary learning to deal with his PTSD and hopelessness while guarding (which means fighting fuck tons of orcs) a caravan of settlers across a steppe plagued by monsters but idk if I'll finish or try to publish it. What specifically would you like to read?t. White American who doesn't even like anime very much
>>25438667it gives off the same effect as a having a harem in a story doesfucking coomersreminds me of an old fanfic i read that was pretty good, until his harem reached 4 women and the next 60k words written were interactions between them with no plot progression.i fucking hate coomers
I WILL REVIVE THE SUPERHERO + PROGRESSION FANTASY GENRE AND SURPASS SUPER SUPPORTIVE, MLA, AND GIFTED
>>25438973your progression is not personal power based? you serious? good luck i guessi specifically would like to read actual progression fantasy
>>25438973I don't have anything specific in mind, although I like fantasy. It's fine as long as it's easier to digest than a "real book". And what I dislike about litrpgs is not the rpg aspect, but the way the story is told, it's as if the author had an interesting idea for a new character for a D&D session and decided to make a webnovel out of it. They don't really feel like real stories to me. As others anons have answered me, it's either this or a book, there's no middle ground like easy to read fantasy webnovels.
I cannot read a novel anymore unless I see a harem tag on it. What to do?
>>25439220There's no qi or whatever but the MC grows psychologically, physically, and amasses a kind of small army then gets commissioned into the real army etc. and so on. The progression is marked by external signs of his successful ambition (climbing ranks and eventually building something like an empire). I'm kind of ripping off Red Dawn (the 80s movie) for the first part. Idk if it'll do well but I've read some similar stuff on there and I don't think there's a market for it anywhere else.
>>25439278you need to get a lobotomy
>>25439300Then I would still only read harem novels though?
>>25439217*takes a long drag then blows the smoke in your face*what's your premise kid
>>25438783The rules state very clearly what's allowed and what's not. What are you confused by?
>>25439501>The rules state very clearly what's allowed and what's not.No they don't, retard
>>25439513yes, they do:>>>25438783>basically anything their staff personally find offensive.Just follow this simple rule, retard.
>>25439513So what is the problem, retard???
Imagine a progfantasy story. The MC wakes up as a kid in an unfamiliar world. To understand the world better he goes to school and studies hard. He learns many wondrous and magical things until he graduates. After graduation he goes on temporary missions to earn some money since further progression is expensive. He meets a girl during this. They hit it off and get into a relationship. Eventually MC finds himself a permanent mission that he can constantly "clock in" on to earn rewards. He keeps working hard at it until one day he has saved enough to buy a house and propose to the girl.
>>25439582Progfantasy except MC wakes up wondering where did his childhood go and avoids clocking in, only clocks in to keep a roof over his head.
>>25439582>He meets a girl during this. They hit it off and get into a relationship.I would drop your story right there. Why do authors think that every isekai/litrpg/progression story with a protagonist trasnported from another world has to develop (devolve) into romance?If I am reading about somebody who was sent to a new world and is now exploring and learning magic, why would I want this turn into romance?
>>25439657who hurt you?
>>25439661What do you mean?
>>25439657It's fantasy because he gets a job and a girlfriend. The rest of what I described is just real life.
>>25439582Sure. Now give me a reason to actually read this.
>>25439657I forgot to finish my post:It's human nature to look for companions and intimacy. It's weird and unusual if they don't.People go on a vacation to another country or city and will often find companionship there. A permanent trip to another world is almost guaranteed to have it 'devolve' into that.
>>25439657>Why do authors think that every isekai/litrpg/progression story with a protagonist trasnported from another world has to develop (devolve) into romance?
>>25439736That may be the nature of an average person from the masses. The protagonist, who died and by some random chance, one in quadrillion, managed to not have his soul scrubbed and instead drifted through the multiverse into a new world (and in the process glimpsed of something even beyond our existence), is not an average person. Arriving in a new world with that knowledge and experience, a world where things like magic exist and possibilites are endless but then acting like an ordinary person with ordinary goals and expectations goes against all logic and reason.
>>25439756If an attractive woman threw herself at your feet I'm sure you would reject her you dickless retard.
>>25439761If you want to write smut or romantasy then do just that and upload it to amazon or scribblehub
>>25439776People love romance subplots and you being a little faggot won't change that.
>>25439780The authors are just too dumb to write anything meaningful and develop a story in an interesting way. Usually around chapter 10 they have resort to padding and filler (romance).
>>25439780No they don't. Romanceslop has its readers, but you won't blow up into a mega success if your story has romance. Thousands will skip
>>25439820Billions will read.
Is it better if the story stays focused on a single well fleshed out setting or is it better if after every major arc to move on to a different setting?
>>25439820Explain the success of Headless Over Heels, then.
>>25439820Romance is literally the most popular genre that is outselling everything else by a very wide margin. You are ether just being argumentative or you are comically ignorant.
>>25439836>settingWhat?
>>25439843The place (and time period) the story takes place.
Romantasy is the most successful subgenre of fantasy, to the point of there being very little other fantasy still being published. It's not popular because no one will read it. Harlequin books? Never caught on. No one's ever read smut in their lives. In point of actual fact no one has ever heard of Liu Bei, Guan Yu, Cao Cao, because that's actually the Romance of the Three Kingdoms and thus illegible.
Women don't read webnovels
>>25439852They very much do.
>>25439852Women won't read your webnovel. I'm pretty sure men won't either.
>>25438935>>25438951Exactly what anon said. The premise is that it's an enclosed safe space where no one can bother you with high concentrations of qi. Although it depends from case to case, they are for the most part meant for you to cultivate in. They are not supposed to be an ideal living environment, they are supposed to be an ideal cultivation environment.
>>25439848It's hard to say without knowing your writing, nigger.I know for a fact that Araki is good at writing travel-heavy stories and that Stone Ocean was his weakest story.
>>25439864>chinx are are about fengshui and balancing their room humors or whatever the fuck for optimized luck or some shit>go to a wet ass cold cave because it has "highest qi" and sit there for n days, weeks, months, years on endRidiculous culture.
>>25439868Formations solve that. You put a bunch of formations, auxiliary or defensive and you sit down on a rock for a 100 years until you go up one small realm.
>>25439839>>25439849Keep romance and prograssion fantasy/webnovels separate. It's the main reason why the romantasy genre exists.
>>25439859Of course they won't.They can't read something that doesn't exist
>>25439582I will read it. No kidding. Please.
>>25439431No need to tell you. You'll see it anyway in a couple of months, on top of Rising Stars
>crying about femc stories when the best western wn is femc
>>25439870All that cultivation and then some random white devil with a gun just shoots you without cultivating a single second and then cooming all his qi into a random chinese jade beauty.
>>25439217i was going to do that too, actually.
>SuperheroFucking nerds.
>>25439901>All that cultivation and then some random white devil with a gun just shoots you without cultivating a single secondWhat now gweilo?
>>25439820This anon is rightRomance in western WNs is deeply unpopular, huge amounts of readers will ignore a story if it has it
>>25440011Fantasy authors don't seem to understand that when you've got enough destructive capability then you don't need to be able to destroy your specific target if they still have human-like needs. You just destroy their environment instead.
>>25440399More like, readers don't understand this
>/wng/ repeats at nauseam that scribblehub is a female-centric site>check most popular>harem>harem>harem>harem>harem...>literally EIGHTEEN out of 25 top stories are harems and the rest either have no smut/romace tagged and a few gender-bendersWhy do people go on the internet just to lie?
>>25440416women love harem fics, anon; it's like rapefics, you wouldn't think they'd like those, but they doit's inexplicable to our male minds
>>25440399He just wanted to talk
>>25440416>/wng/ repeats at nauseam that scribblehub is a female-centric siteWho the fuck ever said this, retard?
>>25440416>>25440468He mixed up wattpad and scribblehubWhat a retard
>>25440468Just in this thread, retard>>25438963>>25439776
>new clara casewell chappie tomorrowoh boy oh boy oh boy!
>>25440479>>/wng/ repeats at nauseam>it was one clueless fool
>>25440479That second one doesn't say anything about female centric. Scibblehub does have smut on it.First one is by some ESL retard that thinks western web novels are full of sex,
Who else is working on their own Gifted clone?
>>25440416>>/wng/ repeats at nauseam that scribblehub is a female-centric sitehas never once been said
>>25440506Just in this thread, retard>>25438963>>25439776
>>25440493>no one said this!>(gets two examples) o-one might have said it but it doesn't matter!Are you a jew or just one in spirit? I'm not going back threads for where else I might have seen it either, you're not worth talking to.
>>25440508the second one literally doesnt say what you claim>ad nauseum>it's one post and by some dude ranting about trannies in the same breathyou may be the retard here
>>25440517>no one said this!>(gets two examples) o-one might have said it but it doesn't matter!Are you a jew or just one in spirit? I'm not going back threads for where else I might have seen it either, you're not worth talking to.
>>25440521you said ad nauseumpeople call scribblehub the smut centric royal road. and that's correctstop getting one guyyed and then sperging out over it, how retarded can you be? no shit people say incorrect stuff on the internet, but as you can see by multiple people calling you dumb, this was not the prevailing perception for SH, you literally listened to one loud retard and had a meltie
>>25440508>>25440521Thanks identical twinbro.
>>25440416This thread is wrong about most things, I've noticed. They don't even have the broadest idea of what the RR landscape looks like sometimes. Like 70% of the confident posts I see are straight up factually incorrect.Do not get advice from here.
>>25440399By enough destructive capabilities, do you mean the military or the cultivator guy barging into the base?
>>25440501Don't do it, anon. We don't need more trash.
>>25440599What's wrong with pic?
>>25439838That book has 3000 followers, in what universe is that a mega success? Like I get that definitions change and to you that might be huge, but even then. Really, what an awful choice to make your point with
>>25439839Yes, in published fiction, fanfic, etc. We're in the web novel thread though, obviously that anon meant romance isn't big in WNs. Deliberately being disingenuous, or just retarded? Call it
>>25440574Reminds me of the chapter in Ave Xia where the main character is contemplating how he's going to need months of undermining this evil city governor's base to topple him and remove him from power, then this higher cultivation level girl that ran into him whose dao happens to be justice just grabs him, flies to the city, drops through the roof of the palace and orders the guy to surrender then proceeds to slam a giant ice fist onto him. It sounds silly but it was so cathartic with how generally slow paced the novel is, one of the more satisfying xianxia moments.
>>25440599Out of all the terrible writing in that WN, I can't understand the insistence on making the girl be a total bombshell. It looks so forced.
>>25440501are there any reincarnation stories where the MC becomes a parricide out of his ingratitude and malice?
>>25440613It's lame.
>>25440756It's three paragraphs of nothing importantAll books have random nothingness like thisOr what's lame about it? It's just fucking nothing lol
>>25440659I know that's both for comedy and to illustrate how the cultivation world works (individual power above everything), but that still sounds very dumb.
>>25440762The whole chapter is like that, the entire story is like that. >Looking between Mum and Gramps, I tried to find the words to explain the secret I had held tight for so long — but I kept coming up blank.Why does this need to be stated? Either fucking explain or don't. Remember mc already lived a life on earth before being reborn in a new world. Why does he act like he mentally a five year old?>If I had just come clean about the Path of Soulstealing when I was younger, maybe this whole situation could have been avoided.>if I hadThis is even more unnecessary and totally redundant. >Mum simply smiled at me encouragingly, as loving as ever. I hoped by the time this conversation was over that she wouldn’t be looking at me differently with her heart-shaped face and striking blue eyes.She is his mother, why is he describing her like that? Wtf?Trash novel, a literal garbage.
>>25440808Because that's the Gifted subgendre. Mommy-likes
This shit is rancid even by web novel standards, how the fuck is this doing well.
>>25440808>Why does he act like he mentally a five year old?>a literal garbageuh oh stinky esl
>>25440857So, how old is the kid in this?"
>>25440857>how the fuck is this doing well.I want to know this too because it's not doing well it's doing better than any web novel everThe patreon is up to $17,000 a month. The story has been out for 8 days. It's going to smash through every record by a fuck ton.
>>25440864>>25440857Are webnovels just newest mafia money laundering scam that I wasn't smart enough to catch onto?
>>25440859I was phoneposting
You smelly nerds call everything garbage, without exception
>>25440948I am garbage.
>>25440905Yeah kinda. But there are people willing to throw money around. Fish where the fish are and all that. Even my mediocre webnovel makes about $400/month. It only pays for food and energy drinks but it's nice.I'm mildly hopeful stubbing and taking the first parts to KU will bring in even more money but I dunno. If I could get to $2k/mo I'd be fully covering all my regular expenses.If you're willing to write to market there's never been a better time in history to be a fledgling independent author. The barriers to entry are basically nothing but the time actually spent writing and uploading.
i've almost read 2000 chapters of shadow slave but i've gone from reading like 20 to even 100 chapters a day to reading like 1 chapter a week cause every time i open the current chapter i get bored after reading the first sentence. I still am interested in the series so i was considering just skimming the story from now on but i'm very autistically adamant on reading every sentence when it comes to reading cause of OCD or something. It feels like cheating and not actually engaging with the story right and not feeling the payoffs as much
>>25441079>and not actually engaging with the story right and not feeling the payoffs as muchIf I couldn't skim I would just not read web serialsPacing is atrocious in serials, for very obvious reasons
>>25441085you're right, it sucks that a cool setting is being milked like this, but based on the antarctica arc whenever i get really bored with the story G3 can still turn it around so i'm just forcing myself to keep going and hoping that he's still somewhat writing with intent
>>25441050>Even my mediocre webnovel makes about $400/monthi sometimes forget there are successful writers in this threadwhy are you even in this thread anyway? are you here to give advice or do you expect to learn something from the other posts?
>>25441147I'm here for the conversation of course. Sometimes I give advice. I post much less now that the thread is infested with mentally ill weirdos and stalkers.
>>25441154>now/wng/ had a persistent spreadsheet of its authors and their works in its OP until like a month ago
>>25441160That wasn't even the problem. It was people who posted and then some stalker would go out of his way to find them despite them not wanting to be associated with 4chan. That asshole is still around.Then the spreadsheet german sperged out and quit when public opinion turned against the doxxing behavior. And good riddance.
Why do successful authors mostly have beards, and are fatWhere are the ripped authors? Will going to the gym negatively impact my writing quality?
>>25441340cocopi is a slender, beardless woman with big boobs and fat pussy lips.
>>25441340>and are fatIt's a deeply sedentary job, most office workers are fat too.>GymMost people aren't ripped, extract yourself from the social media delusion. Normal people don't look like they "go to the gym", you basically have to use steroids to meet that standard in this diseased age.
>>25441350>and fat pussy lips.Is this attractive to degens?
>>25441367stop replying seriously to bored desperate attention seekers, they're what killed this general to start with
>>25441340>where are the ripped authors?Right here. Ripped and based.
>>25440613>tried to find the words>coming up blank>hindsight was perfect >gnawing away at me>heart shaped face >striking eyesThese are all literary cliches.
>>25441445you might be ripped but you're also low reader if so
>>25441489>literary cliche>wngwhere the FUCK do you think you are, you actual retard?
>>25440864Where are you getting $17k/month?
>>25441527paid members times like .85 or .9which is most patreons with a 10 dollar tier
>>25440905Probably. There's nothing organic about any of this. When you look at recent releases list, like 95% of stories posted all day have flat out 0 followers, 0 ratings, less than 100 views, and no comments. And then out of nowhere comes some dude who crosses thousands in a couple of days, despite being the exact same generic "dude goes to be op in another world" slop as the rest of them? Suuure, nothing to see here
>>25441555breaking out of the flood of slop is a real problemthat said this is the worst possible moment to seethe about it because he's an established authoryou just come off schizo here
srsly, what other winnie is so fucking peak?
>>25441565can you stop giving fmc readers such a dogshit reputation? we were the sane ones till you showed up, damn
>>25441570rec some femc novels
>>25441572I like katalepsis worm apgte tyoa the most, off the top of my headapgts is ok, idk i dont feel like thinking more Anyway stop being a ritual poster freak like I said
>>25441579Advanced Platform for Global Technology Exchange?Total Yield Optimization Algorithm?
>>25441586oh you're the mla spammer too? makes sense
>>25441572https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/109544/the-art-of-seeking-gold
>>25441588I'm also the Spectral Soul and what are gu spammer.Sometimes I also fake seethe about femc novels.
>>25441596I honestly don't disbelieve you, this thread died very easily. it could just be one turbo ill anon keeping it up
>>25441596You're like half the posts in the thread
What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
>>25441601>it could just be one turbo ill anon keeping it uphas been the case for months
>every post I dislike was made by the same anonschizophrenia
>>25441624he admitted it and I believe him
all me desu
What would Giant Sun do in this situation?
It's bizarre how alwaysrollsaone is still using AI slop covers for A Soldier's Life. The amount of money he's lost from having those covers is probably greater than what it would've taken to hire an artist.
An inherently violent man isekai'd to a world that literally does not know war or even violence. Murder is literally unheard of. Accidental manslaughter is the worst thing you can do.The story wouldn't be what you think it would be about.Yes or no?
>>25441725>tranime imageno
>>25441732You are on a tranime website, tranny.
>>25441725how am I supposed to judge a story that you've assured me wouldn't be what I think it ismight as well ask me to guess what number you're thinking of
>>25441746The number is 67.
>>25441725I think my eye's would glaze over your synopsis, and I would move on. That would be a no.
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>>25441717lmao no one gives a fuck about AI covers
>>25441717Anyone who enjoys that tripe will inevitably have no sense of taste strong enough to care
