Killdozer! Edition>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffgPrevious>>25433962
>>25442189Is Killdozer Big Wheel's archenemy?
Fuck yevFuck baynefagFuck youreviewsareshitfagFuck pagespammerFuck bakkerfag
>>25437875re:three body problem >>25442208
>>25442224I always assumed Three Body Problem was about a sci-fi love triangle.
>>25442269is the reality a letdown?
A Trade of Blood, Shadow of the Leviathan #3 - Robert Jackson Bennett (2026)A Trade of Blood has at least four meanings: murder, marriage, cattle ranching, and slavery. All four of these involve biological manipulation. The biopunk aesthetic continues to be an influence on everything. At times there were biological versions of what's commonly seen in cyberpunk works. One character even has a data port on the back of his neck that he attaches a biological data cable into. This makes me wonder how biologically advanced the innermost parts of the empire may be. There's so much that's just so cool and fun. I love that each book deepens my appreciation of the setting.The plot is a murder mystery in which the implications spiral ever more outwards to where it could cause the collapse of the empire's way of life. Solving that mystery before the characters isn't what I'm interested in, though most readers should be able to if they're paying attention.What I most enjoyed is how I imagined it all to be. The scenes were a visual spectacle and the atmosphere was superb. There's a constant sense of ambient horror that occasionally comes into sharp and disturbing focus. This was especially the case for two locations. The forest of Sapirdad has many elder mysteries, which includes among much else: non-Euclidian statues, the constant sense that there's something just outside your peripheral vision, mind-altering botanical pheromones, and an unshakable of foreboding dread. The flensing halls were rendered as a place where unspeakable horror was routine and obscene crimes against nature were mundane. I was impressed by how sinister, depraved, and monstrous it was made to be through environmental description alone.As for Din's amorous pursuits, there's a single guy who holds his interest this time. Din may be incapable of not becoming involved with anyone who shows reciprocal interest. That seems like something that'll eventually get him into a lot of trouble. There isn't any sex on page, though there are a few descriptions of affection and being in bed afterwards.If you had any doubt what Bennett meant by anything he wrote, then his author's note at the end would dispel it. The what, how, and why are all there and explained in a clear and straightforward manner. To his credit, I felt his ideas were integrated well and didn't come across as heavy handed.This isn't a trilogy, and Bennet reiterates that this series will be of indefinite length. I don't have any problem with that, but it does affect how each book is structured. There's minimal progression towards any kind of overarching plot and character development is lessened. This is another self-contained story and I expect the next one will be as well. I was mildly concerned with the second book, though given what Bennet has done with this one and what he says in the author's note, I feel confident that the series is on a good and stable path from here on out.Rating: 5/5
>>25442275I wouldn't read either.
i mentally paralyzed myself by criticizing empire of grass...
>>25442284>Rating: 5/5
>>25442284your """reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25442284I usually like your reviews, but maybe the first time I think your review must be missing something. If this is the tainted cup series I think it is. Based on the goodreads reviews I've read of it (and reviews I've read of one of this authors past series) he's a garbage writer, and the books are also for garbage retards, who want strictly exactly what they want, and nothing else.
Threadly reminder to report and ignore newfag spammers like >>25442328 who purposely make off-topic inflammatory posts in bad faith and has done so for four years running.>>21323327
>>25442346goddammit i misfired >>25442325
>>25442284How much gay shit is there compared to the previous books? I like this series. But I really hate authors who exclusively write fags. I think they're weird
>>25442328> I read all the negative reviews of this author and have come to the conclusion that he is badYou must be miserable
when does fellowship of the ring get good
>>25442387>he thinks the negative reviews were the problem
>>25442394when youre older than 12 years old but younger than 23 years old
I'm about a quarter into the Curse of challion... when does something happen? I quite like the prose but it seems like pages upon pages pas and not a single real development happens in the plot.Are the rest of the books by Bujold like this?
Of all of Tollers' unfinished stories, I wish he'd finished The Fall of Gondolin the most. Or at least that he'd continued to work on it, and leave it it in a somewhat compilable state, like the Children of Húrin.
Vermis is weird. I got it for the designs but some parts are fully ripped off from dark souls.
>>25442398Lies, I read it at first when I was 26 and it was top kino.
is it a meme or actually good?
>>25442533You might simply have been developmentally slowed at some point.
>>25442398heh I read the trilogy when I was 11 and never looked back
>>25442546It's fun, some really interesting ideas. Make sure you read the second edition if you aren't very familiar with the SCP Foundation, things might seem too weird otherwise.
>>25442383>As for Din's amorous pursuits, there's a single guy who holds his interest this time. Din may be incapable of not becoming involved with anyone who shows reciprocal interest. That seems like something that'll eventually get him into a lot of trouble. There isn't any sex on page, though there are a few descriptions of affection and being in bed afterwards. In the 2nd book he was with women, so he's bisexual. He may be homoromantic though.>>25442328You're free to have to have that opinion, but considering everything else you've posted, it's difficult for me to care. Even if I'm wrong about who you are, the sentiment remains the same.>>25442324You're in luck. I went even further with the comment I posted afterwards. Enjoy.A Trade of Blood was the reason I began requesting books from Netgalley again. I didn't want to wait any longer to read it and you don't have to. I'm glad that I did because this is the best novel published in 2026 that I've read.As of August 3rd, the books is at 836 ratings and 692 reviews with a 4.64 average rating. That's amazing and yet I understand why, as I've given it 5 stars. The score will go down, though I expect not by all that much.The Tainted Cup won the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 2025. It was the obvious choice of the nominees to win and it did. A Drop of Corruption is a nominee for Best Novel for 2026. Again, I believe it's the obvious choice. Next year in 2027, A Trade of Blood will be a nominee, and yet again it will surely be the obvious choice. That'd tie Bennett with Jemisin for the most consecutive wins for Best Novel. Might he even go for 4?>25442325Thank you all the (you)s over the years.
>>25442220>>25442284 yev>>25442322 pagespammer>>25442325 youreviewsareshitfagAlready at 3/5 confirmed and the other two probably already.
>>25442622>You're free to have to have that opinion, but considering everything else you've posted, it's difficult for me to care.I'm not asking you to care. No amount of you caring will have any affect on the truth. I expressed it because irs true and you can't refute it. Your presence and review isn't significant enough to affect that.
>>25442632>pagespammerAKA botlover
didn't realize yev had such shit taste
Finished reading the Farseer trilogy last night and I really enjoyed it.
>>25442635>Your presence and review isn't significant enough to affect that.I completely agree and that matters not at all.>>25442640One rotten apple ruins the bunch, eh?
>>25442642Well, what are you waiting for? Read the rest of the saga!
>>25442645I definitely will in the future, but after reading all three books back-to-back it's probably a good idea to read some other stuff for a while.
>>25442220SPBP. Behead all schizos.
Anybody here ever read The Vang series?
>>25442644>One rotten apple ruins the bunch, eh?It be like that sometimes atleast you actually read stuff
>>25442677I do. I have a backlog of books to post here since I'm only doing one per thread. 4 currently, but that'd grow if I kept up my current reading pace. I plan to be playing a game soon, so I won't be.
Pagetranny sure did fuck off. Perhaps we finally broke xirs spirit.
>>25442691He's posted multiple times in this thread.
>>25442696No he hasn't???
For any french reader here, I have finished Le Conte de l'Assassin from the series Le Chevalier Aux Epines (The Assassin's Tale from The Knight of the Thorns).Pretty mitigated feeling. Writing-wise there's no discussion that Jaworski is perhaps the best french author when it comes to writing the internal monologue of a complete and utter bastard. 75% of the book's enjoyment comes from simply listening to what Don Benvenuto has to say (if you haven't read the book, basically take a political novel set in a land of old-fashioned knight and serfs and drop a cold-hearted cynical faux-italian hitman in it) about his circumstances and the people around him. It's very rare to see a story about a criminal that doesn't end up romantizing crime itself or making the MC some kind of Robin Hood figure or, on a completely opposite direction, a martyr to the common morality of mankind. None of that shit here, this is a truly machavellian work of fiction.Having said all that, it's a damn fucking shame that half the bloody book (and it's a decently sized brick by itself) is a flashback from another perspective to the event of the first book. The simple fact is that you learn very little of value and the real meat of the story only starts to happen 60% through the thing. Since Benvenuto is not privy to a lot of what's happening behind the scene a lot of what's going on goes over his head. It's also very unclear (and I'm not completely sure that's by design) what exactly he intends to do at the very end.Overall I will of course pick up the sequel,because that's some good shit either way, but the rythm problem really tempered my enthusiasm. It felt like Jaworski tried to recreate Gagner la Guerre with half the meat and no sauce on top (though a few scenes worked really well, the glutton's ring in particular worked for me)
>>25442697Yes, he has. Just not the usual full length posts.
>>25442701>mitigatedDid you mean conflicted, ambivalent, mixed, or similar?
>>25442709Probably that yes
Has anybody here heard of the niche self-published author Brandon Sanderson?
>>25442744No, i haven't. Must be terrible to share a name with one of the most popular authors of all time.
>>25442744No idea who that is but he sounds like a fatass psued slop-pusher with the face of a Downie.
>>25442546It's a 5/10. A very overhyped book by people who don't read.And yes, if you want to read it you should get the Penguin edition, because at least this version went through an editor, leading to several chapters being streamlined/modified.qntm is a pantser, but not a very good one. Therefore, the book is rather disappointing. The main concept is good if derivative, but it doesn't live up to its premise.Some plot points will seem more important than they should and will be resolved in a wet fart.There's a specific part of the story that deserved to be developed a lot more but wasn't.The ending is "power of love"-tier.It could have been a whole lot better, but you know, it's fine. It's... meh.
>>25442753very relatable to most posters on this board desu
>>25442753That sounds like a personal vendetta against an obscure author.
It's okay I guess, 6/10
>>25442446I don't recall exactly where 25% is in the book but a ton happens in this book. Are they at the capital yet?
>>25442328It's fine not to like a book or author for whatever reason, but you've arrived at some extremely strong conclusions with effectively no information. That's bizarre.It's Nero Wolfe through the lens of fantasy and has a really great settingI only read the first one but really liked it. Definitely not garbage writing, and it does something very different from other contemporary fantasy so I have no clue what you're trying to say with that last bit. I guess it's an idea that *feels* like it should be an obvious match, but to my knowledge there's very, very little that mixes mystery and fantasy, let alone the style you get from Nero or Holmes.>>25442383I think there's maybe 4 total sentences that even hint at gay shit. You really need thicker skin, anon.
>>25442325>>25442284your reviews are GREATFUCK YEAH
>>25442869You're a 4channer ofc you wouldn't understand this book
>>25443103>you
I have been rereading Warbreaker :)
>>25443019>It's fine not to like a book or author for whatever reason, but you've arrived at some extremely strong conclusions with effectively no information. That's bizarre.If you knew what I read, and didn't have the proclivities for the type of generic garbage anime fans do, you'd understand. Everything has its trope. By "trope" I mean, the desire to fulfill some preconceived notion of something, thats familiar and intuitive first and foremost, over crafting a natural and organic world/set of characters. The problem with tropes for me ultimately can be reduced to the contrivance they often come with.When reviewers are writing reviews that essentially go "OMG THIS IS SO GOOD IT CONFIRMS ALL MY BIASES AND PRECONCEPTIONS" It is possibly one of the biggest red flags ever. Something meaningfully deep, will touch you no matter what, you would never allow the disservice of making it more about you, than making it an appreciation of what it has done. This is all scattershot thoughts, from a number of different media, in different mediums ive consumed, where I trusted consensus, and reviews far more, before I was burned by wasting my time effort and money. The safest take is to never trust reviews at all, to never allow them to sway you either way, towards, or away from the art. The take I prefer, is a critical take, because it demands more. If I come in, with a set of suspicions, that means the way this art has to be communicated to me, has to be in such a unique and distinctive way, that it expresses something about it, that my suspicions didnt consider. Therefore my pre-experience judgements act as a sort of filter to make sure that even if its ultimately disappointing anyway because people are stupid and retarded and poor at articulating anything about the things the value of their experiences, at the very least I did my due dilligence to not be tricked.
>>25443154what the fuck
>>25443118Whoa! The self-published novel Warbreaker by author Brandon Sanderson?
Defenestrate pagespammer
>>25442284I have never really gotten the immense hype behind this author. Back in 2014 when City of Stairs released one of the reviewers on that site heralded as like the next big series, that review is still up. It was…just okay. I suspect I’d receive this series similarly.
This book is incredible. Such beautiful writing.
>>25443168It's only to be expected from pagespammer.
>>25443195I didn't like or finish the first books of his other series. That may well be the case for you.
OOOOOOHHHHH, LOOK OUT GUYS! Pagespambitchpigger knows what a TROPE is!
https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/books/dungeon-crawler-carl-matt-dinniman-and-the-rise-of-litrpglol
>>25443154I can't wait for the day you inevitably kill yourself.
>>25443195The review in question btwhttps://www.sffworld.com/2014/09/city-stairs-robert-jackson-bennett/
>>25443168>>25443230Why are people freaking out at this? What is wrong with you all?
>>25443300I'm sure he'd be happy you remembered him.
>>25443335Why not?
>>25443224>woman's world>key takeaways in the beginning >puts rebeca yarros in the same sentence with sanderson and abercrombie I'm not reading it.
>>25443342I feel like it's mean and crazymaking
>>25443344You're not meant to. It's the link itself that's funny.
>>25443347You're only saying that because it's about you.
weird random day for me to read 200 pages
>>25443335You have a very strange way of thinking. It's something that is obvious when interacting with you, but when you sit down and explain your mind in detail it really is striking.
>>25443532what's wrong with thinking differently
A gentle reminder that the following authors are banned from /sffg/>Banned AuthorsJoe AbercrombieA.A. AttanasioR. Scott BakkerC.J. CherryhGlen CookSteven EriksonR.A. LaffertyMark LawrenceGeorge R.R. MartinPatrick RothfussBrandon SandersonGene Wolfe
>>25442189Just marathoned 70 pages of A Borrowed Man, and it is very good. The two guys walking into the apartment seems out of nowhere, but the rest of it has been really enjoyable. There is a surprising directness to the writing style that I can appreciate. I haven't read much late Wolfe before, so I am wondering how it compares to some of his other late effots.
>>25443594unfortunately this author is banned from /sffg/
>>25443572Why Gene Wolfe?
>>25443596I am just going to ignore it.Something I forgot to mention, is that A Borrowed Man is very much about Gene Wolfe as an author, and there are a lot of thematic quotations from his previous works if you have read enough of him. I still haven't read a decent chunk of him, so despite identifying so many of these quotations, I wouldn't be surprised if I am missing a bunch too.
>>25443544Generally, nothing. But dysfunctional thought patterns and irrational behavior does usually indicate there's something else going on.It's just weird to see pretend autism on this websight and then see an actual very real one.
>>25443572>he didn't mention Tad Williamshell. yes.
>>25443572How can Glen Cook be banned when Soulcatcher is so darn cute?
>>25443616>It's just weird to see pretend autism on this websight and then see an actual very real one.It's not autism.
>>25442546I read this one and it sucked. Don't waste your time with qntm.
Alright things are starting to get dumb, atleast politically.This is a 12 year old girl btw, acting like an anime villain. Who inexplicably has power that not only supersedes the Queen, but also the Duke. You have to wonder at that point. Where the fuck do Simon and Miriamele actually get their power from? Wtf guarantees Saluceris' power, if random 12 year old girls from noble houses can just threaten what is effectively civil war? It just makes Simon and Miriamele's power seem incredibly superficial, resting on almost nothing but the fact that people believe them to be King and Queen. I think back to my history dive on Chinese politics. It is very very rare for noble houses alone to gain enough power to threaten the emperor, without getting the emperor on their side, or without already being involved in high positions in the court already. Usually military generals or rebel leaders who have courted the favour of the common people are the biggest threats to power.The problem here is that both the Saluceris' brother (who is dead now, which is why the 12 year old girl wants revenge) and the 12 year old girl reiterated to Miriamele that blah blah blah Nabban is ruled by the noble houses and they can do whatever they want, so the King and Queen should just fuck off.The problem here is that there is no way in hell that any noble houses should have an army that can compete whatsoever with the High Throne. And they shouldnt have the commoners on their side, because THEYRE FUCKING NOBLES. Why the fuck would commoners ever give a shit about the petty retarded immoral family fueds that nobles get up to? 90% of the time nobles are directly fucking over the commoners. Throwing money at them isnt enough, or else every rebellion in history would have been solved before it started. Atleast with America, most people are priveleged and rich, so no matter how much the superficially complain about billionaires, they will never have the balls to rebel, because theyre life is too stable, they have too much to lose. So they can tolerate getting fucked over a little bit like the bitches they are, it also helps to believe that democracy can actually change their circumstances no matter how much it fails to do so. The idea alone is strong enough But this shouldnt be the case in Medieval Europe. Anytime any part of any kingdom or country tries to break off and do their own thing....honestly I was going to say it doesnt work, but its honestly 50/50 isnt it? I mean Taiwan literally exists, North and South Korea exist, Northern Ireland exists, Ukraine exists, does Portugal count? Its not exactly unbelievable, but to make it make sense, you have to do a lot of work to build up the sociopolitical conditions of a climate.
As of now. It makes zero sense how a 12 year old girl, who has no direct or even indirect ties to the throne (which has somehow existed 30 years without actual legitimate power???) which should be the highest power. Can threaten that very throne. We dont even have a basic "You need us, we happen to conveniently fund most of your fuedal economy" contrivance that shit writers who dont underatand politics like to pull. Which maybe I should take as a good thing and trust the process?? We'll see
>>25443891>>25443892your """page reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25443693We like men here
Just finished Lightbringer. Lysander MUST die. [Spoiler] great character though [/spoiler]
>>25442189https://youtu.be/0paI-F0orcw?si=pmGHRJg-CgLV2TQwJohn Haldeman is based? I have to get his books.
>>25443817Nice cover, but lel.>7 shorts (one of them was originally "published on Twitter")>book is under 100 pages>that's under 15 pages per storyI'm a sucker for short stories but it looks like this book is a collection of elevator pitches.
>>25443224>Matt Dinniman’s wildly inventive seriesI enjoy DCC but come on, it isn't "inventive" at all.Read the first chapter of book 1 and you'll notice it basically starts like H2G2, but not as funny. And then Carl goes down the stairs, and everything becomes similar to every fucking manhwa under the sun.>He Who Fights With MonstersLeftist propaganda to the max, from what I gathered. /lit/fags like to call DCC Reddit when they should go after this shit instead.This whole fucking article was AI-generated, btw.
>>25443891>6GWhen did that happen?
>>25442761>The ending is "power of love"-tierThis is the part that really made it a flop for me. It felt like it was trying too hard to be le epic but couldn't conceptually justify it enough. Even being already familiar with the relevant SCP bullshit of idea space being a literal thing still doesn't make it less retarded. I'm also annoyed that the random aside about the statue that makes you forget how to ride a bike just didn't go anywhere when every other chapter at least felt relevant to the overarching narrative and tied in somehow. It's what it says on the box I guess and I'm not surprised that even the best of SCP trash isn't that great so 5/10 is a fair rating.
okay, I tried Dune, The Expanse and Hyperion and didn't really like any of them for various reasonswhat Space Operas are good?
>>25444097>every other chapter at least felt relevant to the overarching narrative and tied in somehowExcept the big-ass spider guy. His introduction makes it feel like he's going to be the book's big bad, but qntm clearly changed his mind halfway through, so he goes from "holy shit it's this guy" to a pointless Z plot, with a conclusion worthy of its Z rank.
>>25444106I just interpreted him as the big bad invading in many forms. The book is all over the place so I can excuse that since it's at least tonally consistent and not just wasting my time with a shitpost.
>>25444099Maybe you just don't like the concept of space operas.
>>25444157I have high standards
>>25443891This is like a mental autoimmune disorder.
>>25442546Felt like he wrote 33% of a novel, stitched in two and a half short stories and called it good.
>>25444158Maybe too high for genre fiction. Alas for you.
>>25443196Titus Alone, though... Even if it had been finished it'd feel irrelevant.
>Google Search>AI Overview >Direct & Immediate Answer >yevolem is an online user handle best known for writing detailed, analytical, and extensive book reviews on Goodreads, covering speculative fiction, sci-fi, and fantasy. >Review Style: Known for long-form, highly critical, and deeply philosophical breakdowns of narrative structures, world-building, and thematic elements in science fiction and fantasy novels.>Reviewed Works: Frequently reviews complex genre fictionThis is why AI can't be trusted.
>>25442398this may well be trueim reading it at 32 and its boring as hell
Ask Claude (or any other pleb AI) what are it's personal top 5 epic fantasy series of all time and post the results here. Go.
My friends. I finished my reread of Warbreaker.
>>25443572Why is the unknown self-published author A.A. Attanasio banned?
>>25444335https://warosu.org/lit/image/z5rBa1729E5heGlYqUiOqw
>>25444346This does not answer my question.
>>25444359Books that are regulary posted only as images for a long duration upset some anons. A lot does in general though.
>>25444368It's not my fault that this thread only reads megapopular authors and refuses to touch obscure self-published writers like Attanasio.
>>25444382No, but it is your fault for constantly posting various book images and the same posts about every thread for years.
self-published writers are all garbage, no exceptions
>>25444418What about authors who lived before publishers existed?
>>25444414It's my fault for... posting books I've read in the book discussion thread? I can't make people give up their favorite form of mediocrity for something evocative and actually give a little self-published guy a chance.
>>25443891>>25443892your """page reviews""" are GOLDFUCK ON
>>25444418Are you sure about that one? Despite being an unknown self-published author, Attanasio competed directly with the normalfag fan favorite Gene Wolfe for a Nebula in the early 80s. Don't bash the little guys!
>>25444420Posting images isn't without text isn't discussion.
>>25444424I hate Gene Wolfe
>>25444382kys baynefag
>>25444427So do I! Try Attanasio today! I guarantee you'll enjoy him or I'll refund your time from my own lifespan!
>>25444427WHOOOOOOOOOAH, BUDDY! You are going to make a lot of average mundane representatives of humankind upset with that statement.
>>25444430Radix? Or some other book you would recommend?
>>25443891Should have just read the first 3 books instead of skipping to books 4 and 5 like a dumbass. No shit you're lost.You'll jump through a dozen hoops to satisfy the compulsions of your distorted brain, but then you go and miss something as obvious as that.
>>25444496You don't have to read the tetrad in order, or all of them. If you want a short starting place, check out In Other Worlds. It's about a dude from Earth who gets godlike powers from an nth dimensional entity at the end of time, in exchange for helping the entity find biofuel (fucktons of literal tons of pig manure) and involves some of the sickest most vile creatures I've concepted.
>>25444158
>>25443817My only magazine published sci-fi short story is 1080 words.
>>25444069It would suck to get a shit review for your book on amazon due to manufacture quality.
>>25444550you're a hack
>>25444553post book
>>25444418u jelly
>>25444217Apparently Peake was going to write an entire collection of Groan books (more than 30). That man’s mind must’ve been a marvel of mellifluous machinations.
>>25444550>short story is 1080 wordsYou managed to sell them a summary. Nice.
>>25444578>more than 30He'd have been the British James Branch Cabell.
Gormenghast sucks, it's just purple prose without direction or purpose
Is West of Eden by Harry Harrison a good read? Looking for prehistoric/paleolithic era SFF recs.
>>25444655There's some caveman action going on in this scifi series I've recently read
>>2544389112 year old girl you say?
>>25444585>shorter therefore bad
>>25444553>>25444555This is the perfect anti-crab response.The real hacks are the people who don't write.
>>25444687you're a hack
>>25444687post book
Where Red God?
>>25444251kek
>>25444326I can't imagine rereading a 1000 page book instead of just reading something new
>>25444427Gene Wolfe is based. His "diehard" fans are cringe and gay.
>>25444585holy kek
>>25444520So you're telling me the 12 year old girl in a story that is explicitly 30 years after the end of the preceding trilogy, is explained, in that trilogy? Also every MST fan (mostly reddit) I've done research on has said that the prior trilogy isnt actually particularly political, so I heavily doubt, there would be political explanations for how a 12 year old from a noble family has enough power to threaten the high throne.I don't mind spoilers. In a way reading the sequel trilogy (which the author said himself can be read without reading the original trilogy) is already technically "spoiling" oneself (I don't see it like that) about aspects of the past trilogy. So it doesn't matter. If you can produce information from the original trilogy that explains the page I posted then ill admit I was wrong to not read it till after the sequel trilogy.
>>25444663I remember reading Broken God and how positive my impressions were in the beginning. Does it get better in the 2nd book?
>>25444760>So you're telling me the 12 year old girl in a story that is explicitly 30 years after the end of the preceding trilogy, is explained, in that trilogy?Yes. It's explained. Not our problem you missed it.
>>25444765This is a troll right?
>>25444763I really like the 2nd book, which is more of a picaresque adventure Finishing up the 3rd book now, it's a bit slow, maybe it dwells too long on the same things to make sure the points are thoroughly made, a bit booringer IMO
>>25444788Maybe my instincts were on point...and everybody who ever doubted and hated on me is a fraud and disingenuous
>>25444785No.
>>25444794But theres no proof of anything you said, and the author himself said the original trilogy is not a prerequisite. You are retarded and caught in a logical trap you don't want to answer too, because you are a subretard troll, who thinks he can say something that doesn't make sense without having to own it and prove it.
I'm reading Princess of Mars and I'm in awe of much of a hack Burroughs is, you can tell he was self-aware about it too.
Sooo.... nobody here has ever read The Vang books?
>>25444860Plan to read them this year, but have not made it to them yet. Sorry Anon.
>>25444874How? They've been out of print for 30+ years.
>>25444888I have second hand copies of the paperbacks and epubs as well.
pagespammer killed the thread again we've got people talking about The Vang now
>>25444915>NOOOOOOO, DON'T DISCUSS SCIENCE FICTION IN THE SCIENCE FICTION THREAD, NOOOOO!!!You've been mentally raped.
>>25444916that's what they say to defend pagespammer...
>>25444916You'll be once you read that slop.
>>25444927Explain why.
>>25444915https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22the+vang%22Not many hits for that particular series.
it's good
Is there a secret repository of pulp magazine scans? There's a story I want to read but I can't find it anywhere
>>25444974The Internet Archive should have it, at least if it's in the public domain. What story is it?
>>25444974Depends on the magazine. If it's something extremely obscure, probably not. There are a lot of magazine archives.
>>25444974You don't have to find the original source if it's also elsewhere. Have you tried using isfdb to see where else it may be?
>>25444860Seems not. Doesn't have many ratings either.https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=1915108
>>25444729Google "Ender's Game"
>>25445064Stop reading YA shit.
>>25442284My copy has still not arrived yet I'm too frugal to buy the digital version as well. Still, I can't wait to read it.>>25442328>he's a garbage writer, and the books are also for garbage retards, who want strictly exactly what they want, and nothing else.What does this even mean? Do you read books you don't want to read just because they are supposed to be good? I suffered through many overrated fantasy series over the years (Malazan, Stormlight, First Law) and it was never worth it.
>>25445048Yep.>>25444981The Forest Reaper by William Eldridge, isfdb says it was only printed in All-Story in 1911 in serial form
>>25445075What was disappointing about First Law?
>>25445075>Do you read books you don't want to read just because they are supposed to be good? Yes, he does. He's said several times that he often reads based on hype alone or what some popular booktuber told him to read.
>>25445067*writing
>>25445114That as well, yes.
>>25445093>What was disappointing about First Law?It was hyped up to me by a friend who described the graphic and skirmish scenes written by Abercrombie in great detail to me, that should have probably been my first hint. It's not like the books are bad, far from it, it's just that I didn't warm up to almost none of the characters in the three books I've read and I don't really care much for such scenes at all. In the end they just felt lacking I guess.
>>25445084>The Forest Reaper by William Eldridge, isfdb says it was only printed in All-Story in 1911 in serial formI'm afraid no one has scanned those issues yet. I can't find them in my secret repository.
>>25444760Literally yes.Nabban was the Roman Empire. They were forced to bend the knee but managed to hold on to a considerable amount of autonomy thanks to their culture, history, and most importantly being where the seat of power for Aedonites is held. Also the way the kingdom is structured is that all the vassals hold the actual military power, which is how it worked in medieval europe too btw.This is all explored at length in the first three books. The previous high king let the unified nation fall apart and Nabban used this as a chance to gobble up even more power and independence. Further, the ruling family of Nabban, Benidrivis, which Turia married into, is full of backstabbers who frequently kill each other to get ahead. It's their culture, again echoing Rome. Again this is explored at length in the first books, including a very pivotal scene that happens to Varellan's father that this plot beat is referencing.Simon has attempted to fix things, but we're seeing how tenuous that control really is, and what exactly the purpose high king serves. Now take a biiiiiig sip of water and take a glance what the sequel trilogy is called. You getting it yet?>>25444800>the author himself said the original trilogy is not a prerequisiteSo you get your panties twisted over being influenced by the wrong types of reviews, but you fall for blatant marketing speak? That's really sad.You don't *need* to read anything to enjoy a book. But if your goal is a deep understanding of the lore and motivations and themes of a setting then obviously you should read the stuff that came out first that this is a direct continuation of. How is that even in question?
>>25445149despite its good reputation there is very little catalogued of osten ard lore online. pagespammer relies on LLMs to understand books so he's probably only getting high level stuff and isn't getting spoonfed like he wants.
>>25445141Well darn, thanks for looking anyway
>>25445084Doesn't seem so.https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/serial?id=allstory1905
>>25444760>reading the sequel series to MST>hasn't read MST yet
>>25445227Has there ever been sauce for this image? There's no way it's not a scene from a porno... right?
>>25444674You are putting words in my mouth.I invite you to follow this Plebbit link (archived) and discover one of my favorite short stories, which is only 662 words long: https://archive.is/gnHKMIt's good shit, lads. Don't read the OP, it will be funnier this way.
>>25445293 (Me)Here's an edited version of the OP that works as a synopsis:>Centuries ago, their kind waged a war of extermination on your race, mercilessly executing every male, female, and child. They thought they had succeeded when they declared your kind extinct. They were wrong...
>>25444760>SPOONFEED MENo. Kill yourself.
I'm reading "The King of Elfland's Daughter," a classic I somehow missed. His influence on J.R.R. Tolkein is obvious.It's in the public domain, you so you can get it free and legal here: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/61077
I was worried it would be another overrated and poorly written sci-fi "classic" but it's actually really good, I will read the sequels
>>25445084If you've got a spare 1.5K lying around there are a couple of issues from 1911 for sale on Ebay.
>>25445263That's Sara Lima, a host for Comic Vine that left in 2013. Not porn.
>>25445341I will never forgive her
>>25445351It's an AI face swap btw.
>>25445336Funny I had the opposite reaction, was excited to read it for the first time and came away very disappointed. Heard the sequels are better, but probably won't be visiting those anytime soon.
>>25445149You don't actually understand what you're talking about, or what I'm criticizing. So I will not waste the time of effort in decomstructing something that doesn't understand that its not saying anything. Instead I post this. See, you don't actually understand the implications of the claims you make, because you don't actually understand history, what you know, is what the average retarded normie "knows" which is "events". History isnt merely a collection of events, its events ordered in a sense and manner through analysis that explains and gives context to developments and socioeconomic conditions. Atleast it should be, and in theory is.If you can't answer the circled question your response means nothing. Every single story ever is "internally consistent" referring to itself doesnt address or answer a purported problem of writing.
>>25445149Also youre not even self aware of the contradictions you laid bare "Its like rome, but actually it totally still had vassals like medieval europe" fucking incoherent babble retard.
>>25445367That doesn't exist. Most of history was just making stuff up for various reason. Trying to accurately record current events is relatively new.
>>25445367Bro believes that psychohistory is real and has always existed.
>>25445341Grim.
>>25445381>>25445362I did a search on it and it came up in archived.moe in a gif porn thread on /r/ and was said to be a face swap, to be clear. So, really, you only have some random anon to blame who made it.
>>25445367wow, anon.
>>25445293you're a hack
>>25445334>gutenberg.orgThat's so passé, gramps.https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/lord-dunsany/the-king-of-elflands-daughterNot but really, StandardEbooks take books from Project Gutenberg and fix shit that needs fixing.
>>25445362>>25445388It's not an AI face swap. It's a regular couch panel broadcast and the GIF cuts off before the start of her strapless dress.
>>25445398That's what Big Truth wants you to believe. Don't believe their "Facts".
>>25445398>her strapless dressWe can see a bit of it. It's white.
>>25445367>You don't actually understand what you're talking about
>>25445374I don't disagree, but science also used to be alchemy to some degree, I see no reason why the standard of "history should accurately account for and/or explain the conditions that led to certain developments and events" can't simply be what modern history is. We have a greater capacity for critical thought than retards of the past, both because we have more resources, and because we can learn from the mistakes of thinking in the past.I'm doing some history reading right now to prove all the anons who called me dumb wrong.
I'm halfway through Wheel of Time and struggling to continue. The writing in scenes with Perrin and Faile makes me cringe. Does it get better? Should I stick with it? I can't believe I have 7 books left if I want to finish this thing.
A friend (of the female variety) just told me that Carl (from the little-known series Dungeon Crawler Carl) reminded her of me.Smell you later, virgins.
>>25445369That's because Osten Ard is an amalgamation of many different real world cultures. It's not actually real life, hopefully you know that already.The high king position takes most of its cues from medieval Britain, and more specifically how the monarchy is depicted in Arthurian legend. After all, it was the literal Prester John that was the first high king of Osten Ard; that's why there are so many people with biblical names.I may be able to get you up to speed for a modest fee, if that's something you're interested in.
>>25445425>The writing in scenes with Perrin and Faile makes me cringeThis were the worst parts for me as well. So much so, that I had to speed read through these chapters where Perrin is shouting for Faile over and over again.It was worth it in the end but I think you could have cut 20% of the content and it still would have worked, maybe even better
>>25445428She called you a fucking loser
>>25445425No, absolutely not. I think WoT is kino but there is nothing up ahead that'll change your mind if you don't agree. In fact you're entering the slog period where even superfans have trouble getting through.
>>25445428she thinks you're a confirmed virgin wearing ill chosen garments and your only friend is an annoying cat you hatesorry, anon......
>>25445444I can't let you say that, anon. Carl loves Donut.
I don't know what it is about medieval history, but I cant actually find any answer for what the fuck the point of a king was, if nobles could just tell them to fuck off. I also can't get an explanation for why pesants just let nobles do whatever the fuck they wanted to them other than "The church told people that they deserve their subhuman life on earth and the nobles deserve to be above them" at a certain point it just gets ridiculous and starts to seem like Medieval Europe made zero sense whatsoever. Clearly somethings missing. Either that or Google Search is just genuine garbage. I can't verify any of these sources either except for one BBC article which is the one source that has actually explained how they know anything about Medieval society, but it also has the most shallow explanation, and nothing before King William (the norman that conquered england)
>>25445451Fuck off and die.
>>25445451oh my god
>>25445451I don't know what it is about contemporary history, but I cant actually find any answer for what the fuck the point of a president was, if the wealthy could just tell them to fuck off. I also can't get an explanation for why the poor just let the wealthy do whatever the fuck they wanted to them other than "The politicians/media/corporations/etc told people that they deserve their subhuman life on earth and the wealthy deserve to be above them" at a certain point it just gets ridiculous and starts to seem like the current date made zero sense whatsoever.
>>25445451How many books have you read in the last year that have heavily featured medieval politics? And yet you don't understand this most basic of facets?That's really remarkable. It's like someone reading nothing but space books and not understanding gravity. No wonder you come across as confused and lost.
>>25445463>the current date made zero sense whatsoeverWell... I mean...
>>25445451"Oh my god!" gasped Donut.
>leave for two weeks>come back>pagespammer still here
Sigh. This is the only thing I can trust claude on. If not for how garbage his critical thinking skills are. I'd just ask him to explain this history straight up. But I don't trust him. So this is the most I can get out of him: Confirming my suspicions about some of the sources I've encountered.
>>25445478that's a lot of em dashes. perhaps you have em dash poisoning. something to consider.
>>25445463The President Quite literally directly controls the military, can install supreme court judges, can higher DOJ and FBI leaders, can pardon criminals, can cut funding, and if there's anything trump has taught us, he can basically get away with almost anything. President exists to do what the people want, and other institutions exist to make sure what he wants to do is legal, that doesnt mean he has no power, infact wealthy people were practically giving him gifts at the coronation or whatever. The medieval relationship between the king and wealthy im talking about is practically the inverse.
>>25445486Yeah, my Claude very rarely uses em dashes. I bet pagespammer enabled that option that allows Claude to share data between chats or something. That really mindfucks him.
>>25445468Explain the point of Kings then if the nobles can just tell them to fuck off, and they also conveniently control any capacity to generate a military, and also explain how the nobles have the support of the commoners when they fuck them over under the feudal system
4 years of school to become a secondary ed history teacher, the latter years spent student teaching and working on your bitch of a practicum. Then it's another 4 years of subbing, maybe you get lucky and a long term position transitions into a real job when they stay on maternity leave forever. More likely you're almost 30 before you're under contract.All this to work at a job that sucks, teaching kids that hate you, for pay that is shit.But then you reach the medieval curriculum. Finally a glimmer of hope. Kids actually want to learn this stuff, they love knights and kings and nobility, and they pick it up so easily. These next 6 weeks will be only good ones of the entire year.and then you see that sepia-stained face enter your classroom and you know, deep down, it's over before it even began
There's nothing like ganging up on a retard, desu.I feel like it really helps us bond, you know?
>>25445476bakkerfag is a 10 year old plague
>>25445429>I may be able to get you up to speed for a modest fee, if that's something you're interested in.Let me test the Free Trial
>>25445523>>>/his/
>>25445497How do I fix the Claude emdash problem? Is that really why hes so bad at admitting hes wrong even though he will acknowledge your criticism as if hes incorporating it
>>25445526I've tried /his/ before, they take forever to reply and even when they do, they suck. They couldn’t solve the 5 go32od emperors problem, they just repeated stuff I got from wikepedia
>>25445527>>>/reddit/>>25445516Indeed it does.saved btw
>>25445510>and then you see that sepia-stained face enter your classroom and you know, deep down, it's over before it even beganyou think pagespammer would speak up in class? he's probably one of those pussies insecure about asking questions for fear of seeming like they're slow to pick up on stuff
finally found a good source, its a full book though, which is both a good thing and bad thing. good because it probably has sufficient depthbad because it means i wont get a quick answer
>>25445441I think I'll take another break and decide in the future. It's just so fucking long..
Reading some Vance. Emphyrio was alright, not impressive but still fun. Now finishing up The Big Planet before moving onto The Blue World.What's your favourite Vance works I should check out? I've read a good chunk of Dying Earth already. I really liked the Cugel stuff.
>>25445640I remember liking Lyonesse but it's been like 20 years since I read it
>>25444960Be sure to read We Have Always Lived in the Castle.
>>25445640Araminta Station is great, but the sequels are not.
Hi /sffg/I'm just a humble crossposter from /k/It's August 4th, 2026Be sure to read Ray Bradbury's "There will come soft rains" as featured in "The Martian Chronicles" tonight. Short story about a nuclear post apocalypse.Hell, here's a free link to it:https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf
>>25445336>>25445366The sequels were woefully disappointing to me personally. I really enjoyed neuromancer but the sequels delve into Voodoo and the concept of the digitization of gods as AI. They were... Not good. Just my opinion
>>25445865I prefer A Sound of Thunderhttps://www.astro.sunysb.edu/fwalter/AST389/ASoundofThunder.pdf[Spoiler]Bizarre Fun Fact: This story predates the coining of the term "The Butterfly Effect" and supposedly was not the source or inspiration for the term[/Spoiler]
>>25445880I mostly referred to Soft Rains since the story takes place on August 4th of 2026
>>25445865>Martian Chronicles BASED>There Will Come Soft RainsB A S E DASED
She learned about sex from an Earth-man.
>>25445640Araminta Station is fun. The protagonist is a space cop trying to stop globalists from importing illegal immigrants to take over his home planet.
>>25445880Oh I'm glad you shared that one. I recall reading it a while ago and enjoyed it as well! Time Traveler's Almanac is the best and most comprehensive collection of time related short stories. Really excellent compilation from the Vandermeers
Any fantasy books that feature pudgy blonde women with big bums?
>>25445865Thanks for posting that. Read The Martian Chronicles decades ago as a child and There will come soft rains has inspired me to re-read it now.
ROGGAS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this quartent before. There could be roggas anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his exposed skin. "I HATE ROGGAS" he thought. Seismic tremors reverberated his entire body, making it pulsate even as the safe circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of non-humans. "With a comm, you can survive anything" he said to himself, out loud.
>>25446173LTG...
Okay so I'm reading Disquiet Gods and Ruocchio finally jumped the shark.The Watchers are fallen angels, The Quiet is the Biblical GodHe fooled me into reading thousands of pages only to slap me in the face with an Aslan the Jesus Lion Haha, boy do I feel silly now
>>25446124your malazan book of the fallen, bro?
>>25442284>look up new releases to see if they're available for download>fucking AUDIOBOOKS release before e-book formatsIs this the state of modern readership? Listeners outnumber us?
>>25446305supply and demand. some of the people with audible are willing to share.
>>25446305brother you do NOT know how bad it fucking is. Most literate population in history and yet they cannot read.
>>25445929>cop trying to stop globalists from importing illegal immigrants to take over his homeTo the blOcklist!>>25445932>>25445865Nice toys, anon.
>>25446382They are my man child funkopops
Has anyone read pic related?I started it recently but I'm struggling to get through it. It started strong but really ground to a halt around the second part.Considering dropping it, wondering if its worth pushing through. I'm also wondering if it is even worth reading in translation, it seems like a book that was written very specifically with the polish language in mind.
>>25446239>any fictional world that has a creator is CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA>I also can't read a make-believe world that has a make-believe godReddit-tier take. I enjoyed the books all the way to the end, and I am a massive atheist.
>>25446239First time reading books were the author strokes out and goes from being an atheist to a Roman Catholic midway during the series? It's the Golden Ocumeme all over again!
I have been monitoring the last few threads the level of discourse is shockingly bad. Why?
>>25445873glad I'm not the only oneNeuromancer is gold but I just can't stand the others, and I'm not sure why
>>25446559>a book that was written very specifically with the polish language in mind.Polish book was written in polish, yeah, no shit? Blame the translator, not the author.
>>25446602Well for various reasons it seems like a book that would be difficult to translate. I don't think the translator specifically did a bad job.I'm just wondering if the plot picks up at all or if I should just put it down if I'm not enjoying it by 300 pages
>>25446576How many times will we have to tell you to kill yourself?
>>25446579The sequels introduced a few novel concepts of life in Gibson's Sprawl world and some things were actually quite interesting, such as the exotic designer drugs and manipulation of human memory as a form of legal punishment, but the world building was lackluster and the actions of the characters felt less meaningful in comparison to the first book. I was not a fan of the inclusion of the Loa in the books at all. I think Gibson had an interest in "emergent" religious practices that were edgy and in vogue during the 80s for Westerners and he wanted to try to include them in his novels which is why we got Space Rastafari in the first book as well. It just did not seem to carry a lasting sense of weight or importance into our contemporary time frame. I would go so far as to argue that it likely did not seem so exotic or foreign of a concept even when written during the 80s and 90s. The idea of humans recreating new vehicles for their gods in the form or AI was not really a new idea by the time Gibson was putting pen to paper for these books
>>25446636You see? This is a prime example of what I am referring to. I can close my eyes and already picture the poster. Sweaty, obese, stinky. His fingers tremble with excitement as he fires off another infantile response. Should someone like that be allowed a voice? What does it add?
>>25446683>waaaah only MY posts are good>these threads are so dead without me and my genius!
>>25446561>any fictional world that has a creator is CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDANo but this one is LITERALLY the Christian God. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH he asks Hadrian, just so there's no question about it whatsoever.
>>25446579You wanted Matrix slop.
Where are The Doors of Ston?I read the first two books in 2018 and liked them, despite the cringey parts of book 2. Back then I used to think Doors will come out maybe in 2022, or some far away year like 2024. Now in 2026, after a forever and a half, I came back to Western fantasy books, looked around and still no Doors. So what is the latest scoop on Rothfuss?
>>25446727https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdACz7fG_ak
>>25446727Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately this author is banned from /sffg/
>>25446576It's been bad for years and it only grows worse and worse. Newfags visit to stifle and outright prevent discussion, like that guy who only communicates through usage of his favorite buzzwords and believes Brandon Sanderson is a self-published author.
>>25446239>>25446566Weird how the average person knows when Christians are doing it (except when Tolkien does it, see Letter 131) while being so divorced from mormon theology they don't notice how blatantly on-the-nose Sanderson gets.>characters literally ascending to godhood>"only trust what is written in steel">Vorinism rewrote all of their texts and the true religion was lostI'm probably missing other aspects in the story.
>>25446727https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYdn779tqpo
Hey guys, is it okay if I shill my fantasy novel here once it's finished? (It'll never be finished)
>>25446566>It's the Golden Ocumeme all over again!fuark...i was thinking about reading that series too.>>25446239I just don't know how somebody doesnt see it coming, there are so many red flags that are typical of christian retardation and understanding of metaphysics and philosophy even ignoring the fundamentally bad writing. Really you deserve it for sticking so long.
>>25446822yea why not
>>25446822It's against the rules to advertise but you could make hate-filled screeds against your own work, posting page after page and breaking down what's wrong with them in excruciating detail so that people become morbidly curious and pick it up
>>25446869>posting page after page and breaking downOnly autistic homosexuals do this.
>>25446822Post it in /wng/.
>>25446305If audiobooks would automatically include the epub we wouldn't have this problem.
>>25446720not reallyif anything I wanted something more like Shadowrun>>25446677what's your analysis of Neuromancer?
>>25446893>>25446869who are we talking about here?
I plan there to be a Book (or a selection of chapters) in my story where Aidan (the protagonist) is unconscious and at the risk of death.The hero-boy (can elaborate), whose name is Lukas, will visit a garden of roses which Aidan will state earlier in the story that its his favorite place to visit.I wrote this imaginary excerpt of how I envision the scene to be:>He arrived at the spacious garden of roses and stopped at once, for the wind moved them without mercy, and the orange sky spread its color over the red. When he saw how the roses covered the whole field, and how empty that field otherwise was, his eyes widened; and at the end of it, or as far as he could see, stood a single gravestone, since the garden's favorite visitor could come to it no more. On the stone he read plainly the name Aidan, and he saw the several other mourners who had come to this funeral, but he did not see the man's family, those who ought to have stood nearest him. At this the boy's knees gave way, and he fell at once, weeping both for the injustice and for his own folly.(keep in mind that Aidan hasn't actually died, but is just the boy's imagination since he didn't really process the whole danger).
>>25446969https://isfdb.stoecker.eu/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?6404They're still publishing fiction, interesting.
>>25446973We may never know.
>>25444496I've only read Solis, but I really enjoyed it.
>>25446995>They're still publishing fiction, interesting.it's all virtually fanfiction-tier crap now, because CGL's corrupt shenanigans made them cancer for the talented fans who used to take pity on them and write for not much more than literal love of the game. (this once included such luminaries as Victor Milan, Michael Stackpole, William H Keith and Lisa Smedman). their recent virulent wokeshit doesn't help.but in its heyday, Shadowrun was excellent cyberpunk, even before the magic aspect.
>>25447065>now
>>25447081Yes.There is a distinct drop in quality past the turn of the millennium.
GRRM, Rothfuss, Scott Lynch... why is it always fat American writers?
>>25447109Meanwhile in Canada:>Stay lean. Stay hungry. Dream of fat chicks and write like a madman.
>>25447109I think it's a cultural thing. Americans don't seem to take their commitments seriously and have a "fuck you I got mine" mentality towards everything.
>>25447114But for how long can Rothfuss and Lynch possibly coast along when they only wrote a few books each?
>>25447117Grifting along with promises that someday they'll release the next book will probably keep them comfortable for the rest of their lives.
>Book starts great, a masterpiece in the making>Prose better than 99% of modern fantasy writing>Lovable and interesting characters >Suddenly it turns into the most generic court drama ever>With the most generic villain ever>With the most uninteresting and superficial, magic system, lore and worldbuilding everSigh, it was so fucking great until they reached Gotorget. I'm 50% through now and I don't even feel motivated to keep reading anymore, it's just so boring now.
>>25447130When you say "court drama" do you mean a kingly court or a legal court?
>>25447130>GotorgetI mean Cardegoss.>>25447142Kingly court, it's GoT with better prose but 10x more generic and with worse world building and even less magic.
Reminder that your first book will not be "the start of an epic saga." It's either an instant classic or it sucks.
>>25447109>fat American writersFat people have no self control so they can't restrain themselves from making stupid decisions in their writing. GRRM and Brandon Sanderson are equally slop but since GRRM had a big show with nudity and violence in it retards who don't actually read or care about writing quality suck him off ad nauseam.
>>25447158Why not? The first book in my saga is just a lighthearted slice of life tale to introduce the characters, the next books will be the real start of the adventure and a war epic.
>The Dragonbone Chair>The Eye of the World>The Black Company>The Once and Future King>Gardens of the MoonWhich one should I start if I want an epic adventure full of magic, deep characters and romance?
>>25447176The Eye of the World.
>>25447166>the next books will be the real startOh fuck off.
>>25447130Recently read this. General agree. I enjoyed it enough to finish it, but not enough to read any subsequent books in the series.
>>25447130>female writerWhat did we tell you, man? What did we tell you?
>>25447180Every good author saves the best for the latter books, ADHD zoomer faggot.
>>25447183Another thing that shattered my motivation was that I learned Cazaril and Iselle won't even be the main characters in the sequel, they're by far the best characters.
>>25447190Why, you're telling me [author] advertises [latest work] as being better than [previous work]???Quick, to the nearest bookstore! Faggot.
>>25447166There's nothing in principle wrong with a light introduction, but I do hope you're not planning anything larger than a trilogy of 300-400 page books. Anything more than that is highly unlikely to work, and if you think you're the exception you're probably wrong just like all of the other failures. 1000 pages is huge; that's plenty of material to work with for a story of massive scale.
>>254472001000 pages is a novella for the fantasy genre, are you new to this genre?
>>25447204Oh you were trolling, gotcha. Don't mind us, then.
>>25447208You're the one trolling if you think this genre isn't filled with series that spans dozens of books each with hundreds or thousands of pages.
>>25447113I know Erikson had something of a head start with GotM because it was pitched as a movie script initially, but damn. He never took longer than two years between main Malazan books, and they're not short novels.
>>25444800Your poor reading comprehension and ongoing skill issue is not our problem.
>>25447210Yes, anon, yes. You do your thing ;-)
>>25447215I will, better than be a retarded child baiting on a general all day long, you're fucking sad, go jerk off to your cousin or whatever you teens do nowadays.
>>25447213Are those books worth it? How do they compare to the GOAT (ASoIaF)?
When I was new to Fantasy I thought Elves and Dwarves were common in most Fantasy series. My disappointment in finding out that it's actually the opposite and most authors have no creativity and use humans as the only race in their worlds was huge.
>>25447218I read like 100 pages of the first book and dropped it, definitely nothing like asoiaf in style
>>25447224I love it when people who think Tolkien is all fantasy find out that his influence isn't as much as most think.
>>25447186You have to be 18 or older to use this website
>>25447311Why would you love that? That's terrible.
>>25447164>GRRM and Brandon Sanderson are equally slopgrrm is total dogshit compared to brandy sloppo garbage factory
>>25447362No, it's liberating.
The constant glazing of Warhammer outside of /lit/ is so fucking cringe. I opened up a Warhammer book and it started out with an Inquisitor infodumping to a prisoner about his gun. It's not dark it's just stupid and poorly written. Yet it supposedly created a whole heckin genre according to 40drones.
GRRM all but wiped out Tolkienesque fantasy. I find it deeply humerous that Sanderson is now the standard bearer of that lineage.
>>25447404>GRRM all but wiped out Tolkienesque fantasyWe have yet to see anybody come close to replicating Tolkien so there wasn't anything to wipe out.
>>25446992this sounds fine
>>25447179Deep Characters? Wheel of Time? Hmm
>>25447213I think it's crazy that Erikson did most of the Malazan writing>in random bars/shops>on some random tiny THINKPAD with a screen smaller than today's cellphonesall within a decade
Pagespammer status? Has he killed himself yet?
Why is baynefag so fucking retarded? He can't even spell "humorous" correctly.
>>25447475Bakkerfag has not killed himself yet.
>>25447176>The Once and Future King Yes.
>>25447487Grim.
Are there any fantasy books that are like Baldur's Gate 3?
>>25447475haven't been reading latelyi have been mentally paralyzed by trying to rationalize thr stupidity of a king with superficial power this entire time, which the story pretended had any power or effect in not only electing somebody to rule over a vassal state, but one single threat from a 12 year old girl is enough to threaten/upend that completely. No amount of prequel explanation can make that make sense. Simon and Miriamele have been ruling for 30 years since MST. If their rule was never legitimate, it's a wonder that they did not find out, or have any major civil problems till now.Now technically theres some ways to cop out of this. Its possible the Nabban state was just conveniently and inexplicably in agreement with the high throne until now, which seems unlikely as Simon and Miriamele have been against them encroaching on Thrithings land, and this seems to be what this whole thing is about.Its also possible that real people who rule Nabban were simply letting the highthrone think they have any power, but the entire time they didnt. This is tricky though. The Duke is officially the ruler of Nabban, to pull a trick where youre controlling power from the shadows you'd need to control the duke or his closest advisors with that somehow never getting out. Unlikely, without extreme contrivance.But even considering those cop outs. It makes no sense how the nobles got the commoners theyre fucking over to support them.Planning on doing some research on Louis VI to remedy this.
>>25447453Yeah well Stephenie Meyer mostly wrote Twilight on a BlackBerry, so...
>>25447176The Once and Future King and The Dragonbone Chair I guess
>>25447507Dragonbone Chair seems really interesting, if you had to compare it to a pop movie which one would it be?
>>25447366>t. illiterate retard
>>25447498Knock yourself out: https://www.goodreads.com/genres/lgbt
George R.R. Martin's work is a massive, steaming pile of fucking shit and I'll never understand how he got popular at all.
>>25447512Hahah really funny, my fellow Trumpster. Fuck off, I'm serious.
>>25447520>I'm serious.That makes two of us.
>>25447498You're in luck. Most modern books prioritize the (gay) romance over any actual plot.
>>25447518what are your favorite fantasy books? serious question
>>25447518Titties and violence on tv was all it took. Most people only bought the books to performatively larp as fans of the current thing.
>>25447518As with shit like Prince of Nothing the answer is: it appeals to perverts. It's full of degenerate shit like cuckoldry and shit fetishism.
>>25447527>Most people only bought the books to performatively larp as fans of the current thing.Newfag alert
>>25447522>>25447524Holy shit if you're actually serious you're fucking retarded, the gay shit is entirely optional and the male companies only flirt with you in act 1, if you accepted their advances then the issue is on your side not the game's, maybe you're actually closeted fags? That would explain a lot. Besides, the game is so much than just romance, it's the best fantasy story I've ever experienced in videogames.
>>25447526No. Anything I list you're just going to automatically shit on by default. Kill yourself.
>>25447531>Newfag alertThank you for announcing your arrival so we can tell you to lurk moar.
>>25447498>>25447532https://www.dicegeeks.com/dnd-recommended-reading/
>>25447532Yeah yeah, go cry about it right there >>>/vg/bggMaybe your kind will be more receptive.
>>25447536lol, if you think asoiaf was some obscure series nobody liked before hbo adapted it you're REALLY outing yourself for being new
>>25447532>it's the best fantasy story I've ever experienced in videogames.Please play more video games. And take your nasty defensive argumentative attitude back to >>>/v/.
>>25447542>asoiaf was some obscure series nobody likedYou're illiterate if you think that was what was being implied.
>>25447480Your ability in identifying posters needs improvement.
>>25447540>>25447547Not your hugbox, go cry to the janny about it you bitchy little faggots
>>25447556Yes, dipshit. The retard going "GRRM IS SUPERIOR TO TOLKIEN ACKCHUALLY!!" is baynefag.
>>25447557>mad newfag sperging out because he wasn't immediately catered toWhy would I take somebody serious who says "BG3 is the best story in fantasy games"? That's like when anons here say nonsense such as "GRRM is the best fantasy author".
Frankly im of the opinion that all nobles should just be killed. But if appointing officials works, it implies enough power to depose of and appoint officials as one wills, which implies a coercive force of power that while could still be resisted by powers that banded together to essentially start of civil war, shouldnt be capable of being resisted by one family and one 12 year old girl.Louis XIV also gave government positions to nobles to ingratiate them to his will. but doing so makes no sense if that will couldnt then respond to dissenters and conspirators. Im logicking it out right now, History sources im finding online are rarely specific enough to answer my questions.
>>25447564I'm not even that guy, I'm just laughing at you trying so hard to control your little corner of the internet
>>25447562You're wrong.
>>25442546I'm 5 pages in and it reads like an /x/ greentext, re-formatted by a Redditor to appease normie sensibilities. I can not stand that quirk chungus quip humor, it makes my skin crawl. Hard pass.
>>25447564>picEvergreen.
>>25447570>not him!I am surprised.
>>25447398The Blacktongue Thief
>>25447576meant for>>25447498
>>25447570>I'm not even that guyFollowing the script to the T.
>>25447572>an /x/ greentext, re-formatted by a Redditor to appease normie sensibilitiesIt's literally an SCP tales series that was edited to make it slightly less shit so that's exactly what it is yeah.
>>25447571No use arguing with it. He thinks Brandon Sanderson is a self-published author.
>>25447576I'll blacktongue your ass bitch
>>25447568Shut up, pagebitch
>>25447584Ok
>when you say "NTA" when you are, in fact, TA.
>>25447583Sanderson does self-publish through his company Dragonsteel Entertainment. He's also traditionally published. The books are often both now sequentially.
>>25447591No one has said "NTA" in this thread. Are you foreshadowing?
The first chapters of The Way of Kings read like an anime ngl
>>25447602>>25447602>>25447602
>>25447518I've only read Fevre Dream, and it seems to me that GRRM is effortlessly entertaining, like King, but less heavy on the cringe and edited much more reasonably. It's in that exact sweetspot where a person who only ever read YA trash will think they've now graduated to "real literature", while a well-read person may still enjoy it for its simplicity. It's difficult to hate, but I see you're making your best effort.
>>25447601sheet nigga! you don exposed me!
>>25447601NTA. I don't think that's what he meant.
>>25447608Didn't ask.
Nothing's stopping us from keeping posting in here you know, faggets.
>>25447770Since it's impossible to get (You)s after getting buried by baynefag shitposting and samefagging I'm fine with this one staying dead.
>>25447785Ironic.
>>25447795A sincere post with no (You)s is like a tree falling in the forest with nobody to hear it.
>>25442701fellow french bro, have you read Récits du vieux royaume? I've heard that is both his best work and a good starting point, thoughts?
>>25447176Dragonbone Chair
>>25447218I think Malazan is the peak of fantasy but you might not like it at all so there's just no way to know until you try it and either love it or bounce off of it
>>25448307ain't no way he's going to like malazan if asoiaf is all he's read
PAGESPAMMER!I CURSE YOU!
