This was damn good. Cutting-edge investigative journalist for the 21st century Annie Jacobsen hit it out of the park yet again. 5/5. Annie Jacobsen thread?
>>25450922>female author>topic other than romanceYeah, I'll pass.
>>25450922Does she say why anyone would actually use biological weapons? Seems like they’d backfire very easily
>>25450932>why anyone would actually use biological weaponsBasically so as to study them to develop treatments in the case of a hyper virulent pathogen pandemic. The problem is is that it's damn easy to genetically modify bacteria to be completely antibacterial-resistant.
putting this in my shill filters next to the honor levi shit
>>25450932yeah I also don't understand using Pajeets as a biological weapons, why would you want to have a city full of biodegradable waste
>>25450922"Nuclear War: A Scenario" was a five-star book for me. I'm about halfway done with this one, and it's sitting at three stars. There's a lot of interesting insights about the threat of biological weapons I didn't know, but the book feels like a rehashing of what the world experienced with COVID-19, which has me convinced, now more than ever, that it came from a lab leak. I just entered the part where society is collapsing, and I'm looking forward to seeing how things play out. Hopefully, the book picks up from there.
>>25451274It was obvious from day 1 it came from the lab in Wuhan. The ultimate lesson of covid other than global biosecurity risks is that global conspiracies can be done to cover up massive crimes involving the murder of millions.
>>25451474>t was obvious from day 1 it came from the lab in Wuhan.It wasn't "obvious from day 1," especially not to the public. The Chinese put itself into a media blackhole and refused to answer questions. The facts didn't start trickling out until, at least, a week from the initial outbreak.
>>25450932Covid-19 was an attempt to solve the problems of an ageing society. And an opportunity to inject the masses with mind-controlling vaccines, of course.
>>25450922Both this and the nuclear scenario seem to be dependent on Russia acting irrationally.
>>25450922Were you the guy that posted about reading this while listening to KPN on /metal/?
>>25451576Putin is an especially paranoid nutter after all. >>25451637Lolyes.
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She conveniently ignores Covid, which just fucking happened and came out of a fucking lab (likely intentionally), and still dances around every question she's asked about it. Imagine writing a book about what a potential 20th century global conflict would look like in 1948, and completely disregarding WW2.
>>25451536The initial outbreak was in summer or fall of 2019, you just weren't paying attention. It was quite obvious for anyone with a brain that this was a US-funded bioweapon leak, likely intentional. Thanks for catching up, though. I hope you weren't duped into too many booster shots.
>>25454685You are hopelessly retarded.
>>25454789Why don't you elaborate? Oh, and have you stayed up to date on your booster shots, citizen?
>>25451536>It wasn't "obvious from day 1," especially not to the public.kek. I was working with a bunch of carpenters at the time. the kind of guys who all still smoke, have drug and alcohol issues, constantly cheat on their wives and have inane drama, etc., and even all of them were like "it's obviously a lab leak". who the fuck buys some bat soup yarn? doubly so if you're NOT a blue collar worker and actually know that lab leaks happen often enough that even the worst diseases you've ever heard of have repeatedly escaped from top labs in the west, never mind whatever shit-tier stuff they've got in china.you needed to be a particular kind of unthinking midwit, who thinks he's able to fake presenting as smart bey dogmatically repeating whatever the "experts" tells him, or genuinely so brainwashed you uncritically accept everything the TV tells you, to buy the bat soup narrative
>>25451474I'll never understand why people didn't put one and one together immediately. There's an xyz-type virus that spreads faster than nearly any other virus starting to spread from the exact area where they modify xyz-viruses to spread more easily (good to have for lab-use). Yet it became taboo to suggest that it came from the xyz-lab. People are fucking bonkers.
>>25455195if you recall, there were politicians trying to downplay fears of covid spreading to the us in the weeks before the march 2020 lockdowns. pelosi famously visited chinatown a few weeks before for this very reason
>>25455216Because they needed it to spread for the project to play out.
>>25454682>She conveniently ignores CovidNo she fucking doesn't. Not at all.
>>25455848Enlighten us on what she said about covid. Please do, you obviously read the book and have listened to all her takes on covid. Please, I'd love to hear your nuanced understanding.
>>25455216>pelosi famously visited chinatown a few weeks before for this very reasonPretty sure that was more due to amerigroids reacting to the news by hating asians in general.>>25455195>Yet it became taboo to suggest that it came from the xyz-lab. People are fucking bonkers.The taboos were definitely political, the general evidence seems to be against the lab leak (there are voices on both sides of course but the consensus view is it doesn't hold up). Regardless, even if it was a lab leak, given the economic damage and death toll, with the major trading partner of the entire west that makes literally all our shit, it would be a complete clusterfuck they could never acknowledge, because the obvious follow-up is reparations and sanctions from the rest of the world. Which would be met with a fuck you, and escalation, from the place that makes everything. Well you get the idea, it's all fucking untenable. But of course then if it's confirmed true, and your country is too limp dicked to punish Choyna for death and destruction now /your/ citizens are mad, and want to hold the cuck politicans responsible for inaction (that again is practically impossible). I don't actually think it's the case, but certainly if it were, the incentives to obfuscate it and deny it are just astronomical.
>>25455865>amerigroids reacting to the news by hating asians in generalThis never fucking happened, it was a bullshit narrative constructed by the media to create a sensationalist story vilifying those concerned and speaking out about the virus' leak and possible threat far in advance, taking advantage of the stupidity of low-IQ woke people like you.>the general evidence seems to be against the lab leakAt this point, if you honestly still believe this, you are fucking hopeless and deserve the ridicule of all those around you, because it's only cultist faggots like you who still adhere to this narrative. I'd like to hear what you think this evidence is though, and I don't mean muh the scientists, muh scientific consensus, muh trust the experts garbage, I mean actual evidence that you can cite that is irrefutable. Anyone with a functioning brain has moved beyond that bullshit narrative, especially with the troves of new evidence, basically a smoking gun at this point, that have come out recently, particularly from Fauci's own emails, that support an eco-health alliance funded lab leak from Wuhan, though it's been common knowledge for years now. >death tillAre you referring to deaths from the virus, with the virus, or from the treatment of the virus?Have you stayed up to date on your booster shots? Oh, why not?
>>25455891>This never fucking happened, it was a bullshit narrativeYou're contradicting yourself already then, because if you agree that was the narrative, it was also the reason she visited Chinatown. No part of that story engages the people "speaking out". > deserve the ridicule of all those around you, because it's only cultist faggots like you who still adhereYou live in a fantasy world where you're in the majority? Let me guess, you're also being oppressed.> smoking gun at this point, that have come out recently, particularly from Fauci's own emails, that support an eco-health alliance funded lab leakFauci speculating about a lab leak isn't evidence or a smoking gun, it's just you being retarded. That he lied about his doubts, or that the narrative he painted didn't include what he privately believed is not salient. It's often the case with hysterical retards like you that you don't really understand what evidence means. Like women, you think strong emotion and wild gesticulation together with gossip like "connections" is proof. It's not.>Have you stayed up to date on your booster shots?I have no shots, I got the rona that early (while it still had some kick). Lost part of my sense of smell to it permanently.
>>25455195People didn't put one and one together because that was not the narrative they were ordered to believe. People are indeed that stupid and malleable, anon, particularly when it comes to issues as politicized as covid. And now that that narrative has essentially imploded and the "conspiracy theorists" were right all along, they don't want to talk about it anymore. They want to just move on, though they wouldn't let you move on with your life during covid until the guy on TV (brought to you by Pfizer) said it was okay. The same people who would lose their shit on you in public if you didn't wear a useless face diaper because you were told to by said guy on TV, and happily supported a segregated society based on "vaccination" status for a "vaccine" that not only didn't work, actually injured and killed millions of people globally. Ask them if they've stayed up to date on their booster shots, their reactions are comical.
>>25455901No, amerigroids didn't actually start hating "all asians", you generalizing fucking moron. The fact the you actually believed that shows how fucking stupid you really are. It was a staged political stunt perpetuated by the media to vilify the people raising concerns about the origin and nature of the virus, because it was a politically inconvenient narrative, and because most of them happened to be right-leaning, or otherwise critical thinkers.>You live in a fantasy world where you're in the majority?Ah, so I guess what the majority of people think at any given time is always the truth? That's how you view the world? Are you part of this majority? What a sad fuck you must be. The reality is, most people know the covid narrative was bullshit, but because they bought into it so hard, as you did, they can't confront in themselves, and choose to just bury their heads in the sand. It's like a social sunk-cost fallacy.>isn't evidence for a smoking gunIf we have two origin hypotheses, zoonotic or lab leak, the amount of evidence leaning towards a lab leak compared to zoonotic spillover is overwhelmingly in favor of lab leak. Circumstantially: eco-health alliance gain of function research of coronaviruses at the WIV, where the outbreak originated, Fauci's connections to the lab, etc. Scientifically: The structure and nature of the virus itself (furin cleavage cite), etc.>I am going to assume you're lying, and you just deeply regret your decision, but I'll play devil's advocate. Why didn't you? Are you some kind of antivaxxer? Conspiracy theorist? Don't you fucking trust the science? Why do these questions make you so uncomfortable? Why haven't you provided any actual arguments to back up any of your stupid claims? Argue why zoonotic origin is more likely that lab leak, with all we know, circumstantially and scientifically. And you still didn't answer whether people died of or with the virus, or because of the how they were treated in hospitals. Why can't you answer these questions. Oh, that's right, because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're any easily propagandized moth-breather who believe anything the guy on TV tells (brought to you by Pfizer), and daddy government who would never, ever, not EVER lie to you. Fucking pussy. You people disgust me.
>>25455901>>25455924Excuse the green text fuck up at the end, that was my response to your claim of not getting any shots, which I don't believe. Because obviously you trust the science. You're a good, informed citizen. To question these miracle vaccines (brought to you by Pfizer) and place your faith in natural immunity would be stupid, irresponsible, and dangerous. The guy on TV told me (brought to you by Pfizer), and he would never lie. Not about anything. The origin of the virus, the danger of it, the mortality rate, the death count, the efficacy or safety of the vaccine, nothing. He would never, ever, ever lie.
>>25455901>Lost part of my sense of smell to itYou weak fucking faggot. You must be Australian or Canadian or something. Maybe British. Fucking pussy.
Uh oh melty.
>>25455924>No, amerigroids didn't actually start hating "all asians"You have autism and you can't understand a sarcastic remark. Meanwhile you can't engage with what I said in earnest, about that visit, which you already conceded the origin of, and you stil can't connect how the Chinatown visit connects to "villify people raising concerns". You have some broken connections in your mind little fella.>Ah, so I guess what the majority of people think at any given time is always the truth? Ok, so one minute you pound your chest saying you are in the majority, now you cower in a minority and cry that the majority isn't always right. This is the same insanity that infects the average Pajeet who is simultaneously chest pounding about India Superpower and is also crying about oppression the next second. > the amount of evidence leaning towards a lab leak compared to zoonotic spillover is overwhelmingly in favor of lab leakThat's not the case, or the lab leak would be the preferred explanation which you know it isn't. We once again have your total mental decoherence on display. You now then have to dismiss that the consensus view isn't actually lab leak by more goal post moving and suddenly starting to cry about how the consensus is always wrong, majorities are bad, and somehow despite insisting that you were in the majority, supporting the majority view, your next post is about how you're being oppressed by The Man. Your brain is broken. You have autism. You don't have the intelligence to continue this conversation.
>>25455970This drivel is not even worth responding to. You are a complete waste of time and cannot be helped. Your brain does not function and you are incapable of actually addressing any of my points. My questions regarding your vaccination status have made you uncomfortable, and you'd rather not tread that water. Why do those questions make you so uncomfortable? I know why.
>>25455113tbf took me until like late last year for me to accept it, i mean I wasnt really looking at the news of covids development or origin very carefully but either way
>>25456598How many shots did you end up getting?
>>254566073.
>>25457934Why? Just why? Okay, the first two, you're a retarded, impressionable normie, fine. You wanted to keep your job, fine. But why the third? And why not the fourth? What made you stop? What was your thought process?
>>25458080I got the requisite first 2 + the first booster. I didn't want to get sick. The second and the third doses made me feel like shit, honestly, but I've had COVID since and it's brutal. I don't totally trust the vaccine, like I'm not an antivaxxxer at all, but I've never had a vaccine make me feel sick before. I do think it probably came from that lab tho. (NTA BTW.)
>>25458439You actually thought the vaccine was going to prevent you from getting sick? And yet you still got sick anyway, and it was "brutal". Do you think maybe the vaccine primed your immune system and made the infection worse? Why were you even afraid of getting sick in the first place? Have you looked into these things? Do you understand how mRNA technology works? You know you pretty much turned your body into a spike protein factory each time you took those shots, and there's a good chance your cells are still pumping out cytotoxic spike proteins. Just curious, how old are you?
>>25450922Interesting, this is the thing that actually disturbs me the most and that I think that has more chances of truly wiping us out. I will check that one out.
>>25450922hello marketer
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>>25456607guy who responded wasnt me, I took 1, but I personally still think the vaccine(s) were fine despite now believing it was a lab leak
"chuckle..."Well, by the interest this thread has generated, I'd say Annie Jacobsen was a fucking genius! Her schtick is to take conspiracy theories and find what is actually journalistically valid about them, package it in a book, and sell it. There are a whole slew of women who do this like Shoshana Zuboff and Nancy MacLean... Good Times!....
>>25459194Fine in what way? They didn't work, and injured and killed millions of people worldwide.
Ok I think it’s pretty obvious the virus came out of a lab…Anyways, Jacobsenbros, what did you think of Area 51?
>>25459224>Her schtick is to take conspiracy theories and find what is actually journalistically valid about them,If she were to really do this she'd look into the Epstein elites rather than just taking them at their word like she does in literally all her books.
>>25460107I've read her books>Surprise, Kill, Vanish>Nuclear War>Biological WarI want to read another one of her books soon but I'm unsure of which to read next. I'm thinking either Area 51 or The Pentagon's Brain. Maybe Operation Paperclip.
>>25459711worked fine on me and conspiracists i respect like aaron good say it was a lab leak but dont bother about vaccines. i can believe some would be extremely dangerous by rushed deadlines and inexperience but i doubt thats specifically a conspiracy itself
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>>25460677Same age as me. How did you fall for it all? That's honestly sad.
>>25460673It worked fine on you? How do you know this? Do you even understand how mRNA technology works? And these "vaccines" weren't rushed? Are you kidding me? They're not even vaccines, they're gene therapies, they were just marketed as vaccines to the stupid plebes who don't know any better, because "gene therapy" is novel and sounds scary, and you might not accept the product into your bloodstream.
>>25461260Though I'm a different anon that the one you were talking about. I had to take it for my (government) job as a essential worker, though I never got covid until like 2024 where I it just made me feel a little tired for about 1 day. I took it because I guess I assumed I trusted the system because of the Spanish flu but when I asked my doctor about it, she didn't know much about mRA vaccines and she just assumed they worked fine. Covid period was a nothing burger to me though, just empty highways and diving around. Idk why people hate that period. It was almost like a zombie apocalypse for a few weeks with how empty the roads were.The mask thing people getting upset over was kinda silly though. I prefer to have not taken the shots now but it is what it is. The CDC lying about the mask thing pretty much broke the last trust I had in them though. So since I was a essential worker, I got the shots pretty early and didn't have time to look them up because I was working a lot during that period. Totally missed the whole Summer of Love stuff lol.
>>25460107And yeah I knew it came out by a lab in quite early when things weren't lining up with what China was saying and how the government was reacting when you brought it up 'lab leak'. They wouldn't even entertain the idea when in my state there had been lab leaks or alleged lab leaks and they just told the lab tech to wear a mask lol even though it might have been a really super contagious virus.