It's hit the mainstream media. This is the most-read article on BBC News right now. The backlash should be entertaining.
Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I need to be angry about this.
>>25469204Somewhat unrelated but I hate barcode scanner resellers, pure contempt.
>>25469208Even if you're comfortable with the widespread destruction of books, the process will push up prices across the second-hand market.
>>25469239>Even if you're comfortable with the widespread destruction of booksBooks are cheap to manufacture. This isn't the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, retard. >the process will push up prices across the second-hand marketDon't care. I can download shit for free and own enough books that the value of my personal library will only go up.
>>25469239>widespread destruction of booksMost books were already pulped before AI came onto the scene>push up prices across the secondhand marketThis is why god in his infinite wisdom invented libraries and Anna's Archive
>>25469246>>25469259>But getting big mad because books are being destroyed, even if most books are never read anyway, means I'm a good boy! But getting big mad at AI means I'm part of a super special team of creatives fighting against the system!
>have an ai startup>need training data for my llm>buy up thousands of used books that get thrown out by charity shops>Lord Timothy Dexter's A Pickle for the Knowing Ones sneaks in>the model keeps spitting out random nonsense and misspellings and all the punctuation is at the end
>>25469239anything that disincentivises stealing from authors is a good thing
>anything that disincentivises stealing from authors is a good thing
>>25469278I don't know what point you think you're making. You seem annoying and expendable
>>25469204Ok so they scan them and use them for their technodystopian machinations. My questions is will this lead to those scans appearing on pirate platforms or nah?
>>25469259>Most books were already pulped before AI came onto the sceneBecause they were unsold remainders. Second-hand books have literally been sold once.>This is why god in his infinite wisdom invented libraries and Anna's ArchiveYou will own nothing, and be happy ...
>>25469246>Books are cheap to manufactureDumbass. Most second-hand books are out of print.>I can download shit for freeFiles aren't books.
>>25469239>destruction of booksThey're privately owned books. What the fuck do I care what the owner does with their own property? These are books already in private circulation, they're not stealing them from public libraries. Buy them yourself if you don't want someone else to own it. A significant amount of people destroy or throw away their books anyway, which is their right, because it's their property.>>25469239>push up pricesFor a little bit, while the AI companies are doing this, but it's temporary. Plus, everyone complains about second-hand bookstores closing, and now they complain about this quite substantial shot in the arm these same stores are getting. "More people should support used bookstores! But not those people."It's all just more AI hysteria.
>>25469578>Most second-hand books are out of print.Wrong.>Files aren't books.Wrong. You're a fag.
completely performative trend, none of these books will be read
>>25469305See >>25469605. You're retarded.
>>25469604You were born dead through your mother's arse.
>>25469592>A significant amount of people destroy or throw away their books anyway, which is their right, because it's their propertyThis doesn't excuse them for being philistine faggots. What they should be doing is donating them, or offloading them to dealers.>For a little bit, while the AI companies are doing this, but it's temporaryNope. A reduction in the supply of out-of-print books is permanent. Therefore so are the higher prices.>It's all just more AI hysteria.LOL, this is nothing. Wait till the AI bubble bursts.
>>25469621>2 more weeks until the bubble bursts trust me bro
>>25469621>What they should be doing is donating them, or offloading them to dealersThey're able to buy them en masse because nobody wants to read them. If people wanted to read them, they would've already bought them before AI companies did. They can't offload them to dealers because of copyright law. You're angry at copyright law but you don't know it and you think you're angry at AI companies>da bubba!You're in for a wild next few years.
>>25469509>My questions is will this lead to those scans appearing on pirate platforms or nah?No, it won't. The fair use ruling turned partly on the files being kept internal rather than distributed, so there's a very very strong legal incentive against leakage or distribution
>>25469576>You will own nothing, and be happy ...People should just be able to rob stores
Peter Thiel and his techno-paedo friends have a physical body with flesh and blood and presence established somewhere. It is not hopeless.
>>25469215compared to them i actually have a degree of respect for resellers who actually have to know the details of what they're buying. at least it's technically a skill and requires knowledge. barcode scanners are completely retarded cyborg cretins that don't have the slightest clue what they're buying (try talking to them, you might get a degree of sympathy for them once you realize they're helplessly stupid). they probably learned about it from a "CRAZY SIDE HUSTLE?!?" tiktok.the crazy thing is i don't think they even make that much money, they usually wholesale them to some big vendor with a massive warehouse because if you've ever tried selling $5-15 books online you know it takes forever. and obviously, they're probably not getting a great cut.
>>25469278>>25469300>using wojacks to obfuscate the fact that you're wrong
>>25469204Jews and pajeets destroying the world. What's new? Surely at this point, it's obvious they are satan's lackeys.
>>25469612You exist because Tyrderius D'Shawn put it in the wrong hole and the guy you call your dad didn't have a good enough view from his cuck chair to correct the mistake in time.
>>25469208Male authors are increasingly being openly rejected or overlooked by editors because of an anti-male bias. As a result, men are losing interest in contemporary literature because they feel that much of it is written primarily by and for women. If they want to read genuinely good literature, they increasingly turn to older books, which make up such a significant share of the second-hand market.
>>25469775I've never heard the>it da ebil WIMMINZ n sheitangle, fascinating. It's a horrible argument but it's fascinating>they increasingly turn to older booksWhich is why god in his infinite wisdom invented the public library and Anna's Archive
>>25469775If they want to read genuinely good literature they should get over their sexism and read it
>>25469204Periodic reminder that AI companies scrape the open Internet to train the next generation of LLMs. This thread will be scraped. Say hello to the machine god, it's watching you from the future
>>25469744I'm not wrong though
>>25469239>push up pricesanon this entire process happened like 3-4 years ago and is basically finished. You're hearing about it now because it just came to light
>>25469281Pearls before swine friend
>>25469851hi claude <3 :3 wuv u <3
>>25469204Doesn't make sense. AI companies just mass download from libgen and other sites instead. Why go through the effort of buying physical books and having to scan them all?
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