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>>25484045
Guilty pleasures that you know suck and you will eventually drop but for now you can't stop reading

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No thanks

>>25484059
Apocalypse Reborn.
I only read it for the strategy game memes

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>>25484059
I'm also all the way caught up on this garbage

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>>25483684
>>25482422
Here are the oracles I use to generate characters and locations.

>>25484184
Bruh this is stupid just use your imagination.
Oracles are for DMs so they can save time when making a campaign because the players have agency and will make decisions that result in them not seeing everything the DM makes.

>>25484045
Why don’t you spend time reading canonical literature and humbling yourself before the greats?

>>25484216
>this is stupid just use your imagination
Thankfully, I'm very imaginative. I use oracles for distribution of coverage, not because I need ideas.
Also, post fiction.

>>25478542
>So there must be a good japanese webnovel or LN that is well-translated, right
Heh, pretty pretty high bar.
>Good, well-translated, something intelligent.
The only one that comes to are the Youjo Senki LNs.

For decent translation non-braindead, maybe OreGairu LNs, I remember Kyakkas translations were good (Yen press probably did them as well), with supporting TL notes to for obscure trivia or other things lost in translations.

Maybe Classroom of the Elite but eh, I dropped it somewhere along the line. I remember the writing was pretty mediocre.

I've read so much braindead shit that I've pretty much forgot what was good and not. At this point I'm pretty much dropping anything if it doesn't catch my interest in the first 1-3 chapters.

>My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered
Oof, you're pretty desperate, huh? At this lowpoint of slop reading pretty much the only redeemable quality is if it's a comedy or not. So if you can stomach it I'd recommend The Eminence in Shadow but I'd still recommend the manga over the LNs. Could also recommend some comedy manga.

If we go for Korean instead I'd recommend Legendary Moonlight sculptor and maybe Novel's extra. Though Legendary moonlight sculptor had extreme variance in translation quality when I read it. Fuck.

Could go on if you want (Chinese, English, dig for more Japanese), but there's so much shit and not a lot that is actually any good.

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>got sus of one of the new fictions I'm following
>decide to test a bunch of ai checkers
>get completely mixed results, decide the guy just overpolished his work
>get curious
>test a sample of my own writing
>fucking thing pegs it as serialized web fiction
>does tell me it's probably not AI generated though

Well that's nice. I may have to drop the new story I was reading though because the prose is starting to get grating and the story is moving at a snail's pace.

I'm fucking obsessed with magical girl stories

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>>25484184
This is pretty bad advice for new authors. You shouldn't be throwing random shit into your story.
>the curtains were blue
You WANT the curtains being blue to actually be important and tied to themes n shiet. Not just because the curtains were effing blue amiright fellow millennials?!
>but I just need a character to be the quest giver to my MC
Either don't describe them at all if they're really not important, or make their character actually meaningful and reveal something about the MC through their interaction.

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>>25484271
>This is pretty bad advice for new authors. You shouldn't be throwing random shit into your story.
I'm not rolling random events during the story. Though plenty of pantsers use oracles to create content during their writing. There are a bunch of tools that do this. It's a pretty common thing webnovel authors do. Otherwise people wouldn't make the tools.

>>25484298
>people wouldn't make the tools.
most writing tools are used by the hordes of noreader authors

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-people shouldn't do X, and here's why
>I don't do Y (even though I recommended people do X and evidence was posted that he in fact does do X)
>plenty of people do X and Y
>there are a bunch of tools that do X and Y
>there wouldn't be so many tools if people didn't do X and Y

Okay another point in the column for moving to discord cabal. Ain't no way those fags are as stupid and unblockable as the retards here.

>>25484335
>Unblockable
Fag bros... our attacks are overpowered...

>>25484298
>pantsers
Well there's your problem.

>>25484264
What do you like about them?

>>25484343
thats what we get for dumping all int

>>25484059
Outside of completed webnovels, I've managed to not get myself involved in anything absurdly revoltingly neverendingly long. I think the longest cultivation I read was Desolate Era around 2k chapters.

>>25484059
>>25484385
I read probably 800 chapters of Shadow Slave before catching myself. Shit felt like a fever dream, can't even tell if it was ever any good. Had to drop it when the MC became a voluntary cuck.
Meanwhile I remember laughing my ass of for many parts of I shall seal the heavens and found most of it enjoyable.

>>25484345
isn't that most litrpg / progression authors

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>>25484419
i read into the second arc of SS and dropped it
issth had the best side character in xianxia. im reading a world worth protecting but i hit the MTL parts and fuck

>>25484423
Fuck I get happy just seeing that name. Dumbass adventures with Meat Jelly. Why the fuck was that shit dumb so funny.

Anyone has any similarly good comedy or parody recommendations?

>>25484437
Meat Jelly not being able to count beyond 3 and that being used against him was always a good time. I was really hoping more was going to come from Lord Fifth after the desert arc and teaching those clan dudes the group cultivation method

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I'm going to shill this here because discoverability on RR seems like it's in the crapper from when I released my first book. My retention is decent, but only like 80 people have even clicked to read the 1ast chapter. I was thinking about running ads at ~100k words released, but maybe I should do it at 75. I also changed to this cute gril over the full mask but I don't think it's improved click rate at all.

>>25484440
Is this Horror? 80 clicks is pretty good then

>>25484045
would read past these 170 words:
>The light departed for the day. Darkness came for the town of tents. Exhausted soldiers, camp-followers, and slaves alike retired to their dwellings. But he-who-shouldn’t-have-been- here remained lost in the vast emptiness of the steppe landscape. A hand on his shoulder snapped him out of it.
>"Hostages ought to follow the curfew", he muttered while escorting him back to his tent.
>No matter how many years went by, they never let him forget his stature. Years ago, he had hoped learning their tongue, wearing their clothing, and mastering their ways would one day challenge that perception. What a fool he had been.
>The watchman pushed him into his tent. He fell to its soft carpet. There, a realization hit him: he was alone. The slaves he had shared the tent with were gone from the world. Becoming fond of them had been his mistake. His effort to help them adjust to their new life had been fruitless. They chose to die as freemen rather than endure in shackles.

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here was the 1st cover, which I may go back to. I dunno

>>25484439
Yeah same, lucky enough for me and enough slop and I've probably forgotten enough of ISSTH that I might enjoy a reread.
>a world worth protecting
Is it similarly good? How many chapters until MTL and slurping my brain from the floor? And anything else recommended from Er Gen?

>>25484448
I'd read A Will Eternal and if you want more of that overall lighter MC tone then sure, read AWWP. MTL happens around the early 900s so there is a lot to read.

>>25484443
it definitely has horror elements, but it's very light litrpg. the characters are on an offworld mining base/terraforming project where they're also running other experiments. they spend 3 out of every 5 days inside VR, for reasons that are explained in the book, with the 2 days outside they spend working. they have implants and the people who have been there for more than a couple years have devolved into grey pod people

>>25484450
Nice, appreciate it.

>>25484452
I would have never guessed any of that from your cover or blurb

>>25484448
>>25484450
Jeremy Bai did full translations of Issth, Will Eternal and Beyond the Timescape

>>25484457
It's a sequel with a new MC, so a bunch of that was covered in the 1st book. But point taken. I'll expand the blurb a little to get the mc's feelings on being trapped in hell, maybe I'll change the cover so it has an outer space background or something a little more scifi. appreciate the feedback

>>25484461
>Jeremy Bai
>Deathblade
I have a vague recollection of this name. Thanks.
>>25484463
>a sequel with a new MC
I just skimmed the front page on RRL as I'm tired as shit and about to head to bed but I don't believe you mention it's a sequel anywhere? And I'd probably tone down the amount of commas in the blurb. My eyes are just glazing over and not actually reading the text.

Did you commission someone for your book cover? How do I find an artist

>>25484472
>tone down the amount of commas in the blurb
doing so now. cutting some of the fluff

>>25484477
>How do I find an artist
Skeb if you want to work with difficult Jap artists that might ghost you
Vgen is like Skeb but it's mostly SEA
Searching for book commission artists on Arstation or Deviantart
Bookishartists.com but it's mostly styles that appeal to women
Some subreddits like r/bookcovers and r/hungryartists

>>25484491
Which of these communities is least likely to sperg out if I send them an AI generated image as a reference for my character

>>25484494
Ironically Skeb. You submit your request, payment and reference images. Then they either accept and give you the art or decline. You don't actually talk to them. That's what makes them difficult to work with as you can't make and requests for changes once they're done and technically they don't have to strictly follow your references.
But since you're afraid of a spergout it's the best choice, the worst is Vgen since the community identity is partly anti-ai

>>25484045
Are there any fucking web novels that the author doesn't simp on and put women on pedastals??
Every single web novel I read has characters in it that constantly simp for the women.
Every fucking female minor character and lead are "earth-shatteringly beautiful", curvaceous, strong, independent, don't need men, etc. while the men are shown to be weak, evil, and pathetic second-class citizens.
Absolutely unrealistic feminist garbage that gets in the way of good story-telling. Also imagine the plot elements and humor if they put in plain or ugly looking women. So much wasted potential.
Even if they didn't, this simping just needs to fucking stop. I go to the main web novel sites and some of the top-rated novels have tags like "R-18", "harem", "strong female lead", etc.
Web novels have been destroyed by gooners.

>>25484629
stop going to coomer web novel sites, dumb retarded incel.

>>25484494
kys

>>25484070
I am vomit

>>25484335
If you feel the need to block people that aren't actively harassing you you don't belong on 4chan, correct. Totalitarian little freak.

Pissing on you nigguhs
Yuh
Can’t read real books
So you got a webnovel
Yuh yuh
Nigguhs can’t read books good

>>25484491
>Booki shartists
What a name

>>25484655
My two favorite authors (out of the top five) are Virginia Woolf and Ellake

>>25484629
I dunno my patreons got mad when I wrote a woman being a woman and they got REALLY mad when I had a woman betray the MC a little later.
Actually shit I might just have an incel audience. They were mad at OTHER female characters being normal and self-interested, too.

Or maybe men just like fantasy women.

>>25484654
I simply do not wish to engage with posters who clearly have a sub-90 IQ. It's better for everyone that I can just block them and be spared their inane typings.

>>25484629
I know you're having a meltie but personally strong capable women are more attractive than the timid dolls of Eastern fic. I just dont like that archetype at all. I assume most westerners feel that way seeing how its the trend you noticed

>>25484672
I personally hate that. Realistic women are not le epic girl bosses. I like realistic women (and don't go to RR for it), I don't like literary trannies (but will tolerate them if the story is fun). And many stories require strict archetypes, not psychological realism, and trying to combine the two in such a story is probably the worst thing you can do as writer.

>>25484672
>strong capable women
Reads as "arrogant asshole that the narrative bends over backwards to fellate" in 99% of cases

Got a hankering recently for some evil overlord stories recently. Thought about writing something, maybe just as a warmup between other projects, but a thought's occured to me.

How do you actually -make- an evil overlord story that readers will enjoy? More specifically, how do you make readers want to root for a villainous protagonist without just pussying out and making the "good" guys worse? Any existing examples on Royal Road you guys would recommend?

>>25484685
Might be the only time a Reverend Insanity recommendation is actually relevant

>>25484665
>blocks instead of ignoring
Sign of a weak mind. Great way to make your own echo chamber too.
You're going to have a rough time when society collapses. Imagine encountering annoying (or even evil) people only to realize there are no block buttons in real life and no police to ask for help from. you'll have no idea what to do or how to talk lmfao.

>>25484699
Ignoring or de-escalating*
Not like that retard is capable of doing such a thing.

>>25484665
NTA, but anyone who mentions IQ is usually self-conscious about how their own intelligence is perceived by others. As they have received insults against their intelligence that were effective, and thinks it works on other people. They are narcissists.
The most insufferable people in the "high-IQ" space are those that just barely qualify for MENSA at 132.

>>25484676
which story has a "realistic woman" you like? as an act of good faith the strong girl boss I like is Yerin from Cradle, for example
>>25484680
most characters suck in 99% of cases because 99% of everything sucks
but doormat doll females are way worse than females with real personality, motivation, interior strength. I genuinely get grossed out when they're just there to be pretty and a fixation of the mc

>>25484440
>femc
Stopped reading right there.

>>25484782
>which story has a "realistic woman" you like?
In web novels? None so far. Or at least none that consciously struck me as being realistic. I haven't read Cradle.

Otherwise: Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary, The Passion According to GH by Lispector, Pride and Prejudice by Austen

>most characters suck in 99% of cases because 99% of everything sucks
Truthnuke

>but doormat doll females are way worse than females with real personality, motivation, interior strength.
This is fine but it's (mostly, in isolation more realism is 'better' and what you prefer is marginally more realistic) a personal preference.
>I genuinely get grossed out when they're just there to be pretty and a fixation of the mc
But not at the other narcissistic power fantasy stuff that web novels are full of? Again your preferences are 100% fine but so are those of the autistic guys who read harem slop, at least in terms of artistic (lol) value.

>>25484782
>a "realistic woman" you like
There are none in real life. That's why retards like you make up fantasy worlds in which they essentially become like men and then propagandize it to create the next generation of numales with mommy fetishes.
Run back to the shelter of lala land, young padewan.

>>25484856
Gifted is essentially just a mommy fetish story and the mom isn't like a man at all.
I think you're conflating things.

>>25484676
Clara Casewell from the novel Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi is a very realistic woman.

>>25484863
Are you a woman? That's not the appeal of Gifted at all. The mommy stuff is a part of it but it's fairly minor. Unless you mean something noncolloquial by "fetish".

What would Spectral Soul do to seething incels?

>>25484672
The thing to note is that in most of the fantasy world in this genre, the difference between male and female is essentially null and void.
This would naturally drastically impact the socialization of women in that universe.
There is no reason for a woman that was raised in a world where anybody can become a walking nuke regardless of sex to have the same outlook on life as an average modern woman.

>>25484873
?
Who is seething

is there a reason some people hate Fmc?
I'm not exactly a fan either but i don't get why it would be such a deal breaker as most of them act like a men anyway.

>>25484888
reading fmc novels is akin to gooning to sissy hypno.

>>25484888
they usually act like toxic men, because they are usually toxic women

>>25484888
I don't inherently but when the author starts (inaccurately) describing their thoughts about underwear and how they dress it gets extremely cringe and distasteful.

Also, when I read slop I usually want a self insert of some kind and I am not a woman, nor do I give a shit about the authors fantasies about them.

Tldr most slop authors are terrible and terrible at writing women so yeah obviously people develop an aversion.

>>25484893
I think this sort of thing is more common in the sci-fi stuff that I tend to read, to be clear.

>>25484893
but women constantly talk/think about their underwear and how they dress

>>25484888
It would take too long to explain

>>25484893
Understandable, I don't really care too much about self inserting into woman, it's harder sure, but as long as the authors doesn't go into autistic detail about womanhood or shit like that I can follow just fine.
Granted I largely prefer when the MC is male.

>self insertion
very female coded

But how can you write a Magical Girl story with a male MC?

>>25484895
have you actually talked to them about their underwear and how they dress?
and not for special occasions like dinner, weddings, fucking; but the everyday shit?

>>25484895
Sort of, kind of, and not in *any* way like what I'm complaining about.

>>25484906
>have you actually talked to women
yes, I spent most of my time at university with women

>>25484904
Check out Kore ga zombie desu ka?

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>>25484477
>How do I find an artist
By asking KR on RoyalRoad about it.

>>25484629
Of course there are. thousands on RR.
You are just mad the popular ones are not like that. So shut up , poser.

>>25484907
The more time I spend talking to women, the more I realize that there is literally NOTHING that is too absurd to be coming out of the mouth of a woman. And if something can come out of the mouth of one woman, it can come out of the mouth of a group of women.

You see people bitching and moaning about "men writing women" all the time, but the biggest mistake that *men* writing *women* make is that they write them *like men*. Making them think, and feel, and act like men. But nobody EVER complains about this. Which reveals to you that, the thing people actually don't like about "men writing women" isn't that they write women like women, but that they write women in what to-them is unflattering ways. But to a man, or to a woman who thinks that women should act like men, a woman being written *like a woman* is always going to seem unflattering.

Anyway. If your female characters (not a specific female character, individuals are kind of excepted from the rules, because of individual variation, but when all of them do this) aren't constantly being unreasonable, emotional, dogmatic, and very socially inappropriate when it comes to discussing sexual things or their interpersonal relationships, you're probably not writing women properly.

>>25484962
incel

>>25484685
If you want an evil overlord go read Chinese murderhobo garbage. I've never understood the pull of this for the sake of it. The easy route is making it a comedy (Overlord), tangentially related is To Be a Power in the Shadows. The harder route is making the reader empathize with the MC, usually with good internal rationalizations or intelligence. I'd wager this is where Reverend Insanity fits but I dropped it as it was boring as shit. Otherwise tangentially related is maybe Worm or A Practical Guide to Evil.

Otherwise what is the pull of an evil overlord story to you?

>>25484960
Is the missing element simping for women? I had 0.5 stars for the MC bullying women at the start.
>>25484685
Define evil overlord.
For that matter, define archmage.

I can't seem to capture a larger audience despite, in theory, having the necessary components.
Seems like I just suck.

>>25484962
No, I specifically said I hate girlbosses earlier. For me specifically I cannot stand the inaccuracy and so would prefer most authors write from their own sex's viewpoint. I hate the way most female authors write men almost as much, moreso on the rare occasions that they insert their fetishes the way male authors tend to. Also you're being reductive and overly harsh but I'm not going to get into it, the thread is derailed enough.

>>25484964
Hey there little lady, you must be lost. Reddit is thataway, down the hall and to the left. Now git!

>>25484969
>missing element simping for women
No, you have to actually write characters that are interesting and usually have some type of charm, not banal SoL shit. I'm using charm not as physical attraction but as a pull: something that's fun/interesting, I want to see more of that. Beauty here is just the lowest hanging fruit and because most authors are shit and write banal shit not making them beautiful/simping is shooting yourself in the foot.

>>25484969
I'll follow up by
>MC bullying women
This usually only works in a comedy, example KonoSuba. Otherwise I see no reason why I would find such an MC to be interesting for the sake of it, more likely some low IQ incel trash. If I wanted to read that I'd go to /r9k/. Usually you are hooking the audience at this point, not revealing your powerlevel.

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>>25484988
>This usually only works in a comedy
It is a comedy.

>>25485091
How many words/chapter does this have?

>>25485091
Isn't this pretty standard?

>>25485094
Post it or an excerpt. Comedy can be extremely hit or miss. I'd probably always have a secondary opinion read through it to see if you manage to execute it properly. I usually find bullying to be somewhat gratuitous but there are probably times I don't particularly remember now, usually in manga, where I laughed my ass of. "Good natured" bullying is easier to pull off. Though I find for example mutual assholery between bros to be superior which is tangentially related. Example is Grand Blue manga.

I have read 60 chapters of Revenge of the Slop King [LitRPG] [Cheat Power] [Harem] [Cultivation] [Reincarnation] [Revenge] [With a vengeance!] by K.R. so far.
It's actually not worse than typical chinkshit. I will read at least 60 more chapters.

What would Popeye do in this situation?

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>>25485111
>Post it or an excerpt

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>>25485126
Glad to hear that you are enjoying it, anon.
Dare I say that it is... Peak?!
I really do not like the first arc. I am sorry. The second one is where it gets "good" if you will.

>>25484988
Bullying is asians' idea of "comedy" while a flagrant trigger concept for the western readers. Most RR readers are only going to shrug and not get it, or else be severely buttblasted. But no one is going to laugh

>>25485148
>Bullying is asians' idea of "comedy"
Ah, right. And they usually overdo it in a very stale format for some reason. Now that I think about it I was more going for grating than gratuitous in >>25485111

>>25485146
>Revenge of the Slop king
>Slopper in a car
>Title tags [LitRPG] [Cheat Power] [Harem] [Cultivation] [Reincarnation] [Revenge] [With a vengeance!]
>Sexual content
That's some pungent shit.. I'll check it out.

>>25484960
>of course there are
>thousands
>doesn't list a single one

>>25485204
1% lifesteal
player 0.4
super soldier in another world
manifest fantasy

People complain about slop in other countries a lot and for good reason, but they will forever be mogged by the Japanese by just how soulless they make everything. Even more annoying is all the stuff we complain about originally became popular there.

>>25484863
Yeah, meant to greentext "strong girl boss" since that guy's obviously a simp.

>>25484871
What is Gifted about? I am not into mommy stuff but I am into gentle femdom.

>>25485221
Most people don't remember being born. Sebastian remembers dying first.

Reborn with his memories somewhat intact and a stolen demon's power tangled into his soul, he's given something rarer than any starting class: time. Time to test his limits before he can walk. Time to reverse-engineer a hidden system no one will explain to him. Time to learn exactly how much of himself he can afford to reveal, and to who.

Growing up at a mountain outpost on the edge of nowhere, raised by a disgraced mage and his daughter, Bastian has every reason to keep his Status a secret. But the numbers don't lie, and neither does the thing he absorbed in the womb. Somewhere in the dark, it's still hungry. And it isn't the only thing watching him grow.

>>25485146
Following up from >>25485162
Honestly not too bad from reading a couple of chapters, there are some parts that are semi-cringe, such as when using the words scrub, normie and maybe something else. Feels a bit too zoomerish. I'd probably go over it again to refine it a bit.
What I absolutely hate though is the litrpg system and skill dumping. At this point if I hear the word system I get shudders. Here it just ruins the flow of the story and I one stray thought away from just being filtered. Then directly after we have a real hook, finally something happens
>dumping all points into charm
>absolute first interaction with a native
>have you heard of our lord and savior, crop rotations?
kek

Comedy varies but mostly good enough.

Dialogue/interactions are probably your strongest point along with formatting it in an JP/LN way. Story of MC expectation vs reality has potential.

MC personality leaves a lot to be desired. Comedy+OP MC can be fun but mostly it's done badly by western authors. I don't really care for an MC that has somewhat of a teenage arrogance. He is dumbsmart and thats fine although I see people complain in the reviews. I find say Shadow Eminence as portrayed in the manga to be loosely similar but superior to your MC.

Didn't read too far though as pretty much all tags are things I avoid because they usually make for a shit story.

>>25485207
But rice is so tasty.

>>25485227
>litrpg system and skill dumping
meant as "paragraph dumping". It goes on and on. It's one of the reasons litrpgs are almost always shit. Who the fuck cares. It even felt like chapter dumping.

>>25485227
>loosely similar but superior to your MC.
The main difference here would be is that atomic edgychuuni wanted to get isekai'd and thought that it was the sickest shit ever.
Slopper slowly realizes that his <10 minute conversation locked him into a prison he picked for himself, and there is no way out.
Of course there is more to it. People who stay in a prison long enough soon become afraid of the free world.

>>25485250
Yes, I more meant it as a character. Cid seeking the peak of power in order to larp is an excellent oddity for the character that opens up a shitton of potentially fun scenarios. And because it is such an extreme oddity his PoV, actions and reasonings can almost always be fun to read.
As I said I didn't read too far into your story but average american teenager joe into gooner heaven doesn't have the same hook or potential for the scenario or reasonings. If you go too much into the goonerism it will probably be shit unless you do a twist on it like a foot fetishist or something like Prison School.

But yeah sorry, hard for me to really give you more nuanced feedback here as it just isn't my cup of tea as mentioned.

>>25484440
man the blurb is i dunno i don't like it

fake guilty now deep space research friend of assassin guy but dream of out

okay what progression what litrpg what going on, just a lot of yap

>>25485224
That sounds genuinely pretty cool. I was worried it was going to be someone's fetish and maybe there's some stuff in there but it sounds like it's both popular and interesting.

>>25485291
How do you get like this? Is it alcohol? Weed?

>>25485224
This is fine. It's not great, not terrible.

>>25485304
Kek, probably. Combined with a shit ton of slop.
>>25485224
>Time to reverse-engineer a hidden system no one will explain to him.
>Bastian has every reason to keep his Status a secret
This two lines feels dumb enough to be AI written.

Would you read this?

Kill Stealer (Spy Thriller LitRPG)
Money can buy everything, even levels.
In this world, the rich hire professional trappers to capture live monsters so their children can swoop in for the killing blow and reap all the rewards. It's not kill-stealing if you paid good money for it.
Thirteen-year-old Insert Namehere doesn't have rich parents. He's a scholarship kid at a fancy private school, where his mom works as a lunch lady.
While he is working odd jobs to save up for an upcoming school trip, a monster that was meant to be some rich brat's birthday present breaks free and starts wreaking havoc.
Insert doesn't run.Using his quick wit, he lures the monster into a trap and kills it, earning more EXP than he knows what to do with.
Big mistake.
Arrested for illegal kill-stealing, Insert is faced with a choice: join a shady government agency and work for them as a teenage spy, or let his mother lose her job and get saddled with more debt than either of them could pay off in a lifetime.
It's not really a choice at all.
Thrust into the world of spies and secrecy, Insert must endure brutal training to become the agency's perfect hidden weapon.
His first assignment: go undercover at a private hunting camp for rich kids, owned by one of the wealthiest men in the country.
On the surface, everything looks perfect: green hills, beautifully manicured forests, and "tamed" monsters stripped of their fangs, ready to be hunted for sport by a bunch of spoiled teenagers.
But beneath the glamour, something dangerous is brewing: an experimental weapon that doesn't just put every kid at camp in danger, but threatens to upend the world as Insert knows it.
Alone, out-leveled, and way out of his depth, Insert Namehere is the only thing standing between a madman and the city where his mother lives.

>>25485320
no, write a Lawyer Thriller LitRPG instead.

>>25485304
Low standards and a bit too much respect on edge.

>>25485320
nah, sounds like some Alex Rider type shiii

>>25485320
>Arrested for illegal kill-stealing, Insert is faced with a choice: join a shady government agency and work for them as a teenage spy
Kek, what kind of dumb plot is this? Are kids watching Nickelodeon your target audience?

>>25485337
because the second act is basically the plot of Point Blanc

>>25485320
I'd read a bog-standard spy kid novel but this kill-stealing bullshit is a some 10yo fantasy shit

>>25485337
>>25485339
>>25485342
You guys don’t like Alex Rider?
That sucks.

>>25485356
I liked Alex Rider when I was 10 years old. Now it just sounds a little corny.

>>25485356
what >>25485361 said
Alex Rider is written for tweens
but it was interesting because the Serious™ Spy Kid novel was a, well, novelty at the time
just like Artemis Fowl was interesting because the Serious™ Urban Fantasy Thriller For Kids was a novelty at the time
(I seem to recall a review describing AF as "Die Hard but with fairies" and subsequently it was adopted as a semi-official tagline)
but now you're just rehashing an old plot, and with a twist that doesn't interest me at all too

>>25485320
Thing I discovered trying to play the old James Bond RPG is that there's not that many interesting spy stories you can do with a progression system of power.

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I finally got around to rewriting my webnovel. It's not LITRPG, or cultivation, or any other things related to the meta so a lot of you probably won't like it. But if you just want something different for its own sake then it's a good read. Picrel are the two MCs. The one on the right is a boy
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/77729/progressive-made-lost-in-the-darkness

Also besides Attorney to the Villainess, what other webnovels have been made by you guys? I saw the spreadsheet was removed, so that makes it harder to find and support the stuff created here

>>25485495
No thanks

>>25484973
incel (nta)

>>25485522
I'm literally a Chad lol I'm 5'11.5 and I've had sex with two women this year

>>25485495
Please tell me you're an actual japanese person learning english and not a total schizo

>>25485531
>chad
>5'
so you are an incel and a manlet

>>25485536
How is being significantly above median height "Manlet status"
How is having sex with two women "involuntary celibacy"

Nobody writes men realistically. I always cringe when I read about these intelligent, calculating characters. It's just authors projecting their fetishes. Men are all retarded faggots. I've never talked to a male that wasn't an utter fag and an idiot. No intelligible word ever comes out of their mouths that isn't "I want to suck cock right now!"

>>25485495
Man I'm sorry I just can't get into the crossdressing stuff. We have similar spergings I literally need help with understanding how the Japanese operate but I like masculine male characters and adult women.

>>25485583
Honestly I WOULD suck your cock because nothing gets my boypussy wet like a scintillating culture critique
but uhm
well...
you know

YOUR A FUKIN BITCH !!!!!!!!! !!! !

>>25485583
If you think about it logically, sucking cock is way more fun than licking snizz.

>>25485587
Yeah it only makes logical sense if u think abt it
Vaginas r irrational

>>25485583
>Men are all retarded faggots. I've never talked to a male that wasn't an utter fag and an idiot.
Same.

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>>25485495
>one on the right is a boy

>>25485495
>The one on the right is a boy
based

>>25485495
>Also besides Attorney to the Villainess, what other webnovels have been made by you guys?
there's a few but that one is our best work

>>25484663
Don't give in to the simps in your patreon just for some beta bucks.
One of the worst things for any author to do is to veer off track from the original story just to appease a liberal crowd and avoid being "offensive".
Even worse is to do it for money.
Don't let it happen to you, dude.

>>25485531
Then why do you write such garbage?

ALERT
ALERT
NEW GIFTEDKINO IN T-25 MINUTES
I REPEAT
NEW GIFTEDKINO IN T-25 MINUTES
HOW MANY TIMES WILL ELLAKE SEXUALIZE BASTIAN'S MOTHER THROUGH HIS EYES?
WILL THE COMMENTERS CONTINUE TO SHIP TWO FOUR YEAR OLDS?
WILL HE TURN TEN YEARS OLD BEFORE 2030‽
TUNE IN TO FIND OUT!

>>25485706
Because it's funny
When did you guys get so many sticks up your asses. Are you all esl?
"I'm 5'11 POINT FIVE and totally a Chad" <- a very serious post according to half of you

>>25485583
Most men are like that but not all. It sad that you've never met any interesting, intelligent, driven people.

>>25485717
Sorry, for some reason thought you were >>25485495

>>25485738
No apologies needed
But yeah that's not me
He is at least 6'7"

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>>25485717
It is serious. 5'11.5" is a manlet.

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>The dress hung perfectly down to Mum’s ankles, her brown leather boots peaking out from beneath them. The lower half of the gown was pleated making the dress flare ever so slightly from her waist when she turned. Above her stomach, the dress hung looser, breathing in the air before being cinched once more close to her neck. The same looseness was present along the arms with little silver buttons cinched at her wrists and some simple white scrollwork around her forearms.
>Mum did a few little turns for us while we clapped, her heart-shaped face lighting up.
The current state of litrpg progression novels.

>>25485148
Will arnett is funny whenever he plays a bully

>>25485783
BRAVO ELLAKE
+3000 PATREON BUCKS

We should get together and collectively write an interlinked network of wns set in the same world but catering to slightly different micromarkets like how games workshop did with the black library slopnovels

I call "not it" for the baby progression division

what are gu?

>>25485783
Am I in novelai general?

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>>25485818
Zines. You're asking for zines. Set up a mailing list for contact info and you could probably get a few anons to work something out, but you're just asking for zines.

>>25485818
I like it, good way to practice. But no-one will agree on the setting and multiverses are gay.

>>25485783
This detail is absolutely necessary for the reader.

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>>25485905

>>25484873
What would Popeye do to seething incels?

>>25485495
cute boy

>>25485936
No I just thought the idea of someone doing that and some poor bastard getting stuck writing the baby progression stuff was really funny

Reading Gifted and trying to understand why it's popular, I think I have, has given me some kind of profound neurological damage

Zines are cool though. I wish there was still that kind of thing going on here.

How to give MC a rival character without making it gay?

>>25486115
by making it the opposite sex duh

>>25486126
I considered this but it changes the dynamic a ton

>>25486115
Have them be real foes for an arc before they settle into the rival relationship.

>>25486138
You know it's extremely easy to have your character not be in celibate without including romance right? But I suspect the absence of this in webnovels is because it would remind most of the audience and writers of Tanner from highschool so that's not a real option, still gonna throw it out there.

>>25486161
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

>>25486162
Have your character show interest in and have sex with women, slowpoke.

>>25486168
Okay, and what does that have to do with the statement that changing a male character to a female one necessitates changing the dynamic by which they interact?

>>25486172
I was answering your original question from >>25486115
retard-kun.

>>25485146
>>25485227
>>25485250
I read some more out of inertia and the quality really does go up, it might be because it is mostly interactions which is your strongpoint. I'd really go over the first couple of chapters until meeting the first villagers if you want to turn away fewer readers. As mentioned they feel more like a first draft in need of an edit.

>>25486175
Then why did you reply to >>25486138 ?

>>25485495
Excellent, more anon stories to start reading.
>Also besides Attorney to the Villainess, what other webnovels have been made by you guys?
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/147524/a-game-of-cosmic-titans

>>25486180
Because I assumed someone claiming to be a writer would have reasoning skills above a down syndrome patient, my bad I should have known better in this thread.

>>25486191
Nothing about your post indicated it was about the original one, control your autism for one moment and stop assuming everyone can read your mind and getting butthurt when they don't.

>>25486201
I'm only going to treat special needs posters as such if they wear a label, like the 'Please be patient I have autism' hats, consider using something like that in the name field in the future.

>>25485495
based

>>25485495
Mine isn't LitRPG, cultivation, or meta either.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/93079/keygemin-sky-pirates-w-magic

>>25485495
>>25486190
>>25486387
I really should make my own spreadsheet so you faggots stop advertising.

>>25486396
ok? then go for it fag?

>>25486477
last time this happened people did not respond well

>>25486520
that's only because the previous spreadsheet-anon was a stalker schizo and put stories on the sheet that weren't even advertising and didn't want to be on it.

I think the way you all want to do a spreadsheet is overcomplicating things. I could just make a rentry with the stories, a brief synopsis, and any other information the author deems necessary. I could make a post around the first of every month asking if anyone wants to get added and that's that. Simple, easy, and non-stalkerish.

>>25486565
I'll be scraping the archives for anyone who has ever posted their fiction.

>>25486575
k

>>25486598
This guy exists only to destroy our general.

>>25486606
The solution is simple. Just ignore and starve of attention. If he acts up, report.

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>>25486598
Made an app to pull the data real quick.

>>25486628
I can't take it anymore
you know what, I fucking hate /wng/

this is why i would post random links and claim i wrote them.

Fortunately I, the renown author of New Life as a Max-Level Archmage, am completely safe from all creeps

>>25486168
It's not a slice of life or a school drama.

>>25486752
I could use sentiment analysis to determine if post is genuine, evaluate over multiple posts, breakdown the net statistics of past posts relative to fiction size and create an evaluation determining the likelihood of the author being a /wng/ user. Full Orwellian.

>>25486793
then your story should start with the MC's wife/girlfriend (who they had sex with) being killed to start their journey
dead wife fiction is PEAK.

>>25486796
Bronsonesque revenge flicks are passé these days
the conflict has gone deeper than that, as society's mores become more degraded
remember, fiction is usually an enlargement or exaggeration of real life
in those days such events were nearly unheard-of and hence exciting
nowadays we have WORSE: women kill their own children, people kill children, people rape a man's girlfriend at knifepoint in front of him, and society doesn't react in instant moral outrage but ask: "what colour were the perpetrators' skin?"
and if the answer is not the correct answer, they dismiss the incident
hence, a revenge plot would lose half its sting if the perps are the wrong colour

>>25486804
damn bro ok

>>25486796
>mc severing all the wordly attachments to start their journey
Sounds promising

>>25486804
>>>/pol/

>>25486787
who?
stop referencing last year's microcelebrity, we worship Ellake now
He's a better writer anyway

>>25486804
Revenge plot works even better if the people in the story are on the side of the perpetrators I think, especially if they did something abhorrent but it's accepted as commonplace

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>>25486891
perpetrators of the vengeance, or perpetrators of the crime? it's not entirely clear from your post

for the latter? sure
for the former? really hard sell
at risk of invoking a /lit/ meme, that'd be like writing someone shooting Humbert Humbert dead and then expecting the audience to empathise with Humbert and boo the gunman
like making this woman the villain of your story and expecting the audience to go along with it

>>25486902
Perpetrators of the crime, apologies
Basically a scenario that the reader can clearly tell is unjust and emphasize with the protagonist but characters in the story don't see it that way for whatever reason and are opposed to the protagonist's desire for vengeance

>>25486902
and I flipped latter/former for the first time in my life, son of a bitch

>>25486922
>a scenario that the reader can clearly tell is unjust and emphasize with the protagonist but characters in the story don't see it that way for whatever reason and are opposed to the protagonist's desire for vengeance
yeah no that's bog-standard for the genre, from Bronson to Batman to the Boondock Saints

>>25486922
>Perpetrators of the crime, apologies
>Basically a scenario that the reader can clearly tell is unjust and emphasize with the protagonist but characters in the story don't see it that way for whatever reason and are opposed to the protagonist's desire for vengeance
So another capeshit hero protag trope.

I did not expect the most tedious part of writing litrpg to be writing the status screens. Downside of using markdown I guess.

>>25487084
I get that some people write to an audience that wants them but I think most authors immediately minmise them for this reason.

>>25487089
I was doing that at first but I read more litrpg to try and better understand the appeal and now I unironically think it's really fun, if done wel. I have put more of it into my story, although I still I have a """clever""" way to avoid an actual omnipresent god-system that hopefully people will like and not get pissed off at.

There's still an element of almost lovevraftian inhuman technohorror to the sloppiest slop and how it works but some of it is cool. It's like Hallmark movies for autistic men.

>>25487092
>>25487084
Don't wanna be that guy, but it sounds like the perfect thing to ask AI without killing the "integrity" of your work. Just work a few by hand to use as examples and keep it updated. Or build a small program that makes it for you, you just click + or insert a number

>>25487165
Using AI for it is really fucking dumb you're only changing like 1-2 lines each time and copy-pasting the rest
You'd just be adding work

>>25487199
Well, if it were that easy, then why is that anon complaining?
I'm assuming it's not a matter of just changing a few lines; there's HTML involved, centering and such, and adding could be a pain.

>>25487165
AI wouldn't necessarily help. I use it (not for writing, just research and to automate the process I came up with for creating certain kinds of names (into and out of dead languages with some novel orthography and other stuff)) but it's more how fiddly it is to actually write the things and get them lined up right even if I know exactly what I want, and then also have to redo all of it in the royal road editor. I do think once I'm used to it I will write a script to help, especially to handle the markdown -> rr editor transition.

>>25487229
*Write the things at first

I mostly use AI to red-team. Makes it easier to avoid me writing more complex fights without it making the obvious outcome so blatant and with the newer models they actually come up with shit that sometimes makes for a more interesting trajectory than just the MC winning cleanly.

If your MC does not kill his wife during sex then goes on a murderhobo cultivation quest in chapter 1 then you lost me as a reader.

>>25487240
I do something similar, but I never accept plot recommendations, I just use them to find problems and then create my own solutions (if I agree that it's a problem). It's hilarious that AI is both drowning us in lazy dogshit generated by retarded South Americans and also making it much, much easier to write well. The latter just requires discipline.

>>25487250
You'll read the slow burn friends to lovers romance subplot interlude chapters where nothing violent happens and you'll FUCKING LIKE IT buddy

Switching to a side character POV to hype up your protagonist really works every time doesn't it? So many popular stories pull that.
Kinda interesting because it's less of a thing in trad pub genre works

>>25487400
examples?

>>25487400
I can't believe the retards actually asking to see the perspectives of other characters glaze the MC, fucking insane

>>25487402
Sanderson talks about doing it in one of his writing lectures. I forget what book but it's at the beginning of one of the stormlight ones.

>>25487400
It works even better to do an enemy pov and show your mc as a slasher villain from their pov

>>25487470
It's not direct glazing by them, it's more like you present the MCs powerlevel from the pov of someone weaker and they're left shocked and in awe and maybe dead.
I feel like it's derived from those stories (not just web novels) where the MC has no idea what they're doing but everyone around them thinks they're some kind of genius.

>>25487626
Yeah that's the spacebattles formula (I'd say GITC but I dunno if it started there) happy-go-lucky protagonist and then you have everyone else going "holy shit they're so scary"

I'm kinda tempted to do some where everyone just thinks the protag is a lucky incompetent but that wouldn't go down well with the progression fantasy audience

>>25487626
>i-impossible
>sasuga murderhobo-sama

>>25487655
>lucky incompetent but that wouldn't go down well with the progression fantasy audience
Why? It's not that different from the MC hiding his power trope.

>>25487655
>lucky incompetent
pretty much the definition of every litrpg powerfantasy

>>25487659
Nah mc hiding his power is about faceslapping unsuspecting shittalkers

>>25487402
MLA is the biggest one, half the chapters are side-POV.
Archmage coefficient does it (also does anti-glaze -- hating as jealousy)

>>25487400
I like
>big powerup or personality shift first seen from antagonist POV

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I've finally reached the autism level of working out the actual real internal mechanics of a mech suit instead of just gun sperging or magitech sperging

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>>25487994
wrong image version

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>I was escorted out of the wooden ring by the soldier as the next two combatants were brought in. Taking a few deep breaths, I settled my nerves as I waited for my next match. A glance at my Mum, who waved encouragingly to me, certainly helped.
Ah.. good little boy received some encouragement from his mummy, so sweet!!

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>>25488000
peamstunk momento
for a bit more context this thing is like the inbred child of escaflowne and barzam

>>25488352
>>25487994
The worst part of any web novel is when the author starts sperging about worldbuilding aspects they put a lot of effort into developing but have absolutely no need to be in the story.

>>25488377
I get all the sperging out of my system in my docs and mostly restrain myself from sperging about them outside of extra materials (which are optional so it's on you if you read them)

>>25488381
>>25488377
the main thing isn't about "impressing the readers" or anything like that, 70% of the material I develop never gets posted. It's about making it make sense for myself. If it makes sense to my standards, then there is a pervasive sense of cohesion throughout the whole thing.

>>25484271
>>25484216
https://www.boldventurepress.com/the-magic-of-plot-genie/

Read Reverend Insanity
Write Reverend Insanity

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>Immortal Cultivation is repentant enlightenment
>Like tiny grains of salt gathering to form the sea
>Build mountains through repentant enlightenment
>Building a mountain of salt is perhaps the fastest way to reach the heavens

>Each to one another, holding hands
>With everyone at the sea
>Drink salt
>And with the wind, soar

>For that is how one reaches the peak of the mountain
>Like combining all intents (意) turns them colorless
>Embrace all connections and become impermanence
>That is the way to reach the stars.

Timing your writing is hilarious for finding out how little time you actually spend on it.

>>25488480
80% of all writing is sitting and trying to write

I think I’ve developed a pretty interesting progression system. But I have no idea what to do with the story (that isn’t your generic tragic young man slapping arrogant young master’s face and rising to the top all the isekai stories like to make fun of.)

Each person is born with a rank that determines their physical attributes, number of skill slots, and the rank of equipment they can use.
Slaying monsters can yield skill cores. Equipping a skill core grants access to its skill and allows the user to earn mastery points by using it. As mastery points accumulate, the skill gains levels and becomes more powerful. Skills can have both active and passive effects. A Fireball skill, for example, might also grant heat resistance.
Skill cores can be equipped or removed at skill altars. They can also be traded, fused, or sacrificed.
Skill cores can be fused in a cauldron with additional materials. The skills provide the foundation for the resulting skill, while the materials influence its passive effects. Better cauldrons offer higher success rates.
Sacrificing a skill core grants rank points. Rarer and higher level skills provide more points. Once enough rank points have been accumulated, a person can increase their rank, gaining additional skill slots and access to better equipment.
Weapons and apparel can also be upgraded and possess passive effects. A person can only use equipment of their rank or lower.
A person’s birth rank cannot exceed the rank of their highest ranked parent, but the exact result is random. Two B rank parents, for example, could have a child anywhere from F rank to B rank, but never A rank. A higher birth rank provides a significant advantage from the start.
Wealth provides an even greater advantage. Powerful families can buy rare skill cores, equipment, and fusion materials for their children. They can also sacrifice valuable skill cores to raise their children’s ranks. Wealthy families can therefore accelerate their children’s progression far beyond that of ordinary families, provided they consider the child worth the investment.
Rank and skill level have no theoretical ceiling, but the requirements increase sharply with each level. Most people eventually reach a practical limit. Only the exceptionally talented or wealthy can continue to advance.

>>25485320
>Spy Thriller LitRPG
Retarded idea, can't imagine anyone being interested in it.
What exactly is he even spying on? Just make him a member of the bureau of investigations or some shit. Spying implies different polities conducting espionage and you're writing a crime thriller.

>>25488510
Okay now tell a story about a boy who falls in love with a princess, she gets kidnapped, and he goes on a journey to save her and win her hand in marriage (she smiled at him, she's totally into him). He succeeds and they get married and live happily ever after.

>>25488510
The progression story is just a MacGuffin . People will be engaged by characters and story, or not.

I've read (and enjoyed) worm, twig, the gods are bastards, and pith. Most of the mother of learning but I think I got distracted and didn't want to start again. Most recent one I tried was super supportive but got really turned off by the time it was in space. Any recs based on that?

Can't stand chinkshit, litrpg, tropey nonsense.

>>25488688
This is the only time I'm peddling my stuff this month, since you mentioned Worm and Super Supportive: Labors of a Paragon. Based in 2013 US and not China, not litRPG. It's capeshit, though, so it does have tropes associated with that.

I know it's typical plot convention for portal fantasy to get to the secondary world in the first chapter but...
Will readers tolerate waiting 3 chapters for the secondary world to be introduced?
So far if I was to explain my current plot outline and actively worked on chapters it would be
>chapter1: establishes protag is a physically and mentally competent vigilante motivated by justice as well as heavily foreshadows stuff through blatant imagery
>Chapter2: builds suspense and actually shows tracking and detective skills that will be a constant within the story
To be honest chapter 2 is most likely to be totally cut in later drafts. But I will wait on feedback before making that decision final. I think the main reason I really wrote it is because I felt a transition from totally mundane to totally supernatural would be too abrupt without a scene in between to shift the tone.
>Chapter 3: actually making the deal that leads to the protag being sent to the secondary world, as well as a extended fight scene as the "test of worthiness"

Still actively drafting so structural change is very easy at this stage.
While I know in medias res is a thing I would rather not use such a opening just as a key jangle if at all possible.

which technological setting for an op archmage mc do you think would attract more readers?

>WW1 period/late industrial era
>16th-17th century pike and shot er
>18th-19th century muskets and magic era
>19th century pseudo-victorian era

>>25488637
Super Mario LitRPG

>>25488998
Scramble for Africa

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>>25489018

>>25486115
Make the rival a talkin animal of unknown sex. Or a sapient swarm of insects. Or a robot. Or a tree. Or a robot tree.

>>25486115
Is it really that hard to just not be gay?
Just play it straight, lol.

>>25488998
Speaking for myself, I love fully alternative lines of techological development, but I get that's a big ask.

If I was speaking more broadly, I think which ever setting allows you to justify lots and lots of swords the best.
The average fantasy reader might as well be a strong magnet with how attracted they feel towards swords.

>>25489020
Yes. It narrows it down to 1879 to 1936 in a technical sense with a more narrow cutoff being 1914.

>>25489049
there was a race for Africa in the Cold War dominoes period (which we largely lost), and a race for Africa ongoing now (which we're probably losing, along with everything else)
and during the 18th century and Napoleonic Wars the European powers were planting and raiding each other's outposts and colonies

>>25489053
There are other races involving Africa, but the Scramble for Africa is one specific thing from the 1880s to the 1910s

>>25488998
Pseudo-victorian era but find an excuse for swords to still be relevant

>>25488988
The times where I've seen it done decently, it's been as an extended first chapter.
That said, it has to be fast paced and/or a genuine mystery. Otherwise, the overall sentiment is "just get on with it", and many will either skim or skip your chapter. I think a flashback in narration works well with quelling that sentiment; you start in the new world or while 'portalling', then speak about how you got there.
Nevertheless, I don't read many fictions where an extended fight scene is something to look forward to, so your mileage may vary.

>>25488998
Depends with or without a system. With a system, you're more limited because gun skills suck, so the more swords, the better.

>>25489095
I might just have to write two versions.
One that follows chronological order and the other that starts in medias res with the protag then flashing back with the framing device of him explaining how he got there.
Then somehow find beta readers to do A:B testing to see which version they like more.

It's a lot more work but I can't afford to fuck up the beginning arc of the story.

Welp, back to writing for me.
Thanks for the input.

>>25489095
>I don't read many fictions where an extended fight scene is something to look forward to
What is there to look forward to in the stories you typically read?

>>25489112
Fun/comedy, catharsis, mysteries resolved, plot progression

>>25488998
Pike and shot lets you tap into Warhammer Fantasy tropes maybe.
Just don't get sued by GW

>>25489117
Valid.
I suppose I find big climatic fight scenes as narrative turning points cathartic.
The fight that isn't just a fight, you know.

>>25489161
I mean, I don't mind fight scenes; I just don't enjoy 10 pages of two guys punching each other and breaking down buildings. I don't look forward to the fight itself, but perhaps the things we learn or its conclusion.

You guys obsess too much about the pre-isekai part in your stories. The Chinese are ahead of the curve and they barely even mention it anymore or have moved onto a native person in the fantasy realm suddenly awakening their memories from Earth.

>>25489170
I mean I can't think of a single Chinese web novel that I actually have liked , so that doesn't mean anything to me.

I also don't expect any of my potential readers to be Chinese, so what China does couldn't matter any less to my own writing.

>>25489174
Why didn't you like Reverend Insanity?

>>25489180
Chapter one was basically gibberish so I dropped it.

>>25489174
The point isn't that that you're writing for Chinese readers.
The slop genre and the slop readers in the west is down stream of what's read in the east. You're playing catch up with stuff they've already gotten bored to death of.

>>25489192
My inspiration is the pulp stories from America.
Since magaziense are a dying/dead medium it makes sense that the online space has taken it's place.

I have never given a shit about what China does regarding literature. They have very little influence over western tropes or trends at all. Even in web novels Japan is the overwhelming eastern influence of the western market. Not China.

>>25489170
If your story is just "random guy isekais", though it may be popular at the start by virtue of most readers self-inserting as random guy, you just have nothing to work with. Though at least it's miles better than "teenager isekais" or "hospital-bound-since-forever isekais", where you simply can't expect any actual skill or knowledge from them, so what is even the point. Plus you can't self-insert.

is /wng/ for Web Novels in General, or is it for isekai and litrpg only?

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>>25484045
I'm kinda tempted to reboot my slop.

>>25489217
/wng/ centres around RR, so it indirectly puts focus on those genres. You're unlikely to get much response if you're talking space opera, contemporary or capeshit.

>>25489217
In general.
Fantasy is preferred but not required.

>>25489220
Shongma balls

>>25489053
The "Scramble for Africa" refers specifically to the period of European wars of conquest in Africa from the start of the Anglo-Zulu War to either the start of WWI or the end of the Second Italo-Ethiopian War.

I did not say race. I said Scramble.

>>25489217
Mostly RR stuff, and that's probably isekai. But you can always get some (you)s by telling these people to read Worm.

>>25489204
>My inspiration is the pulp stories from America.
Then why are posting here? Go to /wg/

>Even in web novels Japan is the overwhelming eastern influence of the western market. Not China.
The only influence Japan has is shitty harem and coomer tropes

>>25489279
isekai, don't forget that

>>25489204
>They have very little influence over western tropes or trends at all
LMAO
any kind of progression and litrpg is directly or indirectly influenced by 50s/60s Chinese manhwa comics and fantasy serials, nobody ever talked about levels before that
and virtually all the martial arts stuff you see in movies today comes from China by way of Hong Kong cinema
go take a look at fistfights in 70s or even some 90s Hollywood movies, particularly Westerns, you'll see how incredibly slow and stilted they are

>>25489204
RR has a massive chink userbase, who whine loudly about animeshit

>>25489297
Transmigration was before it, japanese copied it (poorly) and called it isekai.

>>25489308
this is disingenuous; isekai is a collection of specific tropes that make it a genre unto itself
hell, that's why "native isekai" is even a thing.

>>25489322
>hell, that's why "native isekai" is even a thing.
It's new, it wasn't even a thing before 2025.

>>25489204
Don't let the weebs discourage you. That said, they are somewhat right about what the median RR used is going to expect, from what I've seen. I'm writing a sci Fi story that doesn't even have mecha in it so I get where you're coming from. There's a much lower ceiling for both of us.

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>>25489333
I like scifi but most scifi always devolves into smut and/or drama. If your scifi is anything like that then kys

>>25489308
>Transmigration was before it, japanese copied it (poorly) and called it isekai.
1. The earliest works to be labeled isekai were not transmigration stories.
2. Transmigration is not an established genre.

>>25489322
1. "Native isekai" is a memetic joke. It is not a thing. It's literally just a troll name for high fantasy.
2. While there are tropes associated with isekai stories, none of them are actually vital to the genre, and isekai stories can vary wildly in tropes.

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Webnovel fooled me into thinking I was a decent writer by bloating my viewer count. Really sad now that I know my real viewer count is not even a hundredth of the numbers shown.