might be an unpopular opinion around here but I like women

>>25491394
You are to read 20 genderbent fmc yuri novels (500 chapters/750,000 words minimum), please give your opinion afterwards

>>25491426
>Webnovel slop by design is meant to be milked for maximum chapter count
Mine isn't :)

>>25491446
That's why it's unpopular

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>You used AI to generate entire chapters and didn't tag your story accordingly. Don't deny it.
What will you do and say when this comment inevitably appears in your RR page?

>>25491406
>genderbent
writing genderbend is for cowards who are too afraid to write regular women. Not doing that.

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>been writing for the past 6 months
>made it to 100k words
>realize that's only 50 chapters

>>25491607
Way to go, anon. Keep it up!

>>25491607
You better have started publishing

>>25491607
if you can sell that, you've got it made
if you can't, well, at least you entertained yourself

>>25491614
I wanted to complete the whole thing but I don't think I'm even halfway done.

I just found out Beware of chicken actually started out in a NSFW section of a forum, does that mean the royal road version has the sex scenes cut out since I don't see it tagged or it just happened to be in that section? What about the kindle version?

>>25491495
And that's a genuine good thing!

>>25491607
cute horse what's her name

>>25491715
They were cut, it's like 1% of the story content like after the wedding so it was trivial to cut them.
It is funny seeing normies react to some of the pinup art though.

>>25491543
Delete the comment and block him

>>25491394
This is a homosexual board, buster.

>>25491394
That's offtopic

I read Bog Standard Isekai. It really is bog standard. Never bad enough to drop outright, never good enough to actually feel anything while reading. There's a bog, it's standard, there's an isekai.

>>25491394
I LOVE women. But for some reason they read my stories and think I'm a misogynist.

>>25491904
I hope whoever came up with "gaze" stubs their toe

>>25491885
More fool I if I did.

Thank you again to the anon who gave me writing feedback yesterday, it unclogged some channels in my brain and I finally understand why certain things I try to do aren't working.

>>25491394
Okay. What RR’s femc books should I read? I like Fake Saint of the Year, I’m a Spider So What, and Bakarina.
Max LV Archmage is too dull, since the mc’s narration isn’t funny enough.

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Wanted to write a plot for my story with a positive argument towards religious houses, just for a change from these "religion house bad, actually" stories that I've seen every now and then, but I'm drawing a blank on how to begin to do that. Can I get some insight on how to make the most of such a premise?

I have a rough idea, but I'm not sure if its enough:
>Peaceful bumfuck nowhere region where people live in constant apathy is barely held together sanity-wise by local religious house offering blessings and teaching from an ancient benevolent goddess. Said blessings also ward off malicious otherworldly creatures.
>Everyone loves said religious house and is considered a high authority among the people.
>Guild of knights, the ones actually in charge, fear that the religious house may steal their influence in the land, so they hire a group of mercenaries to threaten the peaceful lifestyle of the land.
>The religious house is not equip to fight so they get cornered and cannot offer their service. Evil creatures start popping up as a result, making life even worse.
>Knights spread a story about "Religious house doesn't care about you, actually, but WE do!"
>Peaceful land becomes hell on earth due to mercenaries and cosmic horrors running about, so they believe the knights and alienate against the religious house.
>The knights double down by blaming every blight of the land to the religious house as some kind of mastermind working under the shadows.
>The monkey wrench in this whole plan is a single acolyte that was exiled prior to shit going south that is actually capable of fighting back, bringing hope to wherever she goes.

>>25492239
>she
Please start with this next time so I can skip the rest of the post. Thanks in advance!

>>25492239
the best fiction is based on real life
first go read up about how monasteries preserved Western knowledge in the medieval era, and their contributions to society
if you want something really relevant and scholarly, go read up on how the church helped develop the notions of chivalry into the modern international humanitarian laws of war, and eventually human rights
then write your story around that

>>25492239
>Peaceful bumfuck nowhere region where people live in constant apathy is barely held together sanity-wise by local religious house offering blessings and teaching from an ancient benevolent goddess.

Sounds like pretty much like a cult (Cults aren't inherently bad, they just have to follow an unorthodox teachings/god).

You already have the setting right, superstitious knights/hillbillies can create conflict with their local religion based on whose authority is more enforceable/present.

Take advice from this anon and take inspiration from real life small religions/cults >>25492249

Only thing I can say is le bad is having a mary/gary sue save the day.

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I've finally started posting the story I've been working on. It's a hard magic urban fantasy story about the first person to successfully return from the dead trying to discover who murdered him in the first place. The story is set in the 21st century shortly after the return of magic to the world, an event to which civilization has not been responding well. The story can be read on Sufficient Velocity here:

sufficientvelocity.com/threads/dead-hand.158444/

I would have used Spacebattles, but their TOS is a bit restrictive. It will be going up on Royal Road soon as well.

>>25492239
>she
Kys

You may wanna look up a Russian AI TL of your WN's name on this site: https://mirnovel.ru/

Slav fags are auto-translating it and selling EPUBs for rubles.

>>25492239
Kinda cool, but rather than limiting the scope to bumfuck nowhere, you should go all the way and build the whole world around the concept.

A fantasy world is protected by a benevolent god from the forces of evil. However, this god cannot directly influence the world. He can only grant holy magic to the faithful so they may fight in his stead.
The demons, knowing they can't win against God's army in direct combat, hatched a century spanning plan to subvert the religion. They spread their influence into every institution, convincing people that ACTUALLY religion is bad and evil is good, and that people should get to do whatever they want without fear of dogmatic judgement.
They succeed, of course, and the church is driven to near extinction. Society falls into corruption, with demons in disguise holding the highest positions of power, feasting on any soul they wish.
God, with his dwindling powers, decides to make a final gambit by channeling his power into a single acolyte to liberate the world from evil (a messiah, if you will).
This acolyte now has a god given quest to save the world, armed with a Faith System that rewards him or her with power the more faith he/she can inspire in the people.
Whether you want to play the concept straight or make this a misunderstanding comedy by having the MC be a two faced liar, Tanya style, is up to you.

>read murderhobo xianxia novel
>first few chapters include kino like wetting and mpreg
>for the past 15 chapters he's just been going in circles trying to solve a murder and it's getting on my nerves

>>25492363
He came across a village where everyone was pregnant (including men) and killed the fat babyman impregnating everyone for his cultivation
Then he tries to find fat babyman's friends so he can kill them too and gets caught up in a really dumb murder mystery

what the FUCK is wetting and mpreg?

>>25492367
How much of a fag do you have to be to kill THE alternative to women?

>>25492368
>wetting
pissing yourself
>mpreg
pregnancy (male)
>>25492369
he only seeks to kill... reproduction is not a concern for him...

>>25492373
>he only seeks to kill
Spectral Soul?

>>25492374
Feasting on Immortals

>>25492374
Eyesore! Kill!

What are gu?

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>>25492277

>>25492382
Feasting on Immortals is literally the webnovel tho

>>25492387
TRVTH
SHINES

>>25492383
Gu are the essence of heaven and earth.

>>25492393
I'll be commissioning somebody for some proper cover art at some point soon. Thanks for your time and other feedback.

>>25491976
Villainess is an SS+ tier adventurer

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>>25492249
>>25492268
Those are some really good starting points, thank you. I genuinely didn't think of reading religion history and their contributions over the years. Thanks for the specific pointers too, that'll help a lot to start investigating.
>>25492351
I already have set up the basis of the worldbuilding beyond the bumbfuck nowhere region (dubbed in writing as "The Standstill"), as well the two opposing forces (which are more along the lines of cosmic wonders and horrors humanity gave religious names to)... but I can take some from what you wrote alright. The idea of evil spreading influence to downplay its opposition was a given, but reading your piece made me realize it shouldn't limit itself to just evil influencing, but also human's common sense (or lack thereof), like someone making an argument that "evil force exists because good force stirs it in their fighting, if you rid of good force, you rid of evil force."
>>25492380
>The setting as written is too simple which is making at least me just imagine extremely simplistic ideas or extremes probably easily solved by only the MC.
It's more of the former, I didn't go into detail on everything for the sake of not making a wall of text, but believe me when I say there's nuance to everything, or at least that is the plan...
That said, you've put a lot of things into perspective so I can patch things as I go, so thank you.
>How does she do it? Her very presence & virtue itself? The Gary Stu version being the MC being the absolute strongest fighter.
If you want specifics on the MC, I can elaborate a bit. Her journey to being a ray of hope across the land only happens because she is the sole person that does something about things for a time; as those that can fight are either perpetuating the problem or having their hands and feet tied. She is not even the strongest or the most efficient at her capabilities either, she does go through a lot of meaningful mishaps, failures and barely makes it out alive most of the time. She is regarded as a "savior" of sorts solely because there is no one else doing what she is doing.
...But like I said, you've also gave me some perspective, so I can definitely work something out to get things on a different direction, like not making MC's journey a solo one, or give more nuance to everything, like the oppositions to make them less of the same.

I forgot to say
>>25492246
>>25492277
Kek, I knew it in my heart of hearts someone was going to poke about it. Stop being such pussies lmao.
That being said, what's wrong with a FMC according to you guys? Like I predicted the reaction, but I'm honestly curious to know where it comes from.

>>25492321
The best thing about writing non-litrpg non-isekai is nobody wants to read or steal it let alone dirty slavs or pajeets. based.

What's the RR writer's discord nowadays? Seems like immersive ink got nuked

>>25492239
>due to mercenaries and cosmic horrors
>and cosmic horrors
Meh.

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>>25492383

>>25492570
sounds cool as fuck
Guchads are based

>>25492141
All very helpful, thank you again. I'll try another smaller story and post it in a couple days. I really hate that story. That's part of why I posted it: I couldn't tell exactly what made it bad.

>dialogue is quite puerile
This was intentional at first: It was supposed to be retarded and exaggerated to to the point of being funny. Then halfway through I realized it wasn't working and just sprinted through the rest.

>No character there is really living "a life of their own", worth seeing, or something that would be interesting to the reader.
Yes, my biggest weakness. Depicting it at least, I have very detailed, vivid background in my head (I've gotten compliments on the characters for some stream of consciousness introspective stuff I did, so I don't think I'm totally delusional) I'm just not sure how to "slice" it into words and character-experience woven with narration.

>>25492532
I do this and mine is in fact on the site. They just use a scraper.

>>25491696
>Also, for recommendation, Quest for Immortality/immortality through Array Formations

> Inquiry into Longevity (asking about longevity / Any other name this novel has)

That is legit another name for Inquiry into Longevity lol, but thanks for the new website to look for novels

>>25491687

At the time I started reading the novel, the most up to date AI website was like 300 chapters behind the raw, but I just checked it and now it is only 2 chapters behind.

>>25492321
If they stole mine I would be amazed, considering that it's free.

>>25492666
Oh for some reason I thought Inquiry into Longevity was another book called I shall be everlasting in a world of immortals (i thought it was kind of boring). I guess I would suggest Mao Ni's books if you haven't read them yet Nightfall, Way of Choices and The Path Toward Heaven. Also Super Dimensional Wizard/Warlock Apprentice

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Greetings, fellow Daoists.

>>25492526
/lit/ loves men

>>25491976
Vexations of a Shut-In Vampire Princess

>>25491904
The FMC doesn't lust over chad enough

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The feeling of writing webnovels with the full knowledge that you must retardproof your prose and jingle the keys for the readercattle

Despite the fact your prose is already pretty simple by your own view, and yet still somehow requires retardproofing further

I'm starting to feel like constantly repeating information is legitimately necessary and not just a padding method

>>25492249
Me again, I took the time on reading on chivalry and Christianity's contributions to the concept back in the middle ages and it did give me an idea to make something out of it, also picking up on what anon here >>25492380 mentioned.
Rather than making a guild of knights that is malicious right from the get-go, I believe it would make for a more interesting narrative to have the knights, fearing for their glory and influence over the people being taken away from, to resort to shady methods to make a point for themselves such as virtually threatening civilians using a proxy and robbing them from their warding services from the religious house in an attempt to frame the competition... only for those methods to backfire, resulting in the knights losing the plot of themselves as they damage control one problem after another, ultimately seeking dominance for the sake of it and regardless of the cost and their prior ideals. That would also give me an excuse for an internal conflict between them and have an protagonist out of them.

That would be in a step in the right direction, no?

>>25492941
note: somehow this is the only way for a young white male author to have a chance at real success and is in fact the best option by far

>>25492941
Clarity is all that's required. You write in a way that can be easily followed and there's plenty of room to branch out. Throw in the occasional five dollar word, and if you're doing it right, people will be able to understand what it means from context. And if someone still complains, your other non-retarded readers will drag them for it. Bam, everyone wins.

>>25492605
Come to think of it, if they scraped mine, it would probably be illegal for them to host it.

>>25493060
If they did, try to find whatever would be a criminal offense and just rat the chapter out to the Russian feds. I was half considering slipping in something pro-Ukraine (I am not pro-Ukraine) purely to spite them.

I'm all for fan translations but those niggers gotta ask and not try to profit off of it first.

>>25492380
>Instead of evil cult we almost have evil atheists
yes because that's real life

>>25492514
>religion history and their contributions over the years
Western law as you know it is virtually founded on the bones of Christianity
it's very educational as a study of ethics, comparative religion, law, AND literature to study the differences in religions and how laws differ

for example, the legal and religious view on prostitution
Christianity regards it as a moral sin, therefore most Western nations banned it, and even when legalised it is hidden
Buddhism and Shinto does not, therefore in Japan it was usually legal, and even today although officially banned, the ban is more or less not enforced
Modern atheism, which combines Aleister Crowley's credo, "Do as thou wilt..." with modern Wicca's rider "...if you harm none", favours or even takes pride in prostitution under the principle of "willing buyer, willing seller", which is the reason why those Western countries which legalise prostitution have done so
and under Islam, prostitution is forbidden but man is amply provided with, to borrow an ASOIAF phrase, rock wives, but also salt wives that he can take from slaves if he is too poor to take a rock wife (An-Nisa 25). which is the position used by the likes of ISIS and Hamas to justify what they do.

shitposting aside, I won't dictate which ethical stance you ought to take, you can evaluate them and see for yourself, all I'm saying is you *should* perform said evaluation before jumping in with tropes

>she is the sole person that does something
even ASOIAF, otherwise a famously bleak story, gives each pretender a coterie of well-meaning allies

>>25492946
>have the knights, fearing for their glory and influence over the people being taken away from
you can if you like
I myself am writing a story in which there are clear villains as well, because such is reality

but having nuanced secondary enemies marks a more mature plot, and a more mature view of the world. for example, people who are intelligent and/or powerful who just have a tiny piece of naivete that people will do the right thing and not abuse the huge amount of power he's going to give them
James Holden in Leviathan Wakes is a great example.

What's the term for how japanese writers overdramatize a profession to the point where they look superhuman?

>>25493233
Romanticism?

>>25493266
Yes, that's the word.

>>25493066
>He thinks Russian authorities are enforcing US copyright while getting killed by US made missiles.

>>25493066
has anyone who has ever written a webnovel been able to successfully trap scrapers via writing seditious shit in their wns that’d get said scrapers arrested in their third world country?

>>25493233
The manga genre is called Shokugyo but that literally just means profession.

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>>25492276
>first character of novel is an em dash

>>25493339
>Be anon on literature board
>still have zero reading comprehension
He didn't say copyright, he said writing shit that is illegal in Russia. While it would be an easy step for them to prevent such an attack, by adding another step to their AI flow that checks that whatever they translated isn't illegal where they publish it; they probably don't have it as of now. I'm not sure if being pro-Ukraine or criticizing the government is actually illegal there, don't think they got to thay point yet, but I know a few things that are.
There's "promoting suicide", so if you have your isekai MC go "wow, so glad I died, my life was so shit, and now I'm in this amazing magical world, people back on Earth should definitely kill themselves", it would make it illegal back there, just like the anon wanted. Same goes for "LGBT propaganda", so you should put some fanservice of girls kissing just to protect your content from getting stolen by those damn Russians

>>25493404
>he thinks Russian authorities will read a random novel, one among hundreds of thousands of stolen slop, and will care enough about the content to take down the whole website.
If that were the case then all the Russian pirated comic books and movies websites would have been nuked to kingdom come ages ago.
Furthermore,
>he thinks Russians doesn’t watch lesbian porn.
lol

>>25492145
Glad to hear that. Because I wad about to say "that's AI writing."

>>25493404
>writing shit that is illegal in Russia
Look at Girkin, they can write a lot of shit without being gulag'd for it
The gulag threshold is just lower than in the West, that's all, it's not zero

>>25492239
The problem is you want to say "religion good" just because you want to be contrarian. You don't actually have any positive experiences with religion to write about.
>>25492543
It's useless. No one talks unless they're begging for shoutouts.
>>25493233
Hyperbole.

>>25493474
>shoutouts
I'd be begging for beta readers instead

>>25492543
The Writing Well
Immersive Ink died because the mods were entangled with Shadow Light Press.

>>25493514
>taking somewhat more of dialectic route is more interesting instead of pure negation/contrarianism per anons reasons for the story
Or in other words, have your plot and/or dialogue show the different advantages and disadvantages, and levels of extremism and conservatism of each opposing viewpoint, before stating your case for one or the other (if at all)

I absolutely agree

>>25493516
>I will say though that of all the free models though Deepseek does usually produce a bit less slop with more prompt coherence with a low chance of triggering safety violations. Not nearly enough though
Though you say that though, I still think though that any Ai use for text generation though is cheating and rips the heart and soul out of language though
Though

>>25492666
>>25492844
Read My Longevity Simulation.

>>25493559
It good at the start but I lost interest. Author kept clinging to worthless characters that nobody cares about.
MC was intelligent, but then became retarded. He kept making questionable decisions and acted smug about it as if they were good decisions...
There also were far too many subplots that the author just forgot about.

>>25493394
how many angry messages would I get if I opened a new novel with a message like
>"Here's the first chapter of the novel you asked for: "
and then just made it clear a character prompted ChatGPT for a story?

>>25493623
Why do you think anyone cares so much? They'll just close the tab and carry on. AI is everywhere, it has no outrage value left

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>>25493630
It still does though in some areas. This company is getting dragged because the chink company they contracted to print their Rainbow Six tabletop game sent them fake photos and they didn't even check before reposting it to their socials and blog.

>>25493657
>chink company they contracted to print their Rainbow Six tabletop game sent them fake photos
Lmao
Yeah and that's why even we chinks think twice before ordering stuff from China companies, and even then only from trusted companies
When I custom-ordered a limited run sometime ago I didn't bother surfing through Taobao or whatever, I went to a company that a friend had been using for years and I made my staff review every piece of product before accepting delivery let alone informing my customers that I had gotten stock in

>they didn't even check before reposting
That's on them
Harsh but we have to be extra vigilant with Ai now

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>>25492239
Have the protagonist fall on hard times and get helped by the church, bonus points if you if you throw red hearings to lad the reader into believing you are doing the religion bad actually.

For example.
>Protagonist is a struggling adventurer
>He is prejudiced against the church for some reason but in an act of desperation goes to it for help.
>The church is an ancient institution, it's still powerful and prevalent but fading for some reason.
>The priest recognizes his talents and offers him a job as a church-sanctioned adventurer/demon hunter.
>Over the course of the story he and a party of fellow hunters go on adventures slowly peeling back a conspiracy by dark forces is behind the fading of the church.

Of course don't make the church all morally spotless and infallible or you'll come across as preachy. Just in general avoid preaching nobody likes that. And try to make the faith unique not just Christianity with the serial number rubbed off. Research what actually constitutes a religion (Philosophy/Theology/Myths/Rituals etc) and try to craft a believable one or your story will fall apart.

>>25493657
It's on a very different level when talking about a commercial product, vs somebody's free shitty web drivel. The latter is quite a bit easier to ignore

>>25493668
>Just in general avoid preaching nobody likes that
this
even as a Christian I counsel against it, because it creates unrealistic expectations of the Church, or of God, and when those unrealistic expectations are shattered, many Christians become disillusioned

>>25493668
>>25493683
>church
Stopped reading right there

>>25493066
>try to find whatever would be a criminal offense and just rat the chapter out to the Russian feds
My entire WN basically mocks authoritarian shitholes.
I would be amazed if they somehow managed to scrape it, and sanitize it enough not to get thrown into prison. That would genuinely take a hardcore amount of work and it would also change what type of a WN it is.

>>25493464
>Look at Girkin
Girkin is literally in prison, anon.

>>25493748
yeah but he said a lot of shit before he reached that point, as did the Sausage Man, and even Fighterbomber still (I think)
the game living under a dictatorship is to know how far is too far

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>>25491377
I keep coming across random stuff that has no followers and keep wondering what chance I have if this person didn't have any success

>>25493765
>MC faces the viewer
>cultivation
>"dao"
It's simple - just write something more original.

>>25493765
buy an ad, 0.5 stars

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>>25493776
That's literally not my slop; it's just random stuff I came across from an updated page. Same with pic related.
I'd feel devastated if be writing it; that's 240K words, and it has a total of 2.5K views

>>25493786
I'm not running out of 0.5 stars any time soon, keep them coming, retard.

>>25493765
To be fair a ton of these are written like shit, not advertised, and at least 1/3 of them that I've examined are just ai slop.

>>25493803
how should I market my novel to make it clear that it's not AI slop?

>"Swear blind on me ma it's not Ai, fa m."

>>25493814
Write well, and *actually don't use AI*
Also I'm not an expert

>>25493814
write like an ESL—LLMs are better at english than americans

>>25493803
>To be fair a ton of these are written like shit
That would imply writing quality has anything to do with success on RR.

>>25493819
Lolno. *Some* ESLs do.

>>25493820
Everything I've read on RR that succeeded is written extraordinarily well in the way that it needs to be. Not to say they would have succeeded without marketing, advertisement, &c.

>>25493826
what?

>>25493828
I can't read
I read LLM -> ESL

>>25493836
what?

>>25493765
most of these are complete slop that is dumped on the site all at once with no advertising whatsoever and often it's AI slush

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>we have reverend insanity at home

>>25493885
0.5 stars

>>25493885
Disgusting
>>25493893
Seconded.

>>25492276
Read what you've posted, enjoyed it, will keep reading it. I'd recommend redoing the First line a little because phrasing it like a hard cut made me think I'd skipped a chapter by accident.

>>25492276
0.5 stars——buy an ad

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> Next Chapter: 2026-08-27 18:00 ( 24 minutes )
I'm so excited!!!!

>>25493885
I think this is ai, maybe ai translated

>find a novel
>really liking it
>author finishes book 1
>starts uploading multiple chapters of a preview for a different, completely unrelated work
>no continuation in sight
ah oof aah

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>Clara Casewell, Knightess to the King
kiiiiinooooo

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>>25493814
>make tons of typos, grammar errors, tense mistakes
>feel like a fucking retard and a hack
>but at least everyone knows AI wouldn't make mistakes of this kind
Cursed? Blessed? Blursed?

>>25493885
>middle-eastern slopper loves evil and senseless violence and pointless gore
Why is this so common? Are you telling me we are all equal?

>western slopper loves whiteknighting and getting cucked by authority

>>25493765
>>25493786
That is simply how some of this stuff goes.

You could try and post across multiple websites and forums, post ads, beg on discords, or bot in hopes to hit the trending/rising star on RR-like websites to cultivate an audience or you can accept that this is simply a hobby and be happy writing slop.

Keep in mind that some ideas are simply too niche to ever snowball into super large audiences, which is why AO3 exists

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I don't want to edit.
I just want to post fancy words and create interesting scenes.

>think a chapter is good
>schedule it for release
>read through it one last time on the night before it goes up
>it's actually pure dogshit and requires extensive rewrites in the middle of the night to make any sense
Why are my eyes opened only when it's almost too late?

> Be me
> Read too many books.
> Now have impossible standards
> Now can read only very niche categories
> categories require the element of surprise to work properly.

> Realize that the only path forward is begin writing books for myself.
> Can't write mysteries because i know what will happen.
> Can't make myself laugh because i am not demented (yet).
> try writing anyway
> Standards are too high... i am too dog shit for this.

>>25492374
One who is truly strong can do both. See: Popeye.

>>25494095
peak, this was a fun one

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Anyone here read The Wandering Inn? It's getting physical editions soon-ish.

>>25493814
AI is incapable of consistency. if your story remains sensical 2 pages in, congrats.

>enter thread
>scroll up a few seconds
>several IP-blocked posts
How does /wng/ manage to do it?

>>25494015
wish people were this excited for my scheduled releases...

>Start story medias res to hook quickly
>Shortly after, flashback to how the situation started
I know this gets memed on a lot and I've seen people here saying they hate it, but do WN readers actually dislike it? It's quite common in tradpub.

>>25494821
I dislike it
Just figure out how to deliver the exposition for his past in present time. 95% of the details arent as important as you think, probably, and flashbacks make the story feel paused

>>25494821
It's memed on because it's a literary device that works and is thus used somewhat regularly.
It's like the novel version of an MMO starting you at max level for a bit. JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE LOOK RETARD AURA LOOK IT'S AURA JINGLE JANGLE

Semi related to >>25494821, how do you all feel about frame stories?

>>25494821
The thing I'm currently writing does this. It's fun! I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other when reading. It can be done well, it can be done poorly. I prefer it when a situation is readable and you can sort of guess how we got here once the story starts, but buckwild "I can't possibly imagine how the start of the story connects to the rest of it" can work too

>>25494821
I like it, as long as the flashbacks aren't longer than the main storyline

>>25494916
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_story

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I got motivated enough to finish a Chapter 1 for my story! That said, it's only 2.3k words long and it doesn't tell everything it needs to know for the story, I'll tell the main premises in tidbits with each entry, cause otherwise I'm never finishing "Chapter 1." Would this be a good approach? I figured I could do something like this based on some of the WNs I've read.

I also don't feel confident on sharing it yet because I feel seasoned anons will skin my ass ass for such an awful writing... but eventually I might share it, when I clean this up into a more presentable, I haven't even proofread it yet.

>>25494978
> I feel seasoned anons will skin my ass ass for such an awful writing
This is the only way to improve imo. it feels like shit at first but it's necessary. People telling you that your stuff is shit is a gift.

>>25494990
its only needed if you don't already know it and are the delusional overconfident sort
otherwise it's a motivation killer with no upside. I honestly just recommend not posting your work for like 300k words till you have the basics somewhat understood

>>25494978
>seasoned anons will skin my ass
They will, but mostly because they're cynical, opinionated, and jobless. It's actually great practice to learn to pierce through the sort of criticism that works for you vs the kind that doesn't.

>>25495001
IDK, every learning process I've been through has always benefitted from external feedback loops.

>>25494990
I don't deny that, don't get me wrong, I just don't feel prepared to be thrown into the meat grinder just yet. I'd like to polish myself a bit on my own and then get told my writing shit knowing I put everything I could do on it; that way critiques can come out more accurately too. And now that you mention it, I do find strange I personally feel more willing to be throw into the meat grinder on writing as opposed to my main niche and the one I'm generally more successful at (keyword, "successful", not "good"), which is drawing.
>>25495003

>It's actually great practice to learn to pierce through the sort of criticism that works for you vs the kind that doesn't.
Hearing that gives me a bit of relief, knowing at least some people consider dismissing some criticism as a sane practice. I do struggle a lot with that, trying to take everything I'm told into account, even if it strays from my own visions or leads to contradictions, so being told "some criticism may not be compatible" eases the process of analyzing them a bit.

>>25494821
>record scratch
No

>>25495009
everyone is different, but I've seen great success by keeping my improvement process grounded and internal. the outside noise fucks with my head. I don't need other people telling me what I did wrong when its almost always obvious
now that I'm a big name and I get a lot of comments I honestly think most feedback is god awful and actively harmful. don't listen to comments they aren't intelligent and invested enough. MAYBE listen to overall trends but not even then, you'll see people complain about cliffhangers in huge quantities but that shit works and it means theyre engaged. Just as 1 example
but there is no single right way to approach creativity and improvement
if you really want feedback get it from a writing group you trust, I guess. i didn't though, I just used common sense and wrote and read a lot

>>25495011
it's imperative you learn that a most criticism can actually be boiled down to "it's not my preference so it's wrong." Anons usually have practice masking this because we're used to voicing our opinions on the internet and presenting them more grandiosely than others. Your average webnovel comment will be more akin to "What!!!! What do you mean [Character] did this and not what I would have done?! Bad writing!!!!"

>>25495023
Ahh I see. I'm still starting out and any feedback I get helps me a lot. Both in finding actual issues I'm somewhat blind to and in developing the sense >>25495003 mentioned. It helps me understand what people like and why, even if what they're directly saying is totally retarded. Congratulations on the success btw.

>>25495094
>and a slippery slope to an ivory tower.
well I do think you need to live in an ivory tower as an author. the noise of the masses isnt something worth listening to, only your own critical analysis (your careful discernment of what the oinking below means)

>>25495094
>blithing

Genuinely annoys me in progression stories when they make the protagonist start aged like 11 and then quickly make them able to beat up adults.
Like what was the point, we're stuck with the kid unless you timeskip but they're not held back by their age in any meaningful way.

>>25495053
This.
A good cliffhanger is great. But if every chapter is a cliffhanger, or worse, if the characters just got a huge win and suddenly there's a twist and the rug gets pulled from under them and it's left as a cliffhanger, you feel cheated.

so in webnovels how are plots usually resolved? since it seems like the end is never in sight, the main baddie is never defeated, that sort of thing

>>25495209
For the ones that are competent this is like asking how plots are resolved in soap operas.
You resolve a plot and keep moving, the characters are the draw. Ofc this involves planning or at least thinking ahead.
Alternatively you chinese it and ascend realms/tower levels (bad ones do this to avoid writing characters)

>>25495209
depends on the story. There is usually a vague end-goal, just not one achievable in the near future. Instead it tends to go through arcs kinda like shonen. The story tackles smaller problems and if it's competently written they're usually woven together in a not too jarring way and foreshadowed from way before.

>>25495166
>but they're not held back by their age in any meaningful way
Children have significantly less social capital than adults. Which is why you'll often see characters like that get an older cut out to drag along with them.

Contrary to what shitty writers would have you believe, being the best at killing shit is generally not the most useful skill in any particular setting.

Also, 11-year olds can't engage in romantic or sexual relationships in most settings either for ethical, legal, developmental, or practical reasons (e.g. even if the character in question is a 40-year old man inside, if all their potential partners are 11-year olds with no grasp of sex or romance, that doesn't help them).

>>25495209
>so in webnovels how are plots usually resolved?
the... same way plots are resolved in a normal book?? make the end in sight? make the main baddie get defeated? ther ya go

>>25495209
A lot of web novels don't actually have a main baddie and the ones that do often have them just be a looming presence that isn't really dealt with until the final arc with maybe some brief appearances before then with arcs before then centered on minions and allies to the big bad, opportunists, or random other threats.

It's actually fairly rare to get a persistent villain with effectively their own B plot through the entire story in web novels unless they're political/military dramas or stories about chasing down a roving villain or lower stakes works where a villain can't actually be "dealt with" permanently because laws are a thing so plots are generally about foiling their individual endeavors.

And honestly this makes perfect sense. You either figure out how to deal with or avoid things making your life shittier. Being unable to do either either requires gross incompetence or very specific circumstances.

>>25494708
I've heard good things but never touched it.

>>25495253
It's incredibly worth the investment in time. It will also ruin every other LitRPG and isekai you ever read. And most fantasy stories too. It has some of the highest highs of any story I've read with so few lows it's insane. Audiobooks up to Hell's Wardens (with Andrea's voice) are also peak. New narrator sucks ass.

Any recs like super supportive? I like academy superhero stuff and having a ton to read even if the slower pace and slice of life amount is a bit too high for me.

>>25495260
I'm a villain but my identity was immediately exposed

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>>25495276
thanks for the rec I'll take a gander

>>25495280
https://fucknovelpia.com/novel/i-m-a-villain-but-my-identity-was-immediately-exposed

>>25495281
thanks for the spoonfeed I was actually having trouble finding anything

>>25495276
it's shit

>>25494734
>>several IP-blocked posts
What are those?

>>25495233
So why include the part about being a kid at all, retard?

>>25494708
Yeah , I am up to date with public chapters. Too long for physical , pass.

>>25494821
>we're starting right from the action instead of the boring shit!
>EXCEEEEPT we won't, we're going to the boring shit now lol
sucks!

>>25495446
>it gets good after 200 chapters of boring shit!
sucks!

>>25495441
kids have a lot of time to read and they like reading about kids being badass and maybe they can get their hands on mommy's credit card and subscribe

>>25495217
>>25495229
>The story tackles smaller problems
>>25495250
>A lot of web novels don't actually have a main baddie and the ones that do often have them just be a looming presence that isn't really dealt with until the final arc with maybe some brief appearances before then with arcs before then centered on minions and allies to the big bad, opportunists, or random other threats
hm I see
gotta admit, I generally do not read or watch episodic stuff
I don't much like TV series because of this
and I tend to like my series like I like my women, short and tight

>>25495250
>A lot of web novels don't actually have a main baddie and the ones that do often have them just be a looming presence that isn't really dealt with until the final arc
Because if there's a big baddie who makes an appearance and the MC doesn't instantly slaughter him, winnie readers will go apeshit over how the protagonist is a lame, incompetent loser and story is disappointing

>>25495583
>gotta admit, I generally do not read or watch episodic stuff
Be careful when using "episodic". For most media "episodic" means it is a serial narrative, but for TV in particular, episodic usually means the series *isn't* a serialized, thus making episodic a contranym.

What you said isn't really clear here.

>>25495586
You've got that backwards. If there's a big baddie who makes an appearance and they don't instantly slaughter the MC, winnie readers will go apeshit over how they're weak and/or incompetent and therefore the MC is even worse by comparison for not being able to deal with them.

>>25495607
wrong

>>25495586
>>25495607
It makes no sense for the main antagonist to show up early on in the story but if he does then either he must be killed by the mc or he must kill the mc

>>25495613
There was an anon in a past thread telling how he had his MC lose to the main villain in their first encounter and the readers hated it. Of course they did. Nobody wants to see their self-insert FAIL

>>25495619
Isn't that normal even in shounenshit? The rival is always stronger than the protagonist, often the protag isn't even on his radar except as a persistent irritation. And the main antagonist is so strong that he makes the rival look almost pathetic right up to the point where they defeat him, possibly together, with either the power of friendship or a training montage.

what the FUCK is a shounen?

>>25495641
low quality power fantasy literature for children. like web novels.

>>25495644
the web novels I read feature swearing, sex, violence, drug use, breaking the law, etc. sometimes even multiple of them at the same time.

>>25495641
>what the FUCK is a shounen?
strictly speaking it means "teen boy"
colloquially it's used similarly to how we say "YA" to specify a genre, and the tropes particular to that genre, which is aimed at a particular age group
and on these boards of course it's used pejoratively in the same way "YA" is

>>25495644
>>25495645
>>25495648
CAN YOU RETARDS STOP REPLYING TO THE SPAMMER WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

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>>25495663
Anon? Everything good at home?

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

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>>25495646
please. people read something like 1% lifesteal and act like it's the worst thing they ever read.. naruto has casual mass-murder, kidnappings, child abuse, family members betraying and slaughtering each other, etc. it's bottom-of-the-barrel generic shounenshit where half the plots are resolved by the power of frienship and it is still a hundred times edgier than most the shit people pretend is edgy these days. webnovels are flaccid as fuck, and when they do get a little edgy it's just fag shit like 1% where they lean into "shock" content absent the emotional component that makes this kind of stuff actually shocking.

>>25495678
>naruto
stopped reading right there

>>25495678
some people really need to read The Wandering Inn.

>>25495683
I'm not into bug-fucking

>>25495678
>casual mass-murder, kidnappings, child abuse, family members betraying and slaughtering each other
but enough about the Bible

>webnovels are flaccid as fuck, and when they do get a little edgy it's just fag shit like 1% where they lean into "shock" content absent the emotional component
whaddya expect? it's written for man-children or actual children
it's like monster of the week Power Rangers but with gore and atrocities
and yeah nothing matters because no reader sits still long enough to wait for a proper relationship to develop

>>25495678
>naruto has casual mass-murder, kidnappings, child abuse, family members betraying and slaughtering each other
None of it is portrayed as good or desirable.

Naruto is actually very fascist. Mangaka was very open about his children are the future thesis.

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>>25495699
Do you have something to say or are you just brainrotted?

>>25495684
Luckily for you, neither is the author!

>>25495700
NAYRT but fuck, dude, every pair of mommies and daddies who've ever raised children all think that children are the future, or else they wouldn't have fucking bothered, so what are you saying, everyone who's ever bred in the history of mankind are all fucking fascists?

maybe your parents shouldn't have been "fascists", then we wouldn't be graced by your absolutely scintillating literary fucking analysis

>>25495701
wrong
https://wanderinginn.com/2020/03/21/mating-rituals-pt-2/

>>25495714
Yes, I'm aware of that chapter. Still quite angry about Ryoka not fucking the sexy vampire and then immediately turning around and pity-fucking an ugly drake twice her age.
It's not really a necessary chapter for the plot, though. You can just skip it. If this is keeping you from the story, lol, lmao

>>25495722
>he actually read this shit
kinda impressive, ngl frfr

>>25495713
>everyone who's ever bred in the history of mankind are all fucking fascists?
It's truly a redpill moment when you realize that yes, yes they are.
By working selflessly towards the future, you are committing a microfascism.

>>25495739
>By working selflessly towards the future
lel, I'm a NEET wasting my time reading web novels

>>25495761
junkies live the same shitty lifestyle but at least they get to get high

>>25495761
The actual horseshoe theory is that accelerationism is just fascism in a dress.

Fascism is the goal and accelerationism is the process.

>>25495675
Somebody should write a novel with Spectral Soul as a protagonist.

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>>25494708
WNs will never produce a necromancer as cool as Pisces, I'm afraid.

>>25495714
I skipped this chapter and missed nothing
>>25495722
It has to be an elaborate troll giving Erin the best het ships and Ryoka the best yuri ships, only to give Erin a yuri pairing and Ryoka a het pairing.

>>25495727
honestly, the antinium lesbians washing and painting each other is absolute peak.

>>25495678
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.

>>25495885
>Naruto
stopped reading right there

>>25495727
Pirateaba fucking sucks at writing sex, but I don't begrudge an author for trying. What I do begrudge is how fucking terrible every single fucking romance subplot is. From the weirdass Olesm/Ceria/Zevara triangle in v2 to all the current shit going on, I'm half convinced Pirateaba is single and aroace because there's no way a human who has felt emotions while dating/banging writes relationships like this.

>>25495892
Why did you reply to me? Do you think I know what the fuck a Olesm/Ceria/Zevara is?
I only read bad web novels, not completely trash ones.

>>25495894
You provided a convenient avenue for me to vent.
Also, TWI is quite good, besides the romances. better than 99.9% of the slop out there.

>>25495897
you have brain damage

>>25495900
How would you know if you haven't read it? Perhaps you should give it a try, if only to be capable of better arguing with me :^)

>>25495897
>that 0.1 % is Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi

>>25495897
>TWI
>better than 99.9%
Are you the fag who was spamming /sffg/ with TWI shit a few years back?

>>25495897
I would agree with that, at least until the palace of fates arc which was in my opinion irredeemable slop. Haven't read since then

>>25495905
Ain't gonna lie, haven't read this one, but I'm not against the idea of an ace-attorney inspired narrative. Is it as charming as ace attorney 1-3 and DGS?

>>25495910
>until the palace of fates arc
It's incredible what not having to wait and binge-reading this arc does for it. True One Piece Dressrosa effect right there.

>>25495916
I don't read gookshit.

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>>25495897
>femc
>good story
You may only pick one.

>>25495949
I'm sorry you can't project anon, maybe SoloLeveling is more to your liking

>>25495969
Mc turned into a simp in season 2. I will not be watching the third season.

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>>25495985
>season 2
>getting that far
And to that anon worried about people criticizing his work earlier, this is what we mean when we say most people's opinions are worthless.

So like. If I want to share my wn idea do I do it here or do I go to the writing general?

>An immortal being could not be free. No choice would be meaningful, because all could be deferred. Life itself would become the only value, sadistically affirmed by the background mortality of others/Anxiety about accidental death and assassination would fill the mind, dissolving any capacity to think of anything (or anyone) else. One notices this tendency in the company of people who are trying to live forever. Knowing that we are mortal is what allows us to take risks, even little ones such as leaving the house to get coffee or pick up a kid from school; If we really had everything to lose at every moment, we would curl up in a ball.

How would Fag Yuan refute this?

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After like three months of scraping with no backlog of chapters, I finally worked my way back up to a two week buffer without missing a single scheduled upload.
It feels hollow. I struggled and straight up didn't have fun trying to juggle IRL and serialization for so long, and all it took to fix was like three weeks of being left the fuck alone. I was going to try and do more IRL things too and now I'm thinking I just don't have the capacity to do everything I want in life. My own mortality is grabbing my face with both hands and making me look it in the eyes.

>>25496111
I despise RI but even I can tell you that this has already been thought over time and time again
Why do you think xianxia focuses so heavily on personal power? To be immortal and free you must be not only ageless but also so powerful and resilient that nothing can kill you or stop you from living as you wish.

>>25495441
>So why include the part about being a kid at all, retard?
You're either complaining that a character is shown facing adversity or complaining that a character isn't romantically/sexually active.

Not sure which, but either way, you're fucking stupid.

Writers show characters as kids because they want to show the character as a kid, because they want to show the character's growth over time, because they want to show the character exploring their place in the world as a child, because they want to explore the character's interpersonal relationships as a child, because they want the character to be underestimated, or any others of an infinite host of valid reasons. Also, to establish the childhood friend character that they'll eventually fuck.

>>25496111
What benefits are you offering?

>>25496111
>No choice would be meaningful, because all could be deferred
>Getting up to go to the bathroom isn't meaningful because you can just shit yourself later
A person being immortal doesn't mean they don't change, doesn't mean the world doesn't change, and most importantly doesn't mean opportunities can't be missed.

>>25496171
>to establish the childhood friend character that they'll eventually fuck.
I will drop any story that has this.

The reasons you listed are mostly irrelevant when the character is actually a 1000 year old soul from another world transported to a new body. This is just an advanced body possesion, the 100 chapters of retarded slice of life and drama shit are not necessary.

>>25496111
Retard.

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>>25496149
I already did, and I still fell behind. Didn't even finish editing manuscripts for publication like I intended to, either. Now that I'm back in my groove I think I can start working on them again but it's incredibly frustrating that I don't have more energy and focus than I do (even with abusing caffeine).

It's all the more painful because I know once I just do it, the books will be done forever and I can put them behind me. But it's a hill I just can't seem to get over, even though I feel like I should.

I'm definitely planning a hiatus for after this arc wraps up, though. It'll have a very satisfying conclusion for 90% of the plot threads I've created and I'll have a good twist and some dangling threads to keep readers interested without torturing them with too much of a cliff, so I'll have time to really polish the next arc's outline and maybe even work on a shorter unrelated fiction.

Just gotta keep grinding...

>>25494821
The issue is that 99% of stories on RR have a similar starting structure, so you want to go through the motions ASAP until people start caring about your character. Only once you give a shit does flashback or backstory make sense. Reading a droll or even action-packed scene about someone you haven't yet 'met' is boring.

>>25496336
The issue is that 99% of authors on RR can't write.

haven't written a single thing all month. Ended a story and while I had all these ideas for the next one I haven't found the drive to sit down and actually start it.

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>>25496133
>My own mortality is grabbing my face with both hands and making me look it in the eyes.
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair.

Two options:
>if you have readers, ask them to pay you for this effort
>if you don't have readers, slow the fuck down
It's that simple.
I am not the one to talk, but still.

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Why is there no discord for this novel?

>>25494708
Its decent. But kvetching about modern politics is beyond cringe. Really ruins the immersion.

>>25496359
i finished publishing something big in february, had finished writing it in december, haven't found the drive to properly get into anything else since. I've started... what, 6 stories since? And none of them get past 20k words. It's like I hit a wall and say "nah, this is shite" and stop. First time in my life it happens, ain't sure what the hell to do. I still write every fucking day I just can't focus on one thing.

I want some creative opinions here. I'm working on the ending chapters of my current WN. The MC is about to trek into a big-ass evil rape dungeon to reach the BBEG to stop a big-ass ritual. At the same time, some major side characters (Who have all had their own POV chapters that readers ostensibly liked, one became a frequent commenter's favorite character) will be following behind to deal with some secondary villains in a separate part of the dungeon.

Well over 85% of the story, however, has been entirely from the first person perspective of the lead. It is largely done in a character study context and really getting into his head.

Do you think a chapter should be dedicated to specifically what the side characters are doing as an alt-POV since it'd also give some last bits of characterization to the secondary villains, or should the final ~5-6 chapters be entirely focused on the MC since it's the end of his story? I'm leaning towards the latter but I don't know if it's really be a bother for people to not get any solace on the former. Worst case I might make it a Patreon-exclusive extra chapter. But some second opinions would be nice.

>>25496813
Name of the WN?

>>25496824
I'll be posting about it when it ends in a couple weeks, don't worry :)

>>25496828
This is enough for me to find out who you are, enjoy your 1-star review!

>>25496813
>Patreon-exclusive extra chapter
No, god, if it's as important as what you're making it out to be. Maybe make it patreon-early, but not exclusive.
It could be pretty jarring to get a new POV so late into the story, so having the extra chapter on the side is probably not a bad idea.

>>25496844
My Patreon is free, to be clear (Waiting until the story is over to put an epub for sale on it), but yeah you're right. The last alt-POV from any of those side characters was a few weeks ago.

I can't do Patreon-early unfortunately because I am Pants-ing hard after getting sick killed my buffer.

And the thing is I don't know how important it'd actually be. I feel like right now it's a case of just... do the chapters focused on the MC, get to the end, and if people want a chapter on the alt-POV I can write up one afterwards since I'll be taking a break anyway and I can dedicate a lot more time to something interesting there.

>>25496853
Like to be clear on why I don't know how important I think it'd really be for the reader: I've done it multiple times before where I've made it known shit is always happening outside of the MC or the reader's perspective. It's not necessarily abnormal for anything like that to also happen "offscreen." Especially since there's a lot the MC is going to be doing.

>>25496853
>>25496858
In this case, just go ahead with your MC. If even you don't know how important it'll be then it's probably not going to have any load-bearing plotpoints in it.

>>25496869
Thank you for your opinion, anon, that's probably the avenue I'm gonna go with.

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>>25496883
I appreciate the advice but I'm also on a pretty severe diet at the moment, and that is in fact having a significant impact on my energy and mood. So your instinct is spot on but the advice is inactionable until I hit my target. I'm really attached to both writing and weightloss at the moment and caffeine is helping both, at the cost of stress and sleep, but it's a sacrifice I'm making consciously.
Just gotta keep grinding... Thankfully I've got the next two full months blocked off on my calendar so I SHOULD be unbothered for some time.

>>25496470
My patreon has been slowly and steadily falling off, especially the last two months, which is quite annoying. I need to self-promote more and write better so people get interested in what's going on. I'm hoping the climax I write between now and the end of the year is what does it and I can recover patrons.

Very cute elf.

>>25496911
>but I'm also on a pretty severe diet at the moment, and that is in fact having a significant impact on my energy and mood
As an anon who's similarly been grinding every single day for over 120 days now, I can tell you I was doing it while eating exclusively at BMR for about 90 of those days and those were some of the most agonizing days of my life. Dieting hard results in a stress reaction that makes creative thinking harder because your brain is prioritizing finding food.

Fellow cultivators, you are not winning if you are not reading on one screen with https://doorwatchers.itch.io/cycle-of-the-first-dawn up on the other.

>>25491377
>Running your story like the business it is:
I fucking hate how much sense this makes and how miserable it'd make me to find success this way. Fuck.

>>25497063
its fairly outdated but if you mean the core ideas then I honesty dont know how people are so naive in the modern age, did you think raw passion and the power of hope sells books? business is business, even in art

>>25497065
>did you think raw passion and the power of hope sells books?
No, no. Again, I think it makes sense. I'm just sad I don't have an italian rich guys funding me in exchange for sex.

>>25497005
hey this is kinda fun, maybe I should play princess maker games again. there was this mecha pilot one that came out recently I could play between chapters, but this is my first actual experience with goofy cultivation and it's not that bad.

>>25496813
The side characters can deal with their side character business, then somehow they show up and assist the main character with his shit. Big teamwork finale.

>>25496111
>How would Fag Yuan refute this?
"cope" *kills you*

>>25495675
Kowtow to Popeye of course.

>>25496828
10000 tragedies?

>>25497684
No, >>25496813 is some other dude. Besides, I've already completed that arc in my backlog, I don't need more advice on it right now.

>>25497073
It's one of the more fun cultivation idle games that I have found. Helps that the writing isn't ESL-tier.

>>25491377
>new goal post 500-1000 word chapters every 2 days
I know people expect 2K chapters every day, but that's all I can manage. I simply do not have motivation to write backlog for something that might get 5 views per chapter

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Chapters get their own names instead of just a number, yay or nay?
What about arcs having their own name with chapters part1, part 2 etc or is that too spoilery?
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>>25497811
>it's gonna fail anyway so I won't even try
winner mentality

>>25497841
Bruh, think. The chapter title is effectively free ad space to grab views, you'd have to be an idiot to leave it as "chapter x" that everyone's eyes will automatically skip

>>25497785
Then don't sweat it? You can schedule multiple chapters and stagger them every few days, thats what I do. I also barely get views but that doesnt stop me since I want to finish the story more than anything else. I take breakd to read or vidya when I feel like it. Nobody cares if you miss a expected upload or two.

>>25497841
Combine these two:
>Chapters get their own names
and
>Chapters are named and numbered in clusters, e.g. "68 - Showdown at the Edge of Death Pt.4"

>>25497858
I don't like Pt.4 or whatever numbering desu, because you can tell at the beginning that it's going to be a nothing chapter and the author might even extend the nothingness happening just to meet word counts.

>>25497862
Chapter Title (Number) is very common
Because as you might guess coming up with new chapter titles constantly is a pain
I do it sure but it's not the norm

>>25497841
For me, it's
>1.1
>1.2
...
>3.21
>3.22
...
>4.17 - Final

Do I... Do I NEED to have an AIslop cover? Can't I just. Hire an artist? Have a charming self-made cover?

>>25497881
>Hire an artist?
Enjoy giving like $500 to some gobshite who underdelivers weeks after due.
People don't use AI covers because readers demand it, they use them because it allows them to quickly iterate and create a cover that fits their mental image of what they want without being dicked around by some BDP furry who is too busy jorkin it to actually complete the commission they've been paid for.

>>25497881
A commissioned cover is fine, although you have to keep an eye out for scammers and overchargers. Don't pay more than $200 at most $300 for a cover.

In most cases an AI cover is used and then if the book makes a profit that money is used to commission a cover

>>25497881
I made my cover in MSPaint.

>>25497895
>$500 to some gobshite who underdelivers
I have an artist I've worked with multiple times and not only has he not underdelivered, he's always improved on my vision.
Still, thanks for the reply. I'll go for it then!

>>25497895
This. I have spent maybe 1k on commissioning art in total over the years and the sense of entitlement among low skilled freelance artists and the attempts they'll make to cut corners is crazy. I overpaid one to try to motivate her to better capture what I was going for and it backfired if anything.

There are diamonds in the rough but don't let yourself get jerked around. I myself massively prefer human art to ai slop. Also, make sure you have a clear vision for what you want and get commercial terms up front.

>>25494708
I hated it, and stopped half way through the first book.
All the males are stereotypically bone headed, knuckle draggers, and all the women are amazing, insightful and empathetic and held back by all the said men. Unless they're effeminate or worshiping the feet of the protagonists, those are alright via the author.
>>25496518
This, the whining and sarcasm just never ends. And the hyper-focusing on chess non-stop is really fkin grating.
>>25495823
Pisces was lobotomized so he could help Erin and Ryoko (or whatever her name was again). If Pisces was as powerful, multi-talented, and useful as he was presented in the books. (Able to fully heal Ryoko the way he did, and then gifted Erin an intelligent undead servant), someone would of taken him in, sought after him, or he would of found his place somewhere else rather than being a grave robbing vagabond.

>>25497909
>All the males are stereotypically bone headed, knuckle draggers, and all the women are amazing, insightful and empathetic and held back by all the said men
...is the author an mtf

>>25497909
>All the males are stereotypically bone headed, knuckle draggers, and all the women are amazing, insightful and empathetic and held back by all the said men. Unless they're effeminate or worshiping the feet of the protagonists, those are alright via the author.
You did not get halfway through the first book cuz you would've met Ryoka or Pisces by that point lmao

>>25497913
Idk, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

Wandering Inn just adds so much bullshit that I wanna get to the main part of Erin just being a goddamn inn-keeper instead of all of this side-fuckery.
Ryoko is fucking unbearable to read about.
Erin has layers of plot armor, and she should of gotten fucked harder for all her mistakes of being a dumb cunt by trying to be a self-righteous peace keeper. The goblins should of ruined her, and the swarms of monsters surrounding the area around her inn too. Also, despite so many people holding her hand constantly, and giving her so much assistance. Erin doesn't have to pay for her fuck ups, other than paying the price of one of her friend's dying for her because she wanted to play peace keeper with a fucking rapist warband of goblins, because one of them could play chess.
It's fucking insane on any logical point.
Then how shit Erin treats all the people who have supported her too. Especially shitting on the men who helped (and died for her), and praising the women and then making passing comments about "le racism of inter-species, and humans are le worst and le biggest racists" despite ever other specie having their own prejudice against every other group.
Idk why it's so fucking popular.

>>25497927
Once more, to that anon out there who was worried about criticism, beware this brand of reader: The No Reading Comprehension mf.

>>25497902
Did it draw attention?

>>25497931
>Vague posting
Okay, explain and expand then.

>>25497923
Maybe I read more of it, idk, but I stopped around the time Erin was trying to learn magic when Pisces was trying to teach all of them in exchange to try and pay off his debts to Erin. And the goblin girl picking up fire magic and all that. Maybe 2/3rds of the way through the first book. Idk, but I put it down for a long while, since I can only ingest so much of it before I can't take anymore.
Meanwhile I can soar through the Black Company series, up until Lies Weeping, since that just becomes boring since there's not much more to go from there on the Plain of Glittering Stone.

>>25497927
>should of
opinion disregarded

>>25497938
The takes from that poster are either made with bad faith, bad memories, or second-hand understanding of the story.
There's a variety of characters from both genders, and the only male 'knucklehead' is Relc. Yes, the story has competent women, but you also have competent men aplenty.
The complain about pisces is nonsensical. Not only is he a broke criminal who has gone around stealing, he's a necromancer--and due to recent history, his class is reviled in the entire continent. "He could hide it-" he's being actively chased for crimes beyond just his class which is why he stays the fuck away from civilization for the most part.
Erin absolutely has to pay for her mistakes. Not only a friend of hers dies, she gets injured and alienates a lot of people and eventually she literally has to pay.
Ryoka is insufferable, that much is true. God forbid a character has flaws and is set for growth (I love V1 Ryoka btw, she's my kind of insufferable).
Also, anon completely misunderstanding why Erin protects goblin lives. "Because one can play chess" no, motherfucker, it's because they're people. Erin hates killing and death even in self-defense, even in the later volumes when she's become a butcher herself. She's willing to do it, but she doesn't like it.
Also
>Erin has plot armor
Motherfucker she's the main character, do you want her to die in the first book or what. I'm sure he also complains about the plot armor of whatever powercreep dungeonslop he reads elsewhere too!

>femc
No thanks.