I don't want anything about the most common themes, like love or heartbreak or anything like that. I want something extremely depressing, demoralizing, with nothing positive, everything being written about in a sort of depression filter.There has to be no hope anywhere in the book, unless it's false hope. No good endings, no positive spin on things, I want the character or characters by the end of the book to be broken, weak, suicidal, being destroyed by whatever happened/is happening to them to the point where they're not even really a human being anymore, just a sort of weak, pitiful person. I want whoever the person initially used to be, or wanted to be, completely destroyed and turned unrecognizable.It's best if everything is a slow burn, something bad happening to the character over and over again and making sure it is actually hopeless.
>Cioran, >Ligotti, >Mainländer, >Celine, >...
>>25492577Whatever by Michel Houellebecq
My diary desu
>>25492654That's just mostly apathy
>>25492577Pessoa or Salinger will fuck you up if that's what you want.>>25492591ligotti is a clownCeline is just being french.>>25492654wellbekq is a fun fish
notes from the underground is literally this
>>25492577I remember being 16 once, little timmy.
>>25492701Notes from the Underground is the incel equivalent of American Psycho. You're supposed to laugh at him.
>>25492577Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy is exactly what you're looking for. I hated it because of that, actually. Possibly the first time I'm recommending it on here as anything but a cruel joke.gay thread btw
>>25492654grim
>>25492729When you're 16, you ridicule the idea of intellectualizing you're predicament. When your 20, you realize that 16 year olds are retarded little bitches.
>>25492591>Cioran,The problem with Cioran is that he's really fucking funny
For your consideration, a book about how Earth is somewhere between a prison and a farm for the alien overlords that hold dominion over it, backed up by several dozen pages of footnotes that backs up his conclusions.>>25492739I laughed at Notes from the Underground because it was so feeble. Maybe that shit was considered edgy back when it was written, but these days, the narrator doesn't even rise to the level of a poser.
>>25492577No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai.Its basically a book about BPD.
If you're down for short stories then Tolstoy's Ivan Illych seems like a good place. Tolstoy's implicit message for that story isn't about succumbing to nihilism or hopelessness but you could very easily interpret it as morbidly as you wish.
I couldn't finish because it was too depressing.
"A Little Life" by Hanya Yanagihara"A Thousand Splendid Suns" by Khaled Hosseini"The Book Thief" by Markus Zuzak"The Road" by Cormac McCarthy"Escape from Camp 14" by Blaine Harden"A Long Way Gone" by Ishmael Beah"The Death of Money" by James Rickards"The Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck
>>25492701Dostoyevsky is a Christian optimist. He is inherently the opposite of what OP is looking for. His point is to highlight the problems of the material world and contrast them with God and Heaven (which he believes in).
>>25492577>Tractatus Logico-Suicidalis >Franz KafkaAnd obviously Schopenhauer since no one's mentioned him somehow.
>>25492577Just read Peter Sotos man
>>25492577https://www.vaubanbooks.com/books/the_camp_of_the_saints_paperback.php
>>25492577ive posted this in other threads but this one will depress the fuck out of you and will mindbreak you into nihilistic despair, so be warned.
>>25492577The Notebook Trilogy by Ágota Kristof
For me it's MaupassantHis stories often have happy endings and optimistic perspectives but you can tell it's merely wish fulfillment for Maupassant
This book is unbelievably blackpilled and explains why millennials are all so depressed and messed up. I am glad I did not grow up reading this shit or I would be a miserable antinatalist consoomer too.The main character is the punching bag in his own book, the book being like if Jeff Kinney's diary of a wimpy kid and Michel Houellebecq's Whatever were merged into one.Downright grim
>>25492753Wait was that supposed to be depressing? I found it rather comfy and grounded. Great book regardless.
>>25493146Thanks ChatGPT
>>25493614I remember you posting this in the suicide thread. But still haven't explained why this is depressing, it looks like that how to influence and make friends book
Hogg by Samuel R. Delany
>>25492577Cioran, Houellebecq
>>25494601>suppresses Transfiguration of Romania altogetherAnyway, how is the other early Romanian stuff?
>>25494601To elaborate on this Cioran: philosophical nihilism and the angony of consciousness Houellebecq: modern day isolation and incelism. Fight (and lose) against a system that robs you of your powerI'll add two more:Pessoa: the curse of thinking more than you feel. Acceptance of one's lot. Impossibility to communicate with other human beings.Celine: dirty, gross, disgusting. Life is a journey from bad to worse. No matter where you are, there is no escape from daily acts of nastiness, including our own. >>25494611Unfortunately it's absent from the French edition at the request of the author
>>25493146Thanks gemini
>>25492577kaiju: battlefield surgeonit is fantasy and the ending, specifically the very last couple of sentences, made me feel dirty in a way that hundreds of other fantasy/scifi books have not. was not at all expecting what was given to me.
>>25492992pic related>>25493614lol>>25493700you might be interested in "an empirical introduction to youth">>25494391Your book is shit and you should an hero.
I remember being really bummed out reading The Depressed Person by DFW.I also read a short story by Nabokov once that was really bleak. I think it was called Signs or Symbols.
>>25494669You are very welcome! I am always happy to help.If you are ready to start a new task, let me know how we should proceed. I can help you:• Brainstorm creative ideas or outlines.• Analyze complex data or articles.• Draft or refine emails, letters, and essays.What would you like to work on next?
Lady Nijō's Towazugatari felt rather profoundly depressing at the end.
>>25494751>you might be interested in "an empirical introduction to youth"The overview does sound interesting, but what about my review on Youth in Revolt made you think that I might be interested this? Is there a message or chapter that somehow ties into what I said?It is the one by Joseph Bronski right?
spoiler Kafka spoiler
>>25492577the loser by thomas bernhard hit me quite hard some months ago
>>25492577> I'm looking for dark and depressing booksWhy tho
>>25495841OP is probably 17 and "in his feelings" as the poet Aubrey Drake Graham said after a bad breakup and wants to become oh so very numb.
>>25492591Fuckin lost
>>25492577What is making you feel this way OP? That would help me make a good suggestion. Of course, the sincerest response, and I know it isn't something you're gonna like hearing, but if the muse has visited you about something you want to see written, you'd probably better write it yourself instead of deferring to an imaginary reading list
>>25492577CRAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
https://www.2arms1head.com/
It's curious how Sade is almost never brought up in these kind of threads despite his books being pretty dark and hopeless.
>Platonov- The Foundation Pit (the Russian title has a double meaning as void/absence)>Djuna Barnes- Nightwood>any number of John Hawkes books (The Cannibal, The Beetle Leg, The Lime Twig, Travesty...)OP might like Mishima but there isn't a particular Mishima I'd rec here
>>25496391my love is wiiiiiiiiideeeeerrrrrrrr
>>25496391the characters might be in dark and hopeless situations, but the way he writes it comes across more like pic related
>>25492577The Strange by CamusMetamorphosis by KafkaGerminal by Zola
>>25496859*Stranger
Long Day's Journey Into Night by O'Neill (this one is a play)
>>25492577For me, it's good ol' Webster and his Duchess of Malfi, Cioran is a funny old rambling romanian grandpa in comparison. Also asking for plays/books that on par with Webster, aside from obvious picks, clanker too stupid to find good stuff
>>25494372"Are you persuaded of what you do or not? Do you need something to happen or not in order to do what you do? Do you need the correlations to coincide always, because the end is never in what you do, even if what you do is vast and distant but is always in your continuation? Do you say you are persuaded of what you do, no matter what? Yes? Then I tell you: tomorrow you will certainly be dead. It doesn't matter? Are you thinking about fame? About your family? But your memory dies with you,with you your family is dead. Are you thinking about your ideals? You want to make a will? You want a headstone? But tomorrow those too are dead, dead. All men die with you. Your death is an unwavering comet. Do you turn to god? There is no god, god dies with you. The kingdom of heaven crumbles with you, tomorrow you are dead, dead. Tomorrow everything is finished—your body, family, friends, country, what you’re doing now, what you might do in the future, the good, the bad, the true, the false, your ideas, your little part, god and his kingdom, paradise, hell, everything, everything, everything. Tomorrow everything is over—in twenty four hours is death.Well, then the god of today is no longer yesterday’s, no longer the country, the good, the bad, friends, or family. You want to eat? No, you cannot. The taste of food is no longer the same; honey is bitter, milk is sour, meat nauseating, and the odor, the odor sickens you: it reeks of the dead. You want a woman to comfort you in your last moments? No, worse: it is dead flesh. You want to enjoy the sun, air, light, sky? Enjoy?! The sun is a rotten orange, the light extinguished, the air suffocating. The sky is a low, oppressive arc. . . .No, everything is closed and dark now. But the sun shines, the air is pure, everything is like before, and yet you speak like a man buried alive, describing his tomb. And persuasion? You are not even persuaded of the sunlight; you cannot move a finger, cannot remain standing. The god who kept you standing,made your day clear and your food sweet, gave you family, country, paradise—he betrays you now and abandons you because the thread of your philopsychia is broken.The meaning of things, the taste of the world, is only for continuation’s sake. Being born is nothing but wanting to go on on: men live in order to live, in order not to die. Their persuasion is the fear of death. Being born is nothing but fearing death, so that, if death becomes certain in a certain future, they are already dead in the present. All that they do and say with fixed persuasion, a clear purpose, and evident reason is nothing but fear of death– ‘indeed, believing one is wise without being wise is nothing but fearing death."
>>25495841It's fun.
>>25492577Less Than Zero by BEE fits the bill
>>25492690Only plotfags and retards find Pessoa depressing.
