Anybody here have kids or relatives that are kids that enjoy reading?I want my kids to actively enjoy reading much more than I did.Just wondering if there is anything I can do to encourage this?>reading to them before bed when they are super young>encouraging them to read>reading to them as babies>Actively reading in my free time to encourage a reading environment>Using Audiobooks/books for car ridesI was also thinking of having a requirement to read at least an hour a day but I worry it will push them away.Of course not all kids will enjoy it, such as those with severe learning disabilities that may become frustrated with struggling with reading.
No screens.
Buy them editions with lots of images. Kids love flipping through these kind of books, and when they're reading, a lot of them read to get to the next image.
>>25498482This is how you get tech-illiterates.
>>25498482>I was also thinking of having a requirement to read at least an hour a day but I worry it will push them away.Yeah, I wouldn’t do this, the rest is good though. But you could do things like “No screens in bedrooms/at bedtime, but books are allowed,” (being allowed to stay up late so long as you’re reading really feels like you’re getting away with something as a kid) and hanging out at the library regularly.Reading to little kid helps them enjoy it because it’s a bonding experience, but as they get older the transition into reading as a quiet, solitary activity can be difficult. See if there are things that can make it more social for them, book clubs etc. That’s the real reason Harry Potter took off so hard, it wasn’t about the books so much as a shared culture among the kids. Any other book I’d ever read in my life, I’m hard pressed to think of when I’ve met someone who’s even heard of it, but Harry Potter was always good conversation kindling. For a kid to be a big reader is already a little alienating, so you can counter that by turning it into something that nurtures friendships rather than taking time away from engaging with others (especially in an overly connected world where a rainy day means chatting with your friends online rather than having to find something to do alone).Also, expect them to lose interest in anything you want them to do once they hit their tweens/teens, just trust that they’ll come back around rather than pushing too hard. Kids that age are desperate to define an identity for themselves, so if you complain that they aren’t reading enough, they’ll learn to view themselves as a non-reader, even if they’re still vastly outpacing their peers.>I want my kids to actively enjoy reading much more than I did.Identify why you didn’t enjoy it and use that knowledge
Take them to bookstores regularly and tell them they can pick out any book they want.
>>25498478Reading random books is a waste of time and energy. You want to increase their literacy, rather than just put tons of random words into them. You don't increase literacy by general reading. You increase literacy by studying the Trivium. So I suggest giving them the grammar, logic and rhetoric that school will not give them.Here are some grammar books. You begin with grammar. Logic and rhetoric come later.https://archive.org/details/elementarygramm00harvhttps://archive.org/details/harveysenglishgr00harvhttps://archive.org/details/pinprimgrammar00pinneohttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293104635234I also suggest teaching Latin.https://archive.org/details/familia-romanahttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/539230460/#539231564https://archive.org/details/latinforbeginner0000benjAlso teach them some modern languages, German, French, Italian or whatever. Reading is a lot more fun when you're not monolingual.https://archive.org/details/jensen-arthur-le-francais-par-la-methode-naturehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdIS7NMcdUdxibD1UyzNFTPhttps://archive.org/details/childsillustrate00keet/page/20/mode/1uphttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044102864030https://archive.org/details/deutsch-nach-der-naturmethodehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhc0J7rC_vQMUBIVdaj---V5https://archive.org/details/elementarygerman0000unse_x6b0https://archive.org/details/LitalianoSecondoIlMetodoNaturahttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhfQonvCySTrKEUV742WzshJ
>>25498478I saw some women make a viral post on twitter how her child's bedtime is x O'clock but the child is allowed to stay up past that only if they are reading during that time. Who knows. Maybe this fucks their sleep schedule. Maybe the kid already gets 10 or so hours of sleep so if the kid reads, and still manages to get 8 and a half or 9 hours of sleep, it wouldn't make a major difference.
>>25498478Picture books. The fairy tales, Grimm's, Aesops, Arabian Nights. Comics for children.
>>25498584woman*
>>25498482I feel like that will just alienate them from their peers, leave them "behind" on their technical ability in ever growing digital world and will lead to them resenting traditional reading.>>25498495>>25498589I will definitely do this in their toddler stage to above 4~ish years old. Then try and push them towards normal kids books. I think that about an appropriate age to kind of ween them/encourage them from picture books. I'll try manga and comics aswell to fill in the visual written story telling format.>>25498541>Identify why you didn’t enjoy it and use that knowledgeI just remember being really frustrated with my reading speed. It takes me about 1 hour to read 30~40 pages of non fiction historical books as an adult, however as a child this felt like ages and I felt like I forgot the plot of a fictional story before I finished the book.>>25498560I've heard this is good to encourage them.>>25498573I definitely plan on teaching them a foreign language for the European mainland since I live in the UK and this country is kind of a dump right now. I was thinking of getting a tutor for them to learn and encourage an older sibling to teach the younger one.
>>25498573>You increase literacy by studying the Trivium.Oh great, this sperg is still around
>>25498615It's really hard to tell since we're the first generation to face this problem of raising kids in a digital dependant age. Teaching them on how to navigate through the technology isn't wrong but at the same pens and papers are still one of the best method to stimulate their brain's growth. There's also that backtracking of digital focused education policy that were made by several governments to return to traditional method after some consideration. Balance is important in this case.
I really loved those ghost stories when I was a kid lmao
>>25498503that's happening either way
>>25498616It's true. General reading does not make your PIAAC score go up. Studying the Trivium does. There is no value in having your children read random books. That's just what they brainwash you to believe. You want to give yourself and your children the education they got at Boston Latin School in the 19th century, and they definitely didn't read any random books; they were extremely selective with what they read.
>>25498503All the silicone valley niggas are raising their kids without screens. Do what they do
>>25498573>Reading random books is a waste of time and energy.I tend to agree. There were a lot of dim/midwits who "like to read." Probably from reading to soothe themselves when mommy and daddy were fighting or some shit.
>>25498726>You want to give yourself and your children the education they got at Boston Latin School in the 19th centuryIt's amazing how you don't realize how retarded this is
>>25498803nope, study the Trivium and the Quadriviumhttps://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof28.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_school
this would be for when kids are a little olderhttps://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-josephhttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://annas-archive.gl/md5/42f782ad0296196d17937958b3bb9466
Instead of trying to educate your children yourself like what the other dude is spamming about it might be best to put them in a SSPX school if you've got one in your country. They teach in the way of the Ratio Studiorum which is a classical education followed by all the great authors pre-Revolution. Doesn't matter if you're not Catholic, just tell your kid to larp so he can get a good education.
Monkey see, monkey do. Kids become readers by being raised by readers. If they see their parents reading for fun, they will assume reading is fun. If they don't see their parents reading at all but have it forced upon them anyway, they will assume reading is a chore.
>>25498503>he thinks this is le bad
>>25498503I was raised with only basic over-the-air TV as my only screen entertainment until I was 12 years old, and I work as a programmer. You absolutely should not overstimulate toddlers. Especially with modern devices which are just platforms for advertisements. Imagine giving a 4 year old a phone and forcing him to sit through advertisements as he waits to watch youtube / tiktok brainrot. Kids shouldn't have phones until they're in middle school at the earliest.
>>25498478Well, I am an avid reader and have been my entire life, and how my parents achieved that is by reading to me when I was a baby and little kid, and buying me books to help me learn how to read at an early age. I was reading before I started kindergarten because my parents took an active hand in teaching me. Both parents.It helped also I didn't have any video games until I was 10 years old. By that point I was an accomplished reader, with a small library of well-read books that were my primary form of enjoyment, other than watching the occasional movie. I got really into video games in my teens, but I remained an active reader, too. I didn't exchange reading for video gaming. Today I'm in my mid 30s and I read far more than I play video games or watch online videos. I just enjoy it more.
>>25498726>I want my kids to actively enjoy reading much more than I did.That's the second line of OP.By the chart you just posted your reply would be likely level 1 or 2.
Endere's game and ender's shadow quartet.
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>>25498931The reason people don't enjoy reading is because their PIAAC score is low. OP suggested reading as a way to learn to enjoy reading. Reading random books doesn't get your PIAAC score up, and therefore it doesn't get your enjoyment of reading to go up. This is mainly what I object to. But to some extent I also object to the objective of becoming someone who reads random books, or enjoys reading for the sake of it. That's pretty much a waste of time too. You should be working on acquiring a liberal education rather than reading random books. I'm free to have this opinion, and I'm free to think OP and you are the brainwashed vapid beach-reader type. Some of us have a greater purpose in life than you cooking-show-watchers.
>>25499808Get a job, nigger.>>25498478You don't.
>>25498478read the zamonia series.start with this one.kids have an inherent bloodlust, and if books become the means to sate that bloodlust, they'll be hooked. tell them that anything is permissible when it happens in print and books will become a source of freedom.
>>25498478how about creating a routine ?Every wednesday, friday, saturday and sunday (assuming they don't have school/pre-school the day after), get together with your kids and have everyone read a book in silence, in the same room, for an hour or so.Make it a recurring family activity. This will also give you the occasion to explain complicated words to your kids. I personally still remember the day I asked my father what "à foison" meant and I remember that exact scene every time I think of that word.as others have said, kids like to imitate what they see adults do. If they see you read, they'll certainly want to read too to be like "the grown-ups" and if you have multiple kids, each younger one will want to immitate the older one.You can even pass books. Let's say you read some science-fiction, when one of them get a bit older, say 12, you can read a book then introduce him to it then discuss about the subjects. Probably a good way to bond.Really as I write all that it seems that having dedicated read-together time is incredibly good for a family
>>25500295cont.>>25498478>I was also thinking of having a requirement to read at least an hour a dayI think it's a terrible idea, they'll want to have a lot of "their own" time to play (which include reading), just make sure that they don't have too many videogames or easy internet access or they'll fill their entire free time with content consumption and rotThe most important thing to learn to like reading imo is to read fun stuff, you know, those page turners in which you dream that you are the character and you just want to go on and on on adventures (SF & fantasy). For me it was Harry Potter when I was a wee lad then Asimov's story when I was 14 and this feeling of living the adventures through the text made me addicted to reading.
>>25498478OP I'm a private ESL tutor in Japan. Not a prestigious or licensed job so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I'm seeing the effects of screens on kids and it's bad. Real bad. The biggest challenges are that kids don't have endurance for reading anything more than standardized testing segments, and they lack the critical thinking to break down and analyze texts (and accordingly, life). I think that the important thing is establishing a visual culture of reading, like >>25498837 suggests. Make sure your kids see you reading from a very young age. When they do start, get them a bookshelf and let them pick out books for it, make it seem like a big deal. Read together and then later make them read to you. When they get too old, encourage them to talk about their books. Characters, plot, moral, what was their favorite thing, etc. Take your kids to the library frequently and give them time to find books on their own, but don't make them think you're just using the library as babysitting. ALWAYS leave the library with books for yourself (even if you won't read them) because you want them to see you reading. The hardest part is around 5-9th grade, when most kids stop being rewarded for reading and school takes up more time. My advice is to teach them how to find books they like by finding preferred authors and genres. You can help them to form a relationship with their school or public librarian, who will usually help them find more of what they like. I'm conflicted on the forced reading issue. I had undiagnosed ADHD and it made me really stressed, as my parents forced me to read 50 pages a day during the summer. If I didn't, I couldn't play games or watch TV. I still struggle with a broken mentality of "I must do chores before I can have any fun at all." but I suspect that simply setting a more realistic time limit (rather than pages) would be fine.My parents also let me "stack" read books towards a reward on the wall, and that was great.
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