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I don’t come here very often, and of course I am right not to because if this place was really so literate someone should have mentioned the existence of this book. Complete prose mastery.
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Not reading your backwards trash, Nahasameen.
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>nyrb
my prediction is it sucks ass
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>>25501640
Huge senpai of modern Indian prose here, so thank you kindly for the suggestion, it's going on the list.
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>>25501671
ugh bro ppl hate on christianity but dude get a load of this shit
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OP is a retard and has once again proven that people who cite prose never know what they're talking about when it comes to literature.
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>>25501690
India is not the place Schopenhauer or Guenon hoped it was
>>25501701
What do you mean?
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>>25501640
>NYRB
Never heard of this book but I've never read a bad NYRB book so thanks for the recommendation. What did you like about it?
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SAAR THE BLOODY BRITISH BASTARDS RUINED ARYAN INDIA SAAR
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>>25501708
Whenever anyone posts about a book and the majority of what they say relates to prose quality you automatically know that 1) they're amateur readers who haven't developed taste and 2) they're retarded and will offer no insight.
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>>25501740
I mean Chaudhuri isn’t a genius but he writes English with rare perfection. I don’t know why you are so aggressive about this rule you have come up with that having a concept of prose quality makes one a retard. What do you think is good taste? Was Joyce a retard when he said JH Newman was the greatest prose writer?
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>>25501762
>I mean
Whenever someone starts a post out with "I mean" you never read the rest.
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>>25501671
>>25501680
>>25501684
This is astonishingly bad
like Pessoa if he were brain damaged
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>>25501731
Some of my best friends were Indian American and I think I understand them better
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>>25501775
Astonishingly. I am astonished.
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>>25501764
>>25501775
You have confused scathing bilious critique with taste. Insecurity precludes sincerity.
Many such cases.
Sad.
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>>25501640
Purple and overly formal
Jeetglish is a plague on academic papers
With every sentence they violate the injunction against subjective and opinionated reporting
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>>25501802
I broke my own rule and went back and read >>25501762. It was a complete waste of time and I was wrong to break the rule. For example:
>writes English with rare perfection
Completely empty statement undone by the examples posted ITT.
>I don’t know why you are so aggressive
Crying like a bitch.
>about this rule you have come up with that having a concept of prose quality makes one a retard
The fact this isn't the rule confirms you're a retard with poor reading comprehension.
>What do you think is good taste?
Attempt to shift the burden of conversation onto me in order to escape being called out.
>Was Joyce a retard when he said JH Newman was the greatest prose writer?
Comparing statement, not argument with examples but statement, on prose with something an established writer said while once again misunderstanding the rule.

Yep, you're a retard. Now let's check out the post to which I'm responding.

>You have confused scathing bilious critique with taste
There's nothing that I've said to indicate such (therefore you're projecting) and you misused words while thinking verbosity demonstrates intelligence.
>Insecurity precludes sincerity.
Lol, you probably thought that was insightful. Cool cliche, bro.
>Many such cases.
>Sad.
Two more cliches (and you thought each were important enough to deserve their own line!) Lol.

You're also retarded.
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>>25501803
>With every sentence they violate the injunction against subjective
Can you give some examples from the pages OP posted. I'm not mind blown, but it is pleasant to read and evokes the shame and frustration he feels quite well to me.
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>>25501843
Idk maybe ur just gay
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>>25501875
Nope but you're definitely retarded.
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>>25501853
>from the pages OP posted
Ok
this is a watered-down version of what I was taught

referring to >>25501680:
the first half is fine

>I could go on multiplying these examples,
"I could give many more examples,"

>year after year, exerted a strong influence on my mind.
"strongly influenced my mind."
or even,
"strongly influenced me."

>My childlike faculty of wonder at the beauty of Nature
"My childlike wonder at the beauty of Nature"

"faculty of" is completely unnecessary. you say "I have particularly keen eyesight", not "I have a particularly keen faculty of eyesight", don't you? he's added 3 unnecessary words, 1 of them jargon, and why? for no good reason.
we do say
>sense of smell
because it is both a necessary description and alliterative, and sounds pleasant. that's fine.
but
>faculty of wonder
uses no such figure of speech. it does not sound pleasant.

>became suffused
"was suffused"
I can hear my professor yelling now: "why use 2 syllables when 1 will do?!"
"suffused" is acceptable in a literary work

for the same reasons as above,
>very vivid
is alliterative, so I'll allow the figure of speech

>In my boyhood
As a boy,

>, and I was filled with an unbearable homesickness mingled with awe.
When?
This is a structural problem. I can't tell when he was filled with this homesickness: when he was lying down on that mat? that can't be, he was already home.
later, when he was 6 or 7 and asked his mum to sing his favourite songs?
or even as an adult, assuming the preceding page describes the incident that began all these reminisces?

I can't tell!
This, to me, is the ultimate sin: that the author got so caught up with his fanciful prose that the narrative has become disjointed and difficult to follow.

Anyway, my main gripe is with their pollution of academic journals. Look at this nonsense from the editor of one of India's most prestigious sociology journals.
>https://www.epw.in/journal/2022/44-45/editors-desk/words-matter-power-politics.html
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>>25501937
You are almost as insufferable as the narrator.
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>>25501853
similarly,

My rewrite of >>25501684 would be:
>“To this day I am unable to shake off this feeling, this conviction that the material world around me is insubstantial, although I have completely lost all religious conviction and faith in another world. Therefore I find myself at times in the curious position of denying this world without having anything to put in its place.”

His next sentence misuses “duration” when he meant “longevity”, and fails to indicate that “ready to be anything … moles of Adrianus” is a quotation.

Moving on,
>“And this happens to me not only WITH regard to the world of far-stretched ambitions and maddening vices which is derided as ‘worldly’ by the world, but even WITH the world which is made up of the wild loveliness of the face of the earth…”

Mixing “in regard” and “with (regard)”, which is the intent of the sentence, breaks parallelism. He should have gone either in/in or with/with, not in/with.

And he must have loved that bullshit about “the world which is of the world worldly”, thinking he was being really clever at wordplay, but it doesn’t make any sense because he misused “of the world” thinking it means the same as “by the world”. It doesn’t.

>milky spray of the stars
Milk doesn’t resemble a spray of stars. He tried to do some more wordplay here, obviously referencing the Milky Way, but the metaphor is muddled.

>the universe is … by a vast darkness
Again, muddled metaphors. The EARTH is composed to rest, not the UNIVERSE. The vast darkness of the universe is always there, it’s the EARTH that is darkened by nightfall, and the very same light of the stars that he is talking about comes from the UNIVERSE.

Put simply, he wrote: “the light of the stars is seen only when night falls on the universe”

LMAO

>>25501955
seethe and cope
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>>25501937
Sure, that journal reads so bad its almost funny.

On the ones you gave, fair enough on some:

>faculty of wonder
retarded

>exerted a strong influence on my mind
clumsy

>very vivid
childish

>in my boyhood
pointless, honestly like it a little bit on the sole virtue of conveying more yearning, but still quite clumsy in this context

>grammatical mistake
retarded as well

But some are good:

>multiplying these examples
Punchier than "many more" when trying to convey literal multiplicity.

>became suffused
Becoming indicates process, "was suffused" sounds a finished, discrete event. "Became suffused" works better when considering that previous sentence about continuous, gradual transformation.

I really don't think these are uniquely horrible, but yeah kind of amateurish.
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>>25501968
>Becoming indicates process, "was suffused" sounds a finished, discrete event. "Became suffused" works better when considering that previous sentence about continuous, gradual transformation
"suffuse" already means a "gradual spread", so "became" borders on a tautology

>I really don't think these are uniquely horrible, but yeah kind of amateurish.
I can forgive a lot of bullshit, which is universal, given that the term "purple prose" neither originated from nor was popularised by the Indian subcontinent
and this kind of literary work is more like poetry, and poetry hits everyone different
I can forgive much of that

but it's their academic writing which I was really ranting about, such as picrel from a top medical journal

>burden
Figure of speech
>Importantly
Tortured synonym which shouldn’t be used as a transitional word
>far higher
Subjective opinion
>might be because of
ESL for “might be a result of”
>overdiagnosis
Misused jargon; early detection of cancer is NOT overdiagnosis
>inequitable
Subjective opinion
>vast
A synonym of “large” tortured into subjectivity
>Decreased
“Lower” or “lesser”
“decreased” implies survival used to be higher
>multiple fronts
Figure of speech; a term borrowed from military language
>at their doorstep
Blatant figure of speech!
>manifested
Figure of speech, a favourite of jeets
>primarily
My professors would’ve said scornfully: “And what’s wrong with using the word ‘mainly’?”
>regional cancer centers exist in all parts of the country and geographically cover the population
The second clause is nonsense and superfluous
>Dissemination of
Tortured synonym for “Providing”
>Mandate
Tortured synonym of “mission” or “objective”
>rapidly
>virtually
Subjective
>entire length and breadth
Fanciful figure of speech
>and is amongst the largest cancer networks in the world
A nonsensical and subjective claim, but which is amusing to ponder, since the way it is written could also imply that it is a network which spreads cancer, rather than treats it
>by adopting evidence-based management guidelines, which are implementable
As opposed to? Fantasy-based management guidelines which are not implementable?

Etc etc.
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>>25501640
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Is this jeet really trying to shill his self published trash here? Jesus, wouldn't your time better spent scamming some grandmother out of her retirement savings?
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OP absolutely wrecked.
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>>25501843
This is the most pedantic, whiny thing Ive seen on /lit/ for the last 5 years at least, bravo
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>>25501671
Not great imo
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>>25501640
The tragedy of the book cover is that the jeet drowned shortly afterwards as his fellow jeets watched vacantly from the shore

The body floated downstream in that river of shit until it washed up on a flotilla of microplastics and as the bloated, skinny fat corpse decayed it contributed in a minor way to the awful smell of that place
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>>25504736
Seethe all you want but it won't make what was written incorrect.
>1) When the content of a post is primarily concerned with "prose quality" you can be sure the person who posted it has no insight into literature and will not offer any worthwhile criticism.
>2) Any post that begins with the words "I mean" is not worth reading because the person who wrote it is obviously retarded.
Simple.
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>>25504736
You've been here for 5 years and you don't know how to use the word "pedantic". Grim.
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i also hate indians because the internet told me to
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>>25501964
>Milk doesn’t resemble a spray of stars
it must feel bad to be more illiterate than an ESL jeet

rest of your post is rather over the target tho
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>>25501640
OP, I don't know what you expected. /lit/ is a racist place and the current race that's cool to hate is Indians. For what it's worth, I appreciate the recommendation and I like the excerpts you posted.
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>>25505869
You needed the internet? Lucky.
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>>25505889
You need to go back.
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>>25505900
>get out of our secret club! this is for the heckin basedest people not cringe people like you!
This sounds insufferably adolescent
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>>25505994
>/LIT/ IS HECKIN' RACIST! I'M SO SORRY! HERE'S AN UPDOOT MY INDIAN FRIEND!
Lol
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>>25506017
>oh yeah? oh yeah? well I'm going to prove what you just said right so there what now
Like I said, insufferably adolescent
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>>25501708
>India is not the place Schopenhauer or Guenon hoped it was
How does anything in that image contradict anything Schopenhauer or Guenon thought about India or eastern thought? Neither denied that India and Hinduism like all religions has superstitious peasants.
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>>25506024
You're insufferably gay.
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>>25505871
>Milk doesn’t resemble a spray of stars
>it must feel bad to be more illiterate than an ESL jeet
even when you spill it, it tends to puddle

>over the target
"hurr durr ESL"
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>>25501684
This isn't good.
>>25506183
Maybe he went with "milky spray" because that's what he saw after jerking off all over the page.
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>>25506183
okay, go 'head n grab a carton of milk from the icebox, Compadre. Make sure it's the regular one, and not the one labeled 'horse semen'. Make sure.

Next, take a swig, but don't swallow. I know, I know. You're used to swallowing. But don't. Keep your lips tights instead, and have a rugby midget head-butt your cock and balls.

The milk will have coned through purse. You may now observe the spray on the wall. voila, the milky way. Were that rugby midget THE cosmic rugby midget from Gamma-centurion seven, a real galaxy would have been created then and there, as had to have occurred to create our own, literally, one-hundred and twelve-thousand, nine-hundred and forty-three leaps years ago.

Your professor was a retard by the way and was taught wrong on purpose, as a joke. I bet he's the one who pushed that stick into your ass, the one so far up there it's pushing on the part of your brain to do with idiom and speech figuration.

Penis,
Anon



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