>It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life—daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual.Fuck, now I have to clean my room. Books to refute that quote?
This is a Holocaust memoir. It refutes itself according to /pol/.
>>25508707That paragraph doesn't mean anything. It's therapistbabble
>>25508752>therapistbabbleOn what basis? Because the quote is a non-sequitur like your own comment or due to it being unspecific out of context?
> tribute to hope from the holocaustwhat
>>25508769>on what basisThe basis of who Viktor Frankl is: the founding father of logotherapy, i.e, therapistbabble.
>>25508769it's broad and doesn't mean much and i worry about a mind that's impressed by it
>>25508793hope it'll happen for real this time
>>25508707>Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual.The Right Answer....according to WHOM? Right Conduct...according to WHOM? There's nothing to refute either way, it's nonsense.
>The Right Answer....according to WHOM? Right Conduct...according to WHOM?
>>25508983From what authority would you accept the statement as correct?
>>25508707>Books to refute that quote?several of them>>25509547
>>25508707>Wash your penis, goy
>>25508707Life is an inanimate object. It's a better option than death, but to raise life to an ideal is a mistake.Sure, we must wage away for life, but it is precisely because life is meaningless that we should not ask outselves what we bring to life. In doing so, you've already put life on a pedistal and all its ridiculous notions. Hmm, I don't know. What exactly do I bring to dick size or height or the pursuit of capital for the sake of asinine social status? You want us to worship Walmart. That's your profound insight?It's fairly obvious that there is no meaning to life, and we should not presume there is if we can help it. There is only meaning in what life isn't. You will find nothing but decay in life, and you will find nothing but renewal in fantasy.Life could be much worse. Committing suicide and trading a tolerable existence for a chance at anything at all is not a good deal. We came here from what we can't remmeber. Who's to say life could not happen again to us from where we can't rememeber, or something worse like hell?Life just is what it is for now. It comes with demands and limitations, and they must be dealt with. It is not your friend. You should not ask yourself "what can I bring to my life." The opposite. You should ask "what can I deny to my life." Because life is just the medium you're forced to exist through. The less you demand from it, the more what you do is yours and not just the medium. We've all experienced that happiness with stupid shit as children. Being an adult is merely being caught up with the illusion that life offers anything that's not absurd toiling for nonsense. Eventually, being disillusioned by life breaks you, but it's impossible to go back to being a child, so you settle on tolerable mediocrity instead."He who is not satisfied with little is satisfied with nothing." -Epicurus
>>25509672>It's a better option than death,according to whom?
>>25509672>EpicurusStopped reading there.
>>25509691The end is a good place to stop.
>>25509676>according to whom?It's not a matter of anyone's credibility. It's simple logic. Think about it. Dying could lead to anything. People who die and come back report all kinds of things, from crazy shit to absolutely nothing. Right now, you have a relatively tolerable existence. Why risk extreme torture just for a chance at extreme pleasure, considering the nature of torture? The depths of suffering have always been more intense than the highs of pleasure. Life sucks, but there's far more and worse suffering than there are more and better pleasures, so why roll for every possibility in existance?>>25509691>Stopped reading there.So, you read the whole thing? Kek.
>>25509672>Life is an inanimate objectking of the midwits
>>25510526You mean to tell me that life is sentient? You think it will sit down with you and have a civil conversation? Or even a non-civil one? That's not how it works, you silly goose anon. When people speak that way about life, it's merely metaphorical and anthropomorphic. When it's meant genuinely, and sometimes it is, then it's unfortunate delusion. Life should not be idealized. A part of what defines life is that it's not ideal. You could spend your whole existence on one specific part of life, and all that would come of it would be what you put in if anything at all. Life does not deserve us, and her only claim to our tolerance of her is that death remains obscured. Life has no dreams or ambitions. It just is. It does not fear or imagine anything. Life is the ink and paper we're written on. It's the soundwaves in the air. It adds nothing except an imperfect medium to exist through.
>>25510487Nobody is risking extreme torture, man. The alleged immortal soul can be demonstrably destroyed or changed forever by a good blow to the head, an unlucky infection, some stripped axons, a concoction of chemicals, or brief oxygen deprivation. Put away your supernatural BDSM fanfics and put some effort into making your life better, because yes, that's all the life you're ever going to get.
>>25508707Why would you want to refute that? Clean your room and you will feel better, don’t fight peace and happiness.
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>>25508904I'm glad I'm not the only one. I mean if it gives people hope, fine, but it's not saying anything.
>>25511157>Nobody is risking extreme torture, man. The alleged immortal soul can be demonstrably destroyed or changed forever by a good blow to the head, an unlucky infection, some stripped axons, a concoction of chemicals, or brief oxygen deprivation.So? I wasn't making the point for eternal hell, necessarily. Just that dying is a big change, and there's a lot that could suck about it.>Put away your supernatural BDSM fanfics and put some effort into making your life better, because yes, that's all the life you're ever going to get.Maybe? For now, there's no viable alternative, precisely because of the potential BDSM fanfic cases. You're goofy or materially lucky if you're really here because you want to be. Like, oh man! I can't wait to drink water every 6 hours, just so I can drop it out of my penis, just so I can drink more fucking water! I just can't contain myself waiting to brush my teeth for the umpteenth time or else they fall out! I can't wait for them to fall out anyway! I LOVE that my dick might just stop working and I'll lose all my muscle, or I'll just drop dead on the ground in excruciating pain for no good reason at all!
>>25508707life of pi for jews