Have you ever read a book that deal with 4chan and 4chan culture?
>>25510812No but I expect these books to be terrible and full of normielib smugness and/or pearl clutching
>>25510812>waifu means random anime girlI'm not reading that shit.
I had to take a research or internship class for my STEM degree, but since so many students in STEM at my college are failures, they allowed us to take a “fake” research class with training wheels on. I wrote a paper about how “Kill All Normies” (the book about 4chan) was predicted by Carl Sagan’s “Demon-Haunted World” or something. I don’t know. It was a fake class for a fake STEM degree, so I wrote a fake paper without actually reading the 4chan book or the Carl Sagan book. Got an A in the class despite abjectly failing in every meaningful way. I can’t believe that class counted the same as a research or internship credit. College isn’t real.
I would fuck the OG ponies everthoughbeit
>>25510812Kill All Normies was boringThe New Right by Michael Malice was a decent readNever saw 4chan namedropped in any fiction yet
>>25510812>>25510833oh and So You've Been Publically Shamed by Jon Ronson (good read) has a chapter talking about 4chan, but it's not about people being shamed for chudly tweets or anything, he interviews some old-school /b/tards who were part of a cancel mob
I can't believe bronyphobia still exists in 2026. For shame.
Tao Lin mentioned /lit/ in that one book
>>25510812No but I would love to read one that explores the way not only jokes and memes but also approaches to different topics and stances have evolved within a clearly defined cultural context. I remember when I was becoming a hipster in my first year of college and Lana Del Rey's Lust for Life album had just been released, I sought reviews of it that would explore how she and her songs matured to be seemingly profound, at least with regards to melody and composition, if not lyrics. How her fanbase either matures with her or distances itself from her, now that she doesn't exclusively sing about getting bent on pool tables or seducing old rich cattle herders at gas stops, how her aesthetic changed from trashy to hippy and at times elegant, how that aesthetic was perhaps the drawing factor more so than the music itself, with the red lips and short shorts and fish nets and crop tops. I thought it might have been an interesting exploration of what would have been a tiny culture shift. Instead Fantano's review, the one video of his I've ever watched, used language you'd find in any sort of Rolling Stone-like magazine, and his interpretation of the lyrics was no more interesting than what a child would write about a story in 4th grade to prove he's not functionally illiterate. >And I lust for life! >Here, Lana talks about how she has not had enough of life and wants to live it more!Thanks, Fantano. Anyway, if there was a book which explored 4chan's progression from anarchism, to libertarianism, to trad-Cath larping, to its growing popularity in the late 10s and its being with filled with bots and shitheads from twitter and reddit now, I'd be very interested to read it. Of course this evolution I've mentioned here is very superficial, but I'm not a fucking author now am I
>>25510812The downside of all social media becoming 4chan is that 4chan has become reddit.
>>25510818>Usagi>random anime girlHoly pleb.
>>25510833The new right is good, but it’s starting to show its age. Some of it isn’t relevant anymore
>>25510812designers needed for ongoing meme wars
>>25510812"Nightmare Alchemy" is such an incredibly childless turn of phrase. >>25510825A microcosm of the death of the west lmao. I've been there too.
>>25510812i haven't read this one but have read other zero books books even though i am not a gaypinko.
>>25510812It's so funny to me that people still get triggered over 4chan when the place is now a corpse being desecrated by jeets.
There was a textbook I read awhile back about radicalism that had a chapter on incels which mentioned /r9k/.
>>25511824very sad
>>25511100>book which explored 4chan's progression from anarchism, to libertarianism, to trad-Cath larping, to its growing popularity in the late 10s and its being with filled with bots and shitheads from twitter and reddit nowI imagine that would be incredibly hard given A) 4chan is still seen as something you shouldn't associate with because of bullshit MSM campaigns against the website (gamergate and the original article that led to the "You dun goofed" meme), B) threads get deleted by jannies after they have been archived, C) Not all websites that archive 4chan threads (like 4plebs) archive every board. D) Of the websites that have done some archiving, the furtherest back they go is the mid 2010s and no further past that
>>25510833It's been namedropped a bunch -- especially by writers from here.
>>25510827Me too. I remember when I was 11 years old whackin it to MLP and then my grandpa barged in and told me he'd disown me. Good times.
>>25510812Picrel is about imageboard culture.
>>25511109In what way? 4chan doesn't have any sort of karma system, it doesn't catalog everything an user has ever said on the site, and isn't ran by micro-fascist admins. Also, you can't create your own board on 4chan.
>>25511824India has the most people on the planet, so obviously a lot of people from India would end up here if it is undesirable
>>25511859Sounds interesting. i'll add it to my reading list
Reading any book about imageboard culture, nonfiction or fiction, sounds insufferable, even if it were written by someone who used them. I heard of some movie involving imageboard culture that seemed interesting at first, but upon reading the plot summary on Wikipedia it sounded revolting and was about "incels" and /tttt/ trannies. I don't think it's possible to make any kind of good media about imageboards. It just becomes "anonymous hacker known as 4chan" shit.
>>25511868Brilliant contribution, anon
>>25511861A website it's more than its interface. Users are the soul, and unforwith us the soul assumes the form of the body.4chan may not have a karma system, but the lack of resistance and a dwindling organic userbase makes it easy for bad actors to take over and become a majority, shifting consensus and board culture into adopting the "right" opinion. Even redditors began to notice when jeets took over their place and they did so because the popular opinion was swaying in different direction from the one they are used to. In essence, it's the core of The Camp of the Saints.
>>25511859Wasn't able to find a good file on oceanofpdf and Anna's archive had two pdfs available but the first one refused to download and the second one had a red triangle next to it
>>25511852>I imagine that would be incredibly hardOf course. I wasn't thinking, though, of a book written by some sort of internet historian who'd quote and show actual posts and source his claims, but rather the memoirs of a well-spoken oldfag who was consistently in tune with not only chan culture, but also general internet culture and the offline zeitgeist. Tracking online pessimism and extremism parallel to unfolding of real life events, separating between what's ironic and what is malicious and noting how the joking and larping of one became the assumed identity of the next. Meme magic was a terrible thing and I do genuinely believe anons bought into it to support Trump. How much 4chan worked to influence the 2016 elections can only be overstated, but it seemed that the spirit of voting him because he made fun of Jeb did penetrate into the real world and did ultimately bring us all where we are.I'll probably write an essay about it that I'll never finish and no one will read when I relapse.
>>25510812Self-published wank? Seems very unserious as a work about the rise of nationalism in the 21st century.
