You're not well read if you're not keeping up with your contemporaries. Anyone can read the same books by dead men, made canonical by other dead men long before your time. Can you be avant-garde? Can you spot a masterpiece before it's recognized as such?
>>25510894>names and titles in lowercaseOpinion dismissed
>>25510894my contemporaries are all retarded. im retarded as well. why would i not read shit from people who were not retarded and whose works aced the test of time?
>>25510959If you really have no taste or intelligence of your own to be able to evaluate books for yourself and need to use time as a filter, then you're also too dumb to actually understand and appreciate the classics.
>>25510894Contemporary novels are woke shit. LGBTQ reimaginings of everything. Feminist anti-men rape fantasies. Ebonics ooga booga white people are evil horseshit. All written with a basic YA vocabulaty. There. All caught up with every contemporary novel.
too many foids
you read rising up and rising down? shit doesn't even exist. anyway all the known contemporary greats are called out as such on the week of their release, i don't think it'd take much discernment to keep up with the literary times>>25510960>too dumb to appreciate the classicsno such thing, in general.
>>25510960me, personally ? I wouldn't want to out myself as a retarded person on the internet, not even if it's anonymous like this. But that's what's so great about free will, people can do n'importe quoi.
grim as fuckI would take ten of these, selected at random, over the entirety of OP's list with zero hesitation
>retard includes translations of original works published in the 20th Century >bunch of lowbrow charlatans like missouri williams, lisa robertson, etc., whose entire fame and literary import is solely owing to her being a woman
>women, browns, jewsKek
>>25510894Are you the (or one of the) original creator of this list? Diverse list of authors; probably why it was picked because they were translated and more exposure to non-American. I think it should be renamed to 'best novel...' instead of 'book', but then there is one outlier - Vollmann essay book series. Poetry and plays are missing.
>>25510966This is my feeling as well.
Who made this? Some good picks, some bad ones. The year isnt over yet but still, Transcription is a very mid choice. Should've said A Table for Fortune
>>25510960Trvke
>>25510894I wonder how much the authors having "cool looking" names contributed to their achievements. That distribution seems atypical from all perspectives except that of "cool sounding name" to me. "Missouri Williams" is especially egregious but I assume it's a pen name.And if I could find avant garde masterpieces (I can't I'm dumb) I certainly wouldn't go looking for them among the darlings of ossified western institutions.
>>25510960NTA but it's more about limited time. It would take me decades to get through my current reading list with anything approaching sufficient understanding.
>>25511317>A Table for Fortune>3096 pages>described as a family drama, bildungsroman, and national epicIs this just a really highbrow royal road webnovel basically Unironically pretty cool if so. I think the format has untapped potential.
It's fascinating how intense the opposition on /lit/ is to reading anything new. Posters will use the same handful of rationalizations over and over. They become hysterical in defense of their ignorant absolutism. If these people were around at any other point in literary history, what would they be reading? Whatever was considered safe to read 75 years before. This shows a lot of things about a person, but mainly fear.
>>25510894Any german anons around that can give some good recs for contemporary german stuff?
>>25510974Yup. And most female authors are awful and write about the same boring shit women tend to write about. Waah waah sexual violence, glass ceilings, rape fantasies bdsm fantasies power trips and other smut. Most women write about smut and their periods, or some adjacent subject. It's exhausting.
>>25511338I'm going to be completely transparent and honest with you. The very first book I looked up from this chart was about "exploring the destructive power of gendered language." I wouldn't consider myself well read or an academic. I want to read the western canon, I want to read things relevant to my interests, and there's a lot of it, more than I could ever get through in my life. So for me it's better to put my head down and keep pushing through what I'm pretty confident I'll like and want to spend time on.
>>25511368Please list the female authors you have read and their works that you read
>>25511385Charlotte Roche, Wetlands
>>25511385NTA but reading the hunger games in "AP lit" in highschool permanently ruined my opinion of female authors. I love Austen and Lispector but I've been burned enough to justify slight prejudice. There is a female (inner?) gaze that I find extremely obnoxious, it's at least as bad as Gene Wolfe or whoever talking about LUSCIOUS SOFT BREASTS more than is appropriate but in a very different, subtle way.
>>25511384>So for me it's better to put my head down and keep pushing through what I'm pretty confident I'll like and want to spend time on.This is making excuses and cope, you know that right?
>>25511400I'm NTA but I'm unemployed and spend 4-10 hours a day reading (average of 350 words a minute) and there's no way I'll get through all the shit I want to any time soon, even if I stay unemployed. Why would I or he waste time on YOUR interests rather than our own? Even if we're retarded and following lists mindlessly they're lists that WE chose.Smug condescension is the opposite of salesmanship, do better sweaty. If you think there's value to reading whatever shit you like then explain why rather than doing this gay ass emotional shit. But you're probably just trolling and this is a waste of time.
>>25511392>Women only write about Waah waah sexual violence, glass ceilings, rape fantasies bdsm fantasies power trips and other smut.>I know what I should read, the book that is only famous because it is about Waah waah sexual violence, glass ceilings, rape fantasies bdsm fantasies power trips and other smut.>>25511399>NTA but reading the hunger games in "AP lit" in highschool permanently ruined my opinion of female authorsLOL. Was that last year, pal? Maybe you'll get assigned something a little better in senior year AP lit.
>>25511409More excuse making and coping. You are saying you are too stupid and too bad at time management to have the mental capacity to try anything besides what the authorities tell you is good and will align with your "interests." You literally sound like you just walked in from /v/.
>>25511410It was 18 years ago I think. If you want something from this year I recently and at long last gave Woolf a try and had my biases confirmed: Not for me. Are you going to say anything of substance or just keep seething?
>>25511412Lolwut? What authorities? The book police?
>>25511413So you're in your mid-30s, and you maintain the same biases you had when you read The Hunger Games in high school? Truly hilarious.
>>25511431Yes, just as I (and hopefully you) also retain the conviction, forged in childhood, that it's bad to shit your pants. Or have you been experimenting there as well as in literature?
>>25511437You must have had such a terrible experience in AP English, I'm sorry, because it seems they soured you on basic reasoning skills too. Did a woman write your textbook? But hey, even old dogs can be taught new tricks, there's still hope for you!
>>25511447...so you *do* shit your pants?Just like feminist literature: That's not for me. To each his own I guess.
Kek this buttblasted fag always comes into threads related to women writers to cry that some lowbrow hack isn’t respected on this board
Board is dead. Its two people arguing on their superior taste
>>25511528I was samefagging the entire thread, you're the first reply that wasn't me. You might me be as well.
>>25510960/lit/ isn't ready to hear this kind of trvke>>25510894>chartGood chart>Last Samuraikino>Rising Up and Rising Downkino>2666kino>Kenzaburo OeHaven't read this one (Death By Water) but loved A Personal Matter>My Brilliant FriendKino>The Baudelaire FractalKino>The DoloriadKino>TranscriptionKino>SuicideMy favorite on this chart, kino Thanks for this OP, lots of good recommendations here
>>25511535Lol
>>25511530>>25511535>>25511539All me
>>25511460You read Woolf last year. Did you shit your pants last year too, just to make sure your bias is still right?
>>25511567*This year. Work on your reading comprehension, dear.And no I haven't, just as I've never revisited the hunger games or Ayn Rand.
>>25511542I hate 4chan for this man. Can't tell shit. I want to contact OP to discuss more but they are gone
>>25510960TPBP
>>25511716If it makes you feel better I was just larping, there are at least four people in this thread Our poor ol 4chinz is dying. IDK what I'll do when it's gone. Discord and twitter are abysmal.
>>25511720Got you. While, obviously they haven;t read every work published in each year, I want to know the perspective bridging maximalist 2666 to more minamlist Belladonna. It is simply selectivly acclaimed works (even fi I haven't heard of some prior, there is plenty of ratings on every work) from each year for the sake of compiling this list, or some kind of connection
>>255117204chan is dead. 4chan remains dead. And we have shitposted it to death. How shall we entertain ourselves, the trollers of all trollers? What was cringest and basedest of all that the web has yet spawned has been shitposted to death under our words: who will wipe this frogs off us? What effort-posting is there for us to become autodidacts?
>>25510894> No White-Male American writers.Trans fags think their opinion worth a dim
>>25511735Ever since that fucker Elon bought twitter, alot of chuds move to the platform to talk their shit. But what I don't understand is the lit users.. where do they went? Fucking discord? Where's the invite. Makes me sound desperate but I am
>>25511716You need to return to website. Faggot
>>25511539>>25511542>>25511720>funni funni funni! so funni! I'm so funni!>>25512115>You think that anon's annoying? Well uhh REDDITsigh
>>25511218He saw it on twitter and thought it'd make good bait
>whaaaat? You mean you havent read Joshua Schwartz' All The Stars In The River? The semi-autobiographical but totally true memoir about his past life in Auschwitz? The winner of the Booker Prize, Pulitzer Prize, Newberry Award, Netenyaho Medal, Astroturf Award, Nebula Award, and Oprah's book club pick of the year? You have to read it! It'll change your life! I used to think nazis were bad but now after reading this I think all Germans, nazi or not, need to be genocided for what they did! Yeah. I'm really missing out by reading medieval literature instead.
>>25512351Saaaaaar
>>25512319So its from twitter?I see most of lit online discourse have move to there, but I adamantly refuse to go on that hellpit. The word limitation without subscription is bullshit.
>>25512351I don't think any of these books won the Booker, Pulitzer, Newberry, Oprah, or whatever. You don't really know what you're talking about but you want to think this ignorance makes you superior to others, probably because you base too much of your self-worth on being intelligent and knowledgeable about "niche" books, so when you encounter a list of "niche books" you know nothing about, you experience it as a threat to your ego and construct a reason to be contemptuous to preserve your self-image. Please try to be different, or at least not be so transparent
>>25512670Lots of character assumption on a shitpost
>>25510960dis nigga ain't cellaring his wine lmao
if I cared about my contemporaries I'd just leave the house
>>25511412trying too hard
