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What say you to the theory that the French are hated most because they "know better"?
How is it that the French have garnered such hate over the centuries, besides all of the things they've done, I mean.
Between you and me, I think France will use the first officially acknowledged nuclear bomb strike since the US, which has had a time agnostic ripple effect outwards which has subtly influenced global opinion of the French, and further, has contributed to their own morbidity.

Is there anyone besides baudelaire, flaubert, *erhem*?
No? honhonhon, forgive me, but I cannot say!
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no reason at all. it's just a meme of americans resulting from historical rivalry between France and England.
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>>25513633
bad morals, poor hygiene, passive-aggressive behavior. that is the gist of their culture.
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There is no other country with a more legendary history (up until Waterloo or 1870 if we're kind) and greater art pedigree than France, so that might rustle the jimmies of anyone who isn't French. And honestly it's good that people hate us, reminds everyone that the idea of a unified homogenous Europe is retarded, and that being kind is always what has cost us the most.

Also American propaganda played a great part too obviously.
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>>25513911
To what propaganda do you refer? Througout my life I've only ever heard two recurrent descriptions of the french, that you're libertines, and that you're cowards, but as far as what was taught in our schools, you guys are friendlies who helped us out back in the day. I hardly hear a peep about France in day to day conversation, not since the paris car attacks, really.
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>>25513920
CIA doing everything to move the art capital of the world from Paris to Washington, Anti-De Gaulle propaganda (which is where the "cowards" thing came from), and freedom fries. And nowadays everyone jokes about Fr*nce out of nowhere, which is fine, but then people actually fall for it and every XX_WhiteNationalist_88 teenager on xitter constantly shits on France and receives 90 bazillion likes (and all of this doesn't seem organic to me).
It's true though that starting from the 17th century the French started being seen as libertine and volatile. Also, it's unfortunately true that historically we've been very open to foreign cultures and that doesn't look good for us in a world where foreign cultures are replacing the European ones
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>>25513633
I find it strange that they have an extremely xenophobic culture but for some reason they have the most immigrants
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>>25513633
France is the closest fully nuclear armed nato country to Russia but I'm not sure what would have to happen for them to launch one. Even under the premise of Le Pen winning the next election it's more likely she pardons herself and says some shit that causes everyone to go on strike and threaten to come up with a new government. They won't. It will go on for some weeks regardless.

As far as superiority of culture that is mostly propaganda and their willingness to export their own national brand.

As far as philosophy goes you are likely onto something. I've had a theory for some time that Descartes was an outlier in terms of his philosophy. Most French thinkers rarely admit it but they all generally have this existential distrust of the French language. A fair portion of them also develop structuralist style arguments wherein they just pre-emptively rid their works of things that cause other philosophers to hate things like mass dissemination or even AI chatbots. Whenever you see some non-French commentator claim a French thinker is difficult it likely is due to not fully grasping how far removed they become through lack of trust. Why this is mostly a French thing I can't comment on, I also have no tangible way to make this anymore than a theory.
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>>25514051
>Existential distrust of the French language
I think it was Tolstoy who said that russian was a rough language, best for being frank, but that french was best for deceit.



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