>all of Dublin, including Bloom himself, regards him as a Jew>he's not actually a Jew by Jew standards since his mother was a goyThe irony is very thick in this book right from the start.
I thought you were a Jew as long as your father was a Jew? Solomon's mother was a Gentile but he's still considered Jewish.
>>25536613I've always heard Jewishness is matrilineal, am I wrong?
>>25536620Yes, and you'd know you're wrong if you'd even read the first Book of the Holy Bible.
What compels someone to read all of Ulysses and understand none of it
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>>25536602all the faggiest bullshit is about jews
>>25536602He's also introduced eating pork offal and is uncircumcised and is baptized in the Catholic Church and views the actual Jews in the book as people that aren't his own.
>>25536696> look, its the great irish novel> its about jewswhen can the jews be slaughtered so i dont have to read about them any more
>>25536613>>25536620>>25536639All right, fuckers, let's consult the slop machine
>>25536696kek I completely forgot that's a PORK kidney he's eating in "Calypso." And yeah, Jews aren't supposed to eat offal, are they? Not of any animal.
>>25536718Maybe he did one of those magic jew tricks like tying a piece of sting around the dinner table or using a fork with a special plastic handle and having a goy pre-cut the meat and then only chewing on the left side of the mouth.
>>25536752I think the point of it all is that Bloom is not actually a Jew according to the Jews' own standards, but all of Dublin is prejudiced against him for it anyway.
>nobody's mentioned all the freemason shit bloom fantasized overhuh.
>>25536602Just like Adorno
>Wins money gambling>Gets called a money-grubbing jew and is physically assaulted
>>25536805It's not about anything. There's no moral to it or undercurrent that needs to be explored. It's just people doing things. Joyce said that himself. Ulysses can be better understood as the pilot episode of Seinfield with Bloom as Jerry, Molly as Elaine, and Stephen as Kramer.
>Chud literary analysis
>>25538898Who's Costanza? Buck Mulligan?
>>25539245Buck Costanza has an amazing ring to it
>>25538883Bloom doesn't even place a bet. Bantam Lyons mishears him, and thinks he's giving him a tip.
>>25536707catholic philosophy is at the bedrock of Irish history. At the part in Ithaca where stephen and bloom take a huge piss at the end of the night, Stephen thinks about how jesus's circed foreskin is the "carnal bridal ring" of the catholic church. a work like his dealing with so much theory of religion is bound to run into jews
>25536707go back to your containment shit hole, victim
>>25539522>catholic philosophy is at the bedrock of Irish historyLOL no. Even the Citizen knows better than that.
>>25539527I shouldn't have said bedrock, thats the tuatha de danaan and all that. but they fucking ran the place for hundreds of years and gave joyce his education at clongowes
>>25538907>Chud literary analysis>The author literally said this about stated work.You better learn how to read before you start doing literary critique.
>>25536602The Ganges probably doesn't contain even 0.1 percent feces in terms of overall volume or mass, yet nobody sane would think of it as a river that's 99.9 percent clean.
>>25536602>including Bloom himself, regards him as a JewBloom does not identify as a Jew. In the Eumaeus chapter, he says>[The citizen] took umbrage at something or other I let slip. He called me a jew, and in a heated fashion, offensively. So I, without deviating from plain facts in the least, told him his God, I mean Christ, was a jew too, and all his family, like me, though in reality I’m not.
>>25539471Buck Naked was George's fake porno name lmao>>25538898>>25539245Bloom would be George, I think
>>25541691It's kinda funny when libtards and chuds arrive at the same talking points (such as "your God is a jew") but for entirely different reasons and with entirely different conclusions.
>>25541749Jesus wasn't a Jew in any modern sense. The "Judaism" of his time was vastly different from the Rabbinic system practiced now, and the racial admixture with gentiles have resulted in a race of a Jews biologically distant from the sons of Bethlehem.
>>25541915>this level of copeYour religion is nothing but a Jewish psyop. You've been under their thumb for 2,000 years.
>>25541957kys chud
>>25541691>>25541691Bloom is a jew if you take it by the genetic sense. but since he literally became catholic to marry an irish girl he gets the goy pass
>/lit/s weekly antisemitism thread #338
>>25542173>thread is neutral about Jews>OMG ANTISEMITISMhit dogs will holler
>>25542144Also, as >>25536712 points out, Jews themselves wouldn't consider him Jewish because the Judaisms that existed at the time were both matrilineal and his mother wasn't a Jew. Reform Judaism didn't exist in Ireland in 1904.
>>25537178I did in a thread last week. Bloom is a Mason and a cuck (forgive the pleonasm). It's so utterly disappointing that Joyce wasted his time sympathizing with the people who would come to divide Europe (or, at the very least, willingly participate as primary tools in such a sundering). Instead of railing against the Irish language, the people, etc., and trying to solicit sympathy for a so-called outsider, he could have created a new mythos for the Irish people. I get that he was trying to be a humanistic, and that, at the time, this would have seemed pretty edgy and all that, but the constant reminders that Bloom is a Jew throughout are intrusive, to say the least. And Stephen's ruminations about Judaism are also really forced and a bit odd. There would have been, like, five Jews in Dublin at the time. You can see, though, the influence of his primary sponsors, feminist writer Weaver, and the daughter of one of America's greatest scourges, (((Edith Rockefeller McCormick))).
>>25536602>since his motherAnytime someone posts this it's a Mossad agent. There is no such rule and it has no racial basis when goyim can convert.
>>25542385I haven't read the book but I've always got the feeling that Joyce was basically one of the bad guys and up to no good. Maybe it was the people who endorse him or whatnot. Definitely popular among the evil.
>>25542393That is what most people believe, I doubt it is usually a mossad agent posting it.>>25542195oh come on
>>25542419>That is what most people believeBecause it gets repeated by Mossad agents on the internet over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Every day on 4chan.If you believe one single jew ever got denied Israeli citizenship on account of descending from the father you're worse than a retard.
>>25542412He's sensational, and he's not quite as evil as a Vanessa Place-type character, but he certainly wasn't aligned with the good guys, so to speak. I think he'd be horrified to see what some of the Blooms of Europe and Ireland have done to it. For an aesthete like him, watching Ireland get dragged down into a truly inartistic psychic space once again would have probably been distressing. And to know that he had a small part in it might be equally so. He couldn't have known what was on the horizon, so I give him a bit of a pass, but I would argue that he chose the wrong path with his messaging and affiliations. The fact that he was Jesuit-educated is another can of worms that would take a great deal of time to "unpack," as they say. Basically, Joyce occupies the same territory as Shakespeare for me. Shakespeare was an anti-royalist, and, in some ways, a provocateur (especially if you buy into the Rosicrucian angle), and, like Joyce, I also think he also advocates for socially damaging perspectives at times. It's no wonder we go an entire "Scylla and Charybdis" chapter dedicated to the ol' Billy Bard in "Ulysses."
>>25542444I find Shakespeare solidly Christian in a way Joyce is not. At the very least his plays inhabit a Christian universe in a way I would not say Ulysses does.
>>25542455I think that's largely because people still believed with all their hearts in those days. Pre-Enlightenment faith was entirely different than what Joyce would have grown up with. Hell, Nietzsche had already come and gone by the time Joyce got going as an artist. Joyce was navigating a world of collapsing faith, and he, if anything, wanted to facilitate more of that collapse.
>>25542458I do think Joyce is damaging. I say this as somebody who wrote his master's thesis on Joyce, who's presented at conferences on Joyce, who may wind up getting my PhD specifically to do more Joyce studies. He's undoubtedly brilliant and he's definitely up to something interesting. But do I agree with him? I'd say I don't.
>>25542459>who wrote his master's thesis on Joyce>who's presented at conferences on Joyce>who may wind up getting my PhD specifically to do more Joyce studiesBut have you read Finnegans Wake?
>>25542485About to read it for the first time, actually. I'm the guy who made the "just finished Ulysses for the third time" thread a week or so ago. I've been reading or rereading everything Joyce had published in his lifetime. The Wake is my last stop, the end of the road. I'm going to try it.Going to watch some anime first, though, to give my brain a bit of a break before the plunge.
Joyce probably owes his popularity in academic and bourgeois circles not in small part to being more or less the only man of some merit in the anglo modernism of his generation who is ideologically kosher for the post-war era. Not to say that he didn't make it on his own merits first and foremost, but let's be honest, he's a man with two arms in a tournament where every other fighter has to keep an arm bound behind themselves.
>>25542517I'm not exactly going to apologize for the Nazis but it's undoubtedly the case that the Postwar Era has been absolute dogshit. Britain and France forced to dismantle their empires, the entire world in the thrall of the Americans and the Soviets, and then just the Americans, fucking Israel coming into existence, the Church cucking out hard with Vatican 2. The Boomers, the Hippies, 1968.It's to the point that I'm actually happy 9/11 happened, and then that Trump is wrecking-ball-ing his way into demolishing the rest. We needed to get out of the End of History, it was literally killing us in the West.
>>25542528>1968What specifically about 1968?
>>25536712the idea of patrilineal descent is retarded since intelligence is primarily passed down through the mother. not to say women are intelligent, but the lower bounds buffer of intelligence is supported by the mother's intelligence. thus, a man cannot be intelligent if his mother is a dullard, no matter how smart his father is. this is why it's important to choose a moderately intelligent woman as a wife, so at least she does not nerf the intelligence your ancestors spent so long selecting for. which is another aspect of judaism.
>>25542999probably the student riots in france he's talkimbout
>>25543499De Gaulle should have turned the Army on those entitled brats. So much of the shittiness of the last 100 years is nobody telling the Boomers "No," in one country after another.
>>25542459Just further proof that academic study kills one's enjoyment of a subject.
>>25542128Truth hurts.
>>25543764kill yourself
>>25542489Reading Vico's New Science beforehand is absolutely necessary. I recommend Donald Phillip Verene's works Vico and Joyce, and James Joyce and the Philosopher's at Finnegans Wake (where I got the excerpt I posted,) if Vico is too confusing. I also highly recommend Roland McHugh's The Sigla of Finnegans Wake.Do not use Joseph Campbell's Skeleton Key. I know it's very popular, but Campbell knew nothing about Vico.
>>25543818No. LOLUMAD?
>>25544182kill yourself
>>25544446dont talk to my dad like that. i see you on the ledge
>>25544005I had this book recommended to me for all of Joyce's work as a whole, by somebody at the International James Joyce Symposium once.
>>25544449kill yourself
>>25544446kill yourself
>>25545731kill yourself
>>25545734kill yourself>inb4 kill yourself
>>25545761commit suicide
>>25543012Yeah the whole "omg a dumb woman is so hot" shit is a psyop.
>>25542444>Jesuits are atheist
