How come the apocalypse didn't happen in the 1st century like Jesus said it would?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew
>>25550987So Christians invented a myth to explain why Jesus' prophecy failed?
>>25550996He's not a myth.
>>25551029Why was there no written mention of him before the 12th century?
>>25550987Is this a joke? So the line in OP doesn't hold, but there's a magical cursed immortal jew who is still alive from that time, and that's why the verse holds? Is this a fucking joke?
>>25551039I'm not sure. They may have been destroyed.
>>25551095Or such records of the wandering jew probably never existed in the first place. This is as if Mormons were claiming that "early Christians wrote records saying that Joseph Smith will receive golden tablets from angels 1800 years in the future but the records were destroyed"
>>25551093Both can be true.
>>25551093welcome to serious bible study, none of it makes sense, that's why it always comes back to "faith"
>>25551099Many ancient records have been lost or hidden. He will presumably outlast many records of himself.
>>25551131>Many ancient records have been lost or hiddenThat isn't an excuse to invent contrivances to explain blatantly failed prophecies.
>>25551143He wasn't invented.
>>25551112yes but why do you not feel compelled to give the same benefit of doubt to, say, Quran, which probably has equally insane theories? Or Talmud? Or theosophy? It can be true.
>>25551147I'm not too familiar with those books, but I would give them credit where credit is due.
>>25550964This along with the "problem of evil" rapes christcuckoldry irrevocablyIf you're still a christcuck you're willfully ignorant
>>25550964This homily explains it well. It’s not about the end of the world but the world being “re-born” through Christian love. Give it a listen even if you’re skeptical:https://youtu.be/6B4XJkXksh4
>>25551307>It’s not about the end of the world Jesus: "The end is nigh! You must flee to the mountains! Don't even go home to get your cloaks! The stars will fall, the moon and sun will darken! There will be earthquakes, famines. You will see the son of Man coming on clouds, with angels on trumpets, he will gather ALL of the elect to him. And NONE of you will die until ALL of this happens!"Coping Priest/Pastor/whatever they call themselves: " Actually, this isn't the apocalypse, this is a metaphor for the world being reborn through Christian love!"
>>25550964By "this generation" he meant humanity as a whole. Common mistake.
>>25551226Christianity is too central for people to understand how to let go of it without becoming 'atheist', as if you can't have God unless you figure out how the big pile of shit called the Bible makes sense.
>>25550964Ask the Jews what happened to Isreal within that generation of people
>>25550964>he doesn't even know that it's 51 AD and the entire tangible world is an illusion conjured by the devil to try to lure the faithful into apostasy before the day of the Lord can dawn*laughs in Horselover Fat*
>atheist circle jerk centralGreat this place is gonna become like /his/
>>25551226lol man how low IQ do you have to be to think the problem of evil is some kind of check mate
The Greek word "genea" also signifies race/family/kind and not merely a specific age bracket (how OP interprets its translation as "generation"). Also, the word "genea" is used repeatedly in Matthew and connotes unbelievers/those who rebel against God as a group. Once again a fedora demonstrates Mark 4:11–12 and Matthew 13:10–15.
It was just a prank bro, don't be mad!
>>25551324jesus never said that
>>25550964You already know the usual excuses, words don't mean words, translations don't translate, it was only meant for those people at that time, it was a metaphor except it wasn't, etc.
"generation" in the broad sense ie: the human generation
>Makes it perfectly here that you weren't here in the beginning like He was and therefore its fruitful to even try to understand His waysI swear all you guys do is pretend not to understand something that was already spelled out for you.
>>25551333>>25552541>>25554561Copes that no one believed during the first 1000 years of the religion
>>25554581>it's illogical and and contradicts itself and has numerous failed prophecies but that's actually because you're not supposed to understand itOhhhhh
>>25551039why is paul split into 3 different people across 7 centuries? almost like history was deliberately manipulated to bury certain events and persons
>>25551333>hey, if we redefine the meanings of words, the Bible actually makes senset. least dumb apologist
>>25554681>if we redefine the meanings of wordsYou mean like pretending the Koine word "genea" is 1:1 equivalent to the modern term "generation" while completely ignoring its fuller meaning and how it was used in line with such a translation throughout the very text currently under discussion?
>>25551324>" Actually, this isn't the apocalypse, this is a metaphor for the world being reborn through Christian love!"Yes
>>25551324>>25554585It's both, read the old testament.Jews talk of the apocalypse in OT prophecies when they are under foreign rule all the time. Eschatological language is used both for the world at large and for Israel because ancient Israel saw its own end as the end of the world. The idea of apocalypse being the end of everything kind of is a modern invention. Ancient peoples saw it as a renewal and change in world order, the word itself means revelation. On top that like all tribal religions Israel saw the altar as the center of the cosmos, a destruction of the temple is a destruction of Israel. Guess what, Jesus said his body is the temple, and the destruction of this temple is followed by the destruction of the Jewish temple and of Israel.>Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.>and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?>then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountainsThe end of the age is the end of second temple Judaism. The new testament is Jesus and the temple is Him, the offshoot religion is Talmudic Judaism which is comprised of the Jews who rejected the good news. Tracking with OT, revelations is written right after the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD and it both refers to the end of the world and the end of ancient Israel. Like all important texts the bible has multiple layers, you can't just decide it has one meaning and scrutinize it. This is so widely recognized not even the most prolific atheists use it as an argument, they'd rather say Paul invented Christianity or something like that.
>>25554666>schizo ramblings>666
>>25555471>Like all important texts the bible has multiple layers, you can't just decide it has one meaning and scrutinize itAgain, the reading you're endorsing was not shared by anyone during the first few hundred years, if not first thousand years of Christianity—it was an apocalyptic religion through and through. We didn't come up with a better reading of the text thousands of years later, we molded it after the original reading became untenable
>>25557326He's not schizo. trillions have been employed and paid luxurious bounties for muddying the historical record with floods of power, corruption, and lies. Meanwhile plain and true records get burned, hidden, and destroyed so that false ones can stand in their place. When you understand you are eating the ersatz chicken there is no going back.
>>25557349Please tell more or atleast leave some breadcrumb trailWhy did they care to spend trillions? To get zillions?
>>25557335>Again, the reading you're endorsing was not shared by anyone during the first few hundred years, if not first thousand years of Christianity—it was an apocalyptic religion through and through.NTA. You're completely wrong about this and should feel embarrassed about being so adamant while obviously lacking knowledge of the subject.
Mathew 24 is considered with the judgment on and the destruction of the Jerusalem and their temple as well as an allusion to Mathew 26 where Jesus told Caiaphas “from now on you will see the son of man seated at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven” all of these allude to Daniel 7 All of these verses allude the vindication and the enthronement of the son of man in heaven not in coming down to earth, in Daniel 7 the son of man came with the clouds of heaven, not down to earth but up to the ancient of days, there was a judgment and the kingdom was handed to the son of man, that’s why Jesus said that he from that point forward was coming on the clouds of heaven while yet being seated at the right hand of power, this has nothing to do with a figure coming down from heaven to earth but again speak of an exaltation of one who is raised up from suffering given a throne to sit on doing royal power. And of course similar langue is found throughout the Old Testament Deuteronomy 33, the lord come from Sinai with them was myriads of Holy ones. the past judgment of Egypt was described in this way Isaiah 19, the lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes to Egypt. Ezekiel 30 described the lords day a day of clouds. The past conquest of Jerusalem and Samaria was described as the lord coming. The clouds are the dust of gods feet during gods judgment during Nineveh and when the first temple was destroyed Jeremiah described it as god coming up like clouds. So again This coming was a metaphor used to describe when god came in judgement
>>25551307Isn't this the guy who attacked another catholic after she got fired from some government position for pointing out that catholics aren't theological-zionists?
