Jungians, how has the analysis of your dreams changed your life?
>>25560377fuck off.
>JungiansYou mean pseudo-intellectual fags?
Some sleep paralysis stories:https://youtube.com/watch?v=VtR71DL9UBI
>>25560402jesus fucking christ that is god awful.
I tried it but I can never be too sure I get it.Well, some dreams are more straightforward than others.
>>25560388You know more about consciousness than the CIA?
I've been writing down my dreams upon awakening for about ten years, give or take. There have been periods during which I stopped doing it, but overall it's been a fairly regular habit of mine, that I actually started before even knowing who Jung was. As of today I have a corpus of approximately 600 dreams recorded from my early adulthood to right now (late twenties).Lately I've undertaken a project consisting in analyzing this corpus systematically in order to better interpret it and discern broad unconscious patterns, symbols and tendencies that span this ten-year period. In doing so, I hope to be able to notice evolutions, narratives and internal changes as well as archetypal motifs that might be insightful. I didn't feel like doing the tedious work myself so I used an LLM for the technical part of splitting the corpus into parsable elements, extracting information and grouping it into semantic fields, etc.At the same time, I've started rereading my old dreams and immersing myself into all of this material. Shortly before the idea of starting this project came to me, I had felt an urge to start actively writing down (and even drawing from memory, as I kept a notebook and pencil on my bed for this purpose) my dreams, and had also experienced a 2-3 week period of intense, heavily symbolic dreams that seemed to form an interconnected narrative.The work is still ongoing, and is going slower than I'd like due to other obligations, but so far I have noticed some interesting, clear patterns that point towards genuine psychical change having taken place within me around the time period of my conversion to Christianity, which has left a strong enough mark on my unconscious that my dreams have started reflecting this shift through symbols, settings, characters and narratives. Another thing I've noted is that there are indeed some recurring motifs that are essentially a "part of me", or at least, of my unconscious landscape, to the extent that they appear almost systematically in my dreams; these motifs, too, have evolved, but they remain an integral part of my dream world. I have theories on what they might mean and what they imply regarding my life, but in any case, they are currently evolving in a way that I can only interpret as being hopeful and positive. Although everything is still kind of murky and unclear and I'm not done sifting through the corpus, I feel like this recent work has given me a useful understanding of what my unconscious is like, what it's building towards and what it's trying to tell me through various symbols repeated throughout the years; at the very least, my idea of what I "need to do" is clearer now and I can now see where I'm heading after a decade spent in relative darkness.
jungians are subhuman filth ngl
Helped me navigate my own day to day life; understand myself and my inner conflicts far better; and helped me decode the symbolism my subconscious throws at me. When I kept an extensive dream journal my life was actually very well ordered and structured, even though on the exterioir it was incredibly chaotic (partying, working different menial jobs, etc). I should start again but I'm just lazy now, and can't force myself out of my stupor to write my dreams down when all I want is an extra 10 minutes in bed, which by the time that passes the dream is simply a vauge outline to me.
>>25560492Quite based but do you feel secure knowing you've handed your subconsciousness to AI and tech oligarchs on a silver platter? I kept dream journal entries on my Google Keep app some years ago and that unnerves me enough.
>>25560512What do you think they could do with it? The corpus does contain very personal and intimate parts of myself, but I have always treated and will always treat LLMs as tools for data extraction and organization and nothing more.
>>25560492>left a strong enough mark on my unconscious that my dreams have started reflecting this shift through symbols, settings, characters and narrativesI have noticed such changes by merely using my intuition and I don’t regard myself as an intuitive person, otherwise I would have been a great mathematician and physician (which I’m , but not great).
>>25560377Using Jungian psychology to analyze your dreams is for dipshits. You're supposed to use it to analyze religious texts.
>>25560525"Using intuition" essentially just means being attentive to the movement of the unconscious, so that makes sense.>>25560527Jung's main mistake was his tendency to reduce religious material to psychic phenomena.
>>25560505Your mom is subhuman filth, thats why she gave birth to you
>>25560377Not really, but I do it anyways. Had a dream last night three 90s rappers tried stabbing me.
>>25560377Freud's Interpretation of Dreams is miles better than any jungian analysis.
>>25560637lmao
>>25560637Freud is great to understand the Jewish mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLuKby8XlsClickbait title but extremely interesting video that goes in depth into Jung's life and how he likely suffered ritual abuse during childhood, is descended from Goethe, and other things.
>>25560377her eyes are pretty
>>25560523Peter Thiel is going to mind rape you.
>>25560525The 4 functions are as basic as the 4 operations, everyone can and does use them.
>>25560639Have you read it? >>25560645I'm talking about The Interpretation of Dreams, not his developed psychoanalysis.
>>25560388You're on /lit/ bro, there's zero room for such grand-standing.
>>25560721Cry more, battyboy
>>25560703Hopefully that pedo stops at mindraping
>>25560703>implying I'll take the brain chip
>>25560703Peter Thiel, the dysgenic jew, only rapes little boys in Argentina now that his fellow jewish pedo supplier epstein is dead
>>25560717>Have you read it?I read about a third and dropped it. Truly inferior to jungian theory in all aspects
>>25560740>you'll have a choice
>>25560795You always have a choice.
>>25560377Helps me come up with symbols for my poetry.
>>25560821That’s because you’re retarded
>>25560828Golem-tier post
>>25560402>>25560414Fuck off samefag no one wants to watch your shitty videos
>>25560377Who is the hotty desu ka?All my Jung i learned through Evangelion and it just makes me horny.
>>25560751Is it really? Everytime I analyze my dreams I come to the conclusion that they are the wish fullfilment of an annoyance from the last day. Meanwhile with Jung I can perceive certain archetypes like the shadow or the anima but I end up not knowing exactly what the whole dream mean. Can you or any other anon give me one analysis of their dreams? I know they might be private but we are in an anonymous website after all.
>>25560912An important aspect of analyzing dreams is that symbols are mostly idiosyncratic, unless we're talking about what Jung called "big" or archetypal dreams which contain universal symbols; but there is no semiotic taxonomy that is not primarily derived from the dreamer's own interpretation.Furthermore, when it comes to "what the whole dream means", it's often not as simple as deriving a single, stable meaning from one dream and being done with it. Sometimes, the dream is contextualized many months after (this happened to me several times), or it is part of a greater whole. Sometimes it can be interpreted directly. It depends.
>>25560912>>25560997With that being said I can give you an example of a recent, striking and emotionally heavy dream I had and the analysis I went through to try to understand it. Maybe that'll give you an idea of the general process (the one I use at least, I'm not a jungian analyst). However it's gonna be a bunch of walls of text so be warned.The dream (copy-pasted from my notes):"I am in an antagonistic position to my parents in the car because they are driving my love to a place where it is agreed that I will never see her again. There is an implication that even when she is old we will not reunite, and this is it. We are driving through the highway in the southern countryside and arriving to Bandol. Uncharacteristically for one of my dreams, it is sunny rather than night. She is my love but there is also the idea that it is sibling like and platonic (as she is young; unambiguously, a child) and there is no romantic or erotic component. I protect her and care for her, she is my treasure and ineffably precious to me. There is this notion of purity of the love I am feeling, that it is not something that has been felt before, and that it will not be felt again: this love between us will be broken now and forever. I beg the driver (a family member of mine?) to not let her wake up so as to not make the farewell heartbreaking. She does wake up, unfortunately. As I tearfully embrace her and tell her mundanities (such as to take her medicine), another passenger, perhaps my mother, snaps in exasperation and says that I haven't even known her for that long, implying that my attachment is excessive. I refrain from telling her that she is only saying that to avoid the guilt from knowing that they are ripping us apart. My father is also in the car and is similarly displeased. During the whole dream, I don't think she (my love) ever actually talks or expresses herself. She is first asleep, then awakens and I say goodbye to her, but she is passive. While asleep, she is on the front passenger seat and I see her from the back. When awakened, she's in the backseat and I'm facing her somehow.While in the backseat, I say (or maybe just think) something along the lines of "I have known many women, but not like her, not like this". The implication is not of "known" in the sexual sense but rather that this love is special; it will not be found elsewhere.The car slows down as we arrive. It is understood that I will get out of the car and that we will not meet again."
>>25560912Cont >>25561000Upon awakening and rereading the dream, there was a spontaneous association: the french town of Bandol is meaningless to me, but as I was writing down the dream, instead of writing "Bandol", I felt like writing "Bardo", i.e. the post-death intermediate state in Vajrayana Buddhism. I'm not a Buddhist, but the term itself acts as a personal placeholder for the idea of a threshold, the definitive passage to another state.Another spontaneous association that came while writing it down was that the child in the dream felt archetypically close to the Kore of classical myth, i.e. Persephone, the numinous image of the child archetype Jung described and which is a stand-in for something important that is emerging from the psyche, not yet realized and thus disproportionately precious, precisely because it has not been made conscious yet.An interesting element is that she never speaks. Nowhere in the dream does she manifest independent will or voice, she exists entirely as an object of my care and grief. This fits a broader pattern where feminine/anima figures throughout my dreams show up in many registers but never coalesce into a figure with a stable and autonomous voice of her own. It's worth noting that the moment she wakes and the goodbye becomes real, I'm suddenly facing her directly, so direct relational contact only becomes possible at the exact instant the connection is being taken away.Another departure from usual patterns: almost all of my dreams take place at night and/or in labyrinthine, underground, massive, enclosed spaces. In this one, the sun was shining brightly, and the car was outside, driving on a highway from which I could see a coastal town. To me, full daylight means that nothing is obscured, the loss happens in total visibility with no liminal cover to make it easier to bear, implying that whatever this dream refers to wanted to be seen clearly.
>>25560912Cont >>25561002Now this dream was the fifth in a series of vivid, disturbing dreams I had over the course of ten days, and it was the final one of that "series". I won't elaborate on the other ones because this is already long-winded enough but the other dreams all dealt with feminine figures, traversing thresholds, and farewells. I haven't resolved them into a clean narrative, because they would elude it, but they've arrived during a stage in my life where I am quite literally being asked to discern what to keep and what to release (would rather not go into specific detail). As such, for the time being, I interpret this series of dreams and especially the one I posted to be a pretty heavy-handed way for the unconscious mind to signal that I am passing through something, that something is going to be severed and that confronting this is very important before whatever comes next can happen. Considering I haven't had meaningful dreams since, I think I am still in the process, that there is a not yet fully born part of me that needs to cross the threshold of consciousness. At this point I have a pretty good idea of what it is (although it may seem vague to anyone reading this) and I know what I need to do, which is something I've avoided doing for years. Probably why this dream hit so hard as I was literally brought to tears when I woke up and wrote it down.So yeah that's one example of an analysis. I took this one as an example because it's the most vivid and recent, I guess it's not the best template but I think you can still get a pretty good idea of the process from what I wrote.
Institutional academia adjacent anons seething itt that people have found Jung even though he’s fully rejected in their curriculums. Jung took Freud’s base-level and frankly animalistic theory to the next level. He deserves wider notoriety and praise for his contributions than Freud.
