Where do I start with radical feminist texts?
>>25573786She's completely spot on about this. A person far ahead of her time in many respects.
>Meanwhile, the creature who wrote that sentence:
>>25575962Argumentum ad obesium
>give women rights and sexual liberation>they treat men like shit>nobody gets married any more>birth rates craterJust like the last 80 years have proven almost every antisemitic stereotype to be correct, the last 50 years have proven almost every misogynistic stereotype to be correct. Our ancestors DID oppress women and we can see now that they were completely right to do so.
>>25573786she's right, it's almost impossible to conceptualize a sex-having woman as more than a sex doll at least in action, the best you can hope to achieve is to compartmentalize two women in one, a whore and a respectable entity as both being two contradictory faces of the same person.>>25575962do you know how low an animal it makes you to try invalidate someone's view by mocking their looks?
Nobody likes fat chicks.
>>25573786>>25575943>>25575969>>25575991Why is there a fucking female in here? Go away. This website isn't for (You)
>>25575996>991I'm a male and I hate women.
>>25573786I realized Dworkin was right when I realized there's no way to approach women without being rapey.And now that the Cornell current thing is being discussed I see people say how drunk sex used to be normal. So, prior to social media it seems that there were a lot of "blurred lines" involved. Sex used to be even rapier back when people were actually having sex.
>>25573786>sterileWhere did the mad bitch think babies came from?
>>25575943Post weight.
Of course a woman who has only ever been hate-fucked would say that.
>>25576016Except that women actually wanted sex, and didn't scream rape every time.
>>25575991>invalidate someone's view by mocking their looksNot so much her view as her character.Fatties are always fucked in the head. Otherwise they wouldn't be fatties.
>>25573786SCUM manifest and Valerie Solanas. As radical as it comes, I'd say. Not sure why you'd want to be into the radical parts. Mainstream or even inundated feminism pretty much uniformly reject the lunatics as sideshow clowns.
>>25573786Andrea "The Leviathan" Dworkin is the gold standaerd
>>25576034obesity is largely genetic, you're not more "strong-willed" than she is, as much as you would like to believe.
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>>25576045>obesity is largely genetic
>>25575962Imagine all the hair on those nipples.
>>25575991>it's almost impossible to conceptualize a sex-having woman as more than a sex dollThe only situation where a woman is the one with power are those female teachers raping their male students. But even then you have men in the comments saying: >I wish my hot teacher ""raped"" me when I was a schoolkid
>>25576088I wish my hot teacher ""raped"" me when I was a schoolkid.
>>25576030they still do but since they're mostly driven by status and there's gain with victimhood in that way they choose to have their cake and eat it too, or as we say over here, have both the cock in the ass and the soul in paradiseI have to agree with the fat dyke feminist and I wish that meaningful conversation could be had about this. I've rarely had sex with women that I didn't feel I was conquering them like a mountain after an uphill battle. I've never penetrated without the rage of one who had been denied sex, in my teenage years, at least. As an adult, after having been socialized, like Enkidu, I find sex to be either trite or a manifestation of profound and pure love, but nothing inbetween.In hindsight I suppose though that I've been careful and tender even in my teens with partners whom I've considered lowly and corrupting
>>25576039>Mainstream or even inundated feminism pretty much uniformly reject the lunatics as sideshow clowns.What is mainstream feminism though? Solanas-tier statements are very popular on social media and get thousands of likes. That's pretty mainstream
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>>25576098Ah, Mrs Reed ... my hot 22 year-old French teacher. She was also the school's hockey coach, and would change for after-school practice in the classroom stationary cupboard. She'd come out wearing this pleated mini-skirt that swished mesmerisingly around her perfect arse. I failed at French because I was trying to peek up that skirt.(Note to Americans: hockey is a sport for girls, and is played on a field.)
>>25576882>social media is mainstreamIt really very much isn't. The existence of social media is mainstream, but the content is not. Social media is a stream of bubbles, and if you exist in a certain bubble you *will* get content specific to that bubble, but if you're outside of that bubble, you won't see the same content. I got content my wife didn't when I still used social media, and vice versa.But to answer your question: mainstream feminism only has a handful of issues it cares about. Things like equal pay for equal work, removing glass ceilings, equal demands on the sexes (i.e military service in countries that has mandatory conscription), or changing laws of consent. It can't deal with overarching feminist ideology because feminism isn't like communism or liberalism which both have very clear boundaries. For example, feminism struggles with the concept of prostitution. On the one hand, it reasons that prostitution makes victims of women, on the other hand, telling women what they can or cannot do with their own bodies is unacceptable. So that whole issue gets sidelined by mainstream feminism because the ideology in itself can't settle on what it thinks is the right thing to do.Solanas-tier statements are popular in certain bubbles because it triggers rage, and rage triggers engagement, which feeds the algorithm to put more of that content at the front. You believing it is therefore mainstream is exactly why internet is toxic to human minds. You think you're watching human consensus when you're really just being trawled for attention. If you involve yourself in feminist circles, you'd see they're primarily interested in issues like getting fathers to spend more time with their kids, or preventing young women from starving themselves to be similar to models they see. People like Solanas are ridiculed in the same way people like Tate is.
>>25576989These are the many contradictions of liberal feminism.Thats why people need to study feminism based on materialism.Start with Engles >The Origin of Family Pruvate Property and The State
>>25576989>Solanas-tier statements are popular in certain bubbles because it triggers rage, and rage triggers engagement, which feeds the algorithm to put more of that content at the front. You believing it is therefore mainstream is exactly why internet is toxic to human minds.But it is mainstream. You get more likes from radfem ragebait than some moderate feminist opinion. Ragebait is an effective way to normalize extremism.
>>25577103That doesn't make it mainstream feminism. It makes it mainstream social media.
>>25577096I just find it comical that the cliché image of women is that they're wishy washy and can't settle on what they want, and that the ideology meant to liberate them suffer from the same problem as their own cliché.
>>25573786men who love women can't have sex? also women find the rapey contempt shit hot for some reason, its the only reason i act, else i'd be like a puppy or golden retriever because i do feel irrational amounts of love for them
>>25576989i think you're just naive or lying because all women into feminism i've ever met would agree with whatever you say feminists dont agree with and dont talk about anything you say feminists talk about
>>25577194>women find the rapey contempt shit hot for some reason,Biology?
>>25573786>intercourse>sterile
>>25575991>do you know how low an animal it makes you to try invalidate someone's view by mocking their looks?I see no problem being an animal but she still looks repulsiveshe does not even respect her own body why should I care about her nonsensical opinion?
>>25577186How is Engels work in sociology wishy washy? Please provide examples. I havent seen any, and you seem to understand more of his thought than me, please tell me so I can better understand his thought.
>>25575969Lmao
>>25573786What for?
>>25576016In Asia women do the "drunk blush" makeup to make themselves more approachable
>>25573786>Where do I start with radical feminist texts?cutting your nuts off>>25575943shut up, faggot
>>25575991This nigga serious?
>>25577412Cute
>>25576016Showing your feelings to a woman is traumatic for both parties, I genuinely don't understand how there's 8 billion people on the planet when intersexual interaction is so hard
>>25573786What does she mean exactly? Like the physical act itself? Is it biologically impossible to have sex without expressing contempt for the woman? Is she raging against the actual immutable biology rather than some societal norms?Several anons seem to agree with her, so explain yourself
>>25577548alcool
>>25577603How do Muslims fuck then?
>>25576989>equal demands on the sexes (i.e military service in countries that has mandatory conscription)I've never ever ever seen people saying this.I've not seen a single feminist opposing the jettisoning of the females and the forced conscription of males in Ukraine.During the 2016 campaign /pol/ produced a funny "I'm with her—> Draft Our Daughters!" fake Hillary campaign and the mainstream that fell for it was completely opposite to that.Also never seen feminists clamoring for a 50/50 split for comfy pretend-jobs where women are overrepresented.
>>25577197You associating with midwits has nothing to do with political discourse.>>25577287Learn to read.
>>25577638>I've never ever ever seen people saying thisThat's 100% you not being in the loop. Feminists successfully implemented gender irrelevant drafting in my country. Since 2010, women have to serve in the military, same as men.>Also never seenYeah, I'm getting that you spend all of your time on /pol/ and so don't know anything outside that retarded echo chamber. No wonder you dumb cunts don't know anything about anything in any context.
>>25577576As I said in a previous Dworkin thread, sex is just rape with better PR. To date a woman means to brainwash her into being male-owned rapemeat.It may sound jarring when described as plainly as that, but isn't that exactly what sex is? There's a reason why men with better social skills have more sex. It's the same reason why men with better social skills make for better politicians. The point is to manipulate other people in order to control them.
>>25577631Thats a good question?Any Muslim anons? Theres separation of the sexes correct? Do you need chaperone for dates? How do you meet women and how do they meet men?
>>25577698muslim men trade females for camels and then rape them
>>25577687>It may sound jarring when described as plainly as that, but isn't that exactly what sex is?No?Do you believe women don't enjoy sex and never initiate sex (unless you "brainwash" them)?Also she's talking about the actual act of intercourse, not dating rituals, so you didn't address my question. She seems to be saying that you can't have sex without expressing contempt for the woman.
>>25577716>Do you believe women don't enjoy sex and never initiate sex (unless you "brainwash" them)?I don't understand in which situation a woman would ever approach a man or initiate sex
>>25577712the females or the camels?
>>25577721>I don't understand in which situation a woman would ever approach a man or initiate sexBrutal self own
>>25577722yes
>>25577721A tragic post
>>25576016This is mostly because the current definition of rape is absurd. No interaction between two people is fully consensual, let alone both fully consensual and communicably so, let alone fully consensual + communicable as such + actually communicated as such.
>>25577712So if I convert to Islam but I have no camels I will still be a virgin?
>>25577754>No interaction between two people is fully consensualSo true anon>I walk by a woman on the street, look her in the face and smile>She smiles back>This is a forced interaction in which I made her submit and follow my lead>Never asked for consent>I brainwashed and smile-raped that woman>Onto the next interaction
>>25577773Life is literally just a never ending spiral of rape, chud
>>25577687You didn't answer/address his question. How is coitus an expression of contempt?
>>25575991>it's almost impossible to conceptualize a sex-having woman as more than a sex doll at least in actionevery accusation is a confession
>>25577698>Theres separation of the sexes correct? Do you need chaperone for dates? How do you meet women and how do they meet men?Moroccanon here. Used to be the norm, but we're talking 60-70 years ago, it gradually faded away, in the past you would speak to their father in order to marry them, or you would ask your family to look for a suitable partner. Then you would go on a date with them with their brother present or a cousin, and sometimes the brother would date a female family member of yours so it would be more like a hangout for both dudes. However neither side wants their sisters disrespected so there was this expectation to not fuck around without intention of marrying them. This still occurs but less frequently but arranged marriages happen rarely now, unless you're marrying a girl from the mountains. Other ways to find girls would be in festivals or social gatherings where it is socially acceptable for both genders to interact with eachother since they're family are usually present. And some festivals, you would go to just to find someone to get married, both men and women would go. But all of those things are fading away today and people are now just dating in a more modern manner. Meeting girls at work or school or whatever.
>>25575974"oppress" has a negative sound. It's really just restraining anti-social behavior.
>>25576023she's a bitter jew hag surrounded by male jews. It's a perverse freakshow. The real mistake is pretending anything she ever said has value.
>>25576016I'm glad I am not a terminally online retard like you. My sex life as a straight man has been constant since an early teen. Women like sex and they like it even more when they are not shackled down with gender norm responsibilities. Hang out with women, have friends and you'll see how it actually is.
At least she hates trannies ig so yeah
>>25576989genuine retard post lmfaoo
>>25573786Dudebros always use sex as an insult and are bewildered that it starts to be taken as insulting
>>25573786>Where do I start with radical feminist texts?Wages for Housework. Then you read every bourgeois liberal academic who essentialises the ontological category of the phenomenal experience of womanhood instead of investigating the reproduction of labour power. Then read Sakkai on settlers.
>>25577787Men are fundamentally like women. If a man talks about how sex is violence he is based, but when a fat female points it out they sperg out
Yet ANOTHER data mining thread.
>>25578295Retard
>>25573786>>25577687It is logically incoherent that only one sex is objectified by intercourse. Women keep vibrators and literal replicas of cocks next to their beds at home to masturbate, is the penis not the most important sexual object of all? Marital love vaporizes like match-smoke if the male's erection fails, i.e. he ceases to function as a sex object. Or I don't suppose any of you have experienced a woman grinding on the base of your dick (because they have destroyed the nerve endings in their clitoris using battery-powered masturbators) with utter obliviousness that it produces 5% of the friction as in-and-out sex? .Men who glorify 'experience' and women being active in bed are essentially applying feminism to their sexual preferences subconsciously to avoid the taboo spectre of the male gaze, and in doing so they are placing the onus of sexual objectification entirely upon themselves rather than sharing it between both partners, ignoring the fact that, if women are aroused by sexually objectifying men (as they all must agree women do, if they accept the proposition that large penises are more arousing to women), men must sexually objectify women in order to function sexually as men. Ironically, therefore, women must be sexual objects arousing to men in order for men to be satisfactory sexual objects arousing to women. Feminism has turned the world upside-down.
>>25573786>>25575943>>25576016>>25577548>>25577787What degenerate, idealist, bourgeois filth. How about you read a genuine, revolutionary leftist's opinion on sex:>And therefore, love cannot be cultivated simply from the depths of a mere zoological sexual drive. The forces of ‘loving’ love can be found only in the experience of non-sexual human sympathy. A young man will never love his fiancée or wife if he has not loved his parents, companions, and friends. And the broader the scope of this non-sexual love, the nobler his sexual love will be.>A man who loves his homeland, his people, and his cause will not become a lecher; his gaze will not see a woman merely as a female. And the opposite conclusion seems entirely accurate: one who is capable of treating a woman with simplistic and shameless cynicism does not deserve trust as a citizen; his attitude toward the common cause will be just as cynical, and he cannot be fully trusted.>The sexual instinct — an instinct of immense and potent force — if left in its primitive, ‘wild’ state or reinforced by a ‘wild’ upbringing, can lead only to antisocial phenomena. But when tempered and ennobled by social experience — the experience of unity with others, discipline, and self-restraint — it becomes one of the foundations of the highest aesthetics and the most beautiful form of human happiness.— A. S. Makarenko, A Book for Parents
>>25578357Do you get all your opinions exclusively from followers of Marxism, a consciously deceptive political ideology?
>>25578361I spent a decade on this board being exposed to every possible sphere of politics. All of it led me to the immortal truth of Dialectical Materialism and it's rigid scientific discipline Marxist Leninism. History has shown it is the only system capable of leading mankind out of the impasse of the moribund system of capitalism into the next age of history. You only hate Marxism because you fundamentally misunderstand it and have had a lifetime of lies and misinformation about it pushed on you constantly.
>>25578408>You only hate Marxism because you fundamentally misunderstand it and have had a lifetime of lies and misinformation about it pushed on you constantly.Tankie calling the T-54 green.
>25578411Not an argument, also no more (you)s for you
>>25578443You should start reading Dialectical Materialist criticisms of Stalin and Mao.
>>25578196Thanks for the effort post.I have heard bars and clubs arent much of thing there. Do people meet at coffee shops and the like? Do people use dating apps?
>>25578357Holy based how have I have i not heard of this guy?? I have been trying to research proletarian ethics and this seems like a huge help.Im reading Plekhanov on aesthetics now, I was wondering since both measure value it might be of use.
>>25576016How else are you supposed to have sex lmao. I have to get at least a bit drunk, if she ends up being sober that doesnt make me a heckin raperino victim
>>25578357>>25578408it's so bizarre that Marxoids can only view the world through the lenses of other Marxoidsas if nothing existed before Marx
>>25578507Thats untrue. Most Marxists uphold materialists like Darwin, some hold Empiricists like Ricardo in high regard Smith too. Most understand Marx is an inversion of Hegel and study Hegel to better understand the dialectic.Marxism is holistic, his writing were mostly contemporary critique of what he read including those he liked and was inspired by like Fuerback shit even Proudhon. Marxists hold critique so high and as dialecticians are encouraged to read everything.
>>25578513And to understand Hegel yoy really need to read Kant.Marx himseld also held the Greeks especially Aristotle in high regard.
>>25578357And really of Origin of the Family Private Property and the State.Engels does show reverence to sexlove as he calls it, especially when he calls out prostitution for the vile expletive act it is.
>>25576016
>>25578357The hubris of leftist "human engineering" is a ceaseless wonder. They really believe they are smarter and can do things better than God/nature and there will not be negative ramifications in attempting to do so.
>>25578341>It is logically incoherent that only one sex is objectified by intercourse. Women keep vibrators and literal replicas of cocks next to their beds at home to masturbate, is the penis not the most important sexual object of all?I'm not saying men aren't objectified by intercourse. The entire point of intercourse is objectification of the Other. The reason why it's rape is because men are the pursuing object while women are the passive object. Psychologically intercourse might even be worse for men because women are presumed inferior from the start while men have to continuously prove their superiority in order for the woman not to leave them for a superior male, and this is upkeep of superiority is hard to do, and causes frustration, self-hatred and depression in men.
>>25578357>What degenerate, idealist...>Goes on to quote a thoroughly idealistic appreciation for lovethis common paradox for ostensibly materialists is fascinating.
Has anyone actually read this from start to finish? I tried but I lost interest in the first chapter. Although that happens to me with every book
>>25573786>op image Is that why I enjoy sex with my wife less the more I truly grow to love her? And why fucking women I care nothing for is amazing?
>>25578357>>25578494Makarenko also liked to abuse little delinquent boys at a mental health clinic If they said a racism he hit them with a rubber hose
>>25573786unironically they just adapted maxism to gender
>>25576034There's some biochemical logic here,insulin resistance and the brain
>>25578408
>>25573786>Where do I start with radical feminist texts?
>>25575962The jokes write themselves kek
>>25579718Gender Marxism is incelism, not feminism
>>25575974>oppress>social code which promoted equality, social cohesion, avoiding pitfalls that lead to neurosis and self-destruction>women happily upheld this code without men even interferingthey got you a looong time ago
>>25579223"Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it."
>>25578408>I spent a decade on this board being exposed to every possible sphere of religion. All of it led me to the immortal truth of Allah and it's rigid scientific discipline Islam. History has shown it is the only religion capable of leading mankind out of the impasse of the moribund system of evil into the next age of history. You only hate Islam because you fundamentally misunderstand it and have had a lifetime of lies and misinformation about it pushed on you constantly.Marxism is just secularized Christianity gone wrong.
>>25573786Radical feminism is one of those type of 'radicalism' where I've never seen it translates into an armed struggle, despite their grand aim of wanting to overthrow the patriarchy.
>>25580560>I do not whip Bankers after Church.Who is betraying Christ now?
>>25573786She is right, but women are just as contemptable as men for many other reasons, maybe moreso.
>>25580560Tom Holland talks about this
>>25580560Haz?
>>25573786the only good thing she said was when she told allen ginsberg that he should be shot dead
>>25573786But I would only have intercourse with Agatha because my love for her is infinite and undying
>>25582535I guess it is true in some sense that being a part of society causes extreme paranoia, because people look at you
>>25575969kek
>>25578408There really is no answer to dialectical materialism, is there? I have not seen a single other philosophy that describes the reality we live in as well as this one.
>>25573786duh
>>25579446You enjoy sex less with your wife because you cheat on her.
>>25583099While you’re logic is sound, I do not, I compare to other periods of my life. Even sex with her was better when she meant less to me.
>>25583099For men, sex and love are separate things. Women of good character are not necessarily great in bed. Sluts and whores are more experienced and less inhibited.
>>25584375>Women of good character are not necessarily great in bed. Sluts and whores are more experienced and less inhibited.Dudes will make fun of Dworkin like a shallow valleygirl makes fun of a man with a weak chin for saying right wing opinions but they usually believe the same thing she believes If only debased women that you call insults are good in bed that means that what happens in bed is debasing
>>25584401>what happens in bed is debasingNeurotic take, very feminist.Fucking is animalistic. Animals don't find it debasing. Anyone who does has lost touch with their essential nature.
>>25584406If its a neurotic take most men in history have been neuroticMen made up the whole "she's filthy if she has sex with one of us" thing. As for the whole appeal to nature fallacy your dog also does not mind eating her own vomitIt would be scary to see a woman doing that
>>25584414I saw a woman eat my cock once, and it wasn't scary at all. You should give it a try, it might loosen you up.
>>25584474>"woman"Just say you gay
>>25584486OK: you gay.
>>25575991Sex doesn't make someone a whore you schizo. Sex itself is already respectable in certain contexts.
>>25573786The Talmud
>>25580560way too based akhi
>>25577712Fucking hell.
>>25575991>it's almost impossible to conceptualize a sex-having woman as more than a sex doll at least in actionWhat.
>>25577721beuh
>>25584659sex, from the male perspective, is the objectification of the woman to his own pleasure, while from the female perspective it is the act of being desired and used by someone else.>>25584862this isn't reddit nigger, you cannot ratio someone here, kill yourself.
>Have sex with me? Feel bad about ir>Don't have sex with me? You should feel bad about that tooPlease don't waste your time with this garbage.
>>25578507They are mentally ill
i don't really understand the obsession with "porn"if you don't like it don't watch it
>>25573786>>25575943Dworkin and Butler were both correct in their respective diagnoses. However, they were only correct insofar as their critiques applied to the conservative patriarchy of the bookish cosmopolitan jewry. They were incorrect in projecting these relationships onto the rest of the world
>>25573786I was reading an old book from around 1850, a reverend's memoir. He frequently mentions intercourse with men and women. I was surprised that a memoir published back then would disclose a reverend's promoscuity, true or not, but I had the wisdom to look at the word's etymology. It used to just mean a discussion between two people. A back and forth of ideas.I despise subversion. Anyways, Dworkin was retarded.
>>25575974The west is returning to pre-industrial populations because industrial populations are excessive without industry.AI, drone warfare, subversion of education and household roles, it's all replacement for humans and sabotage.Rest of the world will follow.
>>25578507It's more bizarre that they think communism doesn't suffer the same bottlenecks as every other system (aside from anarchy because then the bottlenecks are nature workkng as intended). Universal dialectics is simply an impossibility. Even if every person within the system were capable, it would not be feasible for everyone to specialize in such a way.
>>25575943It's not surprising that you agree considering you're both profoundly retarded
>>25585180It's exploitation to women, allows women to become labour desterters and is essentially rape.1.the digital (((pimp))) at only fans extracts surplus value from Sally blasting herself with a bad dragon dildo2.these women do this for pay, yes the bourgoise concept of sexual liberation is also used to coerce them. Coerced sex is rape. If I told a woman she would starve and die if she didnt fuck me she would3.it strips women back down to sexual object instead of workers. Most work these days can be done by women and men. We need productive laborers to create society. If everyone decides their job is to jack off on camera society would stop to function.These lumpen whores need to be thrown into labor camps
>>25575962"No one wants to have sex with me, everyone thinks I'm disgusting, I'm disgusted by my own body." This genre of person is one of my least favorite. "I will attack sex, promiscuity, love, anything that I can't obtain because deep down I know I can't obtain them (or obtain them from the people that I, in my deluded sense of self-worth, think I should be able to obtain them from) and therefore will pretend like I hate them as some sort of defense mechanism to prevent myself from consciously absorbing the fact that people find me disgusting." I hate these fat, ugly, disgusting people so much. A fat person can lose weight. An ugly person might become more attractive with certain surgeries. This bitch will be disgusting on the inside forever.
>>25577217Women are mentally ill
>>25578295I don't see where data is being mined?
>>25578516A lot of problems in the west can be boiled down to the illegalization of brothels.
>>25585735Tell me exactly whats wrong with this formation
>>25585749>“Community of women is a condition which belongs entirely to bourgeois society and which today finds its complete expression in prostitution. But prostitution is based on private property and falls with it. Thus, communist society, instead of introducing community of women, in fact abolishes it.”Engels
>>25575943>She's completely spot on about this. A person far ahead of her time in many respects /head bobblesFTFY
>>25585755Jews get all the money, your women become whores with blown out pussies online that are subservient to jewish technocrat overlords while our infrastructure crumbles due to losing half the workers
>>255737862nd sex then caliban and the wiitch if you want stuff taht isn't infected with postmodernism.
>>25578357sounds like some cuck shit
>>25573786I once wrote a poem about Andrea Dworkin licking Zarathustra's toes. It got published. Evil woman.
>>25573786Viz
>>25585735Your own bitter sexual frustration seeps out of every line you write. Post weight.
>>25585741>"No one wants to have sex with me, everyone thinks I'm disgusting, I'm disgusted by my own body.">"I will attack sex, promiscuity, love, anything that I can't obtain because deep down I know I can't obtain them (or obtain them from the people that I, in my deluded sense of self-worth, think I should be able to obtain them from) and therefore will pretend like I hate them as some sort of defense mechanism to prevent myself from consciously absorbing the fact that people find me disgusting."You forgot to attach the gigafly webm
>>25586291I have a girlfriend. She disagrees with me on these. She calls them "sex workers" I am a fatty though you are correct.
>>25573786this book is quintessential feminism
>>25575962My queen.
>>25583048Nope. They will never argue against it. Empiro-Criticism critique is something every STEM student should read because it will make them see the material world in a way they never could have dreamed before.
>>25573786START WITH PRACTICING YOUR SEX THE CORRECT WAYYOUR SEXUAL CORRECTNESS WILL MELLOW THEM OUT
>>25587062It's not just limited to Marxism. Evolution itself falls under the premise of Dialectical Materialism.
>>25583048>>25587062>>25587103Dialectical materialism is interesting in that it may as well lead into a kind of Nazism as opposed to leftist progressivism but everyone who espouses it supports the latter vision
>>25587112Can you elaborate on how that would work?
>>25587126Human life has no inherent value under materialism so there's no ideological reason to expect a classless society wouldn't include attempts to eradicate infirm or aesthetically unappealing people (via eugenics, abortion, CRISPR, genocide, etc.). Communism and fascism can easily coexist.
>>25587186Human life is ALL that has value in materialist philosophy because without life there is nothing, just dead shit floating around and no experience. The idealists are far more favorable towards death because they believe you never truly die. Afterlife as a concept is literally just a cope with the inevitably of our destruction by living in denial. It’s immature, a fairytale to help you sleep at night as you waste your life away for nothing. Materialism is what compels people to fight for a better life because they understand this is ALL we have.
>>25587227The problem with wanting a better life is that other people prevent it. The subject of this thread (love/sex) is the perfect example because it's women who decide whether or not you will have love/sex and there's nothing you can do about it. Perhaps a way to actually improve life is some transhumanist endeavour where humans are reprogrammed to be asocial, aromantic and asexual, not to depend on other humans' whims for happiness.
>>25587227>The idealists are far more favorable towards death because they believe you never truly die.Idealism doesn't necessarily mean just religion and belief in afterlife
>>25587873What a faggot larp
>>25587186>there's no ideological reason to expect a classless society Except the leftists, at least the ones who quote DM, do not seek ideological reasoning. At least not at first. To them a classless society does not come because of some need to achieve an ideal but because of the material "meaningless" animal need every person has to seek out his needs and comforts and avoid pain, destitution and death. This is what created our technological society in the first place.
>>25587234>The problem with wanting a better life is that other people prevent it. Yeah there is no dialectic without conflict and contradiction>The subject of this thread (love/sex) is the perfect example because it's women who decide whether or not you will have love/sex and there's nothing you can do about it.I have a theory about the dialectic of sex if you are interested.
>>25587227Materialists will say things like this and then kill hundreds of millions of people over ideological disputes which are really just covers for power grabs
>>25578357>Idealist bourgeois filth>Quotes a passage that idealizes sex anywayslol lmao
>>25588035>kill hundreds of millions of people over ideological disputes As the redneck chud iq drops their lives become even more unbelievable
>>25588041>*Lies
>>25587873I've been in a similar situation before. Frankly I was lucky to have been holding my friend's purse (she was shopping) directly in front of my crotch to hide my shameful erection while she was trying on pants in Walmart. I try not to leer at women or creep on girls but my friend was wearing very tight jeans, the kind that look like pre-worn denim but are actually made of that stretchy yoga-pant material designed to accentuate every curve and crevice of the buttocks.
>>25588047Never understood this mentality. If you find your friend hot, then ask her to fuck. Who gives a shit.
>>25588052Then she'll gossip about your creepiness to her social circle and you become ostracized from society
>>25575943She's right, but the thing is women like it like that.
>>25588056Silly nonsense.
>>25588062What do you think happens when you approach a girl?
>>25588067>Hi my name is anon>Girl: hi anon >I think you are cute, want to get some lunch sometime>Girl: ok sure>Ok give me your number>Girl: ###-###-####It’s that ez
>>25588065I like legs however
>>25588074This is terrifying
I would love to meet a women organically. It has been over a decade since I have fucked a girl without a dating app. I hear those are cooked now too.
>>25588074A sterile, violent act
>>25588074Is this really how normies do it?
Here
>>25573786The back of the box
>>25573786I've never had sex
>>25588601It's still kinda surreal to me how having sex is still perceived as "normal" in our society. It's fucked up
>>25573786>Be me>30s something dark academic wanabe pseudointellectual humanities major>Read about whore madonna complex and rape culture>Want to be a responsible straight man by never expressing any desire whatsoever>Going insane without touch>Still benefiting by becoming conscious of a hypothetical psychic roster, aware of people I usually ignore entirely because they aren't sexually available or attractive, gaining social awareness>Early 20s something girl finally asks me out>Say yes>First date going well, have a couple drinks >she stays sober>We go dancing and close out the club having a great time>Very late>Waiting on same metro as both of us need to take the same train at first>"Anon I think I want to come to your place" >I say ok, keeping in mind sex is never a guarantee and either of us can back out at any time even in the midst of the act.>She undresses me and begins fingering my butthole>Who is raping who now?>We finger each others buttholes then 69 then start having intercourse>"Use me for your pleasure, anon"They have projected their own fantasies onto men and problematized us for it. It was never us anons.They will doxx me if I speak my truth brothers what do I do
>>25588609Someone has to keep the population going I guess
>>25577631Remember that Islam from the very beginning was divided. There was never a unified church or priest (not in the Caliphate/empire sense, I am talking about the Sunni/Shia divide): so much of it is essentially free balling. That's why you see memes of liberal and extremist Muslims. it's not a matter of whether Islam caters to one view or another, it's that you can basically find an iman/school of life and get endorsement from them for your lifestyle. I live in the Metro-Detroit area, so what I offer comes from there. I see the upper class Shia/Lebanese perspective, and the poor/illegal Sunni/Yemeni perspective. You can guess which one I belong to.>Theres separation of the sexes correct? Yes but there's degrees. At the lenient end you can have your wife in your profile picture, mom will greet the men guest, and get career/education. Even the hijab is conditional: again Islam is more fluid than a Cali art student. That's not to say a famliy won't approve of it: more that there is a subgroup that is fine with it. On the other end is you the full outfit: abiya, niqba, hijab. Not supposed to work. Is basically meant to live a parallel life from men. >Do you need chaperone for dates? How do you meet women and how do they meet men?Again, back to the sunni/shia divide. You fags have no idea how genuinely important the sunni/shia and nationality is to answering this question. It's not like Catholic or Protestant where you can have comparative lifestyles: the way of life is so fundamentally different that I have to answer it twice. Shias typically meet girls like anyone meet girls. Sometimes they get a family hookup/help but that's for more traditional. Sunni? Especially traditional/conservative/poor sunnis? Arranged marriage. Oh sure we go on "dates". But what that means is a cafe, her father and my father hiding in a corner while we know each other. You guys have no idea the stupid bullshit: even when I was married to my wife but didn't had the wedding (and no I'm NOT going down that rabbit hole for now) the father in law still didn't like me dating her.It's basically a giant game of luck on the arrange side. It's not easy, I'll say that.If you are reborned as a Muslim, go into medicine. There's so much woman there and it seems every Arab guy I know picked up a what I assumed cutie from there. Assumed because I'm too shy to look at their girl.
>>25588609Its gonna not at some point.Less and less people have sex. In the real world I have multiple friends that are virgins in their mid 30s. I have suspects of others too. Some of these people are female too so its not just a male thing. People are just more autistic and fuck less and less. I imagine its gonna continue like this
>>25588844Thank you muslimnon.I know the Shia are quite different they dont go to mecca and such but I didnt realize how far into everyday life it goes.
>>25575962she just needed your face to sit upon, anonyou could have saved her
>>25588961Shia totally go to Mecca. they just have other pilgrimage sites too. so did Sunnis when they had shrines to saints
>>25577576She was a sex worker who was raped multiple times as far as I know, that's why she thinks this. Her feminism is 90% pathological projection and 10% truth.
>>25577548This narcissistic fuck hole should be drop licked in the face, what an evil bitch. I think I want to kill her. Her entitled, unself aware, self absorption, should be purged from the gene pool
>>25589337>She was a sex workerwtf>raped multiple timesholy shitdid that happen in india?
>>25577771step 1: sell your bussy to acquire camels
>>25589575I dont know who would pay for that.Since she was a prostitute she was rated everytime she turned a trick. Coerced sex is rape.
>>25589582Is that halal?
