Stormbringer edition>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Banned Authors:J. R. R. TolkienC.S. LewisJohn NormanH. P. LovecraftPat Mills Dan Abnett Richard AdamsT. H. WhiteRobert HeinleinAdolf Hitler>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffgPrevious:>>25565504
>>25576062Anyone feel like convincing me to read Elric stories? He seems too snowflakey, overpowered, and I know Moorcock invented him as a subversive foil to the Conan archetype which just seems resentful and queer.
>bans all the good authorsI'm out. Enjoy your circle-jerk, faggots.
>>25576085Like all Moorcock's work, they're just plotless, rambling "and then this happened" stories. Only virginal teenagers like them.
Are there any scifi stories inspired by Biosphere 2? Closed ecosystems are neat.
>>25576103Ignore baynefag, he's just doing it for attention.>implying you aren't him samefagging
Read Reverend Insanity
>>25576103They're fascists you chuddy. God-King Moorcock decreed it.
I've ODed in Malfoid bros, what are some good books for a yearner?
>>25576407yearning for what?
>>25576410Romance
I really enjoyed reading Sun Eater, can I get some other series recommendations from others who read and enjoyed it?
>>25576419As a matter of fact, I do have something for you.
>>25576419Let the right one inThis is how you lose the time warA memory called empireLife and DeathThey wont be to everyones tastes but if you're yearning, try them
>>25576419Black Future: An Interracial Sissy Story
>>25576062>>25576103>>25576292>>25576386all samefag, hiroshimoot give us thread-ids PLEASE
>>25576492lamo
>>25576062Why was the banned authors list changed from last thread?
>>25576555George R.R. Martin Erik A. OtttoTerry Bisson.Frank HerbertUmberto ScoCarl LundgrenKeith JusticeEthan Shedley Dustin Lasser.
>>25576555Banned list ain't real, nigga.
>>25576555Authors moorcock dislikes
the dispossessed made me depressed because I will never get to do physics with my bros on a shitty dust planet. Best I can get is New Mexico. Which is OK but it's not a shitty dust planet but merely a shitty dust state
>>25576062just finished this book and i have to say it has the most plausible aliens i've ever read. the books gives us both an alien psychology and ecology. it's up there with rendezvous with rama and solaris as one of the bests in first contact stories. i found it obnoxious that some of the human characters use they/them pronouns, but given that in the setting humans seem to be grown in tanks i turned a blind eye because they might actually be sexless.
>>25576727>it's up there with rendezvous with rama and solaris as one of the bests in first contact storiesNot Childhood's End? Because that one set the tropes for like 90% of all alien first contact stories.
>>25576062>Adolf HitlerFuck you, Lord of the Swastika is amazing.
>>25576085I never liked the elric books. Elric clones like the witcher are honestly more interesting and entertaining
>Bakker unbannedDid you realise no other fantasy writer is even worth discussing?
>>25576685The dispossessed made me depressed because it caused me to remember the time when i got shithammered at a party and tried to SA the hostess
>>25576492>he doesn't know how to detect samefagsNew much?
>>25565938This reminds me of Bart's play>Kippers for breakfast, Aunt Helga?>Is it St. Swithen's day already?>'Tis!' replied Aunt Helga...
>>25576776i wasn't as impressed with childhood's end. it broke the veneer of plausabiljty that seperates hard science fiction from science fantasy.
Any fantasy series with this vibe?
>>25577165Not what's usually meant by fantasy, but Christopher Moore's works. I've read Coyote Blue and Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal; both fit the vibes.
>>25577165In The Mountains of Madness (novella)
>be reading Voyage of the Jerle Shannara #3: Morgawr>first couple of chapters feature the Morgawr himself inserting his hand into the back of several hundreds of slaves, one at a time, feeding upon their lives and mindraping them into becoming unaware slavesThis shit is disgusting and DARK and filthy. Looking forward to seeing the Morgawr get his shit pushed in later.
Currently reading The White Luck Warrior and it feels like the dark stuff is rather tame compared to its reputation. There are worse scenes in Berserk and that’s a manga aimed at young adults. Maybe the last two books will do it justice.
>>25576062really struggling to contain your awesomeness there OP
>autumn arrives>feel like reading 19th century mainstream fiction instead of SFFHSee you next summer, working class specimens.
I made the mistake of starting to read the wheel of time 2 years ago, fuck me do I regret it.>Slow as fuck>endless repetetive desciptions of everything>every character is a moron>Jordan clearly had a thing for difficult women (and spankings, and public nudity, did I mention spankings?)>Weird shit like the collared mindbroken womenBut since it starts out ok you are kind of in a frog boiling situation, where by the time you realize it's is shit you are already so far into it that you keep reading in the hopes that you did not just waste time. But no it kept getting worse and worse, with the absolute lowest point being book 10, where the entire book literally nothing happens to advance any main plot line. Also Perrin is the most boring character alive, and somehow Jordan managed to stretch the arc where his downright abusive wife gets kidnapped over 4 books. I was recently contemplating that I hadn't read as many interesting books the past 2 years only for me to realize it was because I wasted time reading this mediocre slogfest that is somehow considered a classic of the genre.I am currently about a fourth through the first Sandorson book, and my god is it an improvement. It is actually clear what character is where in scene and who is talking, descriptions don't just repeat over and over and don't drag on endlessly. Characters actually have noticable character traits instead of being vaguely bitchy. The story actually moves forward instead of just stagnating. I know Sanderson is disliked on the internet for basic prose among other things, but he is a far better writer than Jordan.
>>25577487>by the time you realize it's is shit you are already so far into it that you keep reading in the hopes that you did not just waste timeEnder's Game.
>>25577428I'm willing to understand fantasy being a summer genre but SF? Really?
>>25577552>all fantasy is light entertainment>all SF is le deep and profound
my made-up shit is better than your made-up shit sorry
>>25577577I can't begin to fathom how you got that from my post.
>>25576798Would you consider Drizzt Durden an Elric clone?
>>25577587I can't begin to fathom how you got that from mine.
so what do you think of hyperion
>>25577677idk, i haven't read it
>>25577677Yet another Superman ripoff.
>>25577726oh...really?
>>25576727>they/them pronounsHahaha. There are countless alien contact stories and you choose to read this.
>>25576885You couldn't have gotten filtered harder if I stomped you through a sewer grate
>>25577726Kek, Alan Moore does good work though. >>25577677Classic for a reason. It's very good. The second one is more traditional sci-fi but I enjoyed it. 3 isn't worth reading.
>>25577868>>25577726Oh wait, I was thinking of Supreme. My bad.
>>25577870For me? Gotta be Mark Waid's Superman ripoff.
>>25577888Miracle Man and Supreme no diff this shit. Alan Moore is a retarded communist in his personal life but he sure can write.Invincible follows, as a played straight version. The show is average but the comic was kino, if cut short and clearly damaged from production issues and concerns about going bankrupt.
>>25577892>no diffSpeak English, you little shit.
>>25577897But else how will zoomer negroids know what I mean? Miracleman and Supreme are significantly better stories than Irredemable, old sport. The latter's author appears to be hunnic, and the Kaiser is no friend of mine.
Tried reading Dagger & Coin book 1. The red flags were there. Just the more subtle red flags, like characters doing things with barely established reasons, implying a character has some deep seated relationship that informs how he interacts with future people, but it just ends up being tacit flashbacks to what happened to that relationship & you never get to really appreciate how much the relationship means because its presented in the most generically tragic way possible, underpinning an already generic gruff ex soldier type. But I didn't care much for how shallow rhe characters were until a certain plot point rhat destroyed the sensibility of the fictional world it was creating. I don't know if Fantasy writers really understand or appreciate despite their worlds being madeup, how much they are sneakily borrowing from real life for their worlds and character interactions to make sense, they get all the surface level stuff, but never truly the why's. Its almost like they don't quite ask themselves "If this was a real world, why would X allow this when it directly jeopardizes their interests" they can only write the immediacy of a consequence to a decision, not the underlying thing.So for example to make things simple.Its like somebody cheating on a medical exam with AI, and the immediate possible consequence the writer identifies is the student getting caught and thrown out of school rather than the more significant implication that if they did not get caught, a broken system where unqualified doctors make it through & healthcare quality of life goes down, & degrees are valued even less to skew heavily towards apprenticeship, which only further lengthens the already long time needed to produce ready doctors, which means that the amount of available doctors only becomes less and less at any given time blah blah blah.You get the point, Fantasy seems allergic to considering but most importantly engaging with these implications intelligently. Sci Fi too desu, atleast what Ive been exposed to (The Red Risings and Sun Eaters).
It was really The Dragons Path book that made me realize that there might just be something fundamentally wrong with the genre, even when it tries to be serious and "complicated" and give attention to stuff rarely considered in Fantasy, like banking, finance and economics. It just utterly fails as far as I'm concerned. And its not purely because they are not "realistic" its moreso that they don't have the same considerations in creating their world that the real world does and has to, because these are real lives and people in jeopardy when and if shit fucks up. Not just a collection of insular POVs who have to be conveniently special by mandate and have the most absurdly lucky and convenient things happen to them for their story to move forward, therefore casting away the legitimacy of the world in response because the world is supposed to be independent of people, not dependent on them. There is a back & forth relationship of course, but the world functions because we dont strictly have to build its foundations from the ground up, only harness them. So it doesn't change on a whim, it remains largely consistent, only our understanding changes, and thats important for things to matter.I don't know what the answer from henceforth is here. I just cant really believe that this genre is this bad at writing anything meaningful. I genuinely wonder how the fuck people get through fantasy without being depressed unless theyre just consuming it like popcorn TV, something somewhats straightforward, with familiar "likeable" archetypes to attach oneself to to get through the day and pass the time. I have a couple of books on my radar to move forward with. Either revisit Dandelion Dynasty. Or finally try Guy Kavriel or whatever his name is. Or that Japanese guy one anon mentioned.
>>25577942Your problem is fundamental to all media.
why is there a guy reading fantasy novels he hates just to 'prove' his theory that all fantasy novels are shit in the fantasy novel thread?what's the point man. like why even waste your time here. why is everyone in /lit/ like this
>>25578014he is just disappointed in the genre and expected more, it's not his fault the average sff-fan is braindead. people suck GRRMs lil pudgy dick and call him the greatest fantasy writer of all time, but his villains are cartoonish carboard cutouts that make no sense to anyone with even the tiniest knowledge of psychology, philosophy, sociology, etc.
>>25577942Read literary fiction instead. I recommend The World According to Garp if you want complex, believable, but flawed characters.
this book was no better than the previous one but was still enjoyablenonetheless, I couldn't help to raise a brown at how easily people forgot that the ape-man committed magnicide and slain dozens of innocent people before little provocationlike, there has been a real risk of starting a racial war yet the few decided to follow a guy, normally stoic even amoing his stoic race, to kill human and destroy structures while provlaiming himself a godalso, there was this new council of wizards which the author decided to link with the events of the first book, which retroactively made them incompetentother thing: picrel is the german print of the book (english name is Sword of Bheleu); it's a complete lie, for there is no dragon (or reptile) in this book, and I think it didn't even depict a horse
>>25578014Tbf SciFi is better than fantasy. The best fantasy novels are far less thought provoking in concept than the best SciFi novels. But prose and characterization can vary between them - very few scifi novels have as beautiful prose as The Buried Giant, for instance.
and he's samefagging
It's funny how little people comprehend Pagespammer 's complaints. They are rather hard to believe though.
>>25578034Of course you understand his complaints. (You) are him!
>>25577487I remember loving the first six books but bear in mind I was 14 when I started reading it. I eventually came to hate the series during Jordan's final tears and Sanderson's attempt to finish it. Still fond memories of those first six but I'm afraid they wouldn't hold up if I read them again now.
>>25577677I liked it
>>25578034>They are rather hard to believe though.which part is hard to believe?
>>25578102That you still expect any kind of media to come anywhere close to the richness of living life.
>>25576062Solar Cycle finished. 15/10 incredible
>>25578143I only seem pedantic because the stuff I've read has been really shallow, but also character focused without the depth. If you write deep characters and complex themes, then I won't care as much about your worldbuilding. I have actually never cared about worldbuilding or systemic details this much until reading fantasy and scifi, and thats because those things are uniquely tied to the characters and themes in a way not a lot of other fiction I've consumed is. Sci-Fi and Fantasy from what I read seem like very inherently "social" themed genres, and by "social" I just mean "society and the concerns of how we relate to one another and value things as a collectives, and how that informs the individual" Or in other words "politics" But I didn't say "politics" because particularly dumb people have a very narrow idea of what that is, and so wouldn't think the things I put in quotes is politics. So "sociology" might be more apt idk. Fantasy draws so heavily from medieval society, Sci-Fi projects our society forwards, both are based on a more "real" foundation than most anime, but not real enough like many TV shows, that they don't need to justify them. Maybe its just the hardest genre to write, you dont need any worldbuilding if youre writing about pocket monsters that can come out of tiny balls, where you travel from town to town fighting leaders at gyms. Its so nonsensical that It can't even pretend to be deep or meaningful, its purely for retarded children. In a TV show like The Sopranos, or The Wire, explicitly political shows, you still don't need to justify the worldbuilding, just pull from contemporary politics and the world.A lot of fantasy is just straight up about class, the chosen bumpkin, the disgraced prince/knight, the surprsingly cunning noble wife, the bandit, the orphan. Whatever stupid archetype, is always drawing from "how does society judge this person based on class, gender, or race, and how can I be cringe with that" So you'll see the disgraced king forced to live like a peasant, the chosen one end up respected and commanding like a noble, the noble wife surprising the reader with how much she knows about the men's game of politics and war, the bandit/orphan who would actually be a good person if society wasnt so mean to them.The only reason it doesn't seem political is because its abstracted from real life, it takes politics and makes it vague, general, non specific, uncomplicated, so that the orcs are obviously the bad foreigners who just can't seem to be civilized, the nobles and knights are obviously not inherently better, but at the same time, the noble class is still preserved, never truly challenged, how else would the chosen farmboy get respect without the disgraced prince being able to see his true betterness by living like a peasant. I can't help but expect "richness" like the real world when fantasy steals so many real life political themes, and class systems, to prop up its narratives and characters.
Its ironic that I can argue the average fantasy or scifi is actually more cheaply dependent on "politics" or sociology than something like The Wire.
the apex is fantasy is mythology and deeply religious, and most likely long lost in translationthe irony of complaining about how all modern works (both fantasy and sci-fi) are political over philosophical/religious should not be lost on you
>>25576662First I'm hearing him have beef with Abnett, of all authors.
>>25577615I don't see why not. He is written more poorly than Elric, thoughever. The basic concept of the character is appealing, but easy to fall into ridiculous parody
>>25578251He doesn't like GW or chaosism
STOP BRINGING UP CHTORR YOU FUCK! THERE'S NOWHERE ON EARTH TO ACQUIRE COPIES OF IT YOU FUCK!!!
>>25576062What ever happened to Patrick Rothfuss anyway? Fantasy YA authors have been eating his lunch for 15 years, (19 since TNotW).
>>25577487You had me in the first half, but calling Sanderson an improvement is way to obvious. All in all, 6/10 bait made me slightly irate.
It was just okay. Would I recommend it? Maybe if you have nothing else to read.
>>25577801This thread is full of normalfags who ONLY read bestseller megapopular titles.
>>25578382you should always start with the obvious good stuff before you go looking for hidden gems.
>>25578387>megapopular bestseller>obvious good stufffuck yourself up the ass with your argumentum ad populum
>>25578391ok, keep reading obscure paperbacks. most of the time the result will be this >>25578348good shit is popular for a reason.
>>25578397>good shit is popular for a reasonYour platitude means nothing.And I am literally reading the OBSCURE AUTHOR Terry Brooks, who had the first NY Bestseller Fantasy novel (and subsequently why Shannara was slammed by extra critic attention). Nobody even talks about Brooks in this general, faggot.
>>25578405he probably sucks and that's why no one talks about him. if he was good, he'd be a household name like sanderson.
>>25578409>*sloppy pudgy Sanderdick slurping noises*Of course.I'm so sorry for introducing Sanderson to the thread; he really did have potential at one point.
>>25578339Readers have given up on him after the charity chapter debacle. Not having a single short chapter ready is a bit much even for the most ardent hopium-huffer.
I remember reading a few books from the Riverworld series and enjoying them when I was a kid. I'm considering picking it back up and finally finishing, even though nowadays it looks like a cookie cutter reincarnation isekai. What do you guys think about it?
>>25578215What kind of scififantasy can you even recommend somebody like this
>>25578339It's not just that he cashed out and stopped writing. It's that he strung along his fans for over a decade. His series was supposed to be a trilogy. He released the first two books. It wasn't like a Martin thing where it was obvious it would take multiple books to finish the series. Rothfuss fans were waiting for one book and Rothfuss refused to do it all the while releasing updates suggesting he would, and soon.
Oh, come on Tad...
you should not have your mind broken just because there is a gay man in the book
>>25578461Sell me on it. I typically enjoy "Big Dumb Artificial Object" stories but the "mingling of famous dead historical people" sounds kinda gay if I'm being honest.
>>25578631>BDO>The Wheel is a 2 light year diameter circle around the black hole at the center of the Galaxy, has the mass of several thousand stars, rotates at very near lightspeed and because of relativistic distance distortion, the Wheel actually has a circumference of thirty million light years>The Wheel withstands an explosion with the power of a hundred supernovas every 10,000 years and has an inertialess system that protects it from impacts by instantly accelerating anything that hits it to the same velocity>The Wheel has three decks, so far apart that the Solar System could fit between them, with the surface area of a hundred billion Earths>The Decks move at different subjective times, so that for one year on Deck One, 5000 years on Deck Two, and 500,000 on Deck Three, 3 million years pass in the external universe>On Deck Two, for every day that passes, 17 months pass externally>On Deck One, for every day that passes, 14,000 years pass externally
>>25578643I asked about RIVERWORLD. Not THE WHEEL OF TIME. FOCUS!
>>25578603>Martin >Gerrold >RothfussIs this the holy trinity of lazy writers
>>25578342I read mistborn years ago as a teenage, I thought it was decent. My comment was more about how abysmal of a writer Robert Jordan was.>>25577501A friend of mine watched the movie, but from his description alone I have no interest in reading the book or watching the movie.
>>25578461you ever read The Dungeon series?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_series
>>25578030I'm new to this general, why is the OP like this? And who is pagespammer? Any other schizos I should watch out for?
>>25578750>Any other schizos I should watch out for?yeah that Anonymous guy is the worst of them all.
>>25578751True I fucking hate him as well
>>25578750Shhhhh.... shhhhh.... they're all the same person. He just decides which persona who wants to troll with on a whim. That being said, I haven't seen him do his ebook page spamming with a block of text routine in MANY moons and I find that comforting. It's a boon, really.
>>25578076The series does take a nosedive after book 5 or 6, I don't remember.
Defenestrate all goodreads group posters. Behead all goodreads review posters.
Anyone still read sci-fi?
>>25578783Yes. Have only 14% of The Archimedes Engine left, will do a short review soon.
>>25578783>sci-fiYou mean science fiction-related merchandise, TV, movies...?
>>25578784Is it any good? I'm not a fan of alien stuff so I'm probably missing out on a lot of decent books.>>25578808Exactly, that's why I'm asking on /lit/
>>25578461I gave up after The Fabulous Riverboat. And Riverworld and Other Stories is a mixed bag; the best stories in the book are (ironically or not) the mainstream ones.
>>25578809>Exactly, that's why I'm asking on /lit/Me, I read science fiction literature.
>>25578750The banned authors thing was created by one specific schizo who is always shilling his awful self published Amazon books, but the OP list is not the one he usually uses."Pagespammer" is a newer thread schizo known for, somewhat predictably, spamming pages in the form of phone screenshots which made everyone hate him. He seems to have stopped doing it now and instead just complains about books which is the norm for this thread.
>>25578783Of course, but are you looking for recommendations or gauging interest for something?
>>25578809Unless it fumbles the ending, it's very good. Slow and extremely detailed, so your mileage may vary. There are no aliens in this book; all the humanoids we see are various kinds of evolved and genetically engineered humans. Some of them are very weird, though.
>>25578828Just interested in the books other anons are reading, I'm not really the person that looks into recommendations that much, I'd rather find books on my own.>>25578840Well I hope the ending is good as well, that book is pretty long.
>>25578017>he
>>25578461I think you should read Inside/Outside.
>>25578846>Just interested in the books other anons are readingI'm not reading SF at the moment, but the book before my present one was Vance's Showboat World which I thought was absolutely fantastic, a real overshadowed gem.
>>25578825>"Pagespammer" is a newerKill yourself Bakkerfag. You fool nobody.
>Posting excerpts of a book is spamming I don't get this general at all
Why is there a concept of banned authors in this general? Is it to keep things interesting, a joke, or some kind of leftism?
>>25578924Relevant excerpts are fine. *Constantly* posting the same low-tier content that no one wants to discuss over and over again, everyone says "pls stop" but you ignore them anyway, and generally fill the thread with crap. That's spamming.
Post a banned author and find out creep.
Read Stormlight Archive
>muh complex magic systemsCheap, commodified D&D garbage. Sanderson is a wannabe
>in the mood for some fun slop>pick up picrel without knowing anything about warhammer>it's kinoI was under the impression that warhammer books were OK at best so this was a pleasant surprise
>>25579000Who does it better?
>>25579003why read any of that when you can read any pulp novel and it'll be more fun while still being an easy read
>>25579005Who does what better?
>>25578939Damn Judge Dredd is based.
>>25579009Is reading hard for you? You said Sanderson has shitty, generic magic systems. So we want to know which books you think do it better?
>>25579003I've only read one horus heresy book, I avoided the rest because I expected a star wars expanded universe situation where most of it is garbage. (The thrawn trilogy sucks massively btw, and shatterpoint is trying to be more than it is).>>25579007That's a complete crapshoot though.
>>25579000And D&D borrows (or steals) everything from Tolkien and Howard. Blame them then for fagging up the genre.
>>25579012>being this perturbedLmao, I don't read high fantasy for his dorky D&D nonsense and neither should you.
>you need to inform me who does the best job at explaining cheap, disposable plot devices
>>25579012>we
>>25579000>>25579016You should read some litrpg.
>>25579022>you should do something on my terms
>>25579012You're entirely missing the point he was making. Nevermind, you'll probably age out of Sanderson by yourself.
If you want to read Sanderson, that's fine. If you like tv-informed "villain of the chapter" shit, rigid good and evil factions and virgin shit like magic systems, great. But don't be a baby if someone talks shit about his work.
>>25579022Litrpg is for people with no friends to play DnD with or autistics who wish they could dice roll and spreadsheet their way through real life. Just the mere description alone makes it look like an affront to the very concept of storytelling.
>>25579030>we to a singular someoneYou are becoming a better man. :3
>>25579033>already resorting to smugness I didn't think it would be this easy to ruin your day.
>>25579030Most people who hate Sanderson do so because it is popular to hate him right now.
>>25579038>smugnessBit ironic there when your head is so big that your newfag ass considers every opinion you hold to be shared by some imaginary collective consciousness.
>>25579027I wasn't missing the point, I'm not even a Sanderson fan. I just wanted to know what even worse trash they'd recommend instead.
>>25579041I don't think this is true. Even when Stormlight Archives started getting a lot of hype around 2013, it was clear he was a wannabe. Also the only reason he has any sort of relevancy is because the fat man doesn't want to release book 6.
>>25579044Even more ironic when you're guilty of what you're accusing me of.>we want to knowWant to attempt an explanation of who "we" is? If you have the capability?
>Sandersonfags are insufferableMore news at 8
>>25579047Ok can you give examples of books you read and your problems with them or are you going to stick with name calling?
>>25579048>weird psychotic newfag no u behaviorismYou said "we" here and my reply was my first reply to you in the string. The point is you talk like a faggot and your shit is all retarded.
>>25579050No because I don't have to do anything on your terms, you're not in the position to give out orders, redditor.>>25579051Lmao.
>>25579055rofl xD
>>25579055what a faggoty cuck you are... they were right for bullying you in school.
Is Poul Anderson any good?
>>25579055>No because I don't have to do anything on your terms, you're not in the position to give out orders, redditor.You haven't read any of them faget that's why. Go waste someone elses time
>>25579049They're getting worse and worse in their defensiveness even as the slop he puts out gets more obviously dogshit every year
>>25578167
>>25579066I really enjoyed The Broken Sword (in the original 1954 text, do not get the abridged version he put out in the 70s with Lin Carter). On the other hand, I thought Tau Zero was critically overrated for what it was.
>>25578783Much of Sci-Fi is just Space Opera crap, progressive pap, dystopian shlock, or Gernbackian tripe, Let's move on
>>25578916fuck off banyefag
>>25578750>I'm new to this general, why is the OP like this? And who is pagespammer? Any other schizos I should watch out for?Yev is a tripfag on /sffg/ known for his reviews of books which certain anons dislike due to the reviews being of poor quality. He is part of the goodreads group.Baynefag is a schizo known for shilling a bad self published amazon book series called the Sword of Bayne. He is a newfag ashamed of his newfag status and is obessed with calling everybody else newfags. He hates people discussing popular authors. He is trying to ban certain authors from being discussed on this general (see the ban list in OP)The goodreads group are an insular clique of fags on the /sffg/ goodreads group who occasionally hop in here to defend one of their fellow goodreads fags, usually Yev.Youreviewsareshitfag is an anon who only posts in here to tell Yev his reviews are shit. He got butthurt that Yev badly reviewed one of his favorite novels (a Fritz Leiber or Dunsany book).Antiyoureviewsareshitfag is an anon who posts in here to call out youreviewsashitfag and to defend Yev. He may actually be Baynefag.Pagespammer is new poster in /sffg/, an underage ESL who is dedicated to posting mobile screenshots of pages of books he is reading and critiquing every single page of said book. Never finishes novels. Is obnoxious.Bakkerfag is a anon who has been posting for on /sffg/ for a while about R Scott Bakker and who hates Sanderson. Baynefag tries to pretend pagespammer is one of his aliases
2557907325579078>immediate double-postBakkerfag spam hours.
>>25578783That Becky Chambers book is one of the worst SciFi books I've ever finished. Meandering plot that doesn't go anywhere, set ups with no payoff, and the climax is a literal liberal arts major white woman running off desperate space pirates with the power of empathy.
>>25579078>Yev is a tripfag on /sffg/ known for his reviews of books which certain anons dislike due to the reviews being of poor quality. He is part of the goodreads group.I don't think Yev's reviews are poor quality, certainly not compared to how people usually rate books here.t. not yev
>>25578755It's only been a few threads. Not that long.
>>25579078Wow, I expected only one thread shizo.
>>25579066I liked High Crusade. It's weird SciFi, not the slightest bit hard, but was a fun ride.
>>25579088Agree with this, I appreciate Yev and his reviews, though I don't always agree with them. I'm pretty sure the your reviews are shit guy is also yev, at least sometimes. It should be known Yev is short for Yevsteinbergfeld. >>25579078What a colorful cast of schizos. The latest that you missed is the guy who goes on max character rants about how popular sff books aren't literary.
Books about Vampires? Warhammer Vampires, Masquerade Vampires, Classical Vampires? I know Bram Stroker's Dracula is an obvious pick but are some other recommendations?
>>25579085>a literal liberal arts major white woman running off desperate space pirates with the power of empathy.So it's a Babel-17 ripoff.
>>25579078this general sure has an impressive lore........
>>25579121The Anno Dracula series by Kim NewmanCarmilla by Sheridan Le FanuThe Empire of Fear by Brian StablefordFevre Dream by George R. R. MartinI Am Legend by Richard MathesonSabella or the Blood Stone by Tanith LeeThe Vampire Tapestry by Suzy McKee Charnas
>>25579121Blindsight of course.
>>25579120>What a colorful cast of schizos. The latest that you missed is the guy who goes on max character rants about how popular sff books aren't literary.You may be thinking of pagespammer here, that's what he's doing these days
>>25579207>pagespammerbakkerfag*
>>25579081>>25579220baynefag melty
why can't we all just get along
Because you haven't read Reverend Insanity yet.
>>25579230Because newfags like Bakkerfag abuse the lack of moderation and shit up everything they touch. A third of the thread at the minimum would disappear if he were banned.
Not reading a 1500 page book by a chink
>baynefag projecting
>>25578747Looked this up on Goodreads. Bunch of faggots complaining about sexism and that the author mentions a chicks nipple color. Is there anywhere to go for general reviews of things that isn't full of people that would make 1990's Christian conservative women roll their eyes?
>>25579066I wouldn't trust a book from someone who can't even spell his own name
>>25579266There's the /sffg/ and general /lit/ Goodreads group reviews. Aside from that, maybe you can check out the other social reading sites and see if they're any different. Most paid reviewers probably won't be all that different. Individual reviewer sites probably haven't read whatever book it is.
>>25579276Poul is a Danish masculine given name. It is the Danish cognate of the name Paul.
readlet filtered by 2334 chapters of pure chinakino
>>25579295>ChinaYou mean Zhōngguó.
Songs of the Sun Eater is the newest book from Christopher Ruoccio.
>>25579318How do I unsubscribe from this author's blog?
>>25579325By paying the early termination severance fee.
>>25579325
>>25576160Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson is about a generation ship and deals with its closed system. (If you are an angry incel, no KSR is not a girl.)
>>25578308Riveting synopsis.
>>25579354Tell those dirty 4chan incels, my new friend :D
>>25579360Dumb tranny. Theft isn't acceptable behavior.
>>25579354Is he a gook?
>>25579396From the 1900s to the 1960s, the name Kim was mainly given to boys.Born March 23, 1952 (age 74) Waukegan, Illinois, U.S.
>>25579396You've failed at competitive racism. Kim would be the family name if that was the case.
I read these books when I was a teenager and I remember enjoying them.
>>25579396No his parents just watched the 1950 movie named Kim. His actual first name is John and IIRC his publisher thought that Kim would be a more striking first name for his books.
I bet you'd like some Moor-Cock
>>25579472It's amazing what people will lie about.
>>25579484https://leaflemming.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/in-the-interests-of-frankness-an-interview-with-kim-stanley-robinson/>And the use of your full name – I sometimes wonder whether that creates a kind of distance – whether it’s a conscious act of self-creation, you know, my writer self is different from my private self.>That is very true, yes. I am Stan, and that distancing from the books can be a comfort. But Damon said to me, your parents gave you a very good name. It’s a travel name, you sound like a travel writer, because Kim is of course Kipling’s Kim of India, whom I was named after, and Stanley is like Stanley searching for Livingston, and Robinson is like Robinson Crusoe. And also it’s gender-ambiguous, he said, so that won’t do you any harm. He was very canny.I misremembered what his real name was. IRL he goes by his middle name, I thought Kim was his middle name and he went by another first name which I thought was John. Part about the publisher was correct.
>>25578895>Vance's Showboat WorldNot something I usually read but looks actually interesting, thanks.>>25579085The Wayfarer series is one of the few books I own that isn't in some kind dystopic, I get why some people hate it, for me it's comfy reading.
These Horn books are such a fucking slogIt's just a constant deluge of nothing happening straight-up - everything is indirect, every single event is just informed by people talking about it in the past tense, and even then so much of what they say is just obtuse or allusive. Wolfe did it a few times in the Silk books with a couple of particularly egregious examples towards the end - particularly the actual climax of the whole story, where they approach Mainframe at last, and then immediately cut to the characters saying "wow, what happened at Mainframe was crazy, huh?" - but those were instances in a generally clear narrative. In the Horn books it's like the whole thing. It's not enough that it has the rambling non-linear framing of an old man recounting his memories, that's tolerable. Even within he refuses too just speak those memories. So much of the story just doesn't exist, he'll briefly say "this reminds me of the time [some major plot point happened]", throw out a morsel of story completely out of context, and then not refer to it again for a hundred pages. Like who the fuck is Pig? I keep thinking, soon he will tell me who Pig is, soon Pig will be introduced. and it just refuses to happen. For one and three quarters books I've been hearing offhand references to this Pig fella and he still doesn't exist.I HATE THISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI'M NOT EVEN FINISHED GREEEENaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>25579670>megapopular author>nothing happensFunny how common this is.
started reading six of crows this weekit doesn't really have the saucewas surprised to see that it's a ya novel
>>25579437Korean naming conventions put family name first. So he could have been Mrs. Kim's little boy Stanley-Robinson
>>25579673It's not as simple as nothing happening though, there's definitely a plot trundling along that could be a cool interesting adventure. It's just so hard to parse what it is and what's happening in it because everything is just related offhand as a brief anecdote that never gets contextualised.
>>25578461I read most of these. Nowadays it would be like a video game world.
>>25578215You are in the wrong place. /sffg/ is too stupid for you. You need to go elsewhere .
>>25579867kys, pagebitch.
>>25578585There's some scifi I could recommend. (But I've decided he doesn't deserve it) Doubt there's much if any fantasy he would enjoy.
>>25579893>(But I've decided he doesn't deserve it)cringe retard
Anyway Dandelion Dynasty last chance, then I've decided on Robinn Hobb. She is the lauded character driven writer. I know fantasy will fail me by now in crafting sensible worlds, economics, politicd etc. And they wont stop trying to pretend they craft sensible worlds, so I'm thinking I have to go all in on the character writers.
>>25579888bakkerfag*
>>25579266>Looked this up on GoodreadsI never do that.
>>25579673>>megapopular author>>nothing happens>mystery cult around the books develops
>>25580077It's the most straightforward way of getting a synopsis. I don't usually go to the reviews unless they're surprisingly low, which the aforementioned book's reviews were.
>>25576085Moorcock's title characters are seemingly less interesting than the worlds and people around them. I have enjoyed the Hawkmoon books the most. Jerry Cornelius is probably the most "out there" desu
>>25576062>Banned Authors: Robert HeinleinI love that there's a PKD interview where he mentions how Heinlein and his wife loaned him some money back when he was in debt to the IRS and he was thankful and grateful but made it very clear that he did NOT agree with Heinlein's views.
>>25580298There was a time when left-leaning people would still be friends with and respect someone who didn't share every one of their political views.
Any books with a similar atmosphere to the Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind manga? Is The Word for World is Forest any good?
retard thread
Tell me of a book.
>>25580362I did like Word for World is Forest too
Blightfall fucking sucked and I regret reading it.
>>25580313there still are
>>25576435Book of the New Sun, of course.
>>25579230because it's 4chan, people can be Mad Online and take out their many frustrations on other people
>>25578783Yes, I've read the first three Foundation books, then, a short story, now I'm reading Culture, I'm on book 5
>>25578783I'm rereading Mona Lisa Overdrive rn. I've read the Diamond Age twice, Doomsday Book once, was not a fan of Virtual Light and All Tomorrow's Parties, Fire in the Sun was ok. I'm also reading CJ Cherryh's Downbelow Station and the Difference Engine collab
>>25580453>CJ CherryhBanned author
>>25580457CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh CJ Cherryh
>>25580468You tell him, king
>>25579900She is unironically amazing at writing characters. Like fantastic.
>>25580468Is it good?
>>25578308I bought the first two in hardcover for like $20 bucks at a used bookstore and the second two books in paperback for $6 each. They're cheap and easy to find in the US, take your meds.
>>25580475nice
>>25579673I have long come to the conclusion that fantasy might be my 2nd favourite genre after sci fi, but the average fantasy fan is a drooling moron.
>>25580511>secondhand usedSloppy seconds
i'm glad we're out of the perverted fat dude era of sff but i'm not liking this disabled overweight black woman with sore knees era of sff either.
>>25578743They are full of shit, the book is great, but of course I read it when I was younger
>>25578259Good take
>>25580448>first three Foundation booksif you like those the newer ones from Asimov are also alright>>25580453>CJ Cherryh's Downbelow Stationis it any good? I see it's a part of a 7 book series. I'm looking for the Morgaine cycle from her but it's hard for me to find matching copies in good condition>Difference EngineI have this on my "to read" pile
About to finish the original Book of the New Sun, should I read Urth next or Long Sun/Short Sun? I hear Urth removes a lot of mystery from the setting, but the thought of reading 8 more novels in the same setting back to back is a bit iffy and it's hard to picture them being from anyone's POV but Severian's. BotNS itself has been an amazing ride though, totally understand why it has the reputation it does.Also, has Bakker actually released ANYTHING since TUC?
>>25580432... Will you be my friend anon?
>>25580881Read Urth, you need it to cap off BotNSThe Silk books are decent but don't really connect much with BotNSThe Horn books are less good, and while they do circle around eventually and link up with BotNS, you're not going to have your mind blown.
>>25576062Banned Authors? Why is this board so fucking retarded and gay?
>>25580511>$20 bucks at a used bookstoreHow did you manage to be so ripped off, anon?
>>25580468
>>25580988>noooo let me post adolf hitler wahhhh wahhh wahhh I'm a /pol/tard first warning creep
>>25581133Impersonating a judge with LGBT-friendly intentions. Ten years.
>>25576062cool edition>>25576085>>25576105guys he wrote things other than Elric You know?Try The WarHounds And The World's Pain, The Dragon In The Sword etc
>>25581136>The War Hounds And The World's PainBased. I have the Von Bek compilation in my to-read list.
>>25580236did you read the second part? castle brass etc
>>25581138Can't say I have, mainly because I've heard that it's basically flat out character assassination
>>25581150Wait, there's character development in Moorcock's fantasy franchises???
as someone that has historically torn Greg Egan down for his horrible characters and unrealistic takes on humanity in a post scarcity world, I find it really weird that the focus of the internet's discourse around book of the new sun, book of the long sun, and book of the short sun is character moralities and motivations. For as deep as those worlds are, most people delve deep into the text to come out with opinions like "Severian is a womanizer who can't be trusted!" and "Silk sure does love to leer at whores!" I don't think that these commenters are stupid because they're obviously good at parsing Wolfe's text, but it just feels odd for such a rich world that that is where the discussion is. First of all, Severian and Silk are both characters in what is pretty much a totally alien world and society divorced from modern day, so it's a bit reductive to judge them by modern day sensibilities.. Secondly these are scifi novels, so who really cares...? They don't seem super out of line for normal people, it's not like Severian is like "Holy SHIT Jolenta's tits are HUGE, who cares about the Autarch or the coming of the new sun, because I'm the one who is about to cum!"
>>25578783not really tbqh. the whole genre is losttech. banks is dead or in hiding. the rest are dead, insane, retired, or in hiding. rajaniemi is the only one left and he can't get published. the hugo and the nebula are compromised, publishers other than tachyon are compromised, short fiction is a thing of the past, nobody can compete with ted chiang anyway.scifi is done.
>>25581163SF was a 20th century fad, that's why it died with the next century.
>>25581168it was a pretty gud fad tho
>>25581171
>>25581163banks went back to the Culture for sure
>>25581182I wonder if his fantasy/horror books are as good.
>>25581189people say wasp factory is top tier
>>25578603>>25578339He makes youtube videos playing amongus and claiming that Rowling's idea of the Sorting Hat was "toxic" to children because it promoted the idea that there were types of people. Unfortunately, those examples are not hyperbole.
>>25581216let's be honest, he has nowhere to go with his book series and he doesn't want to give up his celebrity status. He will never publish again imo
Well this was retarded... I was promised some /k/ino of American military hardware taking on aliens, but got fucking vampires instead?!
>>25581275Who promised you that?
>>25581281Anon Y. Mous
>>25581285>Anon Y. Mous
>>25581161>it's not like Severian is like "Holy SHIT Jolenta's tits are HUGE>Jolenta, I think, rebelled physically and psychically against any kind of work, and certainly against this. Those long legs, so slender below the knees, so rounded to bursting above them, were inadequate to bear much weight beyond that of her own body; her jutting breasts were in constant danger of having their nipples crushed between lumber or smeared with paint
>>25581163Banks got cancer ages ago.Reed never stopped writing but he self-publishes to Amazon now.
>>25581509Which Reed?
>>25581538https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?199This isn't even updated with anything from this year.
>>25581545Thanks. Let's go on with that list:Gibson keeps writing but his SF is not so generic nowadays, and makes good money as a futurist just like Bruce Sterling and other classic cyberpunks.Willis hasn't published anything since 2023.
>>25581163>scifi is done.So what if most newer stuff is shit? You can still read the old books.
>>25578259I ask because I used to love Drizzt books, from 14-24 I read all volumes that had been released at the time. Now in my later thirties I tried to pick up the newer publications and I simply stopped mid book as I no longer found it as enjoyable as I used to. I was wondering if Elric would scratch my itch. Or is there another fantasy setting that is more palatable for older audiences. Im not looking for fine art, maybe just a not so obvious Mary Sue protagonist and perhaps the tropes being a bit more masked.
>>25581563I just like to talk about Reed because he has more published stories than anybody (300+) but nobody here reads him except for me. And his Greatship series is fucking dope.He did some writing for the video game Destiny too. I can link an interview where he talked about it if anybody cares.
>>25581583I'm willing to give him a shot, but I have too many novels in my backlog already. What are his best short stories?
>>25581583Both Robert Silverberg (457+), and Isaac Asmiov (383) wrote more. Though Reed would have more if the magazines weren't relatively dead compared to what they once were. As far as I remember l, you've mostly only read his Great Ship novels/short fiction.
>>25581591I exclusively follow his Greatship stories so I can't help you much there. It requires a two-novel commitment first (Marrow -> The Well of Stars (Well is one of my absolute favorite scifi novels)) and then there is nearly nothing else but short stories. Just peep 'em if you get bored sometime months from now.And Marrow was a fine book but he did come back and rewrite it as a short story. There's actually a Marrow short story, Marrow novel, and now Marrow Redux lol I don't remember exactly why something about ownership rights.>>25581612Oh damn. They were all published? That means I'm wrong! Maybe Reed would have more if he were also a Jew lol Reed does talk about "the market" sometimes in his story Afterwords but I don't pretend to understand anything about it.>you've mostly only read his Great Ship novels/short fiction.Yes. I did read The Dragons of Springplace a few years back. It was about a delinquent roaming around some ruins that were nuked.
>>25581622On a related matter, I've read ~30 of Reed's short fiction. Just as a matter of coming across it rather than intentionally. I tried reading Marrow, but I wasn't interested enough. I didn't care that much for the Great Ship stories I incidentally read. I've told you this before, though it is a nice narrative to tell yourself. Others here have also read Reed, including Marrow. The difference is that you're his advocate, and well, you know.
>>25581672Is this Yev? You sound like you're having a bad day and you are itching to pick a fight with somebody.>I tried reading Marrow, but I wasn't interested enoughOkay? That's fine. It is okay to read a book or author and drop it because it didn't suit you.>I've told you this before, though it is a nice narrative to tell yourselfAm I supposed to remember every interaction I have had with you? Keep your tripcode on if you want that kind of attention. As far as I remember, one person read the book and said they didn't like it much. Probably you. I don't participate in the goodreads groups and they're clearly not talking about the author here in the threads.>The difference is that you're his advocate, and well, you know.I know I see a vaguepost. I never said the dude was a perfect writer or anything. Seriously, weird fucking post, dude. You should not be surprised when people give book recommendations in a book thread. Did you get upset because I pointed out Silverberg and Asimov being jews?Save us both the time and work on fixing whatever the fuck caused your bad day instead of @ing me with more strange vague nonsense. You read current year tradpub anyway. Our tastes are wildly different within the genre.
>its another bayne and yev arguing episode
feel like theres some fantasy series that what I'm looking for that I've just forgotten about, i think it was based on spain or something
>>25581774Do you remember any more details at all?
>>25581774World of the Five Gods?
>>25581774Lions of Al-Rassan, or something else by Guy Gavriel Kay?
>>25581795Yup I think thats it. I don't remember why I was interested in it for a while, but I might just try it before Hobb
Man this world of 5 gods reading order just seems too confusing, different people recommend different orders bc its not structured sequentially
>>25581807>pagespammer is confused because there are two different storylines
>‘Dungeon Crawler Carl’ Live-Action TV Series to Begin Shooting in 2027, More Details Coming ‘Very Soon’Who would've though that it would become the next Game of Thrones, propelling the series to be one of the best selling SFF series of all time? The first book has already outsold Eye of the World. It could still be that the TV series doesn't help much. The Wheel of Time TV series certainly didn't.
>>25581846It's on Peacock. It'll have no budget, get 3 viewers, and be cancelled after the first season of 6 episodes.
>>25581846/lit/fags make fun of it but it's a pretty fun read. i think it would do better as an animated series tho.
>>25581848Yes, but it's being done by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Door_Productions which has had several successful shows.
>>25581538Richards
>>25581822Bakkerfag*
>>25581863What a fight club rip off.
>>25581856The only successful shows in that list are Seth's cartoons.
>>25581871Seth will be completely involved with it. There's a chance he'll be able to make it work.
>>25581136>he wrote things other than Elric You know?Yeah, but they're all just variations on his "Eternal Champion" schtick, and have the same flaws that I described.
still looking for the next book before hobb im thinking it has to be...
>another episode of bakkerspammer samefagging again
>>25581879Maybe the earliest books but later ones are more complex. Gloriana for example.>>25581774Tigana?
>>25580976Urth it is thenWhen you say "less good" do you mean relative to BotNS or are they just ass in general?
I've finally read every book I own. It feels so freeing. I also feel like a poorfag now cause I have nothing to read and my ereader is broken.
ngl I tried reading dandelion dynasty again, and im almost genuinely astonished by how much worse I find the writing now, so many instances of writing that is just "X character felt X way". "X character was sure that Y character was a good person", "X character felt that they could trust Y character". "X character couldn't believe that Y character would act in such a way, but X character was fine with it" The last one in particular illustrates my problem, characters will "feel" certain ways, but theres no actual character there so the only frame of reference you have for why they feel that way is the literal text saying so. I've already addressed why Show vs Tell is a flawed dichotomy. So the actual problem isn't whats being told, its that the telling is substituting a character. Notice the contradiction "X character couldn't believe Y character would do such a thing but was fine with it" Why the fuck should anybody care if it doesn't seem to matter enough for the character to "not be fine" with it? Theres just nothing there, nothing to actually give meat to the idea either way, no reason to understand why he would be fine with it, or why not, other than mere superficial difference, but thats contradicted by the disregard of the difference. Even if your excuse was "He is just observing that something is different, but he is not making a judgement" That doesn't make the characterization any more interesting, its still just "X is this, and Y is this" and theres nothing deeper.My theory, based on what I know of the Chinese History, is that this is just shitty foreshadowing of the fact that the two main characters have differences worth noting by one of those characters, enough to eventually care about in an extended context.The problem I will have then, is that either character will still not be anymore characters for that to not feel like pieces on a board who were on the same team, which were always different, simply being literally moved, to fight against eachother arbitrarily. Because the rules are arbitrary, they're not based in anything with enough depth to either explain the change, or to allow the change to be possible.I've been trying to think of how to communicate this. Mata Zyndu is very clearly a pure product of his upbringing, so much so that he's not actually a person, he has no real values, its just an extension of where he came from, theres no doubts, no questioning, no challenge, and therefore he never has to "be" those values because it could be either way. This isnt to say those values don't have reasons to be believed in, but Mata believes in them because they are his family's values, not because of the reasons they were developed and affirmed. That is the problem, there can be no complexity there because the values then become hollow representations of a side, not an actual thing.
Kuni Garu is similar but in the opposite direction, he seems to have taken nothing actually from his family or environment, he simply believes and acts a certain way because he just does, so its just the opposite end of the same problem. Why is Kuni so kind? Because he just is. Why does Luan Zya say Kuni has a noble mind despite being a commoner? Did he read any books? Develop a unique fascination with nobles because of an association with something he values by virtue of an experience he had? No. Thats just how Kuni is. It means that the depth of character can never ever be anything but exactly what is presented, exactly what he does, exactly what he says, exactly how he thinks. You can understand why people would like him. You can't what kind of unique circumstances would make the person so uniquely charming, charismatic, kind, understanding, noble, forgiving, and basically the model shonen main character who is always inexplicably empathetic and understanding in the face of evil, so much so that he can talk no jutsu anybody and it'll work because he, nor the people he deals with were ever real enough, nor were their problems real enough, to actually have to be engaged with "You think war sucks and is pain? Well people can be good because, I one person will be good to you", "Wow thank you naruto, I never considered such an arbitrary fact that some people can be nice, so war that results in pain doesnt suck and I dont need to hate the people who war and shit, also I hate war but am incredibly violent and evil, thats not incoherent at all, but we'll pretend it is because this isnt a real person anyway". I am obviously paraphrasing based off memory and some naruto fanboy will say Pain from Naruto isnt that stupid and simplistic, but I'm 90% confident he is.And unfortunately you run into the same problem with all fantasy, where the characters are just unfortunately too fundamentally intertwined with the world building and themes, so its almost impossible to get away with writing weak characters and still say anything meaningful about your fictional world. I havent even talked about how the "bad guys" in the book are literal ridiculous caricatures that exist solely to give the main characters a conflict to fight against. The book tries just a tiny bit to give them emperor some depth by making him go on a spiel about how he's uniting and advancing the fictional china by conquering it all. But he dies so quickly that his perspective doesnt get to meaningfully establish itself. I also predict that Kuni will arbitrarily adopt that similar perspective because hes a character that just does stuff because he just does.
>>25582364sell your books and get a new ereader + memory card. the world of piracy awaits.
>>25582383>>25582399Ok gripespammer.
>>25582473Only reason I havent been posting the pages to prove what Im saying is because its just less convenient when the screenshot has to be transferred to your phone. Ive almost been debating downloading the books anyway on my phone just so I can screenshot them easier
>>25582473This is Bakkerspammer samefagging like usual.
pagespammerspammer, bakkerspammerspammer, samefaggerfagger
>>25582645bakkerspammer samefagging as usual
Are there any romantasy novels where the human main character marries an elf woman?
noooo let me post adolf hitler wahhhh wahhh wahhh I'm a /pol/tard
>>25582664>random newfag babbleanother bakkerpost
>>25582669Why are you calling me a gigachad?
>>25582671>random newfag babbleanother bakkerpost
>>25582676Why are you calling me a gigachad again?
>>25582383>>25582399The saddest part is that this isn't AI generated
>>25580236I still think Corum is his best character.
Just downloaded a book so niche that it only returned 3 results on the library (you know which one)
>>25582654The King of Elfland's Daughter
>>25582856i hope you read all the greats first if you're wasting time on some obscure shit.
>>25581431She looks malformed desu
>>25582654unironically "the eternal champion" book (and novella)
>>25582400There's no reason to need a memory card. Why do you need thousands of books available at once? Just move a few on at a time.
>>25583236
>>25583223nah, it's actually goated having your library all in one place and carry it everywhere you go. plus, when your ereader breaks, you can carry the card over easily to another device.
>>25580775>if you like those the newer ones from Asimov are also alrightYes, it's just that I'm waiting for a friend of mine to complete the trilogy, but it's in my plans to read the rest of the books
>>25576062looked pretty familiar
