this shit won the nobel prizesweden is such a joke
>>25581786>written by a womanThere it is
>honk fragility thread #25316
>>25581786If you read a summary it will sound like the biggest tumblr piece of garbage you will ever read, and it is, but it's also unironically brilliant.
>>25581836>brilliantI don't see it. Maybe I'm spoiled by the likes of Shakespeare, Milton, Wordsworth, Melville, Tennyson, Yeats, Dickinson, Eliot, Pound etc., but her poetry just doesn't have any ornament, rhythm or striking imagery to it. It reads like a long tumblr post to me. It doesn't even feel that strange when compared to Lispector or Stein.
>>25581786The Nobel prize is a glowop
>write something about gays>be gay, woman, black or any combo Enjoy your accolades
And that could very much be her best book too lol. An ideal work for college students, I guess. Poetrylets are easy to fool.
>>25581786I will never ever ever get the appeal of English poetry
>>25581967This and timblresque shit like Rupi Kaur isn't actual English poetry. Proper English poetry is incredibly beautiful and moving.
>>25581958>>25581819
>>25582007It's true though, look that FOTM Caribbean piece of shit that's just a retards diary. He's gay and black and it's about gays, so accolades
>>25581943>Maybe I'm spoiled by the likes of ShakespeareDo you hear yourself when you talk?
>>25582091Anon's got a point. The excerpt posted is trash
>>25581943Have you actually read Autobiography of Red or are you just judging by random excerpts you found online? The book has a lot more subtle and complex things going on than an excerpt is going to let on. It's written almost childlishly simply and awkwardly but this is just a foil for what is actually happening. It is a very good book. I'm sorry if you don't see it. >>25581976Anne Carson has literally nothing to do with Rupi Kaur.
>>25581943>Before this time Geryon had not lived nights just days and their red intervalsPretty good I gotta admit
>>25582091I tried to be as comprehensive with the list of poets that I read and liked more as I could.I left out Blake, I guess. I think he's a poor poet, but I still like him more than Carson.Hell, even Pynchon's poetry easily beats anything I've seen from her:Thus, reaching for some flower on my table, I know the cool mosaic of my roomBegin its slow, inhibitory dissolveAround the bloom, the stimulus, the needThat brighter burns, as brightness, quickly suckedFrom objects all around, now concentrates(Yet less than blinding), focuses to flame.Whilst there yet, in the room’s hypnotic evening,The others lurk—the books, the instruments,The old man’s clothes, an old gorodki stick, Glazed now but with their presences. Their spirits,Or memories I kept of where they were,Are canceled, for this moment, by the flame:The reach toward the frail and waiting flower . . .And so, one of them—pen, or empty glass—Is knocked from where it was, perhaps to rollBeyond the blank frontiers of memory . . .Yet this, be clear, is no “senile distraction,”But concentrating, such as younger menCan easily and laughing dodge, their worldPresenting too much more than one mean loss—And out here, eighty-three, the cortex slack,Excitatory processes eased to cindersBy Inhibition’s tweaking, callused fingers,Each time my room begins its blur I feelI’ve looked in on some city’s practice blackout(Such as must come, should Germany keep onThat road of madness). Each light, winking out . . .Except at last for one bright, stubborn bloomThe Wardens cannot quench. Or not this time.
>>25581786bomb the ICC now
>25582018>i dont read but feel the need to fit in and look smart!
what makes white males so fragile that everything that crosses their path that is non-white or female is some kind of personal attack against them
>>25582112>even Pynchon's poetry easily beats anything I've seen from hert. retardWe found the American
>>25581786How dare you question their authority?
>>25582100I downloaded the entire book from Anna's Archive, read a few excerpts, and I'm just not feeling it.Excerpts are a great way to judge any author's writing, and it is doubly so for poets. Poetry, at least in my view, is meant immediately to awe you with its language and imagery.Long accumulation of scenes is the realm of novels, which is partly why I dislike them as a genre (minus a few exceptions like James). I can see that she added a "novel in verse", so that could be one of the reasons for my dislike.
>>25582148The book is much more a novel than a poem. She is a classicist and it has much more to do with greek storytelling.
>>25582148>long accumulation of scenes is the realm of novelsThis nigga has never read any medieval poetry and is acting like he is the poetry expert
>>25582135main character syndrome in a nutshell. when you're the hero, everyone else is a villain
>>25582148>She had all her breasts on this eveningWhat the hell does this even mean?
>>255821391 and 5 are based though
>>25582294They are literally monsters. I think the mother in particular is a river nymph or something like that.
>>25582148You're going in with the wrong approach. Carson writes in verse and she's, in my opinion, pretty good at it, but you're right that as a poet alone she isn't one of the greats. Her appeal lies elsewhere. She must be understood as some sort of bricolage artist who employs verses (and sometimes paintings) instead of objects, and not verses just because. As a classicist, Carson's fixation with Greek poetry doesn't have to do much with authenticity, but with how these old verses, as if they were worn objects (and in a very literal sense they are), have come to us, as fragments, as things we can't fully access and we must wonder at, and then she grabs modern words to form a collage of verses that resonates with Greek poetry as a found object. Personally I think she's brilliant. There are a million ways her work could be incredibly gimmicky and annoying, but instead, to me at least, it comes off as such an earnest, tender offering to the reader, like something written by an alien who loves human literature and is trying his best to write a version of it the best he can.
>>25582097>this out of context excerpt from a book I heard about ten seconds ago is... le bad!You are not a serious person
>>25581786>hasn't read it
>>25581786>sweden is such a jokeThis is not literary criticism, OP. Please go ahead and explain what about it you didn't like.
>>25581953Go to bed Sartre your drunk.
>>25581786>Autobiography of red>No red on the coverOne fucking job.
>>25582294>omg I'm thrown into chapter 3 of a book based upon greek myth and something doesn't totally make sense me!
>>25582380I'm still always shocked when someone writes something authentic and lucid on /lit/. Cheers.I also compared her to an alien writing in another thread.Hope you have a nice night anon.
>>25582449>He thinks sepia tone doesn't have red in it.
>>25582380>>25582494This is the third time I've seen Carson's writing described as alien in the threads currently on the catalog. She's actually that good? The Nobel Committee got this one right?
Where are my /Carson/ friends at????This is a Carson board. Misogynists who hate that shes a woman gtfo.
>>25581786had sex with a girl who "loved" this book and even stuck it in her pooper once while drunk
>>25582552The true /lit/ elite knows what's up.She confuses the chud.
I wish the nobel committee recognized John Ashbery before it was too late
