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We're such a fertile board. Almost manure, really.
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>putting the greatest masterpiece produced in this century on the same level as that wet garbage
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A couple seem readable, but that boor shit is really ridiculous. You can feel it's a failed script hastily turned into an almost-novel.

How the fuck is he delusional enough to think his shit is even just acceptable?
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>>25610658
This is very very good.
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>>25610642
we need more. MORE!
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>>25610722
Well, of course. It is the greatest masterpiece of this century, sir. Please pay attention: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n7yZYutBzl1s0kIpc8ILwJe11BDoZ3jW/view
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>>25610728
How many actual writers who have produced book-length works are even on this board?
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>>25610642
The Chemical Divorce one and the Dodo one are good. Maybe that Cur one, if the author can get his head out of his ass for enough time to build a narrative. Everything else is shit.
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>>25610763
We should have at least a dozen. This is just the most recent crop.
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>>25610763
I think they're all still around
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>>25610642
New TB drops Halloween
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>>25610812
post an excerpt at least, not only this gay cover.
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Another shill thread? I actually read the first chapter of each story and the only one that has any lasting potential is Rus.

King of LA is a failed script with the biggest stupidest cliches ever.
Cur tries to go in depth, but it too far often goes off on retarded tangents that overly explains stupid shit. We don't even get a "literary vampire" plot until who fuck knows, because it's not in chapter 1.

All forgotten is a bunch of short stories

Last Dodo is good too, but it's far more of a author's rant than anything. Very /pol/ shit.

Chemical Divorce starts strong then it falls apart very quickly with its chapters being less than a page long with nothing really happening. Tons of pointless exposition as well.

Rus has an actual story with story beats, plot, and movement. I could actually see this one being on a bookshelf or in a store.
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>>25610822
>he actually reads stuff
Sir this is /lit/. We don't read.
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>>25610722
Have more.
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>>25610763
Any with sense wouldn't want their work associated with this shithole.
Intentionally cultivating such a association is to say that you never ever plan on ever working in any industry professionally and never ever going to try to get published anywhere for any reason besides self publishing.

It's not shooting yourself in the foot, it's shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun and somehow botching the shot so you technically survive.
There is only negative to doing so. It's self destructive and stupid. Which is why only self destructive retards do so.

I wrote several stories. You people will never know their titles or where they are published because I would fucking never want my writing linked to you "people".
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>>25610642
terrible cover art
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>>25611156
t. pussy
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>>25611205
I like the Cur cover.
Unfortunately the author is retarded and changed it with a generic, insipid one.
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>>25610642
These are really amateurish, generally. We've produced better artists than this.
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>>25611233
Certainly you're not including Boor's masterpiece in your description.
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>>25611233
/lit/ is a hotbed of true artistic innovation, but no one in their right mind would want any sort of association with it publicly.
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>>25611262
The mediocre pussy ones don't.
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>>25611262
>/lit/ is a hotbed of true artistic innovation
On what basis do you make such a claim? Wishful thinking?
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>>25611265
Some people like being able to be gainfully employed.
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>>25611262
I go back and forth on this. I've already been published in one of /lit/'s old magazines under my own name so if anyone actually did the research my cover's already blown as it is. Sometimes I think I should self-promote my own writing on here more.

Then again, nobody likes an attention whore. I've always hoped /lit/ would find me organically. I DO respect this place a lot, and it'd be nice to be liked by the readers on here.
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>>25611266
>he hasn't read The Legacy of a Totalitarianism in a Tundra
Pfffft... lurk more, newfriend.
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>>25611272
>i want to be admired but without making it clear that I want it, so I hope it will happen by itself
A pussy bitch and a feminine man. Nothing more repulsive. You're basically a tranny. That Boor guy is hilariously incompetent and a genuine idiot, but at least he has more balls than you.
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>>25611266
On what basis do you reject such a claim?
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>>25611277
Do you expect me to roll on my back and show my belly for /lit/'s approval? I've seen how this board treats writers who do that. Yes, actually, I WOULD like this board to admire me organically as a result of me rising as an artist in other venues. I respect /lit/ but it's not my primary audience, that is elsewhere. I'm not F. Gardner.
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>>25611282
I expected you to provide excuses for your cowardice, excuses dressed in smart clothes to dissimulate their ugliness. I was not disappointed.

Not trying to be mean, but somebody like you can't be anything more than mediocre. You worry too much about the wrong things.
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>anon hones his craft on a debauched loli smut forum
>goes legit and attempts to not associate his public work with said forum
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>>25611289
Honest question: what do you think Proust or Joyce or Pound would do, if they posted on /lit/? Do you think they would beg /lit/ for approval? Or Hemingway or Eliot or Faulkner?
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>>25611294
How does one use this two stage contradiction format without > does it even work outside of places like this?
I use and see it so often here but it feels alien in other contexts
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>>25611279
Lack of observable evidence.
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>>25611330
/lit/ is compostable
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>>25611222
Rimon's work is amazing and I'm happy to have it on the cover, the snail stomp was only OK
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>>25611282
I don't particularly care about /lit/'s approval since this board isn't a hivemind and some will like it and others won't.
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>>25610820
Sinner Sees
the Incursion of the Unreal

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A Deo, Omnes Sapientia
“Astrid?”
Her eyes darted from the front windows. She craned her neck to see me, the jerking motion sending her blonde locks into a little flurry. I’d known her since my first year at Hawkins as a carefree, childish thing, so it was especially jarring to see those eyes colored by fear. She said nothing.
“What are you doing here? Where’s the driver?”
When she realized who I was, it must’ve relaxed her. The fear dissolved into a mischievous grin. She sounded the whistle (her gaze still locked on mine), waved goodbye, and, with a booted foot, kicked the door shut in my face. Hesitating, a moment elapsed before I tried to reopen the door, and by then, she’d locked it.
“You weren’t supposed to see that,” a voice said.
I turned around to face Roxanne, Astrid’s bosom friend. She stood with her arms crossed like an administrator about to scold me, her lips pursed into a condescending pout.
“See what?” I asked, bewildered.
“Forget about it,” she answered.
“Forget about what?”
“There you go.”
“What are you talking about? What’s Astrid doing in the cab?”
“It’s always twenty questions with you,” she said, rolling her eyes.
“You’re hiding something.”
Roxanne smirked. “Why don’t you go write about it in your little paper?”
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>>25611272
I wrote a book and selfpublished it and am trying to get a couple short stories published in various ways but idk if I'd share it here. Feels unwise
So to answer your question there's definitely a good amount of actual writers here that don't dox themselves, probably a few surprising ones if we knew who they were
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>>25611545
It doesn't fit the tone of the book and looks generic YA slop.

The other cover caught my eye, this one is invisible.
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>>25611617
You haven't even read the book and you're trying to educate the author on its tone. Never change /lit/
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>>25611752
What makes you think I haven't read it?

Also, covers need to have an impact BEFORE the potential reader reads the book. If a cover feels insipid, it has failed.
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>>25611545
generic, boring slop

and some details like the writing on the shirt make it look like AI slop even
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>>25611553
Meh. Serviceable, but not a single impactful/beautiful sentence. Readable but insipid, like the stuff that a redditor could write.
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>>25610822
The Chemical Divorce's sections aren't chapters. There are nine to correspond to the Nine Gates. Its plot is an occult allegory based on ancient Egyptian ritual
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>>25611413
Can you name a more creatively fertile message board or website?
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>>25611981
You replied to the wrong post I think.
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>>25611262
this
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https://www.youtube.com/@TheProvincialLady
https://www.youtube.com/TheBookBelle
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The Chemical Divorce has some interesting themes about protecting literature at any cost, which dovetail with its Nietzschean ending
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>>25612026
this isn't a fap thread.

well I guess now it is.
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>>25611907
Tell me how it ends.
Also, you can spend a hundred more posts calling it insipid, I'll still think it's wonderful.
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>>25611913
>>25611911
Insipid critique
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>>25612718
Petty and immature like a woman. Just as prone to sperging out on the page about autistic personal grievances too, from what I've seen. And not enough style, thought or imagination to compensate for it.

4/10 Mediocre.
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>>25611927
then that didn't come across whatsoever. You really should learn how a reader interprets things. You can say your work is deep, compelling, and uses the philosophies of Decartes, Kant, Aristotle, and mixes them with the psycholanalytics of Jung, but if the reader doesn't pick up any of that shit by the end of the first chapter, your work failed.
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>>25612757
4/10 bait, made me reply
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>>25612819
The exoteric narrative is just there as a scaffolding to undergird the magical allegory. I'm not saying The Chemical Divorce is deep: it literally is a beat-for-beat reenactment of an occult initiation, except I moved up the "sword to throat" gesture to immediately get the reader's attention. Normally, that would take place later in the ritual, which has now been preserved for future generations in the form of this short story.

The piece is intended as a character study of Anton LaVey and a meditation on Objectivist thought. Would it be moral to sacrifice an innocent person to save the Library of Alexandria? To save a single book? Where do we draw the line? This is the sort of question that interests me, and I hope it interests my readers, too.
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>>25612860
>Would it be moral to sacrifice an innocent person to save the Library of Alexandria? To save a single book? Where do we draw the line? This is the sort of question that interests me, and I hope it interests my readers, too.
The question isn't the problem, it's the delivery. You can write about such subjects as well as use your prose, but there's nothing there to actually tell this story. Take a look at chapter 2

>Beyond Byzantine halls, at the northern wall of the supply closet, towered a monolithic gate. Pagan statues, structural since the conflagration, flanked the threshold. They were exactly my size, six feet and three inches tall, as though we had been chiseled from the same marble. Crushed by the additional weight, both titans supporting the sagging arch were crumbling to powder.
Tell us it's in Egypt as a hint, not some Byzantine hall, especially when the Library of Alexandria is in Egypt and burned down in the 7th century, 300 years before when the Great Schism happened. If you want us to care about book burnings, then set the stage up. These are the hints you need to provide and not just inane ramblings that confuse the reader.

>I dredged out of my cassock’s sopping pocket a keyring. Thrusting a rusty key inside the lock, I imagined four radial engines sputtering, wondered how it would feel for my own thumb to hover over the red button, to drop munitions as a housemaid drops dirty laundry. To die was mortal: to kill, divine.

>Deeper, deeper. A click. As pins met the shear line and the cylinder revolved, the key snapped off and broke the lock. Ejected from my hallucination, I stooped over, knees bent, nostrils flaring, to catch my breath. The gate creaked open. Raising my hood, I crept over the cobblestones into the grotto.

The other paragraphs are fine, but should probably be put into chapter 3 where we finally see some damn books and find out its a library.
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>>25612965
Not literally the Library of Alexandria: I meant that as an example. That said, the point stands. Furthermore, the Codex does refer to a specific, real book.

As for the scene divisions, a reader whom I hired had complained that "the absence of scene breaks... contributed to my confusion." In response to this, I added the dinkuses whenever there was a location change or time passed. (In retrospect, I suppose I could have done something novel like adding a scene break whenever a light was ignited or extinguished.)

Consequently, some of these sections are longer than others. For the Royal Road release, I like the way the sections are named in the style of "Half-Life," especially the double entendre for the finale.

Overall, I am very confident in the piece's prose, and all of the feedback has been positive. Again, we apologize to those who read the first edition, which was rushed out the door to prevent one of our innumerable beta readers from publishing the piece as their own.
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>>25613004
I know it's not literally it, but thats what I mean when you hint at the story. You use Egyptian-Greek motifs, not Byzantine. My issue is the delivery of the piece and the fogginess of what you're trying to convey.
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>>25613013
It's all Greek to me.
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>>25610642
look at all these great novels i'm never going to read. I'm sure they are all fantastic.

Nothing turns you off of reading faster than surrounding yourself with the kind of people who read and write books.
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>>25613026
That applies mostly to fiction though.
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>>25613033
they are honestly the most affable and tolerable of the bunch.
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>>25611545
holy botched. you must be in love with or otherwise trying to court this individual to be so blind.



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