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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak

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Worm's finally getting an adaptation. It's IDW but I'm not very worried due to the fact Wildbow is on record for being profoundly autistic with his adaptation requirements.

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>>25615905
holy shit she is ugly

>>25615905
>New material for "fans" who only read worm fanfiction to sink their teeth into
Looking bright

>>25615930
I thought she didn't look ugly enough but then I remembered she's supposed to be plain looking

>>25615905
>>25615930
yup she looks like she fucks black dudes (canon) or lesbians (fanfic)

>>25615977
>imagine knowing this
mutt's law

>>25615982
I remember it because I recall Grue being the most normal person in that entire group and Taylor trying to get turd-dick while the poor fucking guy was traumatized so hard he got new superpowers. It was the moment that cemented in me that Wildbow knew how to write women because that was a uniquely womanly evil.

>>25615905
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>>25615956
>coalburner
Holy fuck RIP

>>25615930
She looks like an adult

>>25616124
It's not a big deal if they appropriately depict her as a horrible person because she's a batshit insane teenager. I'm worried they will forget that part, though.

>>25615905
>>25615930
here's the articles about it:
https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2026/10/27/worm-is-getting-a-2027-comic-adaptation-with-idw-publishing/
https://gizmodo.com/groundbreaking-web-serial-worm-is-becoming-a-comic-book-exclusive-2000830772

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People like to joke about how webnovels are low effort literature, about how they are "Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues," but I can't for the life of me play the game like that, I need to know I did everything I can to make every individual chapter perfect in every way possible. It's exhausting, but worth it. Everyone should do their greatest effort when writing something with the intention of publishing and make patreon bucks. Why bother doing something if youre gonna do it wrong or sloppily?

>>25616340
I took this same approach with mine (still am with my next project because I am mentally ill) and the issue is now you're putting all the effort of a novel into something as rapid-pace and pulp-economized as a web novel. This will fuck your brain up in the long run. You better be wolfing down 20mg of creatine daily just to undo the brain burn.

I can’t read or write normally anymore.
The years of reading Japanese and Korean novels have completely fried my brain.
I can't focus on long paragraphs. Heck, I find moving my eyes away from the left side of the screen to be exhausting.
I want to be able to fix my sight on a certain point and read from top to bottom in one continuous scroll.
That can't be healthy.
But damn…
It feels natural.
It feels like home.
Fuck.

>>25616340
Take the moorcock approach.

>>25616378
I'm actually optimistic about the process of creating a webnovel as a perfectionist, because as it becomes apparent that the readers aren't all perfectionists themselves and don't care whether the story is burger- or filette mignon-tier, the author can relax more and more.

>>25616407
>Anon got mind broken
AEEIIII

>>25616407
Put on a pink skirt and stocking and be my girlfriend please.

>>25616340
>It's exhausting, but worth it.
Is it?

>>25616340
I strive to be the best I can to make every chapter meaningful. I have a patreon but not using it in the usual grifting sense at all however, rather I just set it up as general support and state there's no advanced chapters, same with ko-fi. I don't write for money because I already have a daytime job and I don't want to strain myself with what I write that has no job security attached to it.I don't find writing exhausting at all, I can plan out, sketch out things at my own pace with at least a semblance schedule. >>25616411 has nailed it the most; couple that with the profound attitude that readerbases everywhere don't care if something is human made or not, so long as it's good. With that in mind, I'm just perfectly relaxed about the process as a whole and completely do things at my own -ace, double that with not being a chaibed ball slave to the market, I have no readers. I'm not bothered, thete's at least two people who still read it out of 70 botters/guestx that even that has decreased to 10. I write for the love of the craft and to write a compelling start to finish stand-alone story, but unironically.

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

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The only thing I care about from the Worm comic is more Amy.
Will she cause more discourse once again? Or will she be changed up? She did NOTHING wrong and is best girl.

25616686
retard bumping the thread with his ritual phrases like a wired up lab monkey, trying to keep the general alive while not realizing he's one of the biggest reasons it died.

>>25616804
been doing it since 2019

kill!

>>25616340
Same feeling here. I have a hard time writing anything but things important to the story (I include content that fleshes out characters in that category). I write something I'd want to read, and that's something that doesn't waste time with bullshit. If something doesn't have purpose, it doesn't get to stay just so I can bloat the word count.

[American brackets are so ugly.]
【Literally anything is better.】
『Anything.』
«Anything.»

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>25617263
>Gemini_Generated_Image

>>25617263
Fang Yaun says trans rights are human rights, and that those who cannot accept that will never transcend fate.

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>>25617263
Depends on your own beliefs

Hi. I am new to the webnovel scene, writing xianxia about hating yourself a whole lot and struggling to overcome people who hate you even more than you hate yourself. I am planning on smashing my face into royal road once I have enough of a backlog prepared. (Currently I have about 30 chapters but a lot of them are badly in need of an edit. I want to make sure that I start things off strong, even if I won't have time for constant editing if I start doing this for a living.) I'm reading the guides and learning a lot about how to market and hopefully make it to rising star- but I really really want someone to take a look at what I've got and tell me if I'm even remotely on the right track. I write a lot, but I've never (seriously) written cultivation/xianxia before this.

If anyone would take a look, I'd be really pleased. Even if you just open it, read five sentences, and say "This is bad, I stopped reading because of [reason]" that would help a ton! Thank you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NzSs11CpjA8uzLbTZOg2S9x46AhwcsGye3vItCIqIC8/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you!

>>25617397
>writing xianxia
>about hating yourself
Pick one.

>>25617406
ahhhh!! you may be joking, but this is actually invaluable feedback for me! Thank you!

I was going for 'I am so cool, but my bloodline is tainted so everyone hates me, and that makes me sad'. But maybe I should tone down the self loathing. That's a good thing to consider!

>>25617397
i only have experience reading translated webnovels from novelupdates and i didnt like what i saw in royal road so take my opinion with a grain of salt:
its too monologue-y, too anecdotal, too.. personal.
compared to what ive read: which is packaged and stale.. maybe RR audience is different but it takes effort for me to have read that first page, i had to think.

the wns i read were stylistically indistinguishable from each other so i can blaze through 10 chapters to know if i like it or not. but while i could be intrigued by your interesting-factoid introduction, a part of my brain just tells me: why am i investing so much energy into something i normally just consoom (why bother? i know stories can be absolute dogshit or turn absolute dogshit or a plotline can come that i fucking hate, why cant i find the signal for it)

>>25617263
Awesome images. Link to story?

>>25617432
This is also really good feedback, thank you. I'm really *happy* with what I wrote in the first chapter, but I feel like it might be a stiff opening, yeah. One thing that I've considered is flipping the first and second chapters. (In fact, I already moved a later chapter and turned it into the current chapter two: because I wanted some action and murder to start us off.) Then we'd stay chronilogical, start with action, but also we'd get the opening of confessing to a bunch of murders. Which would hopefully make you want to know 'how did she get caught? who is she confessing to?'

Either that, or maybe I will just trim down the opening monologue... Or move it much later into the story? I'm not sure.

>>25617397
also, first person perspective: bad
its paradoxically less immersive than third person, the 'I's stand out.

so my take is that i'd like it more formulaic (it would also be easier to write in the long run), less worldbuilding.

>>25617438
take it with a grain of salt. you already wrote it. make it what you'd like to read it as - as a reader

>>25616340
Based. Chase that perfection king.

>>25616804
What are you on about? /wng/ is one of the most active generals on /lit/

Discoverability is pretty much impossible now on Royal Road huh? My story gets buried within seconds of uploading. It's either you pay for an ad or go for 100 shout out swaps just to get discovered nowadays

>>25617397
Xianxia is a well established genre, what you wrote is definitely not xianxia.

only western stuff ive been reading is GOT fanfics. good stuff, ive gotten love the perspective chaptering and a known world state.

>>25617469
That's kind of what I was afraid of. I may have to rethink what I'm doing entirely... Can I ask where you stopped reading? It would be very helpful for me.

>>25617481
Damn it, I fell for the AI bait.

>>25617263
They're both right, Seo is right because he's the only good guy in the story (besides Vast Cold) and Fang Yuan is right because the Gu world is a hellhole.

>>25617484
I am not an AI because I am capable of saying racial slurs. That said, I'm probably too used to writing other genres and didn't take this seriously enough. I have a bad habit of just writing whatever I want to write.

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>MC is an adult salaryman who happens to get turned into a little girl
>immediately mentally regresses into a child and becomes addicted to roblox
Who is this written for

>>25617685
This gets explained every week I swear.
Asian men can't conceive of reading a females actual pov. So to write a story for them with a female lead the authors have to contrive a gender bend at the start and like 4 sentences where they miss their dick then the rest of the story never mentions this again and it's just about the femc.
In your example the story is actually just about a little girl. The salaryman part is an illusion.

>>25617685
i remember reading this one where the MC turns into a girl in a apocalypse situation and his male lead lover is some ruthless guy, and the MC is subservient in all matters including the bedroom.. Like immediately the bedroom.

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>>25617712
I genuinely hate this trope bro
Even though I love youjo senki I can't just help but think "ok this could have just been a story about an evil little girl with zero isekai strings attached". Even though the isekai aspect does add some humor to it, it just devalues her achievements in a weird way

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lol

>>25617852
Writing like the first is why I try to stay away from translated works, because damn it is bland

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>>25617464
I ran 2 ads one's current and mostly just for fun bc I drew it on a whim, and ads aren't as impactful as you think. If you're off-market(ie not isekai, cultivation, xiana, litrpg), it's simply just impossible to begin; outliers are outliers and just because one ai genned sci-fi off market story made it to RS#1 doesn't translate to other off-market stories they can succeed too. But don't write for the hope of discoverability, just write for the love of the craft, you are your own audience. It is incredibly soul crushing to see a similar genre off-market story explode into 80,000 views and over 200 followers and 70 favs, and I only have 5k views. It is what it is, all because they did shout out swaps. It is what it is, and #1 thing is if you're not writing what the market craves you're just sol. Savior and appreciate the readers you do have.

>>25617852
>baby archmage
so just a mage? fuck you. slapping arch on everything just to justify your bullshit

>>25617852
>NO AI WRITING
>even synopsis is blatantly AI

>>25617881
understood saar we will change the title
archbaby mage

>Korean story has an "official English release" on Royalroad
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/193629/how-to-devour-a-star-author-of-damn-reincarnation
>it claims to be translated by a human
>said human is just referred to as "Josh"
hmmmm

also do Koreans know that their shit gets translated using Japanese names sometimes? something tells me they wouldn't be too happy about that

>>25617263
what is the appeal of the gutless korean mc?

>>25617888
sensible chuckle

>>25617915
Western MCs: cucks
Japanese MCs: simps
Chinese MCs: psychopaths
Korean MCs: misogynistic to the point of being gay
Now you know.

>>25617958
Clara Casewell isn't a cuck though.

>>25617958
RotC MC isn't misogynistic though. If anything he's the reverse of the Chinese MCs.

>>25617895
do you not trust josh?

>>25617915
>seo eun hyun
>gutless

>>25617968
Iris is a cuck

>>25618165
wrong

>>25617263
>>25617436
The one on hte left is regressors tale of cultivation.
>>25617334
seh has friends who genderbend

>>25616340
I'm a perfectionist too but webnovels are an exception. On the occasion my stuff becomes successful, I can simply perfect it in a rewrite later on. If it goes nowhere then at least I didn't waste my time and effort on a book doomed from the start. No one takes webnovels seriously outside of East Asia.

>>25618234
>On the occasion my stuff becomes successful, I can simply perfect it in a rewrite later on.
It greatly improves your odds of becoming successful if your slop isn't an unintelligible mess the first time. The readers won't eat up just anything, when the supply has exploded and AI has raised the bar on things like grammar, pacing, and sentence structure. The general tolerance towards mistakes and inconsistencies in writing is lower than it's ever been

I am reading Talent beyond limits, it's AI and was quite bad initially but after around 50 chapters the 'author' either started using a different AI or just got better at prompting and the story improved

>>25618364
>I'm reading AI
subhuman taste

>>25617852
Who reads this? Who reads Archmage isekai stories? Why are they so popular? Why are they popular at all?

>https://www.royalroad.com/pages/advertising-faq
>$55 is the minimum to publish an ad with about 1% of chances of bringing about new patrons.
I only publish 3 chapters per week, so I'm merely seconds on Latest Updates every couple days. I only have 2 paying patrons, (not even close to covering those $55 anyte soon), and my general discoverability on RR has been very low, but there's no way I'm paying for ads. I doubt Primal Hunter and New Life as an Archmage ever spent money on ads. I'm sure they're proof that when your story is good, word-of-mouth is more than enough to get discovered by the masses... or what do you think?

>>25618672
>Good
More like if you have a good enough premise people will show up; everything else is true though

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>>25618649
Being literally 12 helps, I guess

>>25618672
I have 2000 followers and I've never bought a single ad, done any shoutouts, review swaps, and am not on discord. Just write something that's fun

>>25618725
RR page link?

>>25618721
is this the average webnovel reader? am I targeting the wrong wrong audience?

>>25618742
Yes. Make sure to keep things grade school friendly or go home. Anytime deeper or requiring more brains and sophistication than a Marvel movie gets ignored.

just took heaping, stinking pile of a read of this BTTH fanfic (BTTH is a classic xianxia like Coiling Dragon)
and that shit is dated as fuck, it just goes to show that it was carried by its emerging genre.
and to the point of my post:
if you write something new, then you really can ride a wave despite being mediocre - a fish into a dragon if you will

>>25617769
Reverend Insanity?

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>>25618760
you can always target the pretentious chuuni middle schoolers looking for some thinkslop

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>>25618917
of course you can... from the poorhouse or wherever the thinkslopniggas who never even passed the $50 mark on Patreon reside. So go ahead, nerd, write your deep philosophical trash, me and the rest of the LowIQChads will be on the yacht where we write our shonen and Marvel-like masterpieces.

>>25618672
>I doubt Primal Hunter and New Life as an Archmage ever spent money on ads
They both did, I've seen them multiple times.

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>>25619042
most thinksloppers are employed and just doing this as a hobby

you write for money. we write for pussy. enjoy your $50 ive got fans to groom on discord, lil man

>>25619049
This. You either gotta spend money to make money, know someone, or both. To think otherwise is naive.

>>25617882
>even synopsis is blatantly AI
Bad writing and AI writing aren't the same thing. This is obviously not AI. The rough cadence and constant writing fuckups like starting sentences with but and putting commas before because read more like a teenager.

>>25619148
You also gotta make it interesting. That's the one thing you can do regardless of finances or networking, to paraphrase big dick manga editor Hitoshi Koike who proved even absolute dreck will sell internationally if you make it interesting.

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Now we know what Gu is.

what is goo

>>25619208
it is what spuddles and spumes out of my stubby and veiny truncheon with the thickness and consistency of caramelized cane sugar but the smell of boiled sauerkraut

It's crazy how much of my life I wasted on this story that never got any traction

>>25619152
How can something be a dreck and be interesting at the same time? Being interesting means to be good, and viceversa.

>>25619316
Link?

>>25619316
if you read the faq you were supposed to make several other stories.
you should have been pumping different chapters 1 from the beginning

>>25619316
Did you tell the story you wanted to?

>>25617712
That's because the asian male understands that a female is not just a male with tits and a vagina, thus reading a western style "female pov", which is actually just mtf tranny pov, is not desirable.

That Fight Dirty story on rising stars started okay and then the author just introduced guns which destroy the entire setting.

>>25616340
One man's trash is another man's treasure. That "sprawl" and "pacing issues" is why I'm reading web novels in the first place.
If you've read a bunch of tradpub novels you recognize the same patterns over and over again. It's not that WNs don't have those same cliches like bubbling MCs that again victory through something stupid, but rather that that's not all they have. Tradpub trims down the fat so much that that's all you've got left. End result is that you've got a whole bunch of different stories but half of it is the same in all of them.
That's why western haremfantasy doesn't work either. It's so focused on the harem aspect that all the other parts of the story are formulaic and boring. At least with a WN you have the ambiguity that the story lasts a long time ago everything isn't immediately predictable.

Why shouldn't I write like a LN translation?

>>25619316
i'm pretty happy with the results of my finished novel. It took many years to write due to a variety of setbacks but i'm happy its done.

>>25619151
No, there are several sentences and patterns that LLMs frequently use. The two bolded lines and what to expect formatting are the same as in all the other AI stories too. "Sounds like x" is no way to identify it, you can set the clanker to imitate any tone and target teen demographics. You just memorize the tells

>>25619428
>Being interesting means to be good
I used to think this too and it's hilariously naive and untrue. Readers can be interested in only one specific thing in an otherwise dogshit story and read 500 chapters and subscribe to patreon just to see will the MC dick down their favorite waifu, or something and skip everything else. And the moment the answer is clear, they drop the whole shit without looking back. If the author includes a lot of small hooks, it doesn't matter if the story as a whole is infuriatingly retarded bullshit. There's still a bit of something for everyone

>>25619546
Can you even write like a LN translation?

>>25618725
Sounds too good to be true. Like you're a genius or something. How much are you making on Patreon?

>>25619655
Could've done better. There were several small things that would've easily drawn in more readers, very obvious in hindsight, but I just didn't think about it at launch. I'm making a bit over $500 atm

>>25619686
Huh. I've got 3,5k followers and I make less than that. Wonder if that's a difference of Patreon pricing or something else..

>>25618725
When did you start publishing your first stories on RR?

>>25619716
I have the usual three 5-10-15 tiers. Almost everyone's subbed to the $15 tier for most chappies