>>25621137
I'm an Assadist and I will never know peace until the Lion of Syria is restored to the presidency.

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>>25621137
I just want to read and shitpost.

>>25621144
Those tests are stupid. I took the picrel one and could only answer “neutral” or “undecided” or whatever it was, because the correct answer to every question was, overwhelmingly, “it depends”.

I am a retardism accelerationist. I want AI slop to become ubiquitous so 98%+ of humanity surrenders their thinking abilities to an algorithm and their brains atrophy.
In the meantime, I will be engaging in serious intellectual deliberation (shitposting on /lit/).

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When i were a kid i was a basic bitch liberal, watched the daily show, was into new atheism, thought bush was the devil. Back then it was very easy to be a liberal because the right were stick up the ass evangelical moral police that wanted to control what you can do and say.

Then somewhere around obamas second term liberals had a lobotomy and decided they were the new stick up the ass moral police that wanted to control what people could say and do, or what would be called social justice warriors, or now, woke. Needless to say with the rise of the alt right and trump i became more right wing.

eventually trump became a failure that went back on everything he promised, no new wars, fixing the economy, etc. So im completely black pilled on electoral politics. In my 20s i would explore various extreme ideologies, thanks to the internet i now had access to research such things. And i would ping pong between fascism, communism and anarchism, sometimes combining and fusing them together, i was a complete schizo mess politically.

Eventually i would come to the conclusion that as a schizo neet the fascists would send me to ZE CAMPS, and i couldn't be a fascist. And im a neet, so marx would consider me lumpenproletariat trash so i would def be sent to DA GULAG in the event of a communist government. And i couldnt return to being a liberal or conservative because i dont hate myself enough and im never going to pull myself up by my bootstraps

So that left one ideology left, anarchism, i was most interested in the anarchism of max stirner and uncle ted, and jaques eulle, im also a lazy antisocial anarchist who doesn not participate in the anarchist community because its filled with gay libtards

On an earthly level I'm a democratic socialist but zooming out I realize both sides have their part to play on this plane

>>25621165
>the right were stick up the ass evangelical moral police that wanted to control what you can do and say
Replace were in that sentence with are still

>>25621137
which works of Lenin should one read?

>>25621177
there was a short period where the dissident right were true avant garde, the call to trigger the libs was similar to the French decadents call the shock the bourgeoisies. this was an interesting time were the right became the new counter culture, but it ended and got filled with grifters and Charlotteville and trump ended up sucking, etc

right wing in 2026 are just trad fags who are mirror image of woke

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>>25621144
>gets bleeding heart ancap
what did your test mean by this

>>25621174
If you think about it, conservatives... counter-revolutionaries do indeed become one of the mechanisms through which social, political and historical change happens, but which can also lead to wildly different results than from what they anticipate because they inadvertently bring about what they seek to stop or make certain changes more likely to happen because they fabricated some fake trans stuff to frighten their own idiot kids only for them to troon out later having been exposed to it in the first place. Yes it's quite a paradox, a cunning of history, but it's all part of the dialectic.

I’m a trotskyist

>>25621137
Actual classical liberal, in that I have values and beliefs like what the founding fathers and the people they were pulling from had. Not the useful fiction about them that were later made up.

>>25621206
why do communists post stuff like this but then don't actually do a revolution

>>25621243
Because I don't actually want to kill people or even inconvenience others beyond raising taxes.

O algo.

>>25621243
the same reason they never talk about actual work or producing anything.

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Idk. I've recently come to the conclusion that politics are necessary but not sufficient. Nobody is coming to save us.

As for what I think is necessary? Strong labor protections and a big stick to smack assholes with

>>25621137
Mostly Nazi edgelords, plus one single Marxist who posts 20 threads per day.

>>25621139
I'm an Assassin too.

>>25621330
>one single Marxist
that makes us two which falsifies your statement

>>25621155
A lot of people do not think that it depends, anon. That's why we have ideologies.

I'm a carrot farmer.

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>>25621368
You think you aren't beholden to politics, yet politics made you choose carrots over potatoes.

Well, too young to vote certainly ... and you know how adolescents develop their fixations.

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>>25621137
this

I don't like coloured people

>>25621165
Yeah you got me.

I wish people knew as little about me as they do about Max Stirner.

Everyone is obsessed with me.

I am the Monolith

ZA MONOLITH

>>25621420
pedo

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Anarcho-objectivist.

Generally anti-socialist and anti-collectivist in general.

anarcho-obamaist with chinese characterist

>>25621137
Also, if the point you are making is that I'm wrong about politics then fine.

I was very happy keeping all my opinions too myself.

I got gaslite into thinking people actually cared about what I had to saw.

I know I'm stupid. That's why I don't talk. All my ideas are terrible. I never want to say anything people it people take it all way too seriously.

So congrats. You guy took advice from a OCD racists who was into economics. And you thought he could answer all of life problems.

But instead you just got Hitler.


So now Lenin is a racist and he loves Hitler.

Congrats, you all played yourselves

>>25621444
Also. I'm never going ever give any suggestions about how society should be run ever EVER EVER.


I'm never going to trust another human being ever.

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>>25621423
PEDO

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>>25621491
This isn't a joke.

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>>25621423
Kill this guy

>>25621423
I'm more sure this guy is a pedo than I am about me being Lenin.

idk if I'm Lenin, but that guy is definitly a pedo

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>>25621342
You are specifically the lowercase-posting tranny faggot I was talking about.
>implying there's two of you
Typical Marxtranny gaslighting. Neck yourself.

>>25621137
Robert Heinlein style Classical liberal. Liberty, freedom, but there's no such thing as a free lunch.

>>25621165
Why not become a classical liberal and go to New Hampshire?

>>25621137
I'm not really political. I'm Catholic and environmentalist, that's about it. Any perspectives on how we should manage ourselves and/or society derive from those two points.

>>25621137
went from being an atheist neocon to anarcho-capitalist to beefsteak nazi to traditionalist over the course of 25 years.

>>25621383
It's harder to explain how you got a potato stuck in your ass, that's for sure.

Sorry, that's just carrot farm humor for ya.

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I'm a constitutional monarchist.

>>25621137
Blue Labour. Socially right-wing, fiscally left-wing

>>25621517
Are these Marxtrannies in the room right now?

>>25621137
I went from being a Marxist to being quietist (ie, I checked out of politics) when I realized the left was at best an unwitting puppet of Islamism, and at worst knowingly one. When people are telling me Pakistan is historically progressive, I know their movement is a lost cause

I am so far left I have become far right

somewhat socially conservative, but feel the state should not enforce moral doctrines through law. education should avoid focusing on social ideologies, prioritizing instead the acquisition of knowledge.

not necessarily nationalist but pragmatic/realist in foreign policy and government should prioritize citizenry, but don't care about "purity" nonsense or larps or irredentism/imperialism
economically left leaning/mixed economy, statist

people ultimately need some sort of structure but there needs to be a balance to allow for freedom of thought and opportunity for those most capable or intelligent

I have arrived at the only coherent political position remaining in the twenty-first century: national social democracy domestically, Kissingerian realism internationally, and absolute spiritual allegiance to the European civilizational project between 1815 and 1945.

The fundamental problem with modern politics is that everyone wants to live in a functioning civilization but nobody wants to make the morally compromising decisions necessary to maintain one. The liberal wants prosperity without borders, the socialist wants solidarity without national identity, the conservative wants tradition without material security, and the fascist wants national greatness without understanding the realities of working class labor.

I want a country where a steelworker can afford a three-bedroom house, where the trains arrive on time, where the national opera receives generous public funding, where one feels a coherent role in the national body, and where we are unafraid to maximize prosperity without regard to petty moralism. This is called civilization.

You cannot redistribute wealth without defining the community to which redistribution applies. You cannot have solidarity without belonging. The nation is a historically constituted political community, bound together by institutions, memory, language, and the social contract.

Henry Kissinger understood something that almost nobody in contemporary political discourse understands: States have interests. Great powers have spheres of influence. Geography exists. Nuclear weapons exist. The balance of power exists. Game theory is real.

The true realist must recognize that civilian deaths, political legitimacy, and historical resentment are themselves strategic realities. A foreign policy that ignores morality eventually becomes strategically incompetent as it can be used against you, so barbarism is not the answer, but neither is moralism or diplomacy. It is situational.

The purpose of an economy is to sustain a society. The purpose of a society is to reproduce a civilization. The purpose of a civilization is to create conditions under which human beings can live dignified lives, raise families, produce great art, and enjoy leisure without worrying about death knocking on their door at any moment.

I believe all political arrangements are temporary compromises between incompatible goods. There is no final synthesis, only the circumstance. I am interested in leaders who understood that political responsibility involves choosing between bad outcomes rather than announcing one's commitment to good ones, and those who can address the issues of the day and maintain civilization and the standards we set.

My ideal government would combine Scandinavian welfare institutions, Gaullist strategic autonomy, German technocratic industrial coordination, and Soviet level cultural subsidies (but not communism itself)

>>25621137
White Nationalist

>>25621330
it do be like that mista stancil

marxist
unapologetic

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i am a firm and steadfast believer in mid-century norwegian social democracy and the policies of the labour party during pre and post-ww2 norway.

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>>25621137
I am a monarcho-communist. I want a divine right monarch to seize and redistribute the means of production, and I am not joking.

>>25621921
typical super online and post-ironic position. goes perfectly with your memetic coomer waifu image.

Neo-Reactionary. To be fair I don't use /lit/ much anymore.

Anarchist

>>25621137
I used to be a right wing traditional conservative. Left leaning economically and right leaning socially. With some sympathy for the far right positions but a lot of disagreements as well.

Nowadays I lean a lot more towards Marxism. My STEM education and materialist outlook on reality probably has got a lot to do with it. There are aspects of Marx that are simply too objectively true to be denied without mental gymnastics, delusion, misunderstanding (deliberate or otherwise), or schizophrenia.

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>>25621144
Apparently I'm the type of person everyone in the pol threads are always complaining about
>>25621905
This also sounds pretty good

>>25621792
roughly where I stand now

>>25621926
>t. been in cryostasis since 2015
couldve just said that

>>25621923
well, has anyone really tried it?

>>25621936
>There are aspects of Marx that are simply too objectively true to be denied without mental gymnastics, delusion, misunderstanding (deliberate or otherwise), or schizophrenia.
true. a lot of it is owed to guilt by association and literally just most people are retards and havent even read his words lmao. most people operate on the position of "marx = why i cant upskrit in video games anymore!!!!" so a lot of it is truly just wilful ignorance and assumption

>>25621956
north korea, sort of. idk how old you are but this kind of jreg meme shit is bad for your brain. i used to be the same in my teens and early 20s.

>>25621905
Very beautiful prose, my friend. But this
>German technocratic industrial coordination
And the Kissinger apologia are...questionable. And the Soviets are not the only thing to cite for cultural subsidy. Realist, but too trusting of institutions.

i gave up on politics. just get money out of it. as long as billionaires have influence, it's a game of bribery and corruption.

I no longer have a stake in politics. There is nobody advancing a radical enough agenda for me to care about elections. Until somebody runs on a platform of literally beheading everyone currently in power, and wins, and starts enacting his policy, I'm done with voting.

>>25621987
Been having similar thoughts lately

>>25621960
I'm 44. I study political philosophy and history in my spare time and write essays on substack. I think Jreg is a funny guy but I hardly take him seriously. He's just a comedian to me.

>>25621989
We just need a clean reset, and I think the bloodletting will be good catharsis for this country.

Kill or be killed.

>>25621957
Red scare mindset is also a factor. There are people who genuinely believe that Russia is a communist country and Putin wants to bring back the Soviet Union.

It's a double layered issue because for one their minds instantly divert to Soviet Union or Russia when they hear Marxism, instead of the actual political theory of Marx. And secondly, even their understanding of Soviet Union is colored with red scare nonsense, hyperbole, myopic reasoning and leaps of logic, instead of what living in SU was really like.

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Well shit

>>25621165
But did you start with the Greeks?

>>25621144
I took the 60-minute one, and it said I was a national democrat
I took the 200+ one, and it said I was a Labourist
What the hell does this even mean? I don't like immigrants, and I think the Patricians should come to terms with the Plebs before they're sent to the proverbial guillotine, which could easily become a real and permanent guillotine depending on how things go

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>>25622591
picrel

>>25621179
Materialism and Empirial Criticism
State and Rev
What is to be done

>>25621330
I feel like the situation is inverted

>>25622610
Its all larp at the end of the day.

okay so first of all hiiii /lit/

before you guys tell me to go back to tiktok YES i know. i know. i've been lurking here for like three weeks and honestly you guys are kind of mean but also some of you are genuinely so funny and i feel like this is one of the only places online where people actually READ anymore??? i've been getting REALLY into philosophy lately. specifically Hegel, Kant, and Nietzsche. and before you ask no i haven't actually finished any of their books yet but i've watched a LOT of videos about them and i follow this account on instagram that posts philosophy memes with those classical marble statue pictures.

and i think i've come up with something that could genuinely change feminist theory?

HEGELIAN FEMINISM.
so if you think about it, feminism is literally dialectical. because first we had the patriarchy (thesis), then feminism came along (antithesis), and now we're moving towards something NEW (synthesis). like when women got the right to vote, that was a dialectical moment. when gay marriage became legal, dialectical moment. when barbie (2023) came out, arguably also a dialectical moment.

like if you're treating a woman as an object you're literally violating the categorical imperative. and honestly i think that's why hookup culture is so complicated because sometimes you're technically consenting but you're still participating in a system that commodifies feminine subjectivity and that something is like a society where everyone is equal but we also embrace the feminine divine and women's intuition and stuff without being trapped by traditional gender roles. kisses xo

>>25622755
What if I think treating women like objects is okay, what then? I'm not a Hegelian, I mostly abhor him because of his association with leftshits.

some synthesis of deleuze's and adorno's versions of marxism, aka nothing that will ever be relevant in my lifetime

>>25622784
sane rational man
>>25622755
nice larp, got me to rage

>>25622591
>>25622593
I took both and both times it placed me as an eco nationalist. I wasn't sure what that was but apparently it's what the Soviets left off at and what Xi Jinping is. I'm pro-nuclear energy though, so considerably less Soviet and more Chinese. My percentages included numerous African Marxist revolutionaries and South American Marxists including Maduro. I also had Michael Sandel, Robespierre, and Murat. Both times the political axis result was left libertarian.

>normally I answer these memes with intentionally challenging answers to see how they prioritize the security vs freedom portion.

>both times it claimed I had highly unusual economic positions.

>both times it claimed I was most typical on immigration.

I missed my calling as a Socialist leader.

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Who /StrasserGang/ here?

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>>25621137
To be honest, at this point the only political project I support is state-mandated girlfriends. I honestly don't see the use of any other ideology or program.

>>25622755
I almost fell for the bait bros.

>>25622797
>eco nationalist
I was about to call you a homo. But..
>89% eco nationalist.
I apologize.

i hate all nationalists

>>25622844
t. zogged tranny

Global communism

>No borders
>No private ownership of means of production
>Ecological conservation and sustainability paramount.
>International worker solidarity
>Democratic federalism
>Unleashed technological progress for human growth.
>One world government.

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>>25622610
No, because there aren't 20 threads about Hitler in the catalog, you retarded fucking faggot.

>>25622929
>I'm a fucking retard
cool story bro

Took the test, plain old Democratic Socialist, as expected.

>>25622929
whats the plan for building cohesion between different races? just look at how every third post on 4chan is indian hate, how would you build solidarity between indians and americans for example

>>25622958
Thank you for tearing apart the left and ensuring decades of republican rule, you retarded communist nigger.

>>25622844
I don't but nationalism is left wing anyways. empires are superior as always.

>>25622961
You pose an overall good question but you example is trash. Internet memes do not define reality and Indians mingle with Americans just fine. Millions of people live outside these eco chambers.

As for cohesion, I am a materialist so it comes down to deeper economic cooperation and movement. Races, ethnicities and nationalities are just surface level smokescreens for deeper historico-economic truths. With increasing global cooperation these illnesses of the past, when we lived our entire lives in a single village and travelled on ox carts, will wither away.

>>25621137
They all hold a socratic approach on politics.

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>>25621137
this is what I got yesterday. the quiz is alright but like >>25621155 says most of the questions are poorly phrased and basically just "it depends" and at the end it just asks you to identify yourself with some rigid categories to box you in. it's not really good at displaying precision, I did the 60 question one, ill probably do the 200 question one now and post the results for that i guess

>>25622929
>>25623028
I would rather live next to a capitalist of my own race than a nigger who is a "fellow proletarian." Biology is deeper than and will always win out against class. You are the one who believes in dumb social constructs.

>>25623068
Thanks of your opinion ig, didn't ask though. I just don't see how that's relevant besides proving that you are just another ideologue with some form of smokescreen on your eyes. Even your own insistence on race (likely white) solidarity, something the Chinese don't have with the Japanese or the Nigerians with the Somalians....is nothing more than a direct historic result of the colonial past of your country and it's modern socio-economic consequences.

One could say something about self awareness here but 99.999% of people are too retarded to look past their own noses and see things for what they really are.

>>25622969
You're welcome, based capitulator who gutted the left, alienated anyone under 65, and got us into the dual corporatism situation in which we currently reside.

>>25623083
>corporatism
doesn't know what corporatism means award
just use the word oligarchy

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>>25623038
took it again and got this.
overall I think it's kind of shit, the questions are poorly phrased and not really well made

What an absolutely retarded quiz. Too muttmerica coded and the questions are just plain bad.

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Every time i take this test it gives me centrism, so i decided to be a bit feisty, and then it gave me this obscure right winger who was deep into ecology and anti immigration/anti people

You really dont see this type around anymore.

right wing environmentalist

>>25621137
I reject the tribalism of ordering myself into a faction.

>>25622827
No apologies needed, there may not be any end in sight to doing socialism but calling it something else.

>>25623139
This is repackaged NATO for instance.

>>25623139
This could qualify you as esoteric.

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>>25621137
the worst thing you can do is to prevent the average person from being completely bored by politics. in fact, it's inhumane.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HwFFGtGh0FxR

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>>25623160
>May I see your loicense?

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never read LOTR, haven't even watched the movies.
should I?

>>25623130
you can tell from the getgo this shit is for goyim to put themselves into boxes and feel great because they're somehow related to influential people. Probably some mossad data harvesting operation

>>25623247
Hey moldy, you check out as a trad socialist who wants to redistribute property in an equitable manner and hates autocracy.

>>25621137
Apolitical.

I don't give a shit. Politics is the lowest form of intellectual activity!

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>>25621137
I can't say I really have much in the way of a political outlook. I know that governments are always corrupt, that politicians should never be trusted and that nothing ever changes. I don't advocate for anything and I don't protest against anything. It's all illusion

I always think of a scene in Buddha's Little Finger by Victor Pelevin where amidst the Russian civil war as soldiers and tanks are running around frantically to prepare for combat, the main character sees little children playing in the snow and he says that they're the ones living in reality, not us. That's basically how I feel about the whole thing

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>>25621137
Surprisingly accurate.

anarchist bc fuck this world

>>25623252
I'm gonna put your mom into a box and kick her into the Euphrates river.

>>25621137
If you're asking about me personally, socratic non-affiliation.
If you're asking about everyone else but me, socratic non-affiliation.

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>>25622755
>HEGELIAN FEMINISM.
Has already been done.

>>25622797
I looked into it further though and after some thinking, I may be more of a Lee Kuan-Yew style developmental nationalist (tl;dr if the Plebs and Patricians wouldn't come into compromise, I'd be more than happy to have government step in and force a resolution)

nationalists, i hate them all

>>25621137
Politics is bourgeois. Read Volume 1 and become ungovernable.

If you consume fast food, if you drink beer rather than wine or spirits (and outside of the strict context of social gatherings or dinners), if you work as an employee for a wage, if you are paying off a mortgage, if you watch television and have a TikTok or Instagram account, then you should not vote (voting itself should not exist as a concept). You are biological slaves, bred for servitude just like your wretched ancestors. You are goyim. Mere cattle. You have no right to speak or influence governing affairs.

Post-Pol Potism

>>25621137
>DUDE YOUTUBE ALGO RECOMMENDATIONS LMAO

i'm basically a liberal but hate what it has become

>>25623978
But anon, the dialectic of Enlightenment was always heading towards this inevitable end. The cult of reason and utilitarianism, positivism, instrumentality, quantification of man. The Frankfurt School already dissected this with precision. Technofeudalism and transhumanism and all the Thiel/Musk etc TESCREAL fever dreams are the end game of the liberal dialectical framework and promise

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>>25621137
Anarchist.
Bakunin, Graeber.

>>25621517
>>25621330
>plus one single Marxist
There is far more to "leftism" than Marx.
You are a faggot liberal.
Marxism is materialist. "Tranny"-ism is spiritual. "feels" over reals

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>>25623978
I heard Mearsheimer say words to this effect.
Time to adapt, roll with the punch we're about to take.

>>25621137
I don't even know what I am anymore. An accelerationist is probably the best descriptor for my current alignment.
I was very apolitical growing up. I grew up in a conservative area, so I was conservative leaning in a way, but it was something I put almost no thought into. In college, I became an insufferable liberal, like so many others do. I believed everything that the academics and the media told me, because ultimately I trusted their authority. The Snowden controversy then the Trump-era media hypocrisy really shattered my belief in the left, but I was still thinking in terms of left and right, and became a reactionary conservative.
COVID destroyed my belief in the system all together and I became extremely libertarian but I ultimately found the ideology to be a dead-end. From there I progressed through every single extremist ideology from fascism to communism, and when those didn't stick, I got really into /x/ and paranormal conspiracy. The paranormal stuff was the most alluring to me because it promised to get to the core of reality. I still believe the truth is out there and it's crazier than we can even comprehend, and that the paranormal conspiracies are often getting a part of the truth right, but don't know enough to make a coherent picture. It's dangerous not because it's necessarily wrong, but because of how easy it is to get lost in unfalsifiable concepts.
I briefly hopped back on the Trump anti-deep state bandwagon in 2024, but that has proven to be a complete mistake, and showed me despite considering myself 'redpilled' on politics, I am still a gullible idiot.
Now, I still believe there are dark forces at play across our political system, both in the public and private sector, and there may or may not be racial, bloodline, or paranormal elements to it. But I do know that we can't continue with how we are going, we need to abandon our current path before it's too late. And the only way to do that is to shock people through quick acceleration. In that way, Uncle Ted was correct, and possibly the only modern political theorist who got it right.

This is the most blatant attempt at data mining I've ever SEEN.

>>25621137
Pretty much everything. I view Hitler as a hero but am not a national socialist. Maybe an anarchist, maybe monarchist, maybe Islamist, maybe Pan-Africanist
It really depends utterly of situations, so political identity is social signifier that I stand beyond. I’d vote for democrats this week if only to impeach Trump over Iran

>>25621137
im best described as a racial realist bordigist. im intentionally not using 'marxist' because im an objective idealist.

>>25624118
>Marxism is materialist. "Tranny"-ism is spiritual. "feels" over reals
i always see this braindead take. marxism is materialist in the sense that it sees the reified appearance of social life not as immutable fact but as a product of historical processes and therefore as something that could be produced differently. the social category of gender is real in the same way as the social category of the capitalist or the commodity.

>>25621137
centrist

>>25621137
NEOLIBERAL

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I guess I’m a democratic socialist

>>25621137
I don't have any politics, I just wish for a nuclear holocaust to cleanse the planet from disgusting apes

>>25621165
This was a good read, anon. Thanks for sharing.

>>25621137
>Malthusian Environmentalism
>Environmental current inspired by Garrett Hardin that links population pressure to the depletion of common resources. It favours collectively enforced limits on resource use and policies to curb population growth.

I consider myself the guarantor of a certain essential stability, an approach to the state that might be termed neo-Bismarckian. My conviction is not a performance staged for an audience, rather it is a service of deep instinctual feeling and covenant with Christ, forming the very foundation of my obligations. I believe in the necessity of a guiding hand, a paternalistic stewardship that looks after the well-being of the many, without descending into the clumsy, bureaucratic arrogance of the technocrat. The true exercise of power does not lie in domination, but in knowing precisely the proper place for everyone and ensuring that each individual is cared for within the limits of reason and practicality.

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I don't know about any of those modern guys but Charles de Gaulle and High Growth Japan sounds goated...

Modern politics is a frantic attempt to build a fortress against the void. It suffers from a desperate, spiritual deformity where we see the desire to govern a world without accepting that the world is already a ghost. The world we envisioned when these ideologies were created, the world that existed in that context and the possibilities imagined from that context, it no longer exists. It has already been sublated into something entirely distinct. And we have lost the fundamental understanding of tragedy and that loss is inevitable. Every movement now peddles a lie of permanence. The conservatives attempt to embalm a civilization whose pulse stopped centuries ago. The Whig, the Fukuyama liberal and institutionalist bourgeoise attempt to engineer a sterile utopia where every human contradiction is smoothed away by the dull blade of reason. This is why an understanding of decay is indispensable. That which cannot accept its own disappearance has no right to speak of beauty. Decay is not the enemy. We build knowing the ruins are coming, knowing the loss is certain, and we are motivated to build a monument to the present and preserve the moment before it fades. This is the only fidelity possible in a world that offers no guarantees. The politician who does not understand this is either a bureaucrat of preservation or a merchant of apocalypse. Both are fugitives from the finite. What we need is the courage of the craftsman. He neither demands eternity nor welcomes ruin. He simply gives form to the interval. This is the only political dignity left to us. Statecraft must reorient towards constructing something worthy of its brief existence.

conservative by nature labour by experience

Lockian materialist, Rousseaun idealist. Communities should strive to be communities and support themselves. The bigger the government, the worse it is, always... the Constitution is the Hegelian synthesis of Lockian materialism and Rousseaun idealism. Cliché though it may be, I think that native idea is as close as we got to as good as it could be... I guess the one flaw to find is that it was still vulnerable to Jewish tricks... but it took them quite a while to get there, and they needed the mythological token of the Holocaust to really, fully corrupt us.

>>25624173
where do you live, FUCK OFF?

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I guess that makes sense

>>25625579
I bet you were just tickled pink.

The notion that the capacity for political agency should be extended to individuals outside the traditional caste of male property owners belonging to the dominant racial and national demographic strikes me as absurd. It stands as a striking testament to the illusions born of liberal vanity. The very idea of taking into account the interests of chattle such as servants, women, or children, within the sphere of political action would have been inconceivable to generations of rulers over the course of millennia.

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>>25624928
I got something similar. combined with the philosophy of Phenomenology and being a strong anti-utilitarian, I wonder what that would look like in practice?

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>>25624797
You have to be over 18 to post here.

>>25624268
>incoherent pseudo-intellectual blather
Marxist confirmed.

watching neoliberal democrats attempt to sabotage DSA candidates that are poised to defeat GOP fascists + gavin newsom trying to shut down the 5% billionaire tax only proves that marx was always right and reformist collaborators belong in gulag

>>25624797
And what we call those apes? Niggers! Yes, we must cleanse the world of niggers! Nuke Africa until it sinks below the sea!

>>25625772
Yes, we have already touched upon this point. Social democrats constitute the moderate wing of fascism. Stalin was right. Mainstream Democrats serve their donors and Israel before the people, and see socialism as a greater threat than the Trumpian spectacle they can use as a villain to justify their control

>>25625772
gavin newsom belongs in a camp for reasons other than commie larping

Politics reflects the creatures that comprise them. With this in mind there will be predators and prey, opportunists and opportunity. Ideology isn't overly important beyond this, as functionally what these systematic contrivances yearn to obtain (power, breeding privileges, dead enemies) remains exactly the same. The only goal in politics should be to remain afloat amid a rising sea perpetually filled with monsters grasping at the surface to ward off starvation. The ragged, the undesirable and the unnoticed are the only true victors in any politically-dominated environment.

>>25625781
>not pictured: 1933-1945

>>25625772
outside of mega blue areas DSA has no chance, you really think democratic socialism is going to play in the midwest and the deep south?

pfft

At best the DSA winning in the midterms will allow them to take the democratic party hostage and oust hakeem jeffries if he doesnt give into their commands, post mid terms expect there to be a mini dem civil war and slap fight while trump bombs iran

>>25625772
Wealth taxes are inherently unjust. Income and inheritance have already been taxed. Taxing them further is plain robbery.

>>25625802
All taxes are unjust. They exist because they're expedient, not because they are right.

If you want to rank taxes by how unjust they are relative to each other wealth tax is one of the most just ones.

You don't have any wealth anyway so relax about it.

the world's been running so smoothly ever since society became a club for wankers of the transnational international zionist bourgeoisie.

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>>25621144
I don't know any of the dudes below my results so fuck that

In principle I’m an anarchist/full gommunist. I think our entire socioeconomic system is retarded and exploitative and it is imperative that we emancipate ourselves and others from the physical and psychological prisons it creates, including racism/ IQ bigotry. But when it comes to voting I go Dem because they are more sensible and responsible. The GOP just wants to let big corporations openly rape society because it’s alpha/edgy/funny. Not smart.

i am anti state

>>25626471
>>25625772
Yes, GOP are worse, but as the Michigan neolib candidate Stevens endorsing the GOP candidate over the DSA nominee shows, you cannot trust neoliberals either

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I’m ok with this.

I'm still very unhappy with where I'm at. I want to be an anarchist because I believe that humans are extremely flawed and hierarchical systems lead to injustice and are ultimately what will lead to humanity's collapse.

But, what's the other option? I don't want a socialist or communist government because, again, giving people power ultimately corrupts even if it's good for a generation or two. If you go back to tribalism there is still the Big Man. I'm frustrated that humans are unfit to rule each other and frustrated that there isn't a real alternative. Even if you're an anarchoprimitivist I don't see how you can say that power structures aren't inherit to our biology, or like every animal for that matter.

>>25627017
We are Charlie Kirk

>>25627021
You are having trouble deciding what you are because half of the time, to you, "what you are" is a practical choice about what works and half the time it's an idealism about which political system matches the way things should be. This isn't necessarily a problem, but it's the source of you not knowing where you are. It's ok to rest on a more complicated statement about "where you're at" such as "I believe most strongly in Gudetamaism, but I think anything beyond Doremonism can't really be implemented, so practically speaking I'm a Doreamonist."

This is stupider to do for philosophy about metaphysics or whatever, but if you're just talking about political philosophy it's fine for practicality to be a major or even overwhelming factor.

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I have realised deep down I am just a racist liberal

>>25621137
I am Paleocon/ supporter of guys like Tom Massie. I almost only consume Marxist news as 2020s politics goes though. Guys like Cockshott (who said Gordon Brown was better than Mao and Deng; supports Putin and United party Russia) since Marxists of thst type (usually branded as “revisionist”) are closer to us Paleocons anyways.

>>25621165
you got brainwashed by the GOP propaganda hard. Happened to me too. As for the liberals, everything we have been told about them is a lie. Go walk into your local DNC meeting and see for yourself. I just did it. Was all white people talking about white people things. The DNC is basically the party you thought the GOP was before you realized it was all a con. How you fell for Trump I have no idea. But 99% of the nation fell for the Iraq War after 9/11 and I didn't buy into it, that's when I realized the GOP is all a lie. DNC? You've already been brainwashed into thinking they are something they aren't, go check them out in person and see with your own eyes

>>25621137
I just took one of those stupid tests and it said I was an Eco-Fascist.

>>25621179
>>25622599
don't start with "what is to be done" it is basically an answer to his political critics of that time so he is talking about shit you need a ton of context for, which makes it very annoying to read, instead start with the other two which will help your broader understanding about the subject which helps with WITBD

>>25621137
>Socialism is coming back after centuries of neo liberalism and red panic propaganda
big things are happening

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>>25621137
I only consume visual novels btw

>>25625810
>All taxes are unjust.
Do you drive on roads? Have your rubbish collected? Benefit from law and order? Shouldn't you pay for all this?
>You don't have any wealth anyway so relax about it.
LOL, keep projecting sonny.

>>25621905
bbooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrriiiiiiiiiinnggggg!!!

>>25629924
i'm trans btw

>>25621905
sounds like basically the eu except for the 1815-1945 civilizational values part. so the eu with muh tradition larping

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Well I started with the Greeks I guess. I'm preferring to ignore the youtuber guy.
I got Christian Democracy in the other 12Axes.

In general I prefer Communitarianism but I'm also an elitist and nationalist.

I am an outright Reactionary and extremely right-wing Catholic. Since 2015 I have been praying for "either the conversion or the destruction of the United States" in my daily Rosary.

I despise democracy and I believe an aristocratic republic, in the model of Venice or pre-Marius Rome, is the best system of government, and the second-best is a feudal-style monarchy, not an absolute monarchy but one in which the King must balance the power of both the aristocracy and the Church. I hate the idea of the separation of Church and State and believe the Church must always have a say in the State's affairs.

My long-term goal since 2016 or so has been the total transformation of the United States as we have known it, the United States as it has existed for 250 years. I have identified the United States as the enemy of the Catholic conception of the world and the main obstacle to a renewed Christendom. So my goal is to kill the United States, one way or another.

My main weapons are prayer, fasting, and rhetoric. I pray for geopolitical events to happen in a certain way, and sometimes, God Himself answers those prayers by giving me what I want. Sometimes He even gives me what I didn't even know I wanted. For example, I wanted Trump to win that election in 2020, but looking back, I now realize that Trump losing, and specificially losing in the way he did (especially with January 6th) was better for my overall project than any victory of his might have been. Over and over, America takes terrible damage, and this is what I want.

My long-term plan for the United States is either monarchy or balkanization. Either Trump, or someone after Trump, shatters the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and makes themselves King of America, or the USA so thoroughly breaks that it breaks up into multiple successor states across North America. Either outcome would please me. There is more than one way to skin a cat, there is more than one way to deal with the Problem of America.

Remember to pray the Rosary every day, Anons. Go to Mass on Sundays, and go to Confession when you know you are in a state of mortal sin. Also, give charity to the poor and the homeless.

I'm on the gettingmydicksucked party I don't know about you

>>25630141
honestly democracy is pretty retarded. Obviously mass opinion isn't going to be consistent or well-planned

>>25630116
That wouldn’t be so bad. The worst aspect of the EU lies in its adherence to globalist values and the Americanized cosmopolitan project aimed at liquidating all distinctiveness. The EU in its current form is a project of orchestrated decline, designed precisely to atrophy the sovereign national will and replace the living form of the State and the implicit contract between the State and its Nation with a bureaucratic specter of continental administration.

>>25630157
To learn more about this concept of what Europe could be if it were reimagined, take a look at Mosley's vision "Europe a Nation" or Yockey's proposals of "Pan-European nationalism" for a potential organizational method. In the age of multipolarity, the European Union may be a necessary evil in some form, but it must remain, truly European, that is to say, rooted in the heart of the European peoples and their various ethnos rather than resting upon an artificial, constructive administrative identity.

>>25630157
>>25630163
empire never works. nobody is ever going to conquer the whole continent. shitler couldnt. napoleon couldnt. ursula wont. putler wont.

>>25630176
>empires never work

A patently absurd assertion. Our civilization was forged within an empire. Rome is our natural state. Everything since has been in its shadow.

>>25630141
>the second-best is a feudal-style monarchy
I guess constant internecine war is your ideal state of affairs.

>>25630180
Read Gibbon. Rome was a clusterfuck after Caesar.

>>25630180
rome was great in its time but the world has changed too much and we are stronger as nation states. you fucking krauts and frogs and anglos and italians never stop trying to take over the rest of us, let us have independent states damn it

>>25630146
Have to admit I'm more on the Mouth Assisted Handjob side of the aisle because I'm the end it's a good thing if policy is easily implemented.

>>25630190
Sorry, Czechoslovakia is collateral when we're building civilization

>>25630196
im not czech or slovak. i am....an unemployed macedonian.

>>25630207
What do you guys even produce beside macadonian nuts?

>>25630207
In that case go yell at the Greeks

>>25630207
Very cool! My great-great-great grandfather was in the IMRO and got killed fighting the Ottomans before the Ilinden Uprising. Keep up the fight!

>>25630180
The Republic was much MUCH more kino than the Empire and nothing will convince me otherwise, not even the Restitvtor Orbis himself

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I'm a milquetoast liberal, but my first policy would be immediately executing every single person ITT without trial

>>25621137
Left wing but anti immigrant and western chauvinist.

You cannot be pro worker and pro brown masses

straight white anti-white sigma chad

>>25630207
A Macedonian opposed to empire huh

>>25630663
>anti-white
why though. have you seen the other guys?

Politics are dead. We're all going to fucking die. Jews will kill us using AI. There are no rules left in this game, no refs, and no exit ramps. It's over. Done. Finito. We're already slaves. We're all on a speeding bus over the cliff at eighty miles an hour.

>>25630679
Flipped a coin to decide

>>25630702
based coinomancer
for me it's grabbing letters at random from a bucket

>>25630689
ai doomers are so gay

>>25621137
I'm a racist social liberal.
>anti-immigration
>progressive taxation
>expanded welfare state
>pro-nuclear, geothermal and hydro
>ban single-use plastics
>UBI (if it's a rich country like Norway as opposed to Poland or something)
>secularism (except Japan, Bhutan and Mongolia which should have State Shinto, Buddhism and Tengrism respectfully)
>republicanism (except Japan and Bhutan again)
>state investment in automation to replace immigrants
>pro-EU, anti-NATO
>tax benefits and subsidies for large families of second-gen citizens (except in countries with large gypsy pops)

>>25631429
Also, Israel should be annihilated and every country in the world should adopt the First Amendment of the US Constitution verbatim.

>>25631432
>'I'm at 99% approval rating in Israel, can you believe it?' Trump told Fox & Friends in a phone interview on US Election Day. 'In fact, if people ever got tired of me in the US, I'll move to Israel and become prime minister

>>25621921
You are a deeply unserious person. Also, I chuckled a little

>>25631728
>its real

oh my god how do people still defend this

>>25631741
In case you hadn't noticed, a large part of the right has become disillusioned with this carnival barker.

I'm thoroughly apolitical and think you're all fucking retarded cattle.

>>25631811
no u arent

>>25631832
Yup. Am.

>>25631811
>>25631842
Being "apolitical" is a vote, of sorts, for the status quo. Which, as you can see, is a political stance.
Sorry, but you do. How's it working out for you?

>>25632007
Sorry about your retardation, mister "everything is political" I sure do wish they would find a cure.

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>>25632011
>your retarded reality
Wasn't my fault.
You, and I, hate politics because it's full of lying extortionist sociopaths.
The best cure that I have read up on is plurality.

I'm a romanticist. I don't have actual political views

Must be a lot of jeets and towelheads here with how much you guys hate israel

I used to be far-right/white nationalist simply because I accepted as a scientific probability the hypothesis that racial disparities could be explained by genetic factors. I wasn't sure of this, but I thought it was likely, and felt the suppression of this view and the policies enacted with the contrary assumption were damaging to society.

However, while I haven't given up my belief, observing the rise of the fascist right has turned me into a liberal. The right is essentially a corrupt cadre of machiavellian hooligans appealing to the basest instincts of the populist mob. They have no morals, no principles, and even their racism, which initially drew me to them, is not rooted in concern for the maintenance of society but rather in their ever present desire for sadistic domination and power posturing.

For me the absolute tipping point when I left the right was its support of Russia's unjust war against Ukraine, and now that they've attained power again by electing the orange buffoon, who makes daily headlines for his outrageous stupidity and corruption, I feel more and more justified in my decision every day.

>>25631555
>Futurism
>Oda Nobunaga
>Nero
>Kim Il-Sung
One of us doesn't know what Futurism means and I'm not sure who

>>25632007
This is as retarded as the "atheism is a religion" stance.

>>25621137
my only organising principle at this point is that low-IQ right wingers should be steered away from political engagement. they should vote based on whether they feel better or worse off than before, but not pay close attention. the creation of a stupid+engaged faction across the first world has been a catastrophe.

>>25632249
No, real atheism is absence of a faith. Some self described atheists will have faith in the pseudo-faiths out there, especially capitalism or scientism, but *real atheism* is no-faiths, just-knowing.

But the poltical stance of letting the political zeitgeist have its way? That IS in and of itself a political stance. There is no getting around it. Sorry. Not telling you to get involved or anything, just the way it is mang

>>25632291
>That IS in and of itself a political stance. There is no getting around it. Sorry.
Because you say so? Bollocks.

>>25621423
Quiet you

>>25632249
Its called scientism and naturalism, the metaphysical bedrock of atheism, which is a defacto religious position. Please keep up.

>>25632416
>I choose not to be affected by the weather
>I am weather neutral
>Nothing you say will affect my temperature.
Good lord, how old are you?

>>25632446
Good lord, how retarded are you?
>I choose not to vote because politicians are crooks and liars, and my influence is negligible anyway

>>25632444
>the metaphysical bedrock of atheism
Literal oxymoron. Waste of trips.

Left leaning minus the lgbtq4ubbq crap.

Simple as.

you need two wings to fly

>>25632543
Actually let me add one thing and say that my problem with the lbgt stuff isn't so much them being gay etc, it's the forced celebration of it, putting it in school, making it seems like transrights are some kind of relevant political demographic and not like five pornsick retards in a trenchcoat on twitter.

Basically be gay all you want, but don't ask us to celebrate it. Legalize it, but don't make spreading gay vibes part of the political platform.

Also the left needs to wise up about Muslims and jews.

Maybe i should have just said "left leaning if leftists had common sense".

>>25632556
Nobody cares, reddit-spacer.

>>25632556
What bothers me about the LGBT pride stuff is the underlying philosophy/mindset behind it. It just seems like the endgame of chasing base desires and what feels good. Society is a continual act of fighting our base instincts for a higher good (or at least long-term interests if you don't believe in morality). For example, if men always just listened to their urges, they would be murdering, raping and pillaging non-stop. A healthy society finds a balance where people aren't slaves to their 'animal' self, but they don't ignore it either. It seems like homosexual acceptance/pride is a type of glorification of this self-identification with one's base desires that is so popular in modern times, rather than trying to do what is right or best. So it's not bad to have homosexual urges, and maybe it's not even so bad to act upon them to some degree, but the outright celebration of the act and living that way as a permanent lifestyle just doesn't sit right with me. I don't know if I articulated that well, I don't actually read books, I just browse /lit/ all day.

>>25632556
So then not left leaning at all, then.

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black pilled Baudrillian
all political posturing since 1945 is a purely performative spectacle and no significant change (among nuclear powers)is possible

>>25632454
Anon. I choose not to vote too. It isn't democracy.

(Those who refuse voting have the right to complain about politics, those who vote ought to keep quiet)

>>25632175
>even their racism, which initially drew me to them, is not rooted in concern for the maintenance of society but rather in their ever present desire for sadistic domination and power posturing.

Racism has always been about this though.