Comment on her body of work without resorting to ad hominem attacks.
>>25621285I’m not judgemental, sometimes I like big girls, even huge, nay colossal, ones.
FAT JEW
She was one of the most interesting and most correct of the most interesting and correct cohort of feminists: 1970s radfems. Everything after them is watered down crap
>>25621285What's her favourite book, Finnegan's Bake Off?
>>25621303Infinite feast
>her "body" of work>The "body" in question:
i cant dwork it to this image
>>25621315
>>25621285No. She was a fat, disgusting, seething, psychotic feminazi cunt.
>Didn't die of a heart attack Color me shocked.
>>25621293Fuck off, KIKE
>>25621285>without resorting to ad hominem attacks.>>25621287technically not an ad hominem ATTACK, I guess>>25621289failed >>25621303failed>>25621309failed>>25621315failed>>25621325failed>Ironisation is so feckin funny XD
>>25621285>plap meatOut of all the rad fems who i am a fan of none if someone told me they were convinced to be one based off her work i would understand it
>>25621335You're trying to sincerely discuss hardcore feminist philosophy on 4CHAN. YOU are the fucking RETARD here.
>>25621339seethe harderthis is /lit/
>>25621339“Hardcore” is a word strongly associated with (male-oriented) pornography. Thin ice. Tread lightly.
>>25621335Go back. This website isn't for the likes of (You)
>>25621337What?Checked
>>25621347You WOULD have to tread lightly on thin ice, ya fat bitch.
i agree with her that being a cishet should be banned
>>25621348make me
>>25621345Misogynist board. Misogynistwebsite.
>>25621351My (considerable) weight is none of your concern.
>>25621285We need to bring back witch burning, except it's bitch burning.And we burn these bitches in front of a live studio audience.
>>25621356Misogyny is the topic of conversation.
>>25621285Never readMight be good idk
>>25621361MisogynDESE NUTZ, BITCH
>>25621363>reddit spacing for greater separation, larger quantity of space, between the lines.Excellent.
>>25621285In fact, if I had to guess, I'd assume she makes so good points. Probably right about a lot.
>>25621356Anonymous men on the internet desiring to rape and possess women kinda proves her point, anon.
>>25621370t. Biggie Cheese
>>25621367GAY
>>25621366funny guy
>>25621370Nah, not really. Because these are all the ineffectual, weak men who would never willingly lay a hand on a woman IRL who are always saying shit like that.
>>25621372>ad hominem Can you turn this into an argument?
>>25621367Get pranked faggot!!!!!!!!!!!
She has admitted that her work is based on representations from literature and was never based on actual reality.
>>25621285Is that Andre The Giant?
>>25621376Ad hominem? More like add hummus
>>25621367I'm going to read everything she wrote now. (or am I ... hehehehehehe)
>>25621376In her case it would be Ad HominYUM actually
>>25621375>who would never willingly lay a hand on a woman IRLDoubt.Granted, availability may be low, but do you really believe that?>>25621379Literature is more real than reality. It's Hyperreal.
>>25621382Why dont u try eating eveeyrhing she wrote.
>>25621387Anon, I don't honestly believe that even 85% of 4channers are physically fit enough to pull off a rape in any sense whatsoever.
>>25621380
I HEREBY RENOUNCE ANY AND ALL OF MY UNTOWARD REMARKS TOWARD DWORKIN AND ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED
Andre'a the GiCUNT
>>25621393I've got some issues with this Menschenbild.
>>25621303Fried and PrejudicedHeart of DiabetesMoby ThickCrime of NourishmentGobbler’s TravelsCake Expectations
Very mature, /lit/
>>25621285her body of work come less from any kind of experience of womanhood and more from her zionist axioms that were nailed in to her at an early age aplayed to the sexes. it's kinda sad when you notice it.
>>256212851/2I have lots of great stuff in the non-fiction read thread. I'm reading the cultural history of the penis by David Friedman. Yes - I'm gay.And it just so happens - today I read about Andrea Dworkin who is referenced in the book. Very spooky.Now granted I haven't read much of her work. But what bothers me to my core is that to put it frankly, she's a penis-hater. Considering how beautiful the penis is, I find this shocking. I get that straight men don't want dick BUT generally they don't hate their own. So consider this statement by here.
>>25621426>zionist axiomsEven if that would be true how the fuck does this relate to her take on rape for example?
>>256214272/2One of you straight bros owes me a dick pick dropping your 7 inches on a stack of her books for giving you all this good info on this penis hating bitch.This is my WTF moment.
>>25621434Ok I guess this is 3/2 lolHow did this bitch get so fucked up?
>>25621427>picrelbased and trvth nvked
>>25621427>Yes - I'm gay.Hows that working out for you?Might consider joining the team. I don't think I can handle women much longer desu.
>>25621414A Journey to the FridgeBlack Cock HoundThe 120 Days of SmorgasAncient FeastingsNo Master, Just Margarita The Song of ChewliRoadside Picnic The Book of Five FeastsFlatfootfallAll Quiet on the Western Lunch Counter
>>25621434Where's the mistake?
>>25621438Jesus Christ some men will fuck literally anything
She looks like Candlemass's old lead singer in that photo.
>>25621427>Violence is male
>>25621434Penis erodes itself too with its handiwork.
>>25621459YOU ARE BEWIIITTCHED!!
>>25621459LMAO
>>25621463hot
There's a disturbing lack of fat jokes ITT
>>25621285No issue with that, I bet she was extremely hairy too. Pretty much my perfect woman (apart from the insanity).
>>25621475Sits AROUND the house
>>25621486There really is someone for everyone. (You were the last piece of the puzzle.)
>>25621447I was mad at God, but I'm reconditioned myself to perceive it as a gift. Now my sex life probably isn't much different than most of you all (i.e non existent). Most gays are vapid or career/pecuniary focused. I'm just not into that shit...I'd rather read and discuss books. I do feel a lot of brotherly love for all the straight males - and no doubt you all have it pretty bad trying to find a girl in this world>>25621450When I was a little longer I actually thought girls liked dick. But then I discussed with a female friend how much I liked sucking dick and she said she hated it. My first thought (b/c my brain is sometimes like an unfiltered 15 year old) was she was a lesbian. And then I realized that no most girls don't really like men not in any kind of carnal way. So then I started to really see how women's sexual desire for men was in a lot of cases not intrinsic but rather a tool to get something else. It's all foreign to me because I genuinely like men and I guess I was naive thinking women liked men to.To put it bluntly a woman is supposed to enjoy getting fucked. If she doesn't then maybe she should question her sexual orientation not bitch about it. This woman was literally fucked 100s of men and is now complaining about her body's integrity???? Talk about ungrateful.
>>25621285Her body of work literally consists of ad hominem attacks.
>>25621432it isnt a 1 to 1 but you don't need to be a genius to see how a culture based on a persecution complex and simultaneously a deep seeded antagonism before ther neighboring nations that, in ther eyes, all scheme to obliterate them influenced her world view, she was more than familiar with zionism as a sentiment way before she discovered what a feminims even was. she also later in life comapred womens liberation to what Israel is to the jews so thats kinda a dead give away.
>>25621335>implying anyone should take this retarded thread seriouslyAlso, learn to capitalise, you homosexual.
>>25621525Woman Is the Nigger of the World
>>25621370rape is a natural thing and should legalized.
>>25621375I choked an ex girlfriend out once and punched my sister in the face.
>>25621661I don't believe you, timmycel.
>>25621315How does one end up looking like a trucker and the prostitute he just killed at the same time?
>>25621663well it happened. do you want me to take pictures next time, you ignorant ape?
>>25621459>>25621467I just washed my Candlemass shirt the other day. I wear it too much though. I have missing Blue Oyster Cult and Morbid Angel shirts I need to look for.
>>25621315baboon if human
Wasn’t she a pedophile?
>>25621660qed
>>25621285She was right about heterosexual intercourse being essentially RAPE. Men of the past could easily get laid because of its lack of safety and stability and cultural trends promoting patriarchy and women whoring themselves out for men. Now that's gone women can move to their chadsexual/autosexual/ bisexual/ homosexual self. They never really wanted you nor any of your terribly average friend. Ever since their sexual awakening they wanted either Chad, their female friend, female clone of themselves or to see two faggots going down on each other
>Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men's contempt for women.Disprove it.You can't.
>>25621824I can't. Sex is filthy, disgusting and should be banned by law. Except homosexual one but that's because faggots are dirty and lesbians are wonderful anyway. You have won
>>25621285The progenitor of all south asian feminists who are one door away from being raped by Uncle Basheer.
>>25621285Feminism and leftism in general is extremely gay but she's right in that sex is fundamentally rapey and coercive. The only sex which is consensual is the hypergamous one where women pick the top ~20% of men. But hypergamous sex is also immoral because it's inegalitarian in another way (denying most men intimacy).
>>25621387>Literature is more real than reality.Now that's a great description of her beliefs.
>>25621870>>25621816It really be like this
>>25621375Put less judgmentally, rape threats on the internet are never actually serious
>>25621285You cannot imagine my displeasure at discovering that this kike bitch died in her sleep instead of how she deserved to die--screaming for her mother while being skinned alive by feral blacks.
Strip away the content and her force is pure, something to behold.
>>25622016how do you even know? and why does social media censor them if they're not genuine?
>>25621816my question is, why put a value judgement on rape? why can't we see the positive aspects of it?
>>25621506> And then I realized that no most girls don't really like men not in any kind of carnal wayI thought so too, until one of my exes who absolutely loved sucking dick, she loved sex overall, asked me often for anal(which I was not really into), she often sucked me off by her initiative, kissed my feet(???) and other crazy things, she was really crazyCoincidentally she was also a bit of a unit, nowhere near as fat as Andrea over here, but she did cultivate some mass - enough at least that when many years after that relationship the plapjak memes caught on plenty of my bros started sending them to me and asking about her, giving me thousand yard stare flashbacks in the process(her room decor was almost identical with the memes, sans the porn lighting)
>>25621734No it didn't.
>>2562144820000 calories over daily limit
>>25622275Lmfao
>>25621664also, more like Andrea PORKin hehe.
>>25621448Lard TimesOh wait, that's not kosher...
bros... Aged 20...
>>25621459>>25621467YOU ARE SANDWICHED!!!
>>25621496I really wish I could find someone like that IRL but they tend to be lesbian or just insane. In modern times they even go "ftm" and cut off their humongous boobs. Maybe even Dworkin would have done that if it was popular back then.
>>25621448>No Master, Just Margarita
>>25621285Her entire ideology is built on a false premise.When anaximander postulated that the previous assumption that the elements were mythical cosmic elements was incorrect, it was not an ad hominem attack on previous greek philosophers. I use this example so OP doesn't claim it is.Women need structured rape to undermine their tendency to seek invaders during ovulation, hard coded into them because of two reasons1. Childless widows found a new mate or went extinct2. women who slept with invaders after watching their parents, siblings, husband and his children get slaughtered reproduced.The only ad hominem I will use is against the human race; we are stinky, shit flinging entropy machines that only exist because solar radiation can't cook everything into sand (proof: if the atmosphere and magnetosphere disappeared, all life would perish except deep see life because, you guessed it, the large layer of water stops the radiation)This is similar to how men need laws prohibiting violence not because it stops all violence but because it deters a free for all where men try to monopolize reproduction by unrestrained violence. Which of course, ends with no one to do any work.
>>25622651I feel if the state whithered away for a bit society could reorganize itself
>>25622651Women just seem like genetic defects
>>25622776There is no defect. Everything is working as intended. Just not as we want.
>>25621285She engages in too many conjectures and assumptions for me to take her seriously. Her "fixes" also doesn't fix anything. I was thoroughly disappointed by her.
>>25623074well damn I guess we gotta beat it out of them like we used to.
>Women need structured rape to undermine their tendency to seek invaders during ovulationwhy are they like this?
>>25621285I feel sad for her, she's kind of like Branden Fraser in that she got fat after being rapedBranden Fraser just comes off as simple to like because he failed to write an anti-gay manifesto after
>>25621285She reminds me of myself We are both fat and hate paedophiles
>>25621285Her suggesting political lesbianism as a possible way for further feminist action in the end of right wing women was ridiculous in the seventies and a complete joke now.Beyond that, I think that genre of feminist thinker was inevitably bound to be dissapointed because the general population their fantasies of revolutionary chileasm relied on for vitality were only interested in their own self advancement and not the psychotic delusions of assorted rape victims. Plus I disagree with that whole current's characterization of women.
>>25623365It was naïve at best.Anyway, Radical Feminists were in a uniquely impossible position because they were on the one side faced with a proletariat thoroughly disinterested (as all proletariats are) in the finer and more radical elements of the revolutionary program and on the other they are incapable of establishing a revolutionary dictatorship, as those require brute force and they by definition alienate the moiety of humanity most inclined to it.
>>25621285Fat (if highly based) Jew (and I repeat, highly based) bitch
>>25623385I will be for any fat hairy radfem as long as I can eat her hairy pussy and asshole and lick her hairy pits and legs and suck her hairy nipples and she lets me stick it into something or cum on her fuzzy mustache.
Oi Hiler!Maybd I Zuck ya dickand you won't gas my ass*flab* *flab* *flab*
>>25621315Unironic peak BVILT4BBC build.
>>25623365>political lesbianism as a possible way for further feminist action>ridiculous in the seventies>complete joke now.Care to elaborate why?
>>25623236aww :3
>>25622132fat chicks don't countthey are just compensating for being fat in order to acquire and keep a man who'd be objectively above her league otherwise
>>25621285
>>25621303>>25621414>>25621448The Catcher of the RyeWar and PizzaThe Lord of the Ring DonutsDon QuicheThe Frying of Pot 49Blood MeringueThe Count of Monte CriscoKilogram 451Big WomenI Have No Mouth and I Must Eat
>>25623704>I Have No Mouth and I Must Eatonly good one
It blows my mind how much this Jewish lady triggers this board so spectacularly
>>25623385>incapable of establishing a revolutionary dictatorship, as those require brute force and they by definition alienate the moiety of humanity most inclined to ityet we live under brutal feminism
>>25621285obligatory
>>25623669Women make a poor substitute for men if you are not actually a lesbian; the premise of political lesbianism was false. Retreating into an unfulfilling bubble achieves nothing at all and leaves you with nothing in the end.>ridiculous in the seventiesOh fuck right wing women was published in 1983. Sorry for that.It was basically asking people, who by her own account became right-wing because of the unfulfilling state of liberated heterosexual relationships to instead choose the life of a leper or a spinster.>complete joke now.A supermajority of women are and have always been throughly uninterested in female separatism. Nothing important came from the original wave of it. And right now presuming that you can change your sexuality by choice is basically a form of heresy. This is because the queers won their own battle (and coincidentally left all their own revolutionaries in the dust, too).>>25624117Not for Dworkin. In her terms the Patriarchy is as fine as it always has been. Plus, what we live under is not a dictatorship. The bulk of the population acquiesed and acquieses to it, they enforce it, after all.
>>25621315Her feet can't even support her while sitting down.
>>25621816>>25622125Yeah. If heterosexual intercourse is always rape, doesn't that make rape... a good thing?
>>25624258the point is to redefine rape as sex + the man believing he has a right to sex, so that only married sex is rape
>>25624258only lesbian sex isn't rape well gay male also is rape but that between pathetic subhumans with no woman god involved so they are allowed
>>25621285the only right thing she said was when she told allen ginsberg that he should be shot
>>25624164Change the woman at the computer to a boy and this would be accurate Truth is most of you just don't want an ugly person pointing out your ugly thoughts
>>25624412>r/womenarenotintomen in the wildNice, that subreddit is hilariousThe truth is that sex is just not as pleasurable to women as it is to men. It's not a defect or women being haters, its evolutionary because in the wild high sex drive in women carries a risk of dying in childbirth
>>25621664i love dworkin threads
>>25621664So you admit men are violent to women in a sex context?Pick related strikes again >>25624164>>25624164
>>25624683>The truth is that sex is just not as pleasurable to women as it is to men. It's not a defect or women being haters, its evolutionary because in the wild high sex drive in women carries a risk of dying in childbirth
>>25624756Hate to be that guy but, maybe you just don't know how to please a woman?
>>25624164Why couldn't you use a relevant male philosopher instead of some French fag no one cares about?
>>25624763what can I do with their hatred
>>25624257>>25621315Actually they're pointed straight down, it's just that her center of mass is bending the light around her feet to make them look curved.
>>25624791Tl;dr meet them in person. I dunno what to tell you senpai. I dunno what you look like, how old you are, what part of the country you live in or even what country... But If you don't smell bad and aren't disfigured, if you aren't obese, if you can use a little bit of language, you can find a girl. Will she look like Jennifer Connelly in the 90s, or whatever your fantasy is? Prolly not, but you don't need all that anyways. "All us gon' get a lil' bit, not a lot but a lil' bit..." the most important thing to remember is the internet is not a real place. Your internet chart does not reflect reality, and was delivered to you by an algorithm designed to isolate you from reality, in order to sell you goygear and goyslop and goypills... to that end, treat a woman's appearances of being overly involved in social media as a red flag. If it seems she's on some reel/shorts sight several times a day... ehh, you can try and fuck her, but your long term outcome will more likely than not be negative. She's addicted to it. A nicotine addict doesn't necessarily smoke ALL day, but you wouldn't say a person that smokes two or three times a day WASN't addicted to nicotine, would you? Think of it that way.And if you ARE any of those things I said, a fat stinky retard, well.. you gotta start with you playa. Das jus' how it goes, I don' love dhede hos, I'm out da do'
Feminism, incelism, identity politics, all of it - ressentiment. Throw it in the fucking trash. Every day I come on 4chan and see the same shit. "How do I get a girlfriend?" "Why don't women like me?" "Is it over if I'm 5'9?" Listen dude. You are asking the WRONG QUESTIONS. Find your own meaning. For me, that meaning is financial independence, autonomy, freedom, energy, synergy, IMPACT. Capital letters. Capital production. Marx? He analyzes capital. Me? I make capital. And when you approach a woman, STOP APOLOGIZING FOR EXISTING. It's all about projecting capital to the woman. The woman is part of your social capital. Look a woman in the eyes. Tell her your occupation and salary, multiplied by 3. If you make $45,000 a year working in IT, congratulations, you're now a senior technology consultant pulling $135K. Doesn't matter the truth. Women respond to leverage. If you can afford the lifestyle, you can fake it. I once walked into a rooftop bar in Miami wearing a $900 Italian linen shirt (custom, you wouldn't know the designer) and told a woman I managed a private equity portfolio. At the time I was technically between jobs. Unemployed. But mentally? I was already managing eight figures. Didn't matter. I looked the part. It's all about vibes. She gave me her number. I fucked. That's the difference between you and me. I'm thinking about what I can CONVINCE THE MARKET I'M WORTH. Because in the post-Baudrillard world, we know it's fake, we know it's simulation, we know meaning and God are dead and capital has raped meaning and culture and the market is a game of signs. That's why I will always buy the most expensive shit. I am signaling that I understand taste. She says no. So what? Does that deflate your fucking ENERGY? Absolutely fucking not.
>>25624435>when she told allen ginsberg that he should be shotBased, lmao.Got any source on that?
>>25621285>Comment on her bodyDisgusting and ugly>of workYeah, that too
>>25624756Kek, I haven't seen this ancient meme in a whileBut it only really proves what I said, sex with a man is for resources and money most of the time, women are not attracted to men
>>25624791Young women report more negative opinions but young men statistically commit more violence against the opposite gender. They project their urge to rape, hurt and kill on the person they rape, hurt and kill like so>>25624763 and don't think of it as hatredAs an ex-cop I am very self-hating and black-pilled on the male agenda
>>25625373>As an ex-cop I am very self-hating and black-pilled on the male agendaHow do you do, my fellow male ex-cops ?
>>25625352literally all it needs to stop the gender wars if for women and liberals to accept this fact but no they will still try to pretend it's about outdated Victorian ideas of romantic love
>>25621303Dalloway To the Denny's
>>25621315Those overalls belong in the Smithsonian. They are an engineering marvel.
I'm not familiar with her work beyond her argument that women in the work place is bad because women are trading only having to please one man (husband) to having to please several men.
>>25625373No one here will ever believe you're a "male ex-cop". Especially not an American cop, they can't read. Everyone here knows you're a college freshman that's mad he can't get a date. If you've never put your hand on a woman's throat while you were fucking her, balled her hair up in your fist while you were biting her neck, smacked her on her ass so hard she had a pink welt for the rest of the day, you ain't never done any kinda fuckin' but what the 'virgin' gets out of pity... and probably no fuckin' at all.
>>25625394Pornsickness and violence towards women fuel radical feminism so I don't think gender wars will stop in till right-wingers actually acknowledge there is a problem But feminists need to acknowledge that women don't really have a sexuality the way men do. They do it for cash and maybe babies
>>25625546Women do have sexuality/desire. They are human just like anyone else. Do men have a stronger sex drive? Sure. I think we are moving to what is probably a fifth wave feminism to be anti-porn. As far as opinions of porn it kind of went like thisFirst Wave: Non-Issue/Against on principleSecond Wave: Against but laws should be changed that punish distributors/pimps while protecting sex workersThird Wave: Pro-sex worker, but laws should be changed to protect them.Fourth Wave: Everybody should be a sex worker.
>>25625619>Women do have sexuality/desire. They are human just like anyone else. Why must people without sexuality/desire be non-human. Jesus mentions people who seem to have no sexual desire in the Bible, as does Saint Paul, and neither depicts it as an animalistic or robotic thing. Asexuals are also mentioned in Victorian literature, and they are considered useful to society because they raise adopted children without making children of their own > I think we are moving to what is probably a fifth wave feminism to be anti-porn.Mainstream feminism was taken over by degenerate elites like Diddy and Epstein; if it was anti-porn rape victims like Dworkin I would find them more sympathetic even if they were kooky otherwise
>>25625373Selection bias.And if abortion is murder then your statistic flips.
>>25621339I think if 4chan could read more than the first few Wikipedia sentences on her they’d realize they actually align with her a lot it’s just that the word feminist is ruined in the modern day
>>25625373>young men statistically commit more violence against the opposite genderAnd against the same gender.Consider your theory BTFO.
>>25625373>young men statistically commit more violence against the opposite genderThey dont. They are statistically more likely to be charged for it, but the vast majority of violence is domestic and when you split domestic violence to self-reporting rather than successful charges the majority of both women and men are harmed by women.This might have been true at one point in a world where the average child has a father, but in the modern world the vast, overwhelming majority of violence is done by the maternal figure inside the household, and is something that is rarely given legal consequence.
>>25625788There is also the fact that women specialise in causing emotional and psychological harm, rather than physical harm. This is not considered a crime, so women get away with it. And yet psychological damage endures long after physical bruises have faded away.Women can be vicious cunts, and are no better than men in this respect.
>>25621293Dworkin was the 80's and her primary focus was on sex and male power. The other names for that include MacKinnon, Frye, Jeffreys for uncompromising, "badass" critique of modern "feminism lite" and corporate empowerment culture you have Jessa Crispin
>>25625430That other Ginsburg - RGB - in the 1970s said MacKinnon had "bad karma".Oddly Dworkin herself would say in 2000 that bad karma (or pheromones) led her to get raped in a hotel room.
>>25627920MacKinnon was right about porn, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg was wrong
>>25621816>She was right about heterosexual intercourse being essentially RAPE. Men of the past could easily get laid because of its lack of safety and stability and cultural trends promoting patriarchy and women whoring themselves out for men. Now that's gone women can move to their chadsexual/autosexual/ bisexual/ homosexual self. They never really wanted you nor any of your terribly average friend. Ever since their sexual awakening they wanted either Chad, their female friend, female clone of themselves or to see two faggots going down on each other>>25621870>Feminism and leftism in general is extremely gay but she's right in that sex is fundamentally rapey and coercive. The only sex which is consensual is the hypergamous one where women pick the top ~20% of men. But hypergamous sex is also immoral because it's inegalitarian in another way (denying most men intimacy).This is so stupid. The problem your stupid conjectures have is the same that dworkin's have. Fundamentally women are not equal to men, men only allow them to pretend to be. Suppose all men in modern day were determined to make women chattel. Could they stop them?
>>25625692I think its more of a value judgement in my case. Dworkin will say "all male on female sex is rape - here why that's a BAD thing" whereas i flip the script. She may not necessarily be wrong but our society before civilization couldn't have existed if a few hundred thousand men didn't force themselves on women in the transitory period between apes and humans before legal formalities were a thing and humans gained the ability to speak and reason. Society just needs to learn to tap back into that primal world if we're going to survive another hundred thousand years as a species.
>>25621285>Comment on her body of work without resorting to ad hominem att-ACK!?
The thing I don't appreciate about some of these radfeminist types is that we have to take their ludicrous ideas, which clearly stem from complexes formed around abuse, at face value. Now if a man were to have a similar complex he would be mocked, or maybe if the person he was dealing with was exceptionally kind, he would get a polite and private push into seeking help of some sort for the state of chronic crisis in his mind. Women, like Dworkin, are neither mocked nor are they given any help, they deal with waves of sycophants, both male and female, and then they just churn out this sub frequency cultural milieu that poisons the mind of young people and permanently damages their ability to form long term relationships. I mean what do the writings of Dworkin do for anyone? What purpose do they serve? Given this I'm happy she is so irrelevant, because her misandry being actualized would be catastrophic for the species, but in the exchange that saw her passed over, we got the abortion ones instead.
>>25628517It really does annoy me how feminism has developed a massive discipline about dissecting every single aspect of male existence without giving as much as an errant thought to women. Because they are inherently subjugated, and subordinate, one shouldn't pay them much mind, this is the patriarchy's gift to women. The privilege coferred by this is, above everything, something women will never willingly give away.>but in the exchange that saw her passed over, we got the abortion ones instead.It was inevitable because the abortion debate is one where women actually stand to win or lose something. There is a tangible thing women as a group are interested in fighting for. Radical feminist thought only had vitality in so far as their goals coincided with gains in the interest of women, once that stopped being the case and all that was left were the fixations of deeply damaged women their movement ground to a standstill and sank.
>>25628841huh
>>25625788Getting slapped across the face from a 90 lbs girl vs punching her square in the jaw is pretty different. Most men could easily kill women with their bare hands. Thats why physical violence is perceived as more heinous from a man than a woman.
>>25625633Men (and women to a lesser extent) that lack sexual desire are mostly victims of abuse.Think of how rampant pederesty was in Jesus and Paul's time. If I had a Greek guys dick in my ass at 12 I probably wont want to have sex as an adult.
>>25625521I have heard from people that have achieved auto-felatio it feels more like ducking a dick then getting your dick sucked.
>>25628850>Most men could easily kill women with their bare hands.And yet you let women live? Why are you not murdering your mother.
>>25621285>Comment on her body of work without resorting to ad hominem attacks.trick question.you can't and that's the point: you can't separate the [female] body from the (female) work.Dworkin was a clever jewess and was self-aware of her own physiognomy using it in her own ontological thesis: weaponizing the aesthetic of the ugly (the not beautiful).gender ressentimenton a historio-metaphysical level, where do you think the archetype for hags/covens trace from working back from Feminism?
>>25628456Imagine defending pornography. Now imagine defending pornography as a women.
>>25629029>Now imagine defending pornography as a womenOnlyfans creators do it implicitly. Its not the own you think it is.
>>25628951What would Nietzsche say about it?
>>25628854I have a close friend in which the exact opposite happened. Wonder what his deal is.>>25628857This friend of mine also said something similar.
>>25628841I saw an article recently about how the manosphere should be dealt with the same way we deal with smoke pollution. Academics are so blind to their own biases. Its all so very tiresome.
"Any man will follow any feminine looking thing down any dark alley; I've always wanted to see a man beaten to a shit bloody pulp with a high-heeled shoe stuffed up his mouth, sort of the pig with the apple; it would be good to put him on a serving plate but you'd need good silver."-Andrea Dworkin
>>25628879Because unlike the commonly accepted narrative its we who actually have more empathy. Women only love conditionally based on our material worth.
>>25621523So does Nietzsche's. And mine to an extent when I feel like being an asshole.
>>25624763A woman's orgasm is irrelevant and redundant in the greater picture sense.
>>25628841Women don't need academia to take down other women; they do it as a rule. Female psychology is that of the ever-constant need to be the queen of the situation. Read everything they do through the lens of the author asserting herself as the center of the universe and it all makes sense: abortion rights is about HER having control over her child's life and death, rape is about HER losing control in the situation (and rape porn being the rationalization that SHE was just so irresistible that the man lost his sense of decorum for HER). They rebel against the patriarchy yet want to keep the protection it affords them because they are perpetual teenagers, they want the protection and leisure of childhood but the freedom of adulthood, they want to FEEL responsible without the inherent sacrifice of responsibility. Christianity's archetypes are the key to this: Christ is seen as the greatest man because of his kenosis, that he poured out himself. Mary is seen as the greatest woman because SHE was chosen, SHE is blessed among women, it is HER son mutilated on the cross and the beloved disciple is given to HER. HER virginity means SHE is kept away from being soiled, post-biblical myth has it that the birth of Jesus was painless for HER.
>>25629044probably something under the line of "All great things must wear terrifying and monstrous masks".Dworkin was a Tiamat.If you adopt her phenomenology, you'd see from her body the justification of her philosophy (in a way, a female goddess theology/theogony).Is this apotheosis not gendered will-to-power? Die Uberfrau?
This thread is still alive?>>25621303Feast of Feedin'.I have never read Dworkin, but I'm willing to bet two things. That she would have called herself an atheist, and that her works are woefully bereft of considerations of what life would have looked like for humans during the majority of their existence. Before the domestication of grain allowed for a member of our species to reach the size she proudly aquired. The reality is male and female homo sapiens (woman and man are abstract concepts, sorry Matt Walsh, you pussy) would have had something like the sexual relationship of angler fish, in the inverse. What it costed to pass our big bulbous heads disables them so thoroughly from our style of hunting. No one gets mad at ducks for raping, or gorilla for infanticiding. Dworkin and company want to have an ideal, while denying the existence of God. Doesn't work that way. She does it in her rhetoric and her body. No one making claims like she does, and insisting they're derived from pure reason, should look like she does in a human body. Secular reasoning could never justify that.
>>25629029Imagine not defending pornography.Now imagine not defending pornography on an imageboard.
>>25629072she just wanted to fuck hard lol
>>25629058I cannot imagine how that comparison makes sense.>>25629094I don't think you get me. Obviously women duke it out and fight eachother. But no one has sat down to systematically dissect every single thing they do and condemn them for it. Schopenhauer (for example), did not spend countless hours pondering the world of women, and problematizing their ordinary actions, then pathologizing, scrutinizing every 'type' of woman, until everything she does becomes an infraction. That body of work does not exist. But it does exist for men, against whom it is liberally wielded.And frankly, women's fight for abortion is that they want the liberty to opt out of pregnancy. It is basically a bodily autonomy issue. The psychological dimension does not contain a power dynamic, you made that up. Plus your post about them being egocentric is extendable to all of mankind to some extent.
>>25629051Sexual abuse can also lead to hyper sexuality.I know some sluts that were diddled and they are crazy in bed and just generally crazy.
>>25629072I mean I wouldn't mind if she "beat me up" to deal with her shit, it's not like she could do much damage. How to find a fat extremely hairy /lit/ gf like her?
>>25628841Original anon here, I agree. I wish women would realize that evil, as they perceive it even, is as much a humanizing character as it is something to be guarded against. If you never are tempted or you can do no wrong, that does not mean you are more human, in fact you are less. They are also just lying to themselves, because they definitely are not wholly innocent.
>>25629151It was written in the Atlantic
>>25628850>Getting slapped across the face from a 90 lbs girl vs punching her square in the jaw is pretty different.Is it? Just to clarify, there an arbitrary number of force in Newtons below which simple battery is no longer a first degree misdemeanor, so that if I ever decide to hit a child I can be sure that it comes with no criminal penalty?Or is the lack of criminal penalty from the 'perception' that a fully developed adult woman can do minimal harm to an 8 year old?
>>25628850>implying women wouldn't kill men if they were only capable of it
>>25632284I do believe that if the physical power imbalance didn't exist women would rape men more often than the other. Even today women have their ways of coercing sex, that simply go uncounted because everyone agrees women have no agency.
>>25632339>women have their ways of coercing sexIf you get a boner, they're not coercing.If you don't, there's no sex.
>>25632503Do you know how you can make your nipples hard just by physically stimulating them? Not even in the sense of arousal, you can do something like scrape terrycloth over them and the 'soreness' alone coincides with increased bloodflow to the region.
>>25632593OK.Are you suggesting that if a woman does that to you, you're incapable of stopping her? Because that would be ... weak.
>>25632600I genuinely have no idea what you are trying to argue here.
I liked it when she called renowned paedophile Allan Ginsburg "a child raping paedophile who needs to die"She was write about that
>>25621285It seems like she has a chip on her shoulder, a chocolate chip that is.
>>25632635You're probably talking to a woman. Ignore her.
>>25632684I know, but that doesnt invalidate her emotions. Its easy to just set them aside as misinformed retards, but I find instead that it is something of a duty, the burden of man, to instead do what is hard and teach them at their level anyway. And the first part of that is trying to actually communicate with them, which, like with any particularly active child, requires pulling at the thread of their babble until you can get multiple glimpses of their speech patterns and build the picture of what that amazing little brain in there is actually trying to think.
