Why hasn't the great incel novel been written yet? We need someone to accurately describe the struggles of young sensitive men today.
>>25625460Infinite Jest
i hate the way 'sensitive' has come to mean simply 'neurotic'. my impression of online incels is that they are completely insensitive to anything outside of their own anxieties. which is maybe why they're incapable of making good art.
>>25625468>i hate the way 'sensitive' has come to mean simply 'neurotic'. my impression of online incels is that they are completely insensitive to anything outside of their own anxieties. which is maybe why they're incapable of making good art.incels make the best memes, which are the ultimate art
>>25625460Rejection by Tony Tulatheimutte
>>25625472there has never been a good meme except for kilroy was here and the rat who says change da world my final message goodbye
>sensitive>incelsAren't they famous for having aspergers and aggression
Japan already did it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnbquT6cj0Y
>>25625478ok boomer
"WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE POOR MEN" the internet bitched and moaned for the billionth time
hollywood already did it, in the 1950s no less.kind of messed up they could capture the incel dilemma back then but could never do it nowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_(film)
>>25625460i could never stand this faggot's awkward chungus humor. why is he popular? are there so many will-lacking automata out there that relate to this dogshite?
Women should stay away from all men, not just awkward autistic ones t. older female feminist
>>25625539There's nothing wrong with you that I couldn't fix with my hands :)
>>25625544Yeah, there's nothing wrong with me because I've stayed out of your hands for 73 years. Feels so good to be an elderly virgin if female
>>25625539>>25625549tits or GTFO granny
>>25625553Got rid of them years ago
>>25625559disturbing
>>25625476I got this on the nightstand but ain't read it yet
>>25625460My Twisted World
>>25625460But it has.
>>25625563A diary (desu), not a novel.
>>25625460Because no great novel in general has been written in the last 10 or so years. Social media is much more efficient as propaganda than books
>>25625468you have to actually immerse yourself in their communities like I did to realize there's an equal amount of shared beliefs and debates. Honestly, aside from the odd woman who tries to sign up to the forums only to get banned, the lack of women allowed to post there makes the conversations very straight foward and while there is some drama its relegated to a small part of the board where it gets disposed and forgotten. And I think the problem is people make all sorts of claims they're insenstive but can you really blame them considering no one actually tries to understand why they're so neurotic in the first place? As far as good art, you might be right but there's been attempts made. I am a substack writer so I often act as a mouthpiece for them in certain essays while expositing on various other topics like knowledge, metaphysics and ethics in other pieces. And yes, I got drawn to them basically by being in the larger men's movement umbrella.
>>25625559It’s striking to remember these are the type of fucking freaks I argue with on this board. Man this shit is such a waste of time.
>>25625468They begin as sensitive, they become neurotic and intolerant.
>>25625499It was a pendulum.Thank god it is nearly over, relatively speaking.
The Secretlab Titan Evo gaming chair financed via four biweekly Affirm installments that defaulted in November after the overdrafts, has shed its black polyurethane skin in jagged, psoriatic flakes across the beige Berber carpet, forming a dark snowdrift of synthetic petroleum dander around Tyler’s bare, yellow-nailed heels. Tyler is twenty-seven, though he describes himself in Discord bios as a “timeless old soul trapped in the post-Judaic kali yuga.” He is currently reclined at a one-hundred-and-thirty-five-degree angle, one hand buried up to the wrist in a family-size bag of Takis Fuego, the other resting delicately over his solar plexus as if attempting to manually stabilize a Victorian fainting spell."Aura maxxing right now." Tyler whispers to the empty bedroom, his voice thick with the phlegmy, un-exercised baritone of a man who has not spoken aloud to a non-relative since a disastrous GameStop return dispute in mid-October. "I feel too much. That’s the curse in the modern world. Men are forced to be slaves. We can't just express ourselves."The room smells like a terrarium where a large, depressed mammal is slowly fermenting in its own anxiety. Across the particleboard L-desk lies an archaeological cross-section of American lumpenprole gruel: eleven half-crushed aluminum cans of Monster Mango Loco serving as structural pillars for a precarious ziggurat of stiffened Taco Bell wax-paper wrappers; three ceramic cereal bowls coated in a translucent, amber glaze of petrified Maruchan chicken broth; and an open jar of Skippy peanut butter with a plastic fork submerged up to its tines in the oil layer. Directly above his dual-monitor rig hangs a slightly damp polyester wall-scroll of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, flanked by two $240 imported PVC figurines of underdressed anime teenagers wielding oversized sniper rifles from a Korean gacha game that currently consumes eighty-two percent of his monthly disability check. He loves women, you see. He reveres them. He is a student of their tragic, fragile essence. He is fond of the qualities of being "cute", "kawaii," and "innocent," as promised by Jesus and pals. It is just that actual, carbon-based women are unforgivably stupid bitches who refuse to recognize his sacrifice. Three-dimensional and pig disgusting. "Tyler, honey?" his mother’s voice filters through the wooden door, thin and tight with the permanently walking-on-eggshells tremor of a fifty-eight-year-old dental hygienist whose still claims her son as a dependent while he calls her a "boomer narcissist" at Thanksgiving. "I’m running to Costco before the rain starts.... "FUCK YOU BITCH!" Tyler roars, slamming his bare heel into the drywall hard enough to shake a framed print of Belle Delphine. "YOU LITERALLY NEVER RESPECT MY BOUNDARIES! LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!"
>>25626060funny caricature, but incelism is more widespread than the stereotype of a resentful neet or gamer
>>25626027Just because their faults are reasonable or explainable doesn't make them not be faults. It's better that there is a reason for the fault, it's better that the fault is explainable, it is still a fault.
>>25626060>post-Judaic kali yugaKek, 10/10
>>25626052Isn't it all, though.
what is op clip supposed to mean i dont get it
>>25625512It won't help you and you probably won't believe me anyway but part of the reason he does that act is to set people off. Almost all of his bits are part trolling, so when you see this dating one and he isn't trolling the woman he's interviewing, who is he trolling?
>>25625460Two words: Eliot Rodgers.I'll gurantee you he'll be a De Sade like figure for the future. Excellent writer.
>>25626116whoa no kidding you don't say. who knew awkward guy is trying to transpire awkwardness
>>25626199AI is never going to recommend him to readers. If it doesn't mention his name his name will pass on.
It already exists anon
>>25625549Some guys would get so desperate they'd rape you don't think i wouldn't try. And you'd have an orgasm like every other female because thats just how your body biologically responds. Don't blame me blame mother nature and your actual mother for not aborting you at conception.
the sharty shit has made me hate incels as much as I hate trannies and niggers
>>25626027Everyone knows why they have their sensitivities. The issue is that incels are such fucking cowards because they have permanent escapism. They run away from every hurt by overgeneralising, especially about women, and doing nothing to improve themselves.
>>25625468It makes sense for sensitivity to correlate with neuroticism, the latter of which is a regular personality trait that has a negative connotation although it is no more a negative quality than the other Big 5 personality spectra. I gather you associate sensitivity with empathy, and empathy with your political leanings, however, that is your own projection and is neither logical nor reflective of reality.
>>25626342>Everyone knows why they have their sensitivities. The issue is that some soldiers are such fucking cowards because they have access to Canada. They run away from every war by overgeneralising, especially about death, and doing nothing to protect themselves.>Everyone knows why they have their sensitivities. The issue is that billionaires are such fucking cowards because they have permanent escapism. They run away from every market downturn by hedging their bets, especially about growth companies, and doing nothing to support the economy.>Everyone knows why they have their sensitivities. The issue is that artists are such fucking cowards because they have permanent escapism. They run away from every form of employment by overgeneralising, especially about working 8 hours a day, and doing nothing to contribute to Social Security.>Everyone knows why they have their sensitivities. The issue is that women are such fucking cowards because they have permanent escapism. They run away from every hurt by overgeneralising, especially about men, and doing nothing to improve themselves.And so on.
>>25625468Correct. They're often thick-skinned and callous.
>>25625512>why is he popular?Early life
>>25626204Doesn't matter. Quality always wins.
>>25626358>whataboutismYou know this shit is the problem right? Stop giving excuses and just be tougher and smarter. The world won't get softer for you. If you don't improve yourself you will live in misery until you die, is that what you want?
>>25625460There's actually a great incel play running off broadway in nyc right now, here's a plot summary and review of ithttps://youtu.be/Pm_ycmAd3M4
>>25625460THE GREAT INCEL NOVEL IS WRITTEN IN DNA STRANDS, WITH THE CARRIER OF THE INFORMATION BEING THE BEDSHEETS, THE OLD SOCKS, AND THE PAPER TOWELS OF SAID INCELS.THIS IS INFORMATION ALREADY KNOWN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
>>25625468>completely insensitive to anything outside of their own anxietiesThat's how good art is made
who the fuck is that greasy asshole standing in the background? lol
>>25626052Is the lady wrong though? Why shouldn't she stay away from people who think she is subhuman and threaten to kill and rape her?
>>25625549Based volcel granny causing rapist butthurt Recommend me a book about volceldoom volcel granma?
man one day technology may be advanced enough to play video with audio on the internet what a world that would be
>fucking with a purple hair chickif that guy wants to be loved he should drop that awful wig and be his authentic bald self
>>25626060Sad about the part with the mom, so many elderly people are stuck with a monster kid who takes their money
>>25626467u read that ai slop? lol
>>25625460Any accurate portrayal would have to balance the unrelatable, myopic aspects of incels who wallow in self-pity with inceldom as a reasonable and justifiable response to absolute social deprivation and alienation. As far as I can see, an incel would be incapable of writing it because they’re too entangled in their own frame of reference to have an objective, neutral take on themselves. But it’s also very difficult to find someone who isn’t part of that world to write about it without bias or judgment.TLDR: I have the necessary skill, partisan view and empathic sensibility to write it, just give me more time faggots
>>25626480Its just going to come off as whiny and pathetic no matter how hard you try. No one is sympathetic to incels not because they dont have legitimate grievances but because they sound like whiny weaklings no matter how they present them.
>>25626552We can find all sorts of characters in fiction reprehensible and still empathise with their suffering. You don’t have to identify with the things they do or say, in fact you don’t even have to come close to demonstrating that their rationalisations are correct (because most of the time they aren’t). But at the very least you can make the source of their grievances relatable because they hold true for the vast majority of people. We all seek intimacy and connection, for the most part; we all have to wrestle at times with feelings of inadequacy, alienation and hopelessness. Inceldom is one cope among many, it just comes with a lot of ideologically-adjacent baggage that many find reprehensible.
>>25625460Sorrows of Young Werther is right there
>>25626597Yeah you're definitely going to fail.
>>25626480my twisted world
>>25626437Is the good art in the room with us right now?
>>25625460It was. Houellebecq - Extension du domaine de la lutte (or "Whatever" for you angloid filth) is about the incel and "sexual marketplace"/neoliberalization of sex decades before you came of age and discovered 4chan.
>>25626371>thick-skinnedYou either don’t understand what that word means (because you’re an idiot), or you’re don’t understand the people you’re applying it to (also because you’re an idiot)
>>25626794haha found the smelly virgin
>>25626819You think neurotic people are thick-skinned, because you don’t know what thick-skinned means. Because you’re a moron.
>>25627137what no pussy does to a motherfucker
>>25627154You thought I was attacking you because you talked about incels. But it was actually because you don’t know what thick-skinned means. You’re embarrassed now.
>>25626480As I wrote before. Eliot Rodgers does all this, he's funny and morbid, myopic but empathizable. He captures the entire spectrum. The only problem is that most incels are not violent and he clearly colors their larger perception.
>>25627165mad and insecure
>>25625460we are waiting for you to do it
>>25626027Incels.is politics board was the freest debate environment I've found on the internet. The quality of discussion is abysmal, but you genuinely do get people with completely different ideas and POVs giving their minds without mass mobilization to mantain concensus or the moderation stepping in.
PSA: a persistent anon who unironically describes himself as "trollmaster" (lmao) has taken to flooding the thread with unreadable word salad. You'll recognize his posts when you see them.
>>25625874Just slap autofiction on the cover of that bitch and you've got yourself a killer (heh) novel.
>>25626794Or, get this, it was a mistake. Crazy, right? I meant thin-skinned, obviously. But thanks for the self-report because you fit the description perfectly.
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>>25625871kys
>>25625460It probably won't actually get written for at least a decade. All of the things that have made the current era a shitty time to be a young guy also make it very difficult for someone to tell a story about how and why being a young man sucks now from a young man's perspective.
>>25630029It's never going to be written because it's not a subject that inspires Art.
>>25630036>it's not a subject that inspires ArtWhat a silly assertion.
>>25626372Being Jewish improves one's sense of humor?
>>25630158That's quite a leap, anon. I simply answered why he's popular.
>>25625468It's what happens when a sensitive man meets an insensitive world
>>25626794It's a brown foidlook>>25626819>>25627154>sex sex sex sexIf women aren't sex objects why do they only view the world through a sexual lens
>>25626231Protag of this novel has sex though
>>25626342It's hard to make yourself vulnerable when you feel like you have 1 HP left
>>25625460it would be about a mother who divorces her would-be husband and teachers her daughter to, for five generations
>>25631127Not an excuse to be insensitive. Anything but developing personal accountability, huh?
>>25631130Here, let me help you.I >>25626371 am not >>25626819 and >>25627154.Cool?
>>25625460My idea for an incel novel has actually nothing to do with the psyopped internet definition which is synonymous with "white domestic terrorist", so I don't know if it could have "incel" in the title, as the contrast between the title and the story's raunchy and lighthearted tone plus its wholesome moral might be seen as a taboo political statement.
>>25625460Rejection by Tony Tulathimutte
>>25625460There's an incel play running in nyc right now called "Degenerates" that's really good. Even has a character who troons out to deal with his inceldom. Hopefully it comes to broadway and more people get to see it.
