Reading the polemics against stoicism by Cicero and Plutarch, there is not one contemporary philosopher that comes anywhere near the discipline and asceticism they describe. In fact, the people today who call themselves stoics are merely following the doctrine of moderation prescribed by their critics.
>no true Scotsman
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Epicurean chads stay winning
>>25625501What's your point? Practically no one anywhere lives up to any philosophical or religious system. >>25626031Plutarch and Cicero also criticized Epicureanism. Not that you have an understanding of it beyond cherry-picked motivational quotes of Epicurus's more coherent sayings.
>>25626360Epicurus solved everything, that's why they burned his works
Cicero was a larper, anyway.
>>25626691>Epicurus solved everything>that's why they burned his worksSo you're just imagining Epicurus was actually the most brilliant philosopher to ever live.
>>25626691>Hitler burned transgender literature>therefore trannies are correct
Stoicism gives you poor tools on how to cope within a broken system. seek a philosophy that diagnosis the framework and gives you the tools to change it or make it better, seek Marxism
>>25626911Marxism is satanic
>>25626691Epicurus was also loathed by Platonists such as Galen though. Epicureanism is a major breakaway from Platonist and Aristotlean traditions.
>>25626031
>>25626704What do you claim he was larping as?
>>25627468A Stoic.
>>25627485How was Cicero larping as a stoic when he wrote De Finibus, which mocks Cato for being a stoic?
>>25627672His phony skepticism doesn't prevent him from being larping as a stoic. Read De Officiis.
>>25626691Rare Jewish W
>>25627691Nta, but that's silly, Cicero's skepticism wasn't anything phony, he was a student of one of the last teachers of skeptical Platonism.
Philosophers don't exist
>>25625501I've noticed this too OP. Pop stoicism is literally Epicureanism: practicing moderation and discipline in order to find peace and minimize the suffering in your life
>>25625501>the people today who call themselves stoicswhy? the usual name is Christian
>>25626691I know you didn't read the Vatican Sayings, that's what I said. You didn't have to post proof.>>25626832He's an Instagram philosopher.
>>25629134>in order to find peace and minimize the suffering in your lifeNo actually that's way off the mark
There are no fake neoplatonists.
>>25625501I'm an absurdist. Nothing matters except power, persuasion, influence, and muh dick
>>25630452I don't think Camus said that
>>25626911Stoicism gives you the simple and logical understanding that you can't control what's outside of your control. I have no idea why this basic idea, which is in fact infallible, not only filters but mindbreaks countless men.
>>25625501>there is not one contemporary philosopher that comes anywhere near the discipline and asceticism they describe.Try monks, stoic tenants appear to be foundational to Christianity
>>25632683Stoic ethics and psychology were almost completely absorbed by monasticism, but there is so much other stuff in there, depending on who you talk to or what you read, that you could not say that monks are stoics in any straightforward sense. There is also some borrowing from the thought world of Stoicism in Saint Paul.
>>25632493I'm out of your control, sissy.
>>25632719In effect, I do. I made you post, and I made you mad. But that was your choice. If you had focused on what you can control, like a man, you wouldn't mistakenly believe that acting like a retard could force me to have the emotional reaction you were seeking.
