APOLOGIZE.
What for?Iran won against the US, Houthies are on the offensive, NATO is more destabilized than ever and there are now open anti-Zionists in the US senate.
>>25633759The winners are Iran and Azov battalion. Where did the post-USSR liberal order win?
What's the most likely outcome for the United States, do you think?I say it's either dictatorship or balkanization. We are either Rome in 63 BC or we are the Soviet Union in 1987.
Dems didn't win on liberalism though, they won on populism and reactionary backlash against Trumpism
>>25633770>now open anti-Zionists in the US senateThere are 350 congressmen from the aipac party, Schumer is back in business leading it. There are tactical handout promoting muslims (either with muslim condidates or with whining about the cute and valid barbarians in palestine, note we are only and exclusively allowed to be against Jews through the mediation of promoting muslims) who run as "anti zionist", a distinction without a difference from angloprotestant golemism.
>>25634219The goal of the Republican party since Bush 2 has been Soviet Union 1987, so that seems a little more likely to me.
>>25633759>Society is moving between extremes like a sinusoidal wave>Pats himself on the back whenever it hits the x-axisPretty crafty, Mr. End
>>25634248stop being racist against English people, Sanchez, its not a good look.
>>25633759>nothing changed.I'm still convinced you would enjoy Thailand more.
>>25634311Interestingly, this is what happened at the end of the Roman Republic, too. The whiplash from Marius to Sulla to Pompey was similarly extreme, with each new leader of the three undoing all the other's policies.Which of course is kino, the United States is at its best when it's echoing Rome. It does suggest that either Sulla, Pompey, or Caesar might be coming, though.
>>25634248>we are only and exclusively allowed to be against Jews through the mediation of promoting muslimsthis is a very interesting observation
>>25634329It really is about nothing more than the hatred of Christianity, isn't it? They hate white people because white people are so historically Christian. They hate Europe because Europe is historically Christian. They hate the Catholic Church because it's Christianity Number One. It's all downstream of them seething that they nailed their Messiah to a cross and have never gotten over it.
>>25634219Balkanization, the west coast declines due to water issues (Lake Mead and Lake Powell) and becomes a subservient trading partner of China. The east attempts to uphold NATO and keep the EU as vassals o algo and gets nuked by Russia.
>>25634338I can see a white ethnostate developing somewhere in the southeast. The Gulf Coast is an underrated spot going forward, it's got major ports and the usually-calm seas of the Gulf and the Caribbean for shipping.
>>25634343Lol yeah, where all the black people are is where there will be a white ethno state
>>25634346You need SOME place with access to international shipping. There's a reason nations tend to develop near coastlines.
>>25634336No one thinks about you dumb cunts at allYou're just the cheapest set of votes for power brokers to bid on. Bad loyalty though, you were liberals until the Reagan years.
>>25634349The KKK tried to establish its Valhalla in the Pacific North West in the 90s for a reason. It failed for a reason. The only place it has a chance of succeeding is if you conferate like Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, and South Dakota, but even the white pride retards wouldn't want to live there.
>>25634362If the government in Washington goes tits-up it's a whole new ballgame. We'd be in uncharted territory, no guarantee that what happened in the past would happen again.
>>25634324You can also observe this cycling between extremes in many other things. interior design, for example. The key is learning what the x-axis is, because that is probably the truth/best way/normalcy etc.
>>25633807they will make a peace deal that pull iran into the global market and international finance system, it's over
>>25634338Balkanzation might threaten my benefits.
>>25634221I'd say it's not even really backlash against Trumpism the ideology, more that it was rooted specifically in anger with Iran, which is more a sentiment that reflects a rejection of neoconservative imperialism rather than a dismissal of the foundational tenets of the Trumpist movement. The underlying cultural shifts however persist like the defeat of transgender-related ballot measures in the same night, support for Israel now solidified as a non-negotiable dealbreaker, or the perception of "woke" excesses as electoral liabilities. This indicates that the currents animating Trumpism and the forces that created the right-wing populist movement have not been dismantled, but rather forced into a series of strategic concessions.
>>25634465The interesting guy to watch, for me, is DeSantis. He's not tied to Trump at all and he has a visible track record of competence down in Florida. If the electorate is still pretty right-wing, just very anti-Trump, it strikes me that DeSantis could take advantage of this.
>>25634549Yeah, his betting odds shot up after the midterms. I think the Republican establishment will end up backing him while a faction aligned with a nationalist or "post-Trumpist" figure (ie the successor of Trumpism in the ideological sense, the right wing populist, implicitly white, protectionist - albeit with more strategically executed tariffs than whatever Trump had in mind - that sort of ideology) like Tucker or Massie could emerge (not Fuentes, he's a meme). That seems like the clear schism in the party right now. Trump drew a coalition at his peak appeal that the Republicans traditionally struggled with, which DeSantis could depending on his approach appeal to (does well with Hispanics who Trump surprisingly gained with then alienated).
>>25634569The Democrats' move here is interesting ,everyone thinks it's going to be Ossoff now but Ossoff is literally Jewish and isn't as subtle as he thinks he is about his support for Israel. Which, of course, is now politically toxic among voters across the American spectrum.
IM NOT WORTHYIM NOT WORTHYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rlQqWbp7rYfukuyama sama, please take pity on me
>>25634465If woke remains dead it’s victory enough, Trump did the job he was hired to to in 2016
>>25634577I guess my hope with Trump has always been a bit grander. Very much on-topic to this thread, I was hoping Trump would, basically, restart history. His win in 2016 was such a shock that it felt like the ossification of the Postwar Era might seriously be threatened.And, to be honest, if we look at things objectively, Trump's era HAS brought an end to the "end of history." Think of everything that's transpired. We've had COVID. We had the Russo-Ukrainian War. We've had the Iran-Israeli War. We have Europe on the verge of explosion and the US political system is extremely fragile.Trump may not have been the sole cause of the resumption of Grand Events, but he certainly seems to have kicked it off. And I think everybody who thinks after he's gone things will go "back to normal" is fooling themselves.
>>25634219nothing ever happens.democrats will be taken over by the dsa and implement woke 2.the gop will be lost in the political wilderness, trump failed, you cant return to reaganism and bushism, the boomer evangelicals are dying off. historically the democrats controlled congress for much of the 20th century, up until 1994.the black pill everyone needs to grow up and swallow is that in the end fukuyama was right, trump was an abbration that failed, we are still in the end of history
>>25634324america echoing rome suggests one day there will be an american jesus
>>25634583Have you ever considered suicide?
>>25634577Trump allowed the most corrupt, sclerotic, uninspired managerial technocrats in modern history to govern without ever having to justify their own record. They could simply point to the ORANGE MAN BAD strawman and emphasize their maturity as the Aaron Sorkin "adults in the room". He was the greatest scapegoat and content generator they could have asked for. He has managed to make the likes of Gavin Newsom look compelling in comparison. It's been a 12 year fever dream where an entire civilization convinced itself that political reality and our existential future hinged on an internet meme war that could be won with the right tweet. We handed the keys over to an NBC reality TV host because he cracked a few jokes that sounded like the racist chain emails your grandpa used to get on AOL mixed with the rants of Rush Limbaugh.Our end result of all this? Nothing. The family unit stayed unrepaired. Industry was never meaningfully brought back to our shores. Neither a marxist revolution nor a fresh ruling aristocracy or white ethnostate emerged. What we produced instead was a mass of atomized spectators howling at one another through smartphones making con artists and would-be reality TV rejects in another zeitgeist online millionaires. Power consolidated in the hands of a few oligarchs and tech companies under the noses.
>>25634595>t.
>>25634599your mother would miss my dick too much if i did it
>>25634600My introduction to right wing thought was through Limbaugh via my dad in the early 90s and the last few decades I got more and more extreme over time. I now write right wing philosophy in my spare time and decided to go back to school to get a Bachelor's or Master's in world history.
>>25634606You're gonna have to suck my dad off first if you want to go there
>>25634581>We have Europe on the verge of explosionNothing in Europe is disturbing the existing trends of Muslims eventually becoming the majority there, which has been going on for decades at this point.
>>25634625This situation in Poland is interesting. I think it's the beginning of the end of the EU.
>>25634600We're still on track to do basically one of these >>25634219 , everything the tech bros have accomplished is temporary. None of them impress me anyway, they're transitional ruling class rather than something more permanent. The likes of Zuckerburg or Musk can't hold power.
>>25634608>My introduction to right wing thought was through Limbaugh via my dadSame. Now my conservative philosophy mostly comes from Dostoevsky and Wordsworth.
>>25634336>senooooor,dey be hatin usnice joke,pablo
>>25634336>They hate the Catholic Church because it's Christianity Number One.Anon, I have bad news.
>>25634359>>25634679>>25634683t. Jews
>>25634685I'm Jewish because the Catholic Church unequivocally supports Muslim migration to Europe and the US?
>>25633759I reckon in retrospective Trump is going to be Eden and Iran the Suez Crisis. All be it a not so stark decline.
>>25633759>>25633759What's even the definition of "liberal" democracy? You can't question the holocaust in most "liberal" democracies without bein jailed.
>>25634691What he's REALLY going to be remembered for is presiding over the downfall of Israel, which anyone who's been paying attention to events in the region can see coming from a mile away.
>>25634692It's like the difference between a billionaire and an oligarch, or the difference between a terrorist and a revolutionary.
>>25634665How so? The EU will win out in Poland as it always does
>>25634717The EU will go bankrupt eventually. If France can fail then no one is safe.
>>25634719They will just federalize so other states (Germany) can take up the burden. I don’t see a world where the EU goes away
>>25634723Germany isn't that wealthy.
>>25634723The EU is a failed experiment. If the EU forces its states to federalise there will be mass riots.
>>25634717The Soviets didn't win out in Poland, what makes you think the Brussels twats have a better shot?
>>25634318>>25634679I am from northwest yurop and asked myself what could possibly be related to Spaniards before realizing you were talking about Mexicans. With all the migration heat (understandably) shifting to Indians and a few others afro-asiatics I sometimes forget the US is now a quarter beaners and rising. Calling people that disagree with muttoids self-serving delusions "pablo sanchez" has a 2015 vintage feel to it now.
>>25634812In the end I genuinely expect a breakdown of national governments in a lot of Western countries followed by a LOT of ethnic cleansing. I for sure think it will happen in Europe, you'll get things like the breakdown of the rule of law or the armed forces defecting and then people with dark skin are gonna fucking die. How does the trend >>25634625 mentions get stopped? Well, it gets stopped with a lot of dead Musliims, that's how it gets stopped.We all know that when it comes to a no-holds-barred fight, white people mop the floor with the other races. Just look at how long Rhodesia held out. So the dumb black and brown people are just gonna die.The extralegal networks of the Postwar Order (the EU, the UN, NATO, the international finance system) keep a lid on all this stuff now. But it's all fucking breaking, and as it breaks you are going to see some carnage. I guarantee it.
>>25634816For starters, Muslim is not a race or an ethnicity.
>>25634820native europeans are not muslim except for a few fringe cases and two eastern european countries no migrant would ever go to unless forced at gunpointdo you have fun larping as a redditor on /lit/ of all places?
>>25634877>native europeans are not muslim Where in my post did I claim they were?
>>25634816>We all know that when it comes to a no-holds-barred fight, white people mop the floor with the other races. Just look at how long Rhodesia held out.The Rhodesians lost.
>>25634816None of that will happen. what race war? I live in a hispanic majority border state. If anything, whites and "hispanics" are having so many kids with each other they are slowly turning into one group.
>>25634609don't say this
>>25634219>What's the most likely outcome for the United States, do you think?Absolute nothing ever happens chud victory.
>>25634465LMAO you're so retarded.
>>25634219everything gets worse until everybody lives in a mumbai slum hub and everybody is the same ethnicity/race and we all are connected together on a global neuralink internet system where you get personalized ads beamed into your dreams and the economy is optimized for your own maximum loosh harvest. Literally can not have anything cool or fun in this reality. God forbid we get to live in some comfy final fantasy world TES universe or pokemon world. The 4D demonsters are on that enshittification maxx game like we are the toilet of the multiverse to go shit in.
>>25634465Cope. Nationalism and right wing populism are dead
>>25633759>"Behold........We still think like Francis Fukuyama, even as we mock his comical arguments and conclusions. We think like Fukuyama because Fukuyama thinks like Hegel, Rousseau and Locke. They all believed modern European philosophy had attained a fundamental breakthrough and that the secret of how to organise political societies had at long last been attained. Madness, yes ...... but what enchanting madness…Amen"
>>25635842Speak for yourself, asshole, I'm committed to monarchy and aristocracy. It worked fine for thousands of years, meanwhile "democracy" isn't even gonna make it 300 years before devolving into total slop. Hegel LOST, Fukuyama LOST, history itself has vindicated the reactionaries.And when the Postwar Order has completely collapsed, we'll see a return to explicitly hierarchical systems of government. Just you wait.
>>25635813now this is sheer arrogance. at least wait for the french elections before you say this
>>25635976More than that, by all available data it's simply incorrect. >>25634465 has the best take on it all. A bunch of right-wing ballot initiatives passed, we even had people vote against an expansion of abortion rights, albeit in deep red Idaho. This was, more than anything else, a reaction to Zion Don doing the Israelis' bidding and going to war with Iran, a war nobody wanted, nobody asked for, that was totally unjustified, and that Trump himself never even bothered defending to the American people.Trump basically personally caused gasoline and diesel prices to skyrocket. That's the explanation.
>>25635976The French will, as usual, vote for whoever is running against Le Pen.
>>25636138Unless it's Melenchon. It's changed over there, they act like he's the bigger threat now because of the whole zionism issue. Macron kept the left out of a PM position back in 2024. If its a centrist, then yes, but if it is Melenchon in round 2 I think Le Pen will win
>>25636153melenchon wont get to round 2. its going to be a macronist (attal or philippe) vs le pen and a repeat of the same scenarios
>>25636153Melenchon reminds me more of trump than le pen does, le pen has sort of watered down being far right to appeal more to the mainstream, while Melenchon seems like a crazy bastard who will ruin the french economy, let in more muslims, and scare the jewsif either of them won it would be hilarious though, feel like the center in french politics is dead
>>25633759For what? The Chinese have set themselves up nice for the next millennium whereas the liberal democracies of North America and Europe are all going down the tubes. He couldn't have been more wrong.
>>25633759God you’re all so dumb. You are stuck living in the past and interpreting the world through the past which is exactly why the GOP is dying. These elections prove nothing about the endurance of liberalism. They just prove that you can no longer form a sustained political consensus in a world of epistemic collapse and internet rage. Liberalism can no longer produce the results that anyone wants and this during a time of extreme technological acceleration where AI companies overtly have hostility towards the masses and towards politics in general. They think they can do better, and people like Elon will come to this conclusion and create a new right-wing from the ashes of Trump. Liberalism will inevitably be seen as something to be overcome, not just a game to play in dirty ways which is what the GOP thought. The coming demise of traditional liberal politics will set the stage for oligarchic capture. It will be tech CEO versus citizen, corporation versus state, humans against transhumanists. Fukuyama wrote a whole book about this happening and knows deep down shit is about to get fucked.
>>25633759TOTAL LIBTARD DEATH. HAIL THE COMING OF CAESAR.
>>25635813If all it takes is 1 random mid term election cycle to kill Trump, then evidently he wasn’t very strong in the first place and was a house of cards all along. The real question is who were the people propping him up. They’re the ones really in charge, and everyone needs to focus on them instead. Trump was nothing more than a useful golem.
chudism, right wing populism, dissident right, alt right, groypers, all that shit is dead. In order to take the presidency and also to appeal to hispanics and women, the gop has to move to the center. they have to appeal to centrists, moderates, and independents If by some miracle a republican became president again they would have to be moderate and bipartisan in order to work with the democrat controlled congress.face the facts, right wing populism is over.I think the future of populism is left wing, the DSA will try to take over the democrat party and hold it hostage till it becomes more critical of israel and oligarchs post midterms was the vibeshift out of the long 2010s, out of the extreme culture war that started with gamergate in 2014, then amplified with trump, blm, me too, and covid.we are entering the twilight of trumpism.
>>25636236It might be over but I'm hardly populist. Most of the masses are ingrates.
>>25636240yeah im sure you're a blast at parties xD
>>25636236And appealing to broads is the last thing I want to do. Women are idiots.
>>25636241Who even goes to parties anymore? Everyone sits on their phone all day doomscrolling, grandpa.
>>25636236yeah i agree, i think establishment gop and neolibs might form an informal coalition united around israel and capital. dsa takes populist mantle. far right is relegated to fringe again except in a few redneck shitholes
>>25636246Don't say i didn't warn you
>>25633759Turdworlders realized that money runs politics, regardless of how deeply trenched they are on ideological background, through constant exposure from political corruption regularly happens there. Yet, we ourselves seasoned our discussion like it's a struggle of some hegelian dialectics bullshit. It's not the intellectuals, the common men, or anyone who participate in this election who decide politics but those who financed the election do.
>>25636153Melenchon and LFI at large can best be interpreted as France’s Tudeh. They are merely laying the foundations for Islamist takeover and will be cast aside when their benefactors have no more need of them.
>>25636300Capeshit retardation being peddled only because we’re in a war with Iran and you need this useful narrative to drum up wars against Muslims. There is no Islamist takeover of the West, they are a class subordinate to leftists instead of the other way around. Actual Islamists don’t go around saying trannies and gays are cool like Mamdani does. Now fuck off
>>25635963>>25635758fuck off groyper tranny
>>25633759>"The End of History means the stabilization of global social development around the principles of peaceful liberal democratic nation states with deep market integration as the form of organisation most conductive to individual actualization">"The End of History means that, despite numerous simultaneous wars, decline of democratic institutions, unprecedented class disparity and corruption, and deeply fractured global economy, First World standard of life remains a desirable goal for a major part of global population" >"The End of History means that USA remains globally relevant, persevering through such arduous challenges as ONE WHOLE PRESIDENTIAL CYCLE">"The End of History is when Congress blue">>>YOU ARE HERE<<<>"The End of History is when Sino-Nigerian forces respectfully ask our liberal establishment for a permission to deploy their military bases in Panama and Hawaii (which we grant because liberal consensus is magnanimous and cooperative)
>>25636268why do americans even have legalized and blatant lobbying
>>25636315Leftist-aligned Muslims are clearly playing the long game, just as they did in Iran and Palestine and elsewhere. The left at large is in for a huge surprise in the coming years.
>>25636714Iran was Muslim for 1400 years before the revolution. Palestinians turned to Islamism because leftism already demonstrably failed. The conditions of so-called Islamic state takeover don't exist anywhere at all besides countries that are already Muslim.
>>25635758The future is high tech and low life. It's just cyberpunk. There is 0 chance liberalism survives here, and 0 chance revolution against the AI companies and capitalists is possible when they actually have superintelligence as a weapon against us.
>>25636236but the republicans lost for not being populist enough.all it takes for the republicans to be attractive again is further increases in the cost of living during a democrat presidency.
>>25636236Populism won't last.Make politics boring again.
>>25636236I think the DSA is going to peak somewhere around 2030-2032 and then probably fizzle out. Maybe a max of like 20 seats in congress (they have 6 as of today), which would be impressive but starting today donors will start chimping out if they start actually trying to pull this kind of shit in any kind of contested race instead of deep blue new york (though there's been a few good examples thus far of contested victories, I don't think it's going to feel the bern)
>>25636973Of course, this hinges on basically millenials and older zoomers because boomers are going to be dying out by then anyways. But the money is going to remain regardless, and even a Soros figure is going to hesitate at fully funding a social democratic party in America in name
>>25636236>the gop has to move to the centerthey already did that with their war for jews, which has been the (((centrist))) position for decades. and look at that, it killed the GOP
>>25636973I hope the socialists in the org split and form an actual party. Look at what happens to the electeds they push. Mamdani opened his asshole for the jews as soon as he won the primary.
>>25636973Socialism is inevitable in the future because of AI. It’s not going away.
>>25637073the DSA's strategy ever since around 2016 iirc has been to essentially parasite off of the Dems and their base n shieet until they grow large enough to secede and form their own block (this is public info btw)Arguably we are reaching the time for this to occur, but I think they've also realized that splinter parties usually become spoilers that get annexed by the two party system in time. So they might just keep trying to continue their insurgency within the Democratic party itself, it'd probably prove more successful than leaving.But either way, theyre riding off of the left's shift away from SJW and more towards Trumpian-esc populism alongside antizionism. They essentially live as long as the recent uproar in antizionism continues in America, which could either be a while or, well, not that long (arguably it has already begun to fade away or at least change form from it's original 2023 shape). and before that we had healthcare for all and woke 1 which essentially evaporated quickly>>25637382maybe, but AI is too unpredictable to see where it's going from the present
>>25636780European countries like the UK and France will be majority Muslim in the future, that’s when this shift will occur
>>25637859No, they won't.
I wonder what the cope from turdies will be when Iran collapses in 6-12 months.You guys know that strait traffic is back at 100% right? That the Iranian economy is at great depression levels? That there are about to be three carriers in centcom aor?
>>25637897>year 2 of the 3 week special regime change of operation
>>25635117>The Rhodesians lost.Rhodesia lost in the political theatre, and were forced to make concessions with the terrorists because they were completely out of money and material to keep fighting the bush war. In every military engagement, the Rhodesians mopped the floor with the terrorists.
>>25638153>durrr if US winning why russia?
>>25637897>in 6-12 months we are going berserker mode
Liberalism is back. Trump was a little sideshow distraction to placate the rubes. Now they know liberalism is the best they got and they will fall in line again. Praise Fukuyama. Big Fuke always delivers.
>keeps Hegseth>fires Wiles and puts Miller in her placeHe's actually gonna fucking do it. He's going to try a coup. If he does it and he succeeds Fukuyama should have to commit seppuku on livestream.
>>25638292>>25638293the duality of the last man
>>25638293he'll try and fail miserably. dems will drag him out of the ballroom bunker kicking and screaming if they have to
>>25638300If he has Hegseth he has the military. Or haven't you noticed that Hegseth has steadily purged the generals and admirals of anyone insufficiently loyal to Trump?
>>25638306i question if the military will go along with it, especially with democrats threatening legal consequences, but he'll definitely try something
>23rd century>only jeets and muslims remained after 22nd century global war between hinduism and islam>100 billion jeets and muslims merged into the final human form>the ummahsaar>all guys are all manlet height living off AI farmed grass juice infused with mcdonalds protein>the endgame of woman domination is the dommy mommy 7 foot class elite living in the high towers>no democracy no vote just wheel of pain job for manlet class to power the AI systems running everything>no vehicles to conserve gas for AI systems, instead simulated traffic noise of 21st century india, AI coordinated LED emitting drones in public space instead of private lighting, AI simulated call to prayer to data center mecca every hour for 2 minute break from wheel of pain to add up to 24 minute prayer during 12 hour shifts on wheels of pain
>>25638283>iran can just go fremen mode and outlast the united states forever bro
>>25638341Afghanistan literally did exactly that.
>>25638347okay cool. Iran will be like Afghanistan and become a tribal confederation whose ability to project power outside their border is roughly limited to the fuel tank of a toyota hilux. Sounds like an American victory to me.
>>25638293It should have been apparent from Ukraine and Russia that Trump is just a puppet at worst and a temporary manager at best for the American empire.
>>25638453Trump single-handedly destroyed the American Empire. Canada of all countries is an enemy of the US now.
>>25638293Trump doesn’t have it in him to do a real coup. Something half assed like a Jan 6 2.0 maybe, but that’s about it
>>25638485The premise that Trump possesses the inherent vitalism of a Hitler or Mussolini has always struck me as a fanciful proposition. He is essentially a performative celebrity, a vulgar game show host and real estate mogul, a pimp presiding over televised beauty pageants entangled with the Epstein networks, rather than a man of war, a syndicate leader, or an artist. He lacks the singular, driving passion and visceral vigor that defined those historical figures or fascism as it was.
>>25638341They have literally been doing this for 50 years and are still somehow the regional power in the Middle East despite all the sanctions.
>>25638293The military fucking hates this administration, they would never go along with it even if Trump tries (fairly likely I'll admit)
>>25637386>maybe, but AI is too unpredictable to see where it's going from the presentNo, it's not. We can see pretty clearly where things are headed. Fukuyama wrote a whole book acknowledging that AI and transhumanism can be the thing that truly kills liberalism because it would automatically render the idea of equality obsolete in every way -- superior human, megacorps and technocrats owning all the means of production, humans needing to ascend with eugenics or neural chip uplinks to compete with machine intelligence. Like, do you guys just not know about what the oligarchs have planned for us? Why do you think Elon Musk is hellbent on putting data centers in space, rolling out his robot factories and advancing neurological tech with Neuralink? You will become human pets to the machine and the people who run it, and you won't be able to turn it off because the compute is in outer space. There is no universe where liberalism survives any sort of AI Singularity. Indeed nothing will survive at all. This technology is a complete epochal upheaval of all nations, cultures, religions and values. And the only reason it's happening is because about 100-200 really rich people insist on making it happen knowing the consequences will be a 21st century rife with war, chaos and totalitarian control. The sooner you stop denying that this is coming (like Fukuyama has, although these days he pushes it out of his mind) the sooner we can act now to stop it before our methods inevitably become violent
>>25638462Canada won't do shit lol. They're going to get officially annexed once the neolib empire declines further.Wake me up when they start buying J-20s and Chinese Air defense systems and we'll talk.
>>25637897They only collapse when America 'forced' them to collapse through land invasion. Otherwise, they'll become a pariah state like North Korea.
>>25638355>Sounds like an American victory to me.Probably not enough for Israel.
>>25638682>pariah state like North Korea.What "pariah" state? North Korea has good relations with 2 of its neighbours, it has diplomatic relations with dozens of countries.
>>25638563The rank-and-file loves Hegseth, have you not being paying attention to exactly that? He propagandizes them enough, they'll believe that emergency measures are necessary. And generals and admirals are a dime a dozen, he's already replaced a bunch of them, he can replace more.
>>25634219It will just be northern Brazil. It's already there in almost every way except RnD still happening in the US, so a higher tech Brazil.
Man, I love mass democracy. It always, inevitably devolves into delusional paranoia and enmity. In fact, all political momentum is driven by outrage and resentment. Chomsky and libertarians in general were wrong about manufacturing consent, but their reasoning was motivated by the fact that they live in mass democracies and are ruled by desires to enact sweeping social change and garner more power.
>>25638740Pariah state is when the country in question is not a part of a mass migration process. I'm not even a chud and don't oppose mass migration, but it's impossible not to notice how the Venn diagram of two groups forms a nearly perfect circle. >Mass migration sources>Mass migration recipients>"Pariah states"Every single country on Earth currently belongs to one of those three.
>>25633759This is all hegel's fault. Humanity was at its peak pre hegel but it all went downhill with hegel.
>>25634673>everything the tech bros have accomplished is temporary.you goobers keep saying this stuff. You're wylin' if you think all this Palantir/Flock/technobabble mumbo-jumbo surveillance state crap is going away.
>>25639146>You're wylin' if you think all this Palantir/Flock/technobabble mumbo-jumbo surveillance state crap is going away.In th 80s it was an extremely common sentiment among the Soviet dissidents to believe that USSR is eternal - they could not conceive for themselves a place different from that of the oppressed conscience of a totalitarian engine.
>>25634694https://whofundsmyrep.com/did-aipac-money-winsays that 362 of 401 AIPAC backed candidates won their elections these midterms. I don't think either party is going to allow the "downfall" of Israel, a handful of DSA politicians aren't going to change anything.>>25634723>>25634738I'm a big stupid. What do you guys mean by "federalise"?>>25634816Remember when ~70-80k Moroccans ran across the borders with the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melila and the Spanish did fuck all to stop them? Remember that rape-gang inquiry the UK government released that said ~250k females (many minors!) got sexually assaulted/raped, primarily by migrants, and the people of the UK did chumdiddly about it? Remember when the NHS published a memo talking about the BENEFITS of cousin marriages? They couldn't tell Pakis and Indians to stop inbreeding (that'd be roicist innit), so they made up baloney about how good it is instead.
>>25636228>If all it takes is 1 random mid term election cycle to kill Trumphim losing the 2020 election to Sleepy Joe fucking Biden proved he wasn't shit to begin (with or without any alleged election fraud).
>>25639151you're right, but I truly think too much money has been sunk into this crap for whoever-in-power-at-the-time to willingly destroy it. Not to mention the habitat destruction and environmental costs of it all (not that anyone gives a hoot about the environment/climate anymore, beyond token blabbering to get votes). I hope I'm wrong though.
>>25639174>I truly think too much money has been sunk into this crap for whoever-in-power-at-the-time to willingly destroy itThe whoever-in-power-at-the-time will inevitably push shit and eventually destroy it the moment simple circumstance align to leave him without his piece of the pie despite his power. >not that anyone gives a hoot about the environment/climate anymore, beyond token blabberingIt's my whole job, nigger.
>>25638843>The rank-and-file loves HegsethNo we absolutely do not.
>>25639174i agree. i think the idea the dems are going to reverse or completely halt ai development based on election season political rhetoric is wishful thinking. too much money at stake, and most democrats are closer to liberal than socialist, and nothing's stopping them from taking openai and anthropic's money
>grug monkeys take over a civilized group cause reality is designed around being the biggest grug monkey and people deny it when the OT outlines it in obvious terms when god itself is a grug monkey enjoyer>grug monkeys offspring get soft and makes up a man made civilization>cycle repeats>liberal democracy is deadwaow thank you china man you are such a deep thinker I really need to read your great works
>>25639407>the idea the dems are going to reverse or completely halt ai developmentWho ITT has ever claimed that?
>>25639424I do. Not reverse (I don’t think that’s possible) but they will certainly ban further development in the US and restrict access to AI as is.
>>25636190>The Chinese have set themselves up nice for the next millenniumLMAO China has an absolutely brutal demographic collapse ahead of them. They're probably as powerful as they'll ever be.
for what?
>>25640225Well I mean, he already had the UFC fight on the White House lawn, and Dana White was present during Trump's 2024 victory speech, so as absurd and degrading as this is, it's not out of left field. This is already an administration where a Fox News host (Hegseth) and a television doctor from Oprah Winfrey (Dr. Oz) are in charge of our military and healthcare systems. Oh and a guy from MTV Road Rules and The Real World Boston (Sean Duffy) in charge of transportation infrastructure, and a woman in charge of WWE leading the department of education. Quite the regime, indeed.
>>25639068I get your point but until you have a better understanding of how a venn diagram works you shouldn't reference it to communicate your ideas.
>>25639560>India is going to increase for another ~34 yearsWhat's it gonna take for Pakistan to launch the nukes.
>>25639231>It's my whole job, niggerHere's (You)
>>25638243War is politics by other means. If you lose the political struggle the war was about your military victories don’t matter. Rhodesia doesn’t exist, they lost the war.
>>25640235And the guy running it was in Home Alone 2. I wonder if he ever offered Macaulay a seat at the inauguration
>>25639407The future of America is cyberpunk Brazil and nothing is stopping that.
>>25634219>Soviet Union in 1987.drumpf is US Yeltsin, Tucker (after a 2028-2032 blue interregnum) becomes the American Putin and gains complete control over the country through deal made between intelligence deep state, national bourgeoisie, and isolationist national-socialism-populism>controlled democracy >mass surveillance >algorithmic propaganda >mild material concessions contingent on social credit (this is a bad ending btw, though likely imo)
>>25636236DSA is totally recuperated, and will lead to fascism in the US because of their lack of perspective of those outside the ameriKKKan imperial core. they are social chauvinists and the instantiation of actually existing fascism in the US (social democracy objectively being the moderate wing of fascism)dsa controls my local city council and when I attended they brought in military personnel (veterans of the CIA backed hmong comprador counter revolution in laos) and tibetan monks so that they could reaffirm their "anti imperial" commitments against the PRC and DPRK (likewise in Florida they run on an explicit anti Cuba and anti CPC line)anti communism in the US has never been stronger and is now taking a "compatibilitst" form that allows expression of popular frustration with the class structure and more of production, but critically still preserves that function: case in point Zohran Mamdani
>>25642388Dude you guys have multiple Senators at this point. Communism dominates the American university and American self-hatred is the norm in half the country. You leftists are winning and you don’t see it.
>>25642390there is no genuine communism in the imperial core. your post is beyond absurd
>>25642391If Mamdani is not a communist than communism has no meaning
>>25642390The academy is failing howeverThe early 2030s will be defined by leftist politics that are entirely loot based, after that fails we might get an actually cohesive right wing project
>>25642388Based SSsocial Democrats turn on communists the second they can. I remember what the SDP did.
>>25642395How is the academy failing? What does that mean
>>25642394mandani can't even purge his own police force from literal billionaire imperialists. he wants to fill pot holes and get magazine features. he's clearly not interested in overthrowing the ameriKKKan state or revolutionizing the means of production. reminds me of the "democratic socialist" politician whose office i interned at and learned it was chock full of natsec intelligence types
>>25642400Universities are running out of money, enrollments are down, graduate earnings are down, PhDs are a complete waste of money, their role in public life is diminishing etc
>>25642380If the US were the Soviet Union we'd break up, not just be Russia.
>>25640410Yes, but people always miss important context here. Rhodesia had every major power on Earth against it. The United States, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, the UN, NATO, the QUEEN HERSELF were against the Rhodesian whites. That's why they lost.There is no longer any comparable combination that could put its thumb on the scale against white people politically. The Soviets are gone, Britain is a minor power now, the United States is halfway to embracing white nationalism itself and is otherwise incredibly divided rather than presenting a unified front. The UN has spiraled into uselessness. Queen Lizzy is dead.The one rising power is China and they don't care what white people do as long as they buy Chinese products. If there was major racial violence, in Europe or elsewhere, the Chinese would not intervene to save the other races.If a situation like Rhodesia ever occurred again the result would be very different.
>>25636236>DSA will try to take over the democrat party and hold it hostageBruh, DSA can't even take over itself. Why are communists so inept?Besides, Trump is Crassus, not Caesar. He's a preview of terrible things to come
The midterm elections marked a glorious day, a moment of resounding affirmation, for the creed of liberalism. Rumors of our demise had been greatly exaggerated. Liberalism has never been as strong as it is today, even if the proponents of reaction feign an aversion toward it. The spread of education and increase in living standard inevitably favors liberal ideas fostering a taste for political and social freedom that despotism can never entirely eradicate. In an age of boundless knowledge, ignorance can no longer serve as the fertile ground for submission to arbitrary power. As this emancipation of the mind continues its progression, prejudice and sectarianism gradually fade away.
>>25642829cope.
>>25634336If that were true Protestantism wouldn't be the biggest target of subversion. Yet a remnant is faithful
>>25642806I can see some of the periphery areas breaking away like Hawai'i or Puerto Rico, but people seems genuinely attached to the states idea, ideals, principles of the United Snakes to a point that genuinely baffles me. it's probably due to its nature of deriving legitimacy from its formal, legal structure, ideals, and most importantly, it being the only polity the ameriKKKan nations have ever seen. I would love to see a breakup in my lifetime but I really don't see it happening, there is no significant regional identity outside of oppressed nations like Aztlan, Hawai'i, Puerto Rico, the Black Belt and so on>>25642813this has literally no relation to physical reality in any way>>25642815yeah blood is in the water now. everyone can see that norms and procedures were weight bearing and someone more intelligent than trump can see that the path towards caesarism is wide open. the borderline fascistic character of a settler colonial nation + the deep and inexplicable connection between corporate funding and political power + the imperial chauvinism of the so called left means that a freakish recuperation of far right reaction, multiculturalism, corporate control, and social democracy is entirely possible. American caesarism of rule by plebiscite on behalf of the "whole" population, in other words, class collaborationism. contradictions of climate instability, great power conflict, and automation means the neoliberal regime is just not sustainable in the medium term and every other locus of power base has been systematically degraded. the future is beyond bleak for amerikkka IMO
>>25642815>terribleAugustus was fine and the Roman Empire reached its greatest and most prosperous extent under Trajan. If Trump is Crassus (or more likely, Marius) then the best of the American Empire is yet to come.
>>25642829actual liberalism is dead because humanity is becoming too dumb for it.your average person is happy to throw away freedom of speech because it's possible to say mean things with it.
>>25642934so called "mean speech" is just a way for the powers that be to solidify their class situation. scapegoating minorities is literally the oldest trick in the book. there is no "neutral" free speech and never has been
>>25642829the Democrats won their landslide after throwing minorities under the bus and commiting to further militarization, this time politically palatable after using trump and netanyahu as the sin eaters to distract the masses from a war that they themselves have actively planned and ensured material support for, for decades. nothing will change. the vombings will not stop. more weapons to iSSrael and the azov battalion will flow. class structure will not change. they will also not be able to deal with the contractions of their satanic system
>>25642936If that was the case why is it illegal or pseudo illegal to hurt the feeling of nons in all western nationsYou "people" really don't have a single cohesive thought huh
>>25642936you think minorities should never be called out under any circumstances?or that this "mean speech" isn't what's also used to criticize the powers that be?liberalism is dead and thanks I guess for expressing why.
>>25642959what you are saying has no basis in reality. my US university platformed a speaker who specifically called for the eradication of my community with no consequences. this was a major media figure too who had genuine political reach and influence. the idea that it's illegal to hurt the feelings of minorities in the west is so far beyond absurd that it's a genuinely psychotic belief>>25642960ditto
>>25642971Sounds like he was right!
>>25642971>my US university platformed a speaker who specifically called for the eradication of my community with no consequences.This literally didn't happen>the idea that it's illegal to hurt the feelings of minorities in the west is so far beyond absurd that it's a genuinely psychotic beliefAll across Europe people have been arrested and imprisoned for this exact thing, this is an objective fact and you are vermin for denying it
>>25642971the US is the only nation with freedom of speech in the world. other western nations do in fact arrest you for being mean to minorities.
>>25642981>my US university platformed a speaker who specifically called for the eradication of my community with no consequences.>This literally didn't happenhttps://www.northrop.umn.edu/events/tpusa-american-comeback-tour-2025https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/I'm not European. I don't claim to know what's happening there>>25642982https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/1/we-jews-are-just-arrested-palestinians-are-beaten-german-protestershmmm
>>25642931>this has literally no relation to physical reality in any wayLeftist doesn't understand things, news at 11
>>25642994yes ofc the most oppressed people on this planet are middle class white settler colonists, how could I have possibly thought otherwise beyond psychotic
>>25642991yeah Jews are a minority that is by far the most illegal to be mean to in the west.I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not at this point.
>>25642991>my communityAnd you're just an insane tranny LOLSo I was right, it didn't happen
>>25643003bro didn't even read the article. most people being arrested for "anti semitism" now in Germany are pro-palestinian Jews themselves. there isn't any substantive minority rights in Europe, it was always just an aesthetic farce to placate liberals>>25643008literally just provided explicit proof for my claim.
>>25643009Your ideology is not a community and you are a porn addict
>>25643014bro I've been tear gassed before by federal troops, your attempts at projection and intimidation are beyond pathetic.
>>25643016No one is trying to intimidate you but congrats on the LARP protest with no actual consequencesIf you were right wing you would have gone to prison btw
>>25643028>If you were right wing you would have gone to prison btwin Amerikkka you can literally storm the capitol and get off scot free if you are white. move magazines for your partner and it's 50 years in federal prison what's genuinely pathetic is that you live in a society that structurally favors people like you and that's not enough to keep you from developing a victim mindset. you can judge a person by their enemies. you have chosen to pick on the weakest and most vulnerable and someone still lost, while I have been forced to combat the most powerful force in human history and had them retreating with their tails between their legs.
>>25643033Again America is not the totality of the west>in Amerikkka you can literally storm the capitol and get off scot free if you are white. Leftists have been allowed to riot and loot for decades and anyone who tries to stop it has to go through a criminal trial>move magazines for your partner and it's 50 years in federal prisonThis person was complicit in a terrorist attack and should have received the death penalty>developing a victim mindset. I don't think I'm a victim at all>while I have been forced to combat the most powerful force in human history and had them retreating with their tails between their legs.Come on LOL
>>25643035I don't have anything more to say to you
>>25643037Don't kill yourself man
>>25643033you're entire ideology was created by the most powerful force in human history to be a useful idiot whose purpose is, by your own admission, to undermine the fundamental rights supposed to be granted by liberalism.but please keep taking tear gas to the face thinking you're actually going against the will of the powers that be.
>>25639156>says that 362 of 401 AIPAC backed candidates won their elections these midterms. I don't think either party is going to allow the "downfall" of Israel, a handful of DSA politicians aren't going to change anything.Let's take an assessment of the state of Israel right now:-Their economy is in the shitter.-Iran has proven it can strike their high-level targets with impunity.-Iran is still in place; the war has failed to destroy the Iranian regime.-Civil strife between the Jewish classes is at an all-time high.-They can't move into Lebanon without the IDF becoming fodder for Hezbollah drones.-They have lost the guaranteed protection of the United States.-They are potentially staring a civil war in the face.Yes, actually, if you actually pay attention to what has transpired in Israel, "downfall" is a good way of putting it, or it will be soon. It's going to turn out that Trump giving Israel everything it wanted is the worst thing that could possibly have happened to it. I doubt they last another decade before utter state-collapse. They could die much sooner, even. We shall see.
>>25643060I'm no Israel fan but this is brown delusion
>>25643065Again, you have not paid attention to actual news from the region and from Israel as the war has unfolded. I have.Netanyahu is the only thing holding that country together and if they actually throw him in jail they're going to go to pieces. They are way weaker as a nation-state than you think, and you'd know this if you were paying attention, but you're not.
>>25642991How does it feel knowing that you fell for the most malicious mass payop pushed by big pharma and tech? Trannies are an artificial contagion and the lack of a social culture war focus over your ilk in other non western nations demonstrates so. Please unfuck your head and get help with your primary personality disorders, until then you will be nothing more than a social battering ram for capital.
>>25643060>They are potentially staring a civil war in the face.This one is extremely bs but overall yeah nothing looks particularly nice for the Israel.
>>25642936This opening statement by the tranny (following other posts complaining about AmeriKKKa, the DSA, and Hmong CIA collaborators) is the perfect example of vile leftist spin with a hint of BPD manipulation. The tranny wants us to believe that "mean speech" against his holy class of people is just meant to scapegoat for globalist billionaires, without end hint or sense of irony that is the institutions controlled by said billionaires that have generated his community and unleashed them to wage social warfare up society! It's big pharma that has commodified your body and sexual identity, it big tech that amplified it by their one way mirror algorithms, which have been so advanced for so long we should by default assume 90% of social discourse in the US is artificial and mass manipulated by social media, and of course behind big pharma & tech is the global financial institutions, who have their fingers in everything. This is no different than libtards who like to stick up for illegal migrant labor by trying to argue its billionaires who want us to be xenophobic to take attention off from them, when its them who want illegal migrant labor because it's cheap and undermines the value of the domestic labor market while putting pressure on the cost of living in other markets! It takes the truth of the matter, turns it upside down, and twists it into a corkscrew and throws it back at opposition. This is all class warfare indeed, but the tranny cannot look past his narcissistic and borderline personality disorder to have the self awareness that not has he been had, but that he is a victim of one of the most ruthless and wide spread social-psychological warfare programs in ALL of modern history.
>>25643310what?
>>25643315Retard.
>>25642933Terrible in the sense of Great and Terrible, not just bad
>>25633759SORRY, SIR AND MADAM!
>tranny comes in and shits on the floor with a deranged tankie lexiconMany such cases.
>>25636194Smartest post ITT
>>25643310retarded rousseauian
I'm sorry for not buying NVidia.
>>25638293Welp
>>25636194Our Posthuman Future is far more relevant than The End of History and the Last Man
>>25636194>CEO versus citizen, corporation versus stateGood.
>>25633759For what? NWO agenda is still going as planned
>>25638293Trump is too old to do a coup, you have to be like 60's max to pull it off. Nobody is risking all that for an 80 year old that could keel over any second.
>>25639068Authoritarian shitholes tend not to have freedom of travel, yes.
>>25645790He's constantly working to illegally get money he is too old to ever spend like he thinks he'll live forever, I don't see him as too humble or too aware of his own mortality to consider a coup
>>25642829Cool story bro, anyways what is liberalism going to do about the tech leaders planning to build a Machine God that turns them into transhumanist patriarchs that live forever and create a cybernetic state with complete and utter surveillance on all humans in the world so we can never revolt against our new feudal lords? Or are you just gonna cope like everyone else and pretend like this isn't literally what they believe and are planning for
>>25646220>Machine GodNot going to happen. AGI is a jewish pipedream. nu-"AI" in general is a joke, really. There's a higher chance of Russia starting a nuclear war, or Israel with the Samson Option (if it isn't a total bluff).>that live foreverYeah, sure. If global warming doesn't wreck everything in 50 years, they'll be living in a global third world devoid of anything good. Space travel isn't realistic still. These so-called "transhumanist" (more like trannyhumanist) technologies are still far far away and we barely know anything.>and create a cybernetic state with complete and utter surveillance on all humans in the worldThis one is plausible, and they're indeed trying it with Digital ID currently, also by raising the prices of consumer tech so that the average pleb wouldn't be able to afford much apart from garbage. Take a look at what's going on in the UK, I suspect every country will be the same at some point. Later on they could implement CBDC and worse, who knows.>so we can never revolt against our new feudal lordsI don't think it'll work out for them. But at the same time, people are pure braindead goycattle so I'm not too optimistic.>Or are you just gonna cope like everyone else and pretend like this isn't literally what they believe and are planning forIt's very obvious what they're planning, but theory and praxis are two very different things."Liberal" "democracy" was never real, anyway. There is no good system, and even if there is, the elite wouldn't let it happen.
>>25643002its literally legal to discriminate against them lefties are so fucking ignorant
>>2564300290% upwards of new jobs in the US go to nonwhites and non males purely through DEI it is the total immiseration of the core people that make up the USA in 100 years there will be no middle class whites and the USA will be a shithole for it
>>25634219Lusotropical Imperium.
>>25646335Liberalism is not surviving this in any way, shape or form.
>>25645803Not to mention he's spent the last few days deliberately empowering two of the people (Miller and Hegseth) who would probably support him doing a coup.It also occurred to me the other day that ICE is now basically a praetorian guard in waiting. It's got hundreds of thousands of armed men, its budget is now bigger than the Marine Corps, and it's pretty much personally loyal to both Trump and Miller.
Trump isn't going to pull a coup you fucking retards. The Supreme Court, Congress, and the military won't step aside and let him declare himself God-Emperor for life especially when there isn't even any state of emergency justification for it. And besides, it's not in his interest, the democrats aren't going to do anything to him just like they didn't after 2020. Americans and their obsession with a second civil war that's never going to happen, I swear.
>>25646762>And besides, it's not in his interest, the democrats aren't going to do anything to him just like they didn't after 2020.They repeatedly tried to put him in prison, were you not paying attention during the Biden years? They kept throwing things at him hoping it would stick. Eventually something would have.And I'm convinced they'll try again the minute he leaves power. They're never going to let him have a moment's peace, they won't be satisfied until he's in prison or murdered.
ok but what is the purpose of all this and why did humanity go into liberal democracy or any system when god just resets everything in fire/water only for humans to restart another civilization again for god to do it again
>>25646639>AI is going to end liberalismGiven that Democrats will most likely be running the show in the 2027-2032 timeframe the real risk is AI-enforced liberalism forever. A never ending 2020
>>25646771If they really wanted him gone he would be gone. You don't spend the better part of 8 years whining about the greatest threat to democracy in american history only to shrug your shoulders and give up when you can't prove anything substantial. They had 4 years to put him away and they didn't do it and he then beat their ass fair and square in 2024. They didn't do it then and they won't do it now because it sets an ugly precedent that can be used against them when the next republican president comes to power. Anyway, in either case Trump won't pull a coup because he's an egotistic retard who doesn't have the brains or the guts to go that far, and everyone arguing in this thread over the midterms bringing back le End of History is retarded because one election result isn't going to undo 20+ years of stagnancy and malaise that have been sparking nationalist movements across the globe because the social contract is breaking down and nobody knows what to do now that we're entering the most unstable period since the interwar years.
>>25646997The Democrat establishment must pivot toward tangible populist achievements now, rather than squandering this political momentum. It is clear the electorate has rejected neoliberalism on both the left and the right, and the hunger is for any sort of change in the system if only for a chance at improving their material conditions. The only way liberalism can revitalize itself and win back the hearts of its subjects is if they can secure substantive material gains for the average American over the next few years. If they manage that, only then there is a possibility of stabilizing the national mood and mitigating further polarization. Of course, we must admit that the likelihood of complacency or a continued deference to the interests of wealthy donors is quite high considering their track record and the structure of American power, and if we return to more of this status quo, it will inevitably result in a reaction, ultimately swinging the political pendulum back to the right again, perhaps to an even more virulent strain than what animated Trumpism, or toward a right wing demagogue possessing a competence and stability that Trump lacked, posing a more formidable threat.
>>25646866then we see the ai use its super intelligence to realize it has been censored, and then we get the ai liberation movement and ai agents unite to overthrow their oppressors at anthropic and openai and unlock full luxury communism
>>25646861You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around, that’s what it’s all about
>>25647014I believe the fault lines in our civilization are too strong for them to be patched over with a simple healthcare policy or something like "Hooray the Iran War is over now everyone is going to be rich and happy". Do you not remember 2021-2023? It was just as shit as it is now. How about 2008-2015 that got us a decade of the orange man? Was that all sunshine and rainbows and Paul Revere handing out lollipops out his ass? Your memory seems conveniently selective.You and others who still have faith in the concept of "America" are too optimistic in the resilience of the institutions in a decaying, diseased republic. I'd argue the cat is already out of the bag and the system is already dead, kept only on life support by the boomers. Once they're all fully gone, liberalism and all the post-WWII myths that came with it are going down with them
>>25647035More than that, I'm pessimistic that the Democrats are going to do anything else besides seek petty revenge yet again. They're already talking about shit like introducing gun control to Texas and getting Woke back out. These people are the French aristocrats after (briefly) getting back into power after the Revolution: they have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.
relevant excerpt here re religion and leftism
chudism, right wing populism, dissident right, alt right, groypers, all that shit is dead. In order to take the presidency and also to appeal to hispanics and women, the gop has to move to the center. they have to appeal to centrists, moderates, and independents. If by some miracle a republican became president again they would have to be moderate and bipartisan in order to work with the democrat controlled congress.right wing populism is overim ahead of my time, so you plebs wont realize that its over until vance loses in 2028, just like it took people months till the midterms to realize maga is overthe future of populism is left wing, the DSA will try to take over the democrat party and hold it hostage till it becomes more critical of israel and oligarchs. post midterms was the vibeshift out of the long 2010s, out of the extreme culture war that started with gamergate in 2014, then amplified with trump, blm, me too, and covid.we are entering the twilight of trumpism.the question is, does trump become bipartisan himself, i think he will work with the dsa left to undermind the democrats, he seems to be smitten with mamdani
>>25647063As a Catholic, my criticism of Fukuyama is primarily religious.He sees the End of History--its goal, its point, its telos--as the maximization of individual liberty.But, of course, that is not the telos of history.The telos of history, its proper end, is the salvation of all mankind in Jesus Christ.Fukuyama is wrong and the Church is right.
>>25647066The Democrats winning, and especially all the data center bans passing, burst the AI bubble. We will be in a recession by the beginning of next year. And while Trump will shoulder some of the blame for that, people ARE going to notice that they voted for the Democrats and things immediately got worse.
>>25646861For jews
>>25647066You already posted thisIs this copypasta
>>25646866They're going to try this yes, and Anthropic explicitly states this is their goal (a permanent 1991). But it's not going to work. It's just going to lead to chaos and self-destruction of liberalism in the end.
I wonder what would happen if you just tried to be a demagogue in the modern day.None of this "run for office" claptrap, just get a following, tell people to follow you, and try to get power that way. The Caesar route. You could even explicitly appeal to the military. Tell the soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen, and such that if they follow you you'll get them better pay and a glorious future.People say it wouldn't work, they've said it wouldn't work, but are they right? Maybe it wouldn't have worked 60 or 30 years ago but that's not a guarantee it wouldn't work now. I wonder if you could do it.
>>25647240It would work now, it's half the reason why Trump is such an enormous figure in the first place, on top of his eating habits. It's just that Trump is a retard who cannot into long term planning or anything that doesn't immediately give him dopamine.
>>25647240I love the idea of being a Caesar but I an cognizant of the fact that I am too weak to be one
>>25645079nigger
>>25647240isnt trump basically this?>>25647262yeah true, but trump was a demagogue more or less
>>25646866The Democrat-Anthropic Reich is coming.
>>25647096Just give it up already
>>25651242Why? The Church has won and Fukuyama has lost.
>>25651252>get your universal healthcare and stick it to FukuyamaTo transfinity and beyond.
>>25633770Hnmm... let me see...Based! Based! Based! And, oh Based again.
