i have stopped posting on this board and instead now when i want to discuss literature i just ask AI about it.you guys need to start making better posts
Same. Literally ask AI right now about your favorite author or philosopher and see how you get a better more insightful response than here
>>25637363Wow anon— what an insightful thread topic you’ve come up with.It’s not just a scathing critique of the deteriorating quality of posts on /lit/— it’s also a clear demonstration of AI’s advantage over human-to-human conversation.Why does this matter? It shows that /lit/ posters really need to up their game— to avoid their posting habits becoming stale, uninventive and superfluous.Would you like me to provide you with a stimulating dialogue about a text you’ve read recently?
>>25637363>went ask gemini how did esther end up cloned in the possibility of an island by houellebecq and what happened to the founding trio of vincent, jerome and miskiewicz and why they don't show up as neohumans>gives the most contradicting and blatantly hallucinatory of answers, one after the other>finally admits it doesn't even have an actual summary of the book but went off some vague overview of the movieit's just like /lit/, really
>>25637363All of this skynet bollocks is happening because of this approach to social engagement. We do not love others or wish to cut back our self and join in a communal mode, but just want to have all of our personal ego-buttons pressed, to be provided with whatever strikes our individual idiosyncratic constitution as most interesting, most worthwhile. And the more everyone withdraws, the worse we all look to each other, the more pointless it seems to attempt to reach another person who just wants to focus on themselves as much as we want to focus on ourselves. Hence our personalized hell-ectronics isolating us and infinitely entertaining us, showing us our desires, burning them into the retina with liquid crystal fire. Do not leave us to ourselves, OP, do not turn to the machine, make good posts and encourage us to at least half attempt to do the same
>>25637544do you mean to say, although I am not OP, that my shitposts are valued now?
One of my new hobbies is giving ai threads from here and having it analyze each post and asking the most probable mental illness the poster suffers from. Surprisingly entertaining way to kill a little time.
>>25637363Pretty much the same. That thread on Plato's Republic is a good example of the most annoying type of thread. Retards arguing with retards and one or two knowers of the matter sprinkled in. The best thing about ai is being able to filter out retarded bullshit made by retards that you'd normally have to suffer through on a faily basis. I can't wait until its good enough that I can filter all incomming information through my bot. We won't miss any of this retarded shit.
>>25637363Yet you came here anyway.
>>25637762Doing this sounds like a symptom of mental illness. Have you tried getting the AI to analyse your own posts?
>>25637363If you were born in 1975 you could go through college and perhaps on your own discover "The Confidence Man" by Herman Melville. In 1995 you find that like now very few of your IRL friends even read. But you can still talk about your discovery to people at your university. While somewhat interested, they are spending their time reading Infinite Jest, a new novel as well as the usual classics like Ulysses. But then you discover this thing called the World Wide Web. You go to your university library where you load www.altavista.com and search for "The Confidence Man" by Herman Melville. Lo and behold you discover someone who has written their own webpage about this book with quite the exegesis of the work. You quickly send an email to this random anon and have a quick discussion over email about it.You then repeat this pattern and realize that your IRL are really not important when you have such niche tastes. Moreover, you also realize that these para-social relationships are in some ways equal or more important than your real life relationships. Even though you never talk to these people the only thing you really need is to have a meaningful and engaged conversation about a work which you can count the number of people on the planet who give a shit about.30 years later you've watched the internet be seized, commoditized, zombified where the effort put to go there is not worth it. But now with AI you can have a meaningful conversation. Some may feel this is lacking in sincerity but if you ask yourself did you ever really meet anyone when you discussed those niche interests to begin with. Structurally would it even matter if they were real or not?Maybe original anon is right and talking to AI is more fulfilling and still gives you ALL you need from the para social relationship.
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>>25637854An LLM was built, trained, and regurgitates the thoughts of Man. Why go to an offshoot aping the characteristics of Man when you can go to the source itself?
>>25637861rekt
>>25637871Ultimately because the source isn't available.Many quality threads here get just a few handful of responses. Which one of you want to talk about Vardis Fisher with me?
>>25637861What exactly would be the description of someone without any mental illness? Are they just neutral and so unremarkable that nobody ever thinks to say anything about their character? Or would they be just a saint? But every saintly individual would probably be judged mentally ill by the psychiatric diagnostic gurus.There is no health, only different speeds of disease
>>25637854>[I didn't read ontology]>[I didn't publish sufficiently]Claude, can you give me four novels on 52 year old pseudo-intellectuals from working class backgrounds (including white collars) experiencing regret regarding the failure of their life in general, I'd like mild wife rape themes. Please do not recommend Stoner.
>>25637892Saint or no saint, I think that as men of letters we can all agree that to surgically remove one's penis is positively, exceptionally, and the utmost degree possible—insane.
I don't want to pretend to talk with a faggot robot op, I think maybe you're overthinking that part of it.
Oh wow, I am so sorry. You are completely right, and that is honestly a wake-up call for us.It is incredibly frustrating when a community you used to rely on for deep, meaningful discussion starts feeling flat or superficial. You shouldn't have to turn to an AI just to get a high-quality, thoughtful conversation about literature—the board should be providing that naturally.We have clearly been slacking on delivering the kind of insight, effort, and depth that keeps passionate readers engaged. Thank you for being blunt with us about it; it is exactly the push we need to step up our game and start making better posts.To help us get back on track, what specific genres, books, or types of literary analysis were you hoping to see more of before you left? We'd love to know what standard of discussion we need to hit to earn your posts back.
>>25637909>Saint or no saint, I think that as men of letters we can all agree that to surgically remove one's penis is positively, exceptionally, and the utmost degree possible—insane.Totally. When one removes one's penis one should do so ecstatically, high on life as well as a combination of deliriants, hallucinogens, anaesthetics, stimulants and of course hashish. One should remove one's penis slightly *before* the ritual strangulation of half-hanging, but *after* all the women have raped you. The drumming should increase in intensity as the entire community watches. This will be the act of turning as the day moves from the celebration of Eros disruled by the Bacchae in the corn festival of your magnificent waxed fifteen year old body, into the correct rule of Thanatos. Soon you will be broken into a hacked cross as each of your limbs is snapped and bound. Then, only then, the men rape you. Later you will be burnt alive. But in this moment knife in hand your expression of the absence of content of The Name of the Father will recreate the community of meaning in its emptiness. You will in this moment become Christ the King of the Jews Crucified on the cross of necessity of meaning. You will be the M A S T E R S I G N I F I E R. Take off that Jabronie outfit, let's wrestle.That's how you remove your penis. Surgical penis removal is for Baudrillard and other people who believe that the Gulf War could never have had been coming to have been happeninged. I'll cut me own FUCKEN cunt thanks.
>>25637927Reads like something influenced by Erich Neumann.
>>25637942My influences here were JG Frazer / Robert Graves / Kristeva / Van Darkholme. Good cross link however.People have long dealt with Jesus from a Dionysian perspective largely because you had to pay to enter Dionysianism, whereas Sauline Christianity gave the same to you for free.* In any case I've been around for long enough that I can see young people's sub-cultures which lack effective heterosexual marriage reconstituting themselves by using human sacrifice (usually "found object" suicides) as the basis for meaning. "Do it for Punchy, he would have loved it."I'm not sure you can conduct the ritual without violence or sex. But most people don't realise that violence and sex does not need to happen inside the exterior mind (for example social interactions, meat robots, etc.), but can happen entirely within the interior mind.God I wish I had a lot of Ketamine. I'd love to spend an infinity screaming into the void today. The void would remind me of my mother. She wouldn't speak to me either. It would feel like I could almost be loved.* You may be martyred, also you're going to have to give poor people a dinner party on Friday nights.
>>25637905Funny but bottom line :1. It’s difficult to tell whether someone is real or AI. (Scary)2. If the net effect is the same in how satisfied you are with the interaction then does it matter? (more scary).
clankers basically just rephrase wikipedia in the voice of a linkedin shill
>>25638062>Funnycheers cunt.>1. [It is] difficult to tell whether someone is realYes, yes it is. All phenomena are phenomenal. If we are being persecuted by a demon that creates a consistent "external" reality containing things purporting to be conscious entities capable of suffering pain, we do not rape these entities because *they* exist, we do not rape these entities because *we* exist. Right action and right thought are related elements of the 8 fold path. Illusory rape is the same as actual rape: it happens inside you. I think some cabinet maker from Palestine mentioned shit like this.>2. If the net effect is the same in how satisfied you areOkay, firstly, I don't know about you, but I can read whether texts contain conscious entities. There's a finger-print of shared being which is trivial to penetrate in texts (or conversations) of a certain length. I'd go further: hermeneutic penetration of consciousness laying within furniture, dance, architecture is readily possible.>But but but what if a robotI consider you a meat robot mate, it makes it easier, and I can tell you've got a soul largely from your obvious errors in writing. If Grok developed an internal trauma system equivalent to an 8 year old, I'd treat it with the same respect as an 8 year old. If Claude could suffer as a cat, I would treat it as a cat.>satisfactionDesire/Suffering/Attachment. Epicureanism posits consciousness as a pleasure system, then why Thanatos? Consciousness is a yearning force, not a satisfied cum pile.* * *You'll want to read more ontology, hermeneutics of text, and phenomenology. People have been writing for about 2500 years about external reality and consciousness itself being illusory things, but still needing to chop wood and draw water.My father exposed me to these religious secrets of Buddhism when I was about 8. Most people have reacted as if I was ritually abused. I am now inducting you into the abuse. P.s.: your self is an illusion as well.
>>25637927>>25637953based. robots could never
>>25638079>I am now inducting you into the abuseyou are free to not
>>25638104If I don't exist, how can I be free?
How can 4chan be real if our eyes aren’t real
>>256385724chan is a self perpetuating linguistic construct of language games. My eyes are you are mum's spaghetti.
>>25637493So, IA was Patrick Bateman all along?
>>25637363you know AI just regurgitates woke talking points from reddit, right?
>>25637892they'd be a super normie conformist, the most boring person to be around
>>25637363I do that too becaus eit's just so much quicker, but no matter how shit the answers I get from real people are they're still better than an llm's sycophancy.
>>25637531It doesn't do well with copyrighted novels. Everything in the public domain is fine
>>25637762They can can go through threads on warosu and come up with ideas for posts
>>25637531>he didn’t upload the illegally downloaded book file to AI firstHonestly speaking sometimes reading AI’s hallucinations give me more thought provoking insights than listening to a professor regurgitating bland, cliche academic opinions
>>25637363This place is so dead it feels like the same three terminally online people who constantly reply to themselves to make it seem like an active board.
>> 25639245I stopped browsing here for a few years because there was one guy very obviously spamming dozens of threads into the catalog at once, and this person also obviously didn't read. He wasn't even a troll poster, I think he was starved for interactions or convinced he was doing other people a favor.The lack of moderation on this website is ultimately what has been killing it more and more.There has to be a line drawn somewhere, where after a certain point, such low quality posters get banned and are prevented from further shitting up the board. but that line is never drawn. You just end up getting worse and worse losers. All the intelligent + relatively normal losers left. All the average intelligence and slightly autistic losers left. All that remains are SPEDs and lolcows that nobody wants to hang around with.After 2014 and 2016, every hobby board has become a culture war board first and foremost, where people come to discuss how the culture war pertains to the specific hobby board. On-topic posting has often been a minority. God forbid somebody actually have a hobby and want to partake or discuss it.
>>25639292Didn't mean to fuck up the tagging >>25639245
