He used to be the greatest thinker since Heidegger, now it seems like he’s crashing out
>>25639582got high on culture war sauce from muttmerica ever since he started using xitter
>>25639582Even as a pretty avid reader of Dugin, the amount of actually decent philosophy from Dugin is diminutive, and the amount that made it into translation was even less. Dugin's entire project was a Russian nationalist philosophy which happened to have elements which could be universalized and even then were injected with subtle and not so subtle propaganda. His project actually succeeded in creating a model for the future and predicting the future configuration of states, but the Russian Federation's role as the center of this geopolitical transformation turned out to not be in the form of the foundation of a Eurasian Empire, but rather as the sacrifice to the sad last gasp of American unipolarity.
>>25639582Dugin’s entire oeuvre can be summarized as RUSSIA, YAY! EUROPE BOO! There’s nothing at all interesting in that or a coherent philosophy besides some con man trying to ride off the coat tails of Putin.
>>25639600Dugin was right that the ideologies of modernity are insufficient for a new post-modern world.Dugin was right that through conflict between Eurasia(China and Russia) and NATO that new systems of thought would emerge in their intersection. (Afghanistan, Ukraine, Yemen)Dugin was right that this would be kicked off by Russia invading UkraineDugin was wrong that Soviet Union 2 would appear and conquer Europe, and China would begin to become militarily aggressive as soon as they smelt blood in the water.Russia is revealed as a failed state dying and dragging the post-war order down with it.
>>25639582He was always an idiot. It's a shame that only his daughter got carbombed
>>25639582Didn't he debate Land or something? Anyway, they're both twitterfags so opinion discarded
>>25639582Even if he had been a great thinker in the first place, using social media just means you're inevitably brought down to the level of the discussion in there. An actual great thinker would suffer the same fate.
Why did he do thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n44OF1Y7zgo
>>25639582Read >The Shallows>Superbloomby Carr. Essentially, social media turns you retarded. No matter who you are, or what content you consume. Its is the usage itself that does it.
>>25639829he is reaching susceptible audiences
no one survives twitter brain rot.
>>25639829his funders need him to tap into the gamer/streamer sphere. they need more pawns and biofuel.
>>25639582I dont know or care about Dugim but twitter/online media is something older generations are not always ready for. I remember trolling Steve Sailer (and he does good on twitter) at the marginalrevolution blog and he freaked out and was asking for censorship, it was hilarious. Twitter is or was a very interesting place though
>>25639639>Dugin was right that through conflict between Eurasia... and NATO that new systems of thought would emerge in their intersection. (Afghanistan, Ukraine, Yemen)Sorry what do you mean by "new systems of thought" and why "Afghanistan, Ukraine, Yemen"? Afghanistan and Yemen are both just habibi durka durka.
>>25639860sailer is just crypto-manchildcore
>>25639860Yeah they don't get the theatrical subtle irony aspect of it.
>>25639883Both Afghanistan and Yemen are having to grapple with creating a "Fourth Political Theory" in order to approach the problems of Post-Modernity. Look at Afghanistan, they might lack a more formal and rigorous political philosophy, but in having to meet the demands of governing for their new regime they have created a new philosophy of statecraft which operates on different principles from that which precedes it. You might say that much of this new system is simply an extension of previous ideas, but such can be said about Liberalism, Communism, and Fascism. This is vague, I know, but it sort of has to be generalities because the development of a political theory is not a singular linear process. A crisis exists, the crisis exists in a certain context, the regime adapts to the crisis, and that adaptation shapes the regime. Eventually political philosophers create a coherent view of this regime to retroactively justify it's legitimacy. This is how Liberalism came to be, a dialectical process both within the English state, and within the realm of the philosopher.Ukraine is far more straightforward here. The war created an explosion of Ukrainian political philosophy largely centered around adapting ideas from the Conservative Revolution towards a cohesive Ukrainian political theory. A bitter irony for Dugin is that if the Russians win, the Ukrainian "Fourth Political Theory" will be killed in the womb despite being probably the best example of what he was advocating for.
>>25639582>Dugin>He used to be the greatest thinker since Heideggerkremlinbot HIVan stop shilling this retard. this is ridiculous - "greates thinker" - kek
>>25639829Sneako looks like he lied on a resume to get a job, and now he realizes how badly he fucked up.
>>25639639>Russia is revealed as a failed state dying and dragging the post-war order down with it.They are winning in Ukraine you retard lmao
>>25641661They are going to win in the end, but Russia has been greatly weakened by this war.
>>25639582It's wild how well renowned philosophers can now be said to be crashing out. The Internet is a wonderful invention for making this a reality.
>>25641690>They are going to win in the end, but Russia has been greatly weakened by this war.As someone who has followed the war closely I can tell you that is objectively bullshit:1) The Russian military is much larger in numerical terms than it was in 2022 including both manpower and armored vehicles, this has been confirmed by testimony in the US senate by two separate US generals, namely Christopher Cavoli and Alexus Grynkewich. This is not to even get into their technological advancements spurred by the war.2) The war has barely cost anything in monetary terms, Russia is spending a smaller percent of its GDP on the Ukraine war than the US spent on the Vietnam war3) The sanctions just resulted in a renaissance and huge increase in Russian manufacturing, farming etc as market space opened up for Russian business and producers when Euro imports shrunkEverywhere you look Russia has actually grown stonger
>>25641661Sure thing, Vlad. Two more weeks, right?>>25641690They aren't even going to win in the end. They fucked up royally, and Russia gets what it fucking deserves. Here's hoping total economic collapse and then balkanization and civil war.>>25641711Extreme amounts of copium. Go back to /chug/.
>>25641707>>25639842
>>25639772>Be correct>"He was always an idiot."Newsflash. YOU are the idiot.
>>25639599having twitter is a choice. its called log off
>>25639600he's just a socialist imitation of Ivan Illyn
>>25642557care to explain?
>>25641711We are talking about the big picture here, changes in the very structure of the geopolitic order. Geopolitics (especially in the military side of things) are more about keeping appearances than about managing economy.Who cares if Russia managed to overcome war spending? Its geopolitical position as a post-soviet military boogieman is mostly ruined. Nobody will take them seriously now that they spent 5 years to win a war that should be over in a single month. But don't worry, russiaboo. The US was also morally defeated by Iran too. Multipolar Order will happen anyways, but Russia won't be the big Eurasian Power that Dugin predicted.
>>25641711Ah yes another mong who doesn't into economicsfor 2) Russia shouldn't have been spending anything on wars in the first place3) what do you think they can use that manufacturing capacity of making Pentium 2 tier electronics and missile bodies for if there's no war, numbnuts
>>25639582Back then you had to think carefully before you could write something, as if youre trying to present something to people but with a careful meticulousness; there's a human element like shyness, fear, and doubt in there. These days you can say anything and post anything online without having to think carefully anymore, maybe because everyone did the same thing so the old idea of shame, shy, fear, doubt, they are no longer applicable here. And as you can see, this also corrupt philosopher like dugin and land as well, reducing them into a mere old man who yells at clouds. Loosely speaking, this is what adorno means by slamming your car door is a form of faycism - though i think we can bend around his definition a little bit here
>>25639582Hes atill out there. Pretty sure Haz al Din just had another interview with him.Haz claims Dugin has a rational kernel of how to apply Marxism-Leninism to the west.
>>25642723Is Dugin a Marxist or not?
>>25642723>Dugin>applying Marxism>in the westI thought he hated us? and besides this Slavdemon just probably wants blacks and mestizos to rape us so I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt.
>>25642624>Who cares if Russia managed to overcome war spending? Its geopolitical position as a post-soviet military boogieman is mostly ruined.It's military strength vs NATO has only grown since the war as the Russian military has grown in virtually all categories while the NATO countries gave a huge percentage of their artillery and armored vehicles to Ukraine, where they were eventually destroyed. Russia has never had a greater military superiority over the western powers than it has right now since the height of Soviet military power in the 70's-80's.If anything, it's the US whose military image has been ruined after it was military defeated by Iran in the Persian Gulf.>Nobody will take them seriously now that they spent 5 years to win a war that should be over in a single month.If the NATO powers didn't take Russia seriously, they would have already intervened on the side of Ukraine, they didn't because they were scared off by Russian warnings. Among other vulnerabilities, Russia is capable of striking power plants, oil refineries, military bases, air bases, political centers etc in western countries at will unopposed with the Oreshnik or Zircon, which none of the NATO powers have any counter for that is remotely capable of shooting it down.
>>25639829when is he going to go on sam hyde? he's only 1 step removed, jiang already went on there. i'd legit place a small bet he talks to hyde within the next calendar year
>>25642640One really Powerful thing about Russian politics is that people will tell you everything is fine and getting better / more powerful with a dead-eyed stare as the country just decays around them and not flinch. Another Powerful thing is that they didn't care about excess mortality from COVID, and didn't like Putin imposing COVID restrictions, yet those COVID restrictions stayed anyways to restrict political gatherings from now on. If the U.S. is Starship Troopers for dystopian /lit/ then Russia is the Inhabited Island.
>>25642756No
>>25642760No its taking Dugin's thought and applying to the states.Dugin is an idealist, read his 4th politcal theory, pure ideology.The american people are all idealists.If you apply Dugins idealist thought to the question of how to apply Marxism Leninism, a distinct Russian discovery, to the idealist people of the west.
>>25642001hoping is all you can do, faggot. when your leaders send you to die for nothing, i will send footage of your drone execution to your family and harass them with it every day
>>25639582Yea i mean as long as you cannot tell the difference between a genuine thinker like Heidegger and a retard like Dugin because your only criterion for the greatness of a philosopher is 'says some chud shit i agree with mixed with some cool sounding obscurantist babble' this is going to keep happening. every single right wing """intellectual""" that tries to pull this trick inevitably exposes themselves as absolute retards the second they try to cash in any of their meaningless babble by aligning themselves to actual politics: Jordan Peterson, Dugin, Nick Land, that bronze age faggot, Thiel and his little Moldbugling, >>25639829 this chinese dork whatever tf hes called. just a deeply embarrassing political project all around.
>>25639582When did this board become nothing but twitter screencap threads about retarded has-been philosophers?
Why read Dugin when you can read his Ukrainian bizarro clone? Here is a link:https://warosu.org/lit/thread/25425953
>>25639582His wildberries order got canceled
>>25642640>for 2) Russia shouldn't have been spending anything on wars in the first placeThis is goal-post moving away from the original false claim that Russia was 'greatly weakened', in reality the sums are so little that they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, so the simple fact that the money was spent is not itself 'weakening' Russia.>3) what do you think they can use that manufacturing capacity of making Pentium 2 tier electronics and missile bodies for if there's no war, numbnutsSome of the military factories involved in the war manufacture both civilian/industrial equipment as well as military equipment like tanks and BMPs and simply shifted production from one to the other, this can easily be reversed back the other way.Missile manufacturing goes on constantly even in peacetime and will continue even after the war ends to further build up Russias missile stockpiles, they can easily afford it, their debt-to-GDP ratio is miniscule compared to most western countries.
