thoughts?
That bug lady is a complete midwit https://youtu.be/L7ZhKQOH6G4?t=4083
>>25646883one waste of time deserves another. to be clear, this thread and that book
>>25646893you've never read it, obviously
If that lady got some bangs get views would triple.
>>25646978Many such yellow cases.
White men are to Asian women what black men are to white women
>>25647024But enough about your personal fantasies, Chaim
>prophetically warn Americans about the evils of wokeness decades before wokeness destroys American culture>die from AIDSOuch. Why does G-d do this?
>>25646883>not posting the videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMzBtJheAG0>>25646978>>25647024/pol/>>25647333He was into underage Black rent boys.
Does she mention Bloom was gay and died from AIDS?
Why do right-wingers always act like they're being "persecuted" by academia and the culture industry when their entire MO is to preserve the existing hierarchies and forms of oppression and domination? Right-wing talking heads get funded by the biggest billionaires on the planet. What money does Judith Butler have behind her?
>>25646883She's a neocon now?
>>25647018>stealthily destroys your genepool and turns your kids into gay alien skull mutantsdamn
>>25647341Butler gets CIA funding.
>>25647333>>25647334
How is Bloom's book not just idpol for westerners?
Is she ever going to critique right-wing slop literature?PicRel is from Piercing the Darkness by Frank Peretti, published 1989.
>>25647424>why don't people talk about some random 30 year old airport novel no one has ever heard of?it's a mystery
>>25647333But enough about Foucault
>>25646976You're an idiot, obviously. Where does your line of thinking end? Do you want me to prove it? Waste of time, just like that book.Do you get the fucking joke?
>>25647424Peretti has no influence in 2026. Sally Rooney does. We had an entire thread about this.
>>25646883Haven't and won't watch the videoRead the book earlier this year in fact. I enjoyed the overview of philosophy and it was interesting to read how retarded the students were being during the 60s; besides that, the book was pretty dull
>>25646883>putting a gay, AIDS-ridden Jew on a pedestalWhy are conservatives so hypocritical?
>>25646883Eyebrowless FREAK! Sad!
>House of Leaves fan is a pretentious retardWow. Shocking revelation.
>>25647347kek
>>25647333>>25647335>>25648046There’s actually no evidence Bloom died from HIV. That’s something leftists made up after he died in order to discredit him.
>>25647334>up for one day>102k viewsIs this proof neocons are officially back?
>>25647424>Is le grifter ever going to stop le grift?
>>25647334you can just tell from watching and listening to her that this woman has never had an original thought in her life. she has no mind or consciousness, just a podcast soundboard with buttons she mashes that unveils prefabricated clichés and thought-terminating stop signs.
>>25647341Victimhood is their bread and butter these days. They learned from the so-called Radical Left and now they're applying the same self-entitlement and outrage tactics.
>>25647024Pets? Trinkets? Trophy husbandos? >>25647373It simply is.
>>25648125true but are there any youtubers this doesn't apply to?
>>25646883Why do no right-wing politicians in America ever reference this book when it’s damn well prophetic?
>>25648167>burger politicians>reading a book
>>25647024What about what Black men are to Asian women?
So, does (((Bloom))) ever criticize his own tribe for spreading degeneracy to the West?
Haven’t read this book, but does he ever explain why leftist methods like Marxism are incapable of being a source of moral authority or absolute truth? A lot of rightists claim Marxism inherently leads to moral relativism but never back their claim up.
>>25648185I asked I think five girls what they thought about black people the last time I was in Asia and the responses were all one word responses in the local language. Two words though, which were the rough equivalents to "hideous" and "frightening."
>>25648303Definitely wasn't asking South Korean chicks
>>25648238They never do.
>>25646883You can tell she's been a psycho gf more than once
>My family abandoned me because I voted for the pedophile rapist>Here's 50 minutes of ad hoc content explaining why I'm the victim
>>25646888fpbp, checked, /thread
>>25647373If that’s what you take from it, you’re fully mistaken.Do realize that the West has a very strong tradition of speaking truth to power that you don’t find anywhere else. The prophets of the Bible frequently condemned the city and the city’s rulers for not obeying G-d’s Word. Likewise, think of how Socrates was condemned to death by a democracy for not holding to the gods of the city. Social outsiders who display exceptional morality are upheld as heroes in Western tradition; self-criticism and critique are a major bedrock of the West. Meanwhile, Eastern societies are notoriously conformist and tribal societies are only held together by strict uniformity. Individuals who go against the grain in those cultures are not upheld as agents of morality. Try being anti-convention in a tribal system and they’ll kick you out and let you starve.
>>25648113Lol that ain't true. I like Strauss and the academic Straussians, but Bloom absolutely died of complications from AIDS, whatever Werner Dannhauser might say.
>>25648116Bloom wasn't a neocon, he was a moderate democrat.
>>25648357Why is his work loved by neocons then?
>>25648368Because he complained about universities.
>>25648374A lot of leftists also complain about universities.Ever consider the methodology is the catalyst here?
>>25648116And how many of those “views” are bots or the result if the Jewtube algorithm purposely promoting exclusionary nonsense?
>>25648376I'm starting to consider writing "the methodology is the catalyst" on the piece of cardboard I hold for drivers stopped at the off ramp I beg at.
>>25648368probably because they aren't retards who refuse to read anything that doesn't agree with them completely
>>25648378Straussian cabal is clandestinely puppeteering YouTube, obviously.
>>25647354I triple-dog dare someone to post this passage in the comments section of Joomi’s video.
>>25648397kek
>>25646883Who the fuck is this braindead Orientaloid? I know this bitch is too slow to actually care about anything. I've seen frying pans with more emotion that this flat-faced gook whore. Probably ChatGPT scripts in his vidslops.
>>25648471her vidslops*don't want to misgender anybody
>>25647352>tranny gets money from glowiesthat's the least surprising thing I've heard all day
>>25648181don't be disingenuous you EUtard
>american>reading anything that isn't a doordash menu
>>25648368Is it? Seems like "The Closing" was a hit among conservatives pretty broadly, nothing about it has anything per se to do with Neoconservatism.
>>25647424Wait, so this is supposed to be an attempt at an emotionally-gripping scene and he turns it into a lowkey rant against moral relativism? What?
>>25648355>but Bloom absolutely died of complications from AIDS,What's the evidence?
>e-celeb thread
Are there any good lectures or interviews of Bloom that are worth listening to?
>>25648996The title character from Saul Bellow's final novel Ravelstein is clearly Allen Bloom, who was a close friend of Saul Bellow, both of whom worked at the University of Chicago. Bloom never talked about his private life publicly but he supposedly told Bellow to show everything in his novel. All of the major characters in the novel have very close real world equivalents.
>>25648378It's probably due to hype points or something.
>>25648324Yes. Her cold monotone speech gives it away.
>>25646883She looks and acts like stereotypical asian girl bullied by her parents into supergood student. And now she is upset that some people can have fun.
>>25647333>mfw he pulled a 'Donuts'
>>25648116143k views now.Definitely Indian bots.
>>25647354Why was Bellow so casually racist?
>>25646883Is she familiar with Bloom's neocon partner in crime Harvey Mansfield? He and Bloom would ping-pong their students to each other.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-rixDQM9A
>>25649427Show is called unc knowledgeLet's see how unc this knowledge is, he has a gesture he makes whenever he says "slash" when reading a URL, that's kind of unc already.
>>25647333To troll us.
>>25646883Oh yeah, I got hit by the Al Gore rhythm too.>>25646888She's just a host, a conduit for the books. Does she present them well?>>25646893Hit too close to home, I see.
>>25649249This.
>>25649427>neocon ASMR
>>25646883That book became dated within 20 years of being published. Relativism is hardly a thing at all on modern college campuses. And the forces distracting and undermining student attention are far more powerful yet crude. Did the reviewer ever talk about how rock 'n roll music spoiled potential students of philosophy? Literally like popping a mental cherry. That was weird as fuck, and not enough people talk about that passage.
>>25650098>Relativism is hardly a thing at all on modern college campuses.False, it's just become so ubiquitous that you don't notice.
>>25650098In the era of covid and Trump, it’s the left who are crying about needing objective morality in order to prevent vulnerable demographics from being killed and brutalized. So much word-policing, desire-policing, behaviour-policing, etc. in leftist spaces now under the guise of “inclusion”. Meanwhile, Trumpers act like amoral dipshits because Trump is an amoral dipshit.
>>25650103Not true at all. Modern students are extremely unrelativistic in their commitments and principles. They believe in universal truths and left-wing causes. There is no relativism, except when it is strategically deployed to excuse away poor behavior among protected classes. This isn't the 1960s anymore where "Who's to say?" was a legitimate and chic way of thinking.
>>25650098>That book became dated within 20 years of being published. Relativism is hardly a thing at all on modern college campuses.There's maybe been change in how these things are discussed, but I don't think they've ever gone away, and you can see it in how nominal atheists defend muslims as muslims, the defense of sex work as not to be judged, the sort of dogmatic approach to trans issues, etc. These all presuppose relativism at some juncture on behalf of the value of tolerance, that in some way, from their view, it doesn't matter whether Islam is true or false, or whether sex work is good or bad for both the worker and customer, or whether a trans person is what they say they are or not, as long as a kind of tolerance devoted to certain things is maintained. He seems to have been as prescient as ever in that respect.
>>25646883Didn't watch your shit, Chiangerita and never will. I just wanted to say that I'm probably ten to fifteen years older than you, male and have a fuller head of hair than (You) do. (You) are literally balding (kek!) Also, sage.
>>25647354So not just gay but a pedo too?
>>25650186I explained that here:>>25650144Pretty simple stuff to get.
>>25650186Tolerance is not what they're preaching, since if they were preaching tolerance, they would also be preaching tolerance to expressions of White culture or right-wing politics. Plain and simple, it is simply an attack against Western values and peoples, e.g. Christianity, White people, etc. and the defense of the progressive stack, e.g. brown people, Jews, women, LGBT, etc., in certain prescribed orders. They are very certain that the former is the enemy and the latter is the ally, and that they are on the right side of history and being a heckin' good person. Like I said before, the age of the dispassionate, rational, and intellectually curious relativist has been dead for more than a generation. There are no true relativists left.
>>25648633I think rEUtard sounds better (because I made it up as far as I know :3 ), so please use rEUtard in the future. Thanks!
I don't need youtubers to tell me about politics.
>>25650296Where did I suggest that they were after absolute tolerance? I already said that their tolerance is limited and constrained ("a kind of tolerance devoted to certain things"). Again, they're relativists who hold to tolerance, and they would need to be such in order to maintain their own identities, that's how nominal atheists defend muslims without confronting whether their way or a muslim's way of life is better, and so on with the rest, modulating it according to fashion, whim, and circumstance (as we saw happen during 2020, e.g., "talking about Covid is a dogwhistle against Asians" vs "everyone needs to mask up and be under lockdown"; "you need to follow mandates or you'll be responsible for grandma's death" vs "fuck grandma if she doesn't agree with BLM"; "prisons need to be abolished" vs "people not following the mandates need to be imprisoned").The apparent absolutism is only apparent, it's relative underneath its loud surface.
>>25649308What?
>>25650375I'm pointing out the fact that "tolerance" isn't the value that they prescribe to. It's at best a rhetorical strategy. Nobody actually preaches tolerance, and nobody is ambivalent to what they see as universally good and evil. Thus, we have no relativists today. Unfortunately, you're still stuck in the same boomer era mindset that Bloom (perhaps more justifiably) found himself in 1991, which no longer exists whatsoever. If this is still not making sense to you, then please consider the idea of stated vs. revealed preferences.
>>25649421First time?
>>25647333>>25647334>>25647335>his sexuality discredits himThis is what libshits believe.>>25647373Hardly.
>>25648116>>25648405>tfw we got a Straussian revival before GTA6
>>25650392It's 100% the point of their relativism, because the greatest vice to them is still, as it was when Bloom wrote, to be judgemental and prejudiced, and the greatest harm they feel is to be judged. Nothing has actually changed, even the absolutism you bring up was always old and present as far back as the 60s.
>>25650144>They believe in universal truthsLike what?
>>25647333Good thing he died when he did. Had Bloom survived into old age he would have been hunted down and brutally attacked by Antifa, just like how his buddy Harvey Mansfield was threatened by Antifa when he tried to speak at Concordia U back in 2019 (his talk was obviously cancelled).
>>25650470No, let me make this very clear to you. They are absolutely, positively **100%** okay with judging people and being prejudiced, as long as it is against wrongthink. You are puzzled by homonyms, victimized by frame games, and bewildered by leftist permission structures and thus have become functionally retarded. I am baffled at this point by anybody who thinks these people are relativists. They DO NOT think all ideas, beliefs, and peoples are equally valid, or even at least have some truth or perspective worth empathizing with. >>25650475Being nice and a heckin' good person. And by being nice, they mean: dey dindu nuffin', infinity jihadists, girlbossing, fighting antisemitism, praising the science (but not human biodiversity, as evolution stopped at the neck), unlimited sex orgies (but only if approved identity groups benefit from it), abolishing Whiteness, eliminating anybody who stands in the way of the aforementioned principles, etc. That's basically it. And yes, as crude and contingent as these beliefs are, they are deep-seated "universal truths" that they earnestly believe in. Modern college students are NOT relativists, and they appeal to the notion that some ideas are innately and objectively better than other ideas. They're just absolutely brain-damaged as to what those ideas should be and how to determine them because they've been brainwashed since birth in a society that is completely and utterly unable to articulate an alternative. And they want anybody else who stands in their way to be dethroned, slandered, robbed, bankrupted, ostracized, or even killed.
>>25650683Holy shit dude, someone proclaiming that homophobia is absolutely wrong doesn't preclude them from okaying it or ignoring it when a muslim does it, BECAUSE THE STANDARD IS RELATIVE. "Everything is permitted" isn't the only kind of relativism there is, Bloom talks about just this kind of wavering absolutism that's actually relativistic.>It was possible to expand the space exempt from legitimate social and political regulation only by contracting the claims to moral and political knowledge. The insatiable appetite for freedom to live as one pleases thrives on this aspect of modern democratic thought. In the begins to appear that full freedom can be attained only when there is no such knowledge at all. The effective way to defang the oppressors is to persuade them they are ignorant of the good. The inflamed sensitivity induced by radicalized democratic theory finally experiences any limit as arbitrary and tyrannical. There are no absolutes; freedom is absolute. Of course the result is that, on the one hand, the argument justifying freedom disappears and, on the other, all beliefs begin to have the attenuated character that was initially supposed to be limited to religious belief.>There are no absolutes; freedom is absolute.This perfectly characterizes modern students no less than it did then. There is no objective measure of a man or woman, sexuality owes nothing to choice or habit, there are no differences between races that can described by the words superior or inferior, etc. Do they waffle and permit exceptions? Absolutely, *because they're relativists*. Racial animus from a black is fine *relative* to that from a white, and so on. This would otherwise be a poor understanding of absolutism.
>>25650739>Holy shit dude, someone proclaiming that homophobia is absolutely wrong doesn't preclude them from okaying it or ignoring it when a muslim does it, BECAUSE THE STANDARD IS RELATIVE.You're looking at this issue too much like an autistic logician, as if they're failing a Kantian standard of universality to this action or that virtue, and thus this means that their beliefs must be tepid, their judgments lukewarm, and their values relative. This cannot be further from the case. None of their judgments come from relativism. They are not pulling any punches as to the grounding of their belief system. You're neglecting the possibility that they can be moral absolutists from the perspective of building a new caste system. The part you don't understand is that this is a spoils system, they are **prescribing winners and losers**, not universal rules, except in the sense that the status of these winners and losers ought to be universal truths. The only thing that is relative per se is where they mark the cut to split the spoils in cases where the support is not equal. Everything else is merely rhetoric (e.g. equality, then equity, then social justice, etc.) and merely affirms their revealed preferences. Yes, they support gay people. Yes, they support Muslims, too. When push comes to shove, they generally support Muslims more. However, they (probably out of delusion or selective ignorance) believe they can accommodate all parties in a cosmopolitan social democracy without any conflict or controversy whatsoever. But the point is not to create societies that have the same beliefs per se, or to be held to the same standards of actions. The point is to elevate the chosen victimized groups above the targeted aggressor enemy. In other words, the point is not to reject homophobia, but rather to elevate homosexuals. Once you understand this, the supposed "relativism" (which seems to be just an exaggerated way of pointing out fracture points in a coalition) melts away quickly.The moral compass driving modern college students is to elevate certain groups as more worthy than others. They affirm all beneficiary parties with every fiber of their being, and they reject all oppositional parties even more (e.g. straight, white, men, conservative, Christian, etc.). And they hold this system of beliefs to be "the right side of history", with appeals to objective moral facts. Sorry, but with this kind of heavy-hitting metatethical machinery driving the psychology and rhetoric, how could you call this relativism? There's nothing relative about it from their point of view. There is nothing to even debate. They know the answers, and if you don't agree with them, you are an enemy. Pointing out contradictions in rhetoric does not eliminate the moral structures driving the entire political force. And until you recognize the strength of their convictions, you will be completely hapless against their onslaught.
>>25648330what are you referencing? Did she make a video how her being a migger makes her a victim? Which video?
>>25650770>You're looking at this issue too much like an autistic logician, as if they're failing a Kantian standard of universality to this action or that virtue, and thus this means that their beliefs must be tepid, their judgments lukewarm, and their values relative.Because these are the standards by which you judge whether someone is a relativist or an absolutist. Of course their beliefs are tepid, judgements lukewarm, and values relative, and that can shown 100 different ways, something they hated yesterday is okay today and vice versa depending on what Hasan says. There are no principled grounds, they're certainly not "not pulling any punches as to the grounding of their belief system" since they don't have any such grounds.
>>25650812>Because these are the standards by which you judge whether someone is a relativist or an absolutist. That's retarded. At this point I'm beginning to believe your IQ simply isn't high enough to understand this, because this is a very simple point and it's completely going over your head. >Of course their beliefs are tepid, judgements lukewarm, and values relative, and that can shown 100 different ways, something they hated yesterday is okay today and vice versa depending on what Hasan says. There are no principled grounds, they're certainly not "not pulling any punches as to the grounding of their belief system"The principled ground is yes to niggers and kikes, and any related peoples, no matter what. They are VERY principled in this regard. I don't understand which part of this is not getting through to you. Just because they aren't choosing principles within the exact semantic structure you anticipated doesn't mean they lack principles.
>>25650872>That's retarded. At this point I'm beginning to believe your IQ simply isn't high enough to understand this, because this is a very simple point and it's completely going over your head.You're rejecting the primary standards by which anyone is held to be absolutist or relativist. And I get the impression it's more because that's been an increasingly popular narrative the last few years against wokescolds. But it only "works" if you wave a wand to make relativism look like absolutism. Do you have a wand with that kind of power, such that judgements that differ relatively, about actions that are held to be right or wrong relatively, appear absolute? No? Because magic wands are fucking fake and gay? Then they're still relativists.
>>25650797https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK8pUSAPTTE
>>25650882thanks anon. holy fuck this bitch is retarded lmao
>>25647333>G-d
>>25648116>>25648357>>25648368Define "neocon".
>>25648046>>gay, AIDS-ridden JewJudging from his writing style and interviews, you can bet he was autistic too.
>>25650882She says "um" so fucking much.
>>25650996What's wrong with Jews?
More in-depth lecture:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEJ8w1Jci8
>>25649171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAo6nJr5xjg
>>25651100Ask a Palestinian.
>>25650879>You're rejecting the primary standards by which anyone is held to be absolutist or relativist.... absolutist vs. relativist has to do with the underlying metaethical belief, nothing else, i.e. do you believe good and bad are real, or is it all a matter of perspective? Wokescolds believe good and bad are real, the principles they follow are that niggers are good and wypipo are bad, and they are so certain of their universally true knowledge that they will shoot you in the neck if you disagree with them. It's that simple. I don't know why you can't understand this.
>>25649171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv3V2BmYWoo
>>25646883She gives me the ick. Sounds like the type of woman holding a knife to your balls as you wake up.
>>25651269No, they don't, and partly that's because of the passive and pervasive acceptance of European philosophical thought critical of objectivity, but scratch at their beliefs on any point anywhere at all shows that they haven't really thought about them much, these are just whims of the moment. They can say whatever they want about whether there's a right vs wrong in an objective sense, but it only comes up when they're talking to/about whoever is deemed enemy, and is magically irrelevant for everything else, so murder is bad when their enemies do and good or a matter of indifference or mistake or wgatever when anyone else does it, which, again, is itself a sign that they're relativists. None of this is hard to grasp or new, the hippies and Weather Underground idiots were the same way in the 60s and 70s, their opinions shift more according to fashion than to any ethical or moral principle.
>>25647373Why do leftists always pull this like it’s some kind of gotcha?
>>25651764>Mounting anti-jew/anti-gay/anti-intellectual posts>These are leftists btw. Believe me!No. I shan't. The labels of Left and Right are overused, misused and largely inaccurate.There are great divides and no, the square quadrant chart doesn't fix it. Of all the "rightwing" daddies brought up on /lit/ over the years, Allan Bloom falls way behind even a mention. Our boy Harold is clearly more popular an influence around here. Hating this new booktuber, but I did watch that video and I like the point made. It's a sensible distinction.
>>25648116206k nowBots
>>25651764>dodges the question with a loaded questiongo apply for a job at msnbc
>>25646883Give me the TL;DW.
>>25646883Unironically would
>>25651039https://youtube.com/watch?v=LGVkNi3fcMw
>>25647335KEK
>>25652058i mean she's clearly psycho, and you know what they say about psycho bitches in bed.....
Idk why but I find conservative women to be revolting
>>25652465They all have chronically dry pussies and it shows.
>>25651802You can easily tell she’s using bots from the abysmal views-to-likes ratio. 217000 views and only 5100 likes indicates she’s paying for views.
>>25646883When did female chuds become a thing?
>>25652538ancient greece
>>25652568
>>25652538>>25652568>>25652591Kek
Is (((Bloom's))) book an example of pilpul?
>>25646883just read Nietzsche and you'll detach from the drooling herd of moronsuniversity students are dumb as fuck and grew up coddled. Of course they don't have heros (Hercules) or identify evil (niggers)
>>25652465But you'd fuck a tranny right? These are the only two options you have in a post-everything world.
>>25653007Everything a Jew writes is pilpul by proxy.
