another general where 12-25 year old newfags try to cast their "epic Reddit diss" upon any perceived opponent
ex fucking dee

>>25649040
I don't know the context but you sound raped

>>25649040
it sounds like you got raped are you okay?

Currently rereading Reverend Insanity. Already halfway through volume 5 and damn, there really is no webnovel nearly as good as this. Knowing all the twists and turns beforehand makes a lot of the earlier events make a lot more sense.

>review: great and unique story, one of the best on this website!
>320 followers
>review: starts fun, turns into an aimless, repetitive slog where nothing ever happens with one-dimensional characters
>24,000 followers
Never listen to feedback. Being good and being successful are very different things.

Is I Became the EX-Rank Disaster Class Golden Saint at the Gender-Reversed Hunter Academy Where Everyone Has Regressed but Me and Now I Must Use My Harem System to Climb the Tower to End the Dungeon Apocalypse in the Dark Romantic Fantasy the optimal Korean web novel title?

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>>25649192
>24,000 follower book was fun before it turned aimless
>When you have them by the balls, they'll CONSOOM no matter how bad your story gets in the off chance you return back to your winning ways.
It's that simple huh? GRRM found that this is the case in tradpub as well.

>>25649287
Wait, no
>I Became the EX-Rank Disaster Class Golden Saint at the Gender-Reversed Hunter Academy Where Everyone Has Regressed but Me and now I Must Use My Harem System to Climb the Tower to End the Dungeon Apocalypse in the Dark Romantic Fantasy While Managing the Constellation Gallery

>>25649333
What the FUCK is a constellation gallery

>>25649358
You never play Skyrim?

>>25649358
it's basically a forum
koreans are obsessed with recreating internet systems to give themselves cheats

>>25649372
oh it's like when Zeus and Hades show up in the systems stream chat and tip the MC 1000 points and then Zeus bails when Hera joins the chat.
I've read a few of those

>>25649358
Constellation means celestial (as in higher being)
Gallery means forum

Korean novel title translations consistently mistranslate those words.

Anyone else heading to the Treasure Yellow Heaven shortly?

>>25649388
what's the mistranslation there? gallery is accurate and the constellation thing is more of a trend/trope they're copying

>>25649287
still not the longest title I've ever seen

Writing a LitRPG webnovel feels like an uphill battle when you aren't an rpg type of gamer. The most rpg thing I've ever played was Skyrim. No jrpgs at all, they're all trash.

>>25649495
Don't worry man, just remember the key details
>Illusion of being weak, more power, the TRUTH of gaining even more power

>>25649495
Do you think even half of litrpg writers really know shit about games or even try to write them like that? You just put in numbers that go up, and the MC must get bigger numbers than others

>>25649192
this has nothing to do with royal road, nor success vs quality. you see this happening on goodreads, imdb, and every other rating site as well.
on goodreads, widely regarded literary works have like a 3.8/5.0 with 3,000,000 ratings, and some niche slop you've never heard of (whatever it might be, whether a tiny litrpg or romantasy story) has like a 4.7/5.0 with 80 ratings
it's a pretty simple phenomenon. the larger your audience is, the more you're pulling from outside of your TARGET audience (thus lowering the rating), and the more discerning those readers are as well because they only read the best in the genre, so that's that's their baseline for a 5 (even further lowering the rating)
the people reading 300 follower stories are so deep in the slop mines that a 7/10 is phenomenal to them and they'll rave about it in a review, because they've read so many 3s and 4s the past few months and long, long ago burned through the genuinely good stuff

Nobody would so much as make a peep if the sexes of the main cast (Rudeus and harem) in MT were reversed.

>>25649608
did you get so raped in the MT conversation you're STILL trying to spark it again? for like the 4th time this week? jesus christ shut the fuck up

Can someone recommend me novels similar to 1% Lifesteal? Recently blasted through the five published books and ended up loving it a surprising amount. Tried reading Primal Hunter and Hell Difficulty Tutorial, but I hated both. I guess I’m not into explicit system shit.

>>25649608
incredibly funny you say this because there was a scenario where the ages were reversed in MT with a 24 year old girl entering into a sexual relationship with a 10 year old boy, and the backlash was so immense the author had to delete the whole chapter from the web novel.

>trying to advertise my webnovel on twitter
>make some post related to literature
>gets like two views, zero engagement
>some dumb foid makes the exact same post with the same image and it goes viral
I hate social media so fucking much. This shit is rigged.

>>25649495
A lot of books don’t even have a proper system anymore. Most of the Korean books I read only have something like this:
>Ding!
>LV 31
>New skill unlocked: Big Dick Mode
How much stronger is LV 31 compared to LV 30? How much HP, MP, or XP does he have? What does Big Dick Mode even do? Who knows. The system doesn’t explain shit, and it’s up to the MC to experiment for himself.

>>25649641
Leaving twitter was the healthiest decision I ever made. I had some writer mutuals pretending to be friends but never liked or RT'd my tweets, but shamelessly copied all good ideas and presented them as their own and got their dicks sucked by their braindead followers. A predatory shithole

Fang Yuan burns two children alive and nobody bats an eye, but when Rudeus bags some legal cunny everyone loses their minds

>>25649663
Because no one gives a single fuck about fang yuan, shut the hell up and kill yourself

They are so overeager to prevent bot scrapers that they put their CloudFlare setting into permanent panic mode. Which makes it completely unusable for regular readers. Ironically it's easier to download the whole novel in one go with web2epub (zero problems) instead of torturing yourself with 2+ min CloudFlare checks on every chapter by visiting the site normally.

>>25649663
>nobody bats an eye
>one of the most contentious web novels in the world
you are retarded squared

>>25649641
>>25649659
Yeah just don't use twitter. It's basically a dead site full of bots that's at most useful for current event news and little else.

You'd deadass have better odds getting a fanbase for your writing on tumblr.

>>25649663
Nobody cares about RI except the spammer (You) who has spammed about it since 2019.

>>25649663
The problem is not cunny, the problem is him being a cheating scumbag.
For example Kazuma Satou from Konosuba got cunny to himself, and yet no one have problems with him. Because he's not going around having sex with random strangers.

I'm only writing websloppa so that I can repackage it into a proper book series

>>25649677
RI is one of the most popular webnovels of all time

>>25649678
>For example Kazuma Satou from Konosuba got cunny to himself, and yet no one have problems with him.
Important note here though: Kazuma is 16 himself. And he didn't get reincarnated he got transported, so he's not even like, mentally 40 or anything. It's literally a 16 year old getting with a 14 year old.

What are gu?

The ramblings of an autistic schizo.

>>25649682
Nobody cares about RI except the spammer (You) who has spammed about it since 2019.

>>25649686
>with a 14 year old
Let's be honest here, she's less extreme variant of "1000 year old loli". Because she does not look 14.

>>25649703
she definitely does look 14

>>25649711
When standing near her sister, maybe

>>25649711
She looks 8

>>25649693
I care about Reverend Insanity. Literally the best webnovel ever released, the low iq posters and the pedos prefer MT though.

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>>25649713
This is 44yo milf

>>25649721
20 something looking hag

>>25649739
Her family really look two times younger than they are. At least female side

>>25649717
We all know you care about it because you have been spamming about the book since 2019.

>>25649810
Nothing better than RI has come out since then.

The baby is dead. Ravensnogger actually killed it

>>25649663
>nobody bats an eye
It's literally banned by the CCP

How long do you make your chapters? I feel like making chapters shorter than 3k words when youre only releasing 3 times a week is pretty lazy and not likely to make big bucks on patreon. I see somewhat successful authors publish chapters that average between 1.5k and 1.8k words long from time to time, but they are the exception and not the rule.

>>25650176
can be 700, could be followed up with a 11k word chapter, could norminally be 1.7k or it could hover in the 2k range. it's whatever the scene calls for

>>25650176
>I feel like making chapters shorter than 3k words when youre only releasing 3 times a week is pretty lazy
What an oddly specific shot to take

I've suddenly acquired clarity. I don't want to write for money anymore.

But I definitely DO want crazy Indian and Brazilian fanboys who make ridiculous TikTok edits of my characters. Also, countless pages on Rule34 without me commissioning anything. Maybe even heated arguments on the website formerly known as Twitter.

I want notoriety and validation but have no interest in the money side of it. I already have a chill job that pays well and modest investments.

I know my stance isn't right or noble or respectable but it isn't any more ignoble or wrong than writing for money.

>>25650418
Conveniently timed after another WN author just got a bunch of patrons to cover for his writing full-time and made a whole social media campaign about it

>>25649659
>>25649675
I never used twitter before. Literally made an account in 2025 for the sole purpose of advertising my novel. You're right. It is nothing but bots and escorts selling nudes. Absolute waste of time.

>>25650422
It really is true, if you want people to support your writing, first become an eceleb.

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>>25650422
>>25650443

also forget the patron shit
LOOK AT THIS SHIT MAN

>>25650448
>>25650443
I'm not hating because he's making his money (he should, it encourages people to branch off from the meta which is healthy), but I am hating because I WANT MONEY GOD DAMN IT

>>25650463
yeah no good for him but WHY NOT MEEE WHY NOT ME
i know why not me, because i don't have the will to debase myself with the humiliation ritual of social media fanbase building (and i really mean it, it's a herculean endeavor)

>>25650448
This is worse than a patreon though, the money is for physical copies that have to be shipped.
Huge pain in the ass.

>”evil” mc
>look inside
>just a regular mc but maybe 10% edgier
Why do winnie authors do this?

>>25650589
sheltered lives

What if I write an evil MC but like, the people around him are all comically evil as well or something, and the ones who aren't are just stupid and antagonize the MC for beating up bad people.

I wrote a character as being in elementary school, but I completely forgot that most people seemingly had a middle school.
I wonder if that resulted in people perceiving the character as being quite a few years younger than they actually were (I had written them as being around 13 years old, but I believe middle school starts at 10 or so?).

Writing my winnie (litRPG) and I've been trying to think of ways to do HP without a straight number. Wondering if something akin to the Condition System that Fallout uses with the PIP Boy and different body parts would translate well for readers?

>>25650589
>”evil” mc
>look inside
>petty unsympathetic asshole
When will web-novel authors understand that evil character need considerable charisma? "Petty asshole murderhobo" trope only work if you're Chinese/Russian/NorthKorean/etc, it does not work for normal people.
Evil main character have to be compelling.

>>25650589
>>25650901
The issue is a competent enough evil MC is just going to result in a fantasy adaptation of The Prince for most publishing sites because they're not gonna let you rewrite Hogg from the perspective of the muder-rape-trucker.

>>25650908
The issue is that if you write a novel with villain narrator that's good on self-rationalizing all his/her actions and gradual enough on the slippery slope, then stupid readers fail to see the big picture, and buy into MC's delusion. They think that MC is not evil, even if he/she literally murder babies and enslave hundreds of people.

>>25650913
>evil mc
>justifying his actions
only if the mc is a moralist retard

>>25650913
Not all that evil if he has to justify his actions. Like I said, just another recreation of The Prince.

>>25650249
>What an oddly specific shot to take
That's more or less what the "Running your story like the business it is" text in the op recommends. In my opinion, if you dont put out at least 12k words per week, youre lazy and dont deserve patrons.

>>25650970
How many words a week do you put out?

>>25650976
More than you

>>25650970
For professional IRL authors, 100-120k words per year is pretty normal. This implies quality over quantity, of course.
For free novel authors 5k words per month is pretty normal.

>>25649433
>gallery is accurate
Gallery doesn't mean forum at all. Constellation does not mean celestial, though both have to do with stars in some not applicable senses.

Are you okay?

>>25650970
Lots of people get things they don't deserve.

>>25650939
But the Prince is about being a good leader, not evil?

>>25651121
5k is like 2 chapters a month

>>25651201
*1 chapter. And what did you expect? Free web-comics update one full page per week. Free one-person-made animations update 5 minute episode per 1 year.

I got filtered by how bad the Baby archmage's writing is a few paragraphs in. Do WN readers really?

>>25651270
Bad writing doesn't even make the top 5, maybe even top 10, of things they care about when reading a WN

>>25651128
Gallery is the part of an audience that watches from the top 'gallery'. Ever heard of the common English idiom, 'peanut gallery'? Should be well known to non-ESLs. Forum is a public meeting place. Gallery makes more sense since celestials watch from above.

And I already said constellation was a trend thing, I don't know what you're even arguing there for. ORV was trying to powerscale stars, constellations, nebulae, universes etc, and people just sort of copied constellation since it seemed cool. Maybe its a korean culture thing too, idk.

>see people posting their stories on social media
>most of them are physically published books
>decide to drop a link to my webnovel, figure it'll be ignored in the swarm of all the other authors
>several people told me that they read it
it might not be hundreds of followers but it feels good

>>25651328
based-shameless-webnovel-promoter-chad.

>>25651246
A web novel is a lot easier to produce than a comic or an animation
The expectations are are actually pretty high. The averge rising stars story has 25-35 chapters in its first month

>>25651324
>Gallery is the part of an audience that watches from the top 'gallery'. Ever heard of the common English idiom, 'peanut gallery'?
You're forcing the similarity. If it were *just* an audience, the entire phrase peanut gallery could fit, but they're managed chats. Gallery does not mean that in English.

Same goes for constellation.

>>25651324
>Gallery is the part of an audience that watches from the top 'gallery'. Ever heard of the common English idiom, 'peanut gallery'? Should be well known to non-ESLs. Forum is a public meeting place. Gallery makes more sense since celestials watch from above.
Connotations in one language don't necessarily translate to connotations in another one, chief.

>>25650980
That isn't an answer, nowriter

>>25651140
Yeah. It explicitly comes to the conclusion that "If you're gonna be an evil bastard who takes over the world, you do this best by being a good leader instead of being a hedonistic violent retard like the Borgias."

>>25651415
It's kinda a shame common knowledge thinks the book gives the lesson of "Better to be feared than loved" when really it was "Look, being loved universally is hard. If you can't manage that, be feared. But don't go far enough with being feared that you become HATED because then you're fucked."

>>25651428
>>25651415
>If you're gonna be an evil bastard who takes over the world
No, the whole message is that trying to act virtuously with the wrong things is guaranteed to get you fucked no less certainly than if you were an evil fuckhead. There are times when a leader must be ruthless and protect his own good, because his good is then reflected on everyone under him. It's a guide to maximizing everyone's happiness, that somehow gets misunderstood century after century.

>>25650970
Primal Hunter's page explicitly states that the average chapter is 2500 words long, so that is the golden standard.

>>25651334
That's patreon-slop/kindle-unlimited-bait, tho. I'm talking about real free stories.

>>25651444
When in real life people are called "ruthless and ambitious", in fiction the same kind of people tend to be called "villains".

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

>>25651466
only written by real true scotsmen, of course

>>25651413
Yes it is

>>25651467
People's child-like insistence on absolute goodness (in public), despite knowing it impossible and not seriously even trying, has likely resulted in more destruction and suffering than likely anything else we do.

>>25651473
He has basically one method for handling things.

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>>25651378
That's literally the joke. That a high and mighty gallery of divine beings is acting like a stream chat or social media haters. Calling it a forum is just explaining the joke. Peanut gallery is the exact same joke, because galleries are dignified so you wouldn't expect them to be filled with hecklers throwing peanuts.

>when the literal translation heads dont realize the 'mistranslation' was just trying to set up a common gag

>>25651721
>because galleries are dignified so you wouldn't expect them to be filled with hecklers throwing peanuts.

>The gallery of a theatre or church is a form of balcony, an elevated platform generally supported by columns or brackets, which projects from an interior wall, in order to accommodate additional audience.
>It may specifically refer to the highest such platform, and carries the cheapest seats in theatres.[1]

dipshit

>>25651270
>>25651271
why DO they like baby archmage. i dont fucking get it. it has zero redeeming qualities to me. its a baby thinking about mana.

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>>25651897
shuttup lil groundling
*hawks a loogie on your bald head from my upper class gallery*

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Just read up to part 3 book 3 of War and Peace and finished up another chapter to schedule. Hype time to write the epic cool mecha battle and the kino payoff I've always strived for. I'm already planning ahead after even that forthcoming chapter ends. Been trying to bring myself to read Born Under a Black Sun recently. Anyways it's all coming together bros.

>>25652088
>AI summary

Any actual good WN? Like, non-litrpg, too. I've been browsing RR and it seems like even those books that aren't litrpg and which meet the low bar of not being complete messes when it comes to grammar have really terrible prose. And even those that don't have terrible prose are like stupid quirk chungus millenial writing. Surely among all the stores on the site there must be one that kinda sorta approaches something classic, with actual serious prose

>>25652758
mine

>>25652758
A Practical Guide to Evil, minus the occasional (likely intentional) grammar error.

>>25652765
NTA but I think A Practical Guide to Evil qualifies as quirk chungus if anything does

>>25652758
name what you like first. need a baseline to give recs for
some people make posts like this then say Azarinth Healer is good

>>25652772
How? There's absolutely zero quirky humor in APGTE
It has a pozzed sort of "women stronk" and LGBT stuff that takes a super minor role over 4 million+ words, and is lightly reddit coded, but it's not even close to most of RR's top-rated litrpg trash in that sense

>>25652773
I enjoyed Wizard of Earthsea, some of Patricia McKillip's stuff. Tad Williams, too. I enjoyed Game of Thrones but eventually felt like it seemed too uninterested in the actual fantasy part of fantasy.

>>25652784
quirk chungus is not the same as litrpg. If anything I'd say litrpg is more zoomer coded. They're two different brands of trash

>>25652791
I'll be honest, I don't know what the fuck you're saying.
You're like twenty times more online than me and I use 4chan regularly and read web novels
Try talking like a human

>>25652794
I'm sorry you're too autistic to understand simple sentences from context, newfag-kun

>>25652790
Why are you listing decades old widely acclaimed tradpub fantasy phenoms? That shit doesn't even sell these days. What brain damage brought you to the web novel thread?

>>25652797
>newfag-kun
Of fucking course it's you

>>25652800
>it's yooouuuu! everyone is yyouuuuu!!!!!
Take your meds, newfag.

>>25652794
I am saying that you seem to be associating the typical litrpg slop on RR with "quirk chungus". However, "quirk chungus" is simply slang to describe tryhard quirky millenial humor influenced by Marvel movies. It doesn't need to be litrpg at all, and A Practical Guide to Evil is definitely falls under is umbrella. Meanwhile, most of the litrpg slop on RR is definitely bad, don't get me wrong, but I think it's more bad in a more zoomer-coded way (standouts like DCC notwithstanding.) They are both bad, but they're different things.

>>25652802
You respond the same way every time dude
You even did it this time. I almost added
>inb4 "every post I don't like is the same person"
To my last post because you spam that shit too and I could see it fitting. Then you did it
You really are a Pokemon the way you spam phrases. It doesn't take a detective to see your fat greasy fingers on the keyboard

>>25652799
Curiousity. Out of all the webnovels out there, the hundreds of thousands, there must be some that are sort of like this.

>>25652803
You typed a lot and still didn't explain the difference between your buzz words, which was the complaint I had

>>25652810
You stupid bitch, I very politely did explain the differences only for you to decide to snark at me again, so now I'm just going to call you a nigger faggot and ignore you

How do i handle tragedy and generally bad stuff happening to my MC and loved ones? Slop readers absolutely HATE it when something bad happens but you still need, you know, drama and conflict to happen
But then you have people like:
>"WTF? His dad died? Sacrificing himself to save his son? Why did the author made me waste my time getting to know this character if he was going to die?"
>"His lover died? What the fuck is this cuck shit? 1/10"
>"Someone stole something from him? And he can't do anything about it? What an idiot! That wouldn't have happened if i was there!"
>"He's crying? Because his life is hard and bad shit happened? SOIIIII !!! WE HAVE A SOIMAN OVER HERE!"
And emotional people go along with those takes because they self-insert too hard and their escapism high gets interrupted

>>25652807
>out of the millions of people playing soccer casually, surely one of them is as good as the best soccer players in the entire world
No, dumbfuck, this logic is obviously broken
You mentioned tradpub works that went through endless rounds of editing that then went on to become immortalized decades later for being the best of their generation. Why would these be comparable to the endless amounts of amateur works posted online?
>>25652812
You explained your retarded buzz words by using the same buzz words in a slightly more verbose way you retarded fuckface. I asked you to type like a human and you failed.
No, I don't want a real response, I already made it clear I don't think you're human.

>>25652806
>IT UUUUUUU!!! IT UUUUUU!!! EVERYONE I HATE SAME PERSON!!!!
"Anonymous" isn't a username, newfag. Take your meds.

>>25652821
>typing like a deranged toddler slamming his head into his keyboard
I love being proved right
Only one deranged retard does this. And no, nothing you type will convince me otherwise. Your "take your meds" response is a cope

>>25652816
just set the tone early. have bad shit happening chapter 1. you wanna filter those types out early. alternatively just roll with the punches, bad attention and complaints are still free attention, and might attract other people.

>>25652818
Uh, no. You asked me for my tastes and I gave some of my tastes. That doesn't imply I'm looking for someone at the same level of skill, only works in a similar style. Your analogy is bad, because soccer is primarily measured along one dimension, skill, while novels are measured along (at least) 2, style and skill.

>>25652823
Being this delusional is unhealthy for you, autistic newfag. I recommend a therapist, or maybe a rope.

>>25652827
I'm not tracking who is who in a thread full of retards and deliberate trolls, but you've stayed calm despite me sperging out.

So I'll do the same for you only. I don't think the analogy is different. No expert of any field, ever, is only reliant on skill. Soccer players are also constrained by circumstances, opportunity, marketability, and so on. Skill matters for them as a major factor in the same way skill matters for a writer. As does luck. Etc. But it's too long of a conversation to have in a shitty cess thread like this.

What do you mean "style" is a major factor for writers? Why did you pick that word as the second biggest factor? I can't wrap my head around what you mean. Elaborate? Are you saying those immortal writers survived because of their "style"? I think we have different views on what makes a writer immortal, if so

>>25652816
Source it to an awful bastard so that they can freely gossip and focus their hate on said awful bastard. Worked for me.

>>25652824
>just set the tone early. have bad shit happening chapter 1
Good idea actually, thanks anon

>>25652758
Pale Lights. It takes a while for the plot to get moving since there's a lot of front loaded world building and a large cast. It took me 3-4 tries of reading the first 20 or chapters until it "clicked".

>>25652758
>>25652855
To add the premise is essentially fantasy CIA spooks-in-training running around a post apocalyptic world filled with spirits and gods that run amok or make warlock pacts with people. Unfortunately the first plotline is a team battle royale which I think filters a lot of people because there's 30 people to keep track of.

>>25652855
Hmm. I've actually tried reading that one before but never could get into it. Maybe I'll give it another shot. I've also heard good things about The Flower that Bloomed Nowhere and Chasing Sunlight, which I see are actually both on Pale Light's 'others also liked' carousel. Maybe I could try browsing through that for other fics as well.

>>25652837
Stupid modern contrivances like trigger warnings or tag systems have made people too used to being prepared for everything. If you catch someone off guard, they get angry that you lied about the tags and mistagged it, then you tag it and spoil your own twist. All of these are corny, inelegant and heavyhanded solutions, on the other hand, if you avoid ANY warnings and make a sharp turn from a happy story to a dark story, the whiplash is going to destroy everyone's enjoyment. Even if its a twist, it has to be a logical expected twist, not a nonsense asspull twist.

I think setting the tone early acts like a diegetic trigger warning, where you can naturally warn people and build foreshadowing/anticipation towards those things. If you're going to have a shocking rape scene at the climax of the story then by god have some creepy undertones Ch 1, even if the story settles down right after, the warning was always there for those with enough insight, and the gutless will be filtered out before getting to the nasty parts.

>>25652758
RR is primarily about litrpg and progression stories, that's the site's niche. As for good WNs, I'm surprised Mother of Learning and Worm haven't been brought up already. They are like the two that always get mentioned when that question is asked. MoL is on RR (though it didn't start there), Worm is on the authors site but there's various scrapers that exist to generate an epub version (that also fixes typos etc).

>>25652949
>As for good WNs, I'm surprised Mother of Learning and Worm haven't been brought up already.
They're the Marvel equivalent of web novels. They have wide appeal
So read them if you like Endgame I guess

>>25652973
I don't think that analogy works considering Worm is about as far as you can get from Marvel superheroes.

>>25652980
They are the incredibly popular wide appeal nerd series. Uncontested
Like Marvel
Stop being autistic

>>25652758
Reverend Insanity.

>>25652982
I fucking hate the Marvel films but enjoyed MoL and Worm. So I agree with the other anon, it's a shit comparison.

>>25652791
reddit crawler carl is textbook millenial chungerino

>>25652995
So what is the Marvel of web novels?
>DCC
Flopped as a web novel

>>25652999
>So what is the Marvel of web novels?
Anything with Archmage in the title.

>>25652999
Solo Leveling
The Beginning After the End
Any East Asian power fantasy web novel really

>>25653001
none are top level popular like marvel
>>25653003
I dont think overseas trash counts personally

>>25653008
Overseas trash like Mushoku Tensei is more uncontested because of shit like the anime. If you narrowed it down and said Worm and MoL are the Marvel of the western rationalslop genere of web novels then there's no disagreement.

>>25652758
If you want to read for prose you should read poetry. It should be obvious that serial fiction isn't going to have good prose.