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She singlehandedly ruined Victory Gundam for us.
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>>23775874
>us
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Some people in here like Katejina, hell some people in here like Nina Purpleton
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>>23775884
>>23775880
Why would anyone like her? She's literally psychotic
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I disagree, Gundam needs more Katejina-like villains.
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>>23775874
>Fuck Katejina
gladly
>She singlehandedly saved Victory Gundam for us.
ftfy
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>>23775905
>>23775899
>he thinks fuck in this context means sex
Is English your second language?
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>>23775911
Are you retarded?
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>>23775911
So how old are? First day on the internet?
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>>23775874
>us
Don't even think you can associate with me you dumbass. Just because you're not good enough for the show doesn't mean everyone is.
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>>23775899
>jewish
Literally what?
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>>23775874
>>23775885
>>23775911
Fuck off underage redditor.
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>>23776085
>he doesn't know.
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>>23776159
khazar milkers
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>>23776159
>sturdy attributes
Tomino is calling her ancestors fat.
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>>23776306
>tfw you will never take a broken and blind Katejina home and tie her up as you rub bars of butter around her neck, letting the dripping skid down her blouse, making her bra sticky yet oily, then you stick your thing between two buttons of her shirt and fuck her chest as she frantically scurry about but can't do anything because she can't see so her tits flop left and right from her struggles, unwittingly give you a titfuck, then you stick a bar of butter up her pussy and watch it melt from the warmth inside her and then stick your dick inside since it has lubrication already and her sightless yet futile struggle makes the fucking more intense and you finally shove your dick down her throat and she has no choice but to suck ferociously because she's blind and hungry and hasn't had any nutrient other than your buttery dick and you keep on butter fucking her until all her mind associate with reality is the taste of your butter-flavored dick in her mouth and the sensation of having things melt into a puddle inside her vagina and she eventually dissociate from reality all together and become a butter-addicted whore who can only suck with her mouth and squeeze with her vagina.

>tfw Usso finds your secret and asks "what the fuck shakti"
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>>23776159
Sasuga Tomino sensei
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>>23776315
>spoiler
I don't get it.
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She did nothing wrong
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>>23775905
khazar milkers
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>>23776315
need brown girl gf
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she needs more hentai
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>>23776960
Would you faggots stop this stupid meme already
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>>23775874
Will gladly fuck Katejina.
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>>23780764
>girl
kek
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>>23775911
You first post on the internet right there
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What IS her problem?
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>>23785548
College girls baka.
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>>23785548
The same problem we have now. We live in the age of victory
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>>23775874
Katejina is a cute Slav Jew and even Tomino felt bad for her enough to keep her alive so she can "redeem herself". How Tomino imagined her redemption I don't know, but I think that Uso impregnating her will be good enough to atone for her sins.
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>fuck Katejina
DON'T MIND IF I DO
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>>23786307
No. It'll be her getting impregnated by me and learning to be happy as the mother to my children and my cute Jew wife.
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>>23786311
Chronicle...
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>>23786311
Isn't the joke that Chronicle didn't even think of her sexually?
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Depends. In the original series they don't seem to be all that close which works with the whole subverted matriarchy thing and him getting manipulated by the power hungry women around him, although Katejina seems to be infatuated with him.

In the often meme'd novel where Cronicle is a gooner who constantly thinks about Katejina's pussy, their sexual relationship is used as a catalyst for Katejina's cyber newtype madness and obsession with her lost virginity, since she was basically forcefully "saved" by Cronicle from life-threatening full body burns, operated on, and married off to him. But the novel was written solo by Tomino who was also in his goblin kill-them-all-but-even-more-than-usual mode and has a lot of differences in continuity and characterization.
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Katejina was the best thing to happen to Victory. She turned a fairly standard looking finale into something memorable. It's not like any of the other antagonists could have elevated the ending like she did.
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>>23775874
>Fuck Katejina
I'm trying
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>>23786307
>how Tomino imagined her redemption I don't know, but I think that Uso impregnating her will be good enough to atone for her sins.
I mean to be fair, she seems to be at peace now and technology is advanced enough to help her living with blindness. Compares to Char who got evaporated, her conclusion is not that bad, all things considered.
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>>23794540
Everyone in Victory lives like it's the 1930s
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>>23794573
Yet you have Victory Gundam itself and the apocalypse leveled of weapon such as angel halo.
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>>23794583
>angel high low
ftfy
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>>23775874
Yes I absolutely would fuck Katejina
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She’s not a good person, but she’s the best character in the show. She’s selfish and entitled, chastises everyone around her for using violence when she’s clearly wrong, because she has no thought of anything practical - she just wants to jump to an easy moral high ground to feel superior. Once she can have a prince for a boyfriend, she’s happy to do violence for him. She’s happy to parrot Zanscare ideology to those people that had the audacity to not agree with her. She’s an echo of any self-centered, self-righteous person that jumps on any band wagon that lets her preach down to those around her. She’s such a bitch, and it makes her the most interesting character. It also makes Uso’s naive adoration of her tragic. Also nice how she disregards Uso until he starts becoming more important than her and not listening to her, at which point she doubles down on ordering him to stop being important, and becomes her nemesis for not continuing to simp for her.
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>>23801768
She is the actual char clone of the show and one of the best as well.
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>>23801785
Haman clone more like. Treating the male protag like her own personal boy toy and threw a fit when he refused to be submissive to a woman.
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>>23776204
>fat
You misspelled THICC.
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>>23776315
And what is "your" secret?
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katejina is not enough of a hag for me to be interested
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>>23801768
What's with the camera?
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>>23803761
That's for taking photos.
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>>23789751
Then how did he know the color of Katejina's vagina?
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>>23775884
>>23775880
Only beta cucks like stronger women who treat men like shit
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She's so evil and murderous. Fuck her
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>>23775874
>Fuck her
You fool! You want more psychos to run around? Not to mention her getting knocked up would be as bad as Haman getting knocked up.
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>>23808312
If Jewdough was the father it could probably fix whatever's wrong with Haman tbdesu
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>>23802058
I wouldn't call her a Haman clone because, for all her faults, Haman fought for what she believed in and genuinely cared about her colony. Katejina only cares about people to the extent that they could serve her and her ego. Her relationship with Chronicle exemplified this where she only cared about him because she made her feel important whereas he simped for her because he was a spinless, naïve fool.
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>>23808656
>Jewdough
Heavy doubt here.
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>>23775874
>Fuck Katejina
god I wish
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>>23809278
Don't get involved with crazy.
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I don't get it. Why do some people like her?
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>>23809278
You think some old fat man took her in and took care of her?
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>>23814581
>crazy
>sex
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>>23808656

Man would be a withered husk by the time Haman was done with him.
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>>23815404
One less crazy space warlord. It's a small sacrifice
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Dick would've fixed her, she should've gotten raped early on instead of being saved by chronicle.
Instead we get the most insufferable woman that Tomino has ever created.
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>us
Dont you ever imply im a godless spacenoid ever again. Burn in hell with that antichrist Maria, Katejina.
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>>23776159
Is that one of those apocryphal quotes the internet is so partial to?
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>>23815404
Since when did Judau have a five o'clock shadow?
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>>23819361
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>>23821177
You neglected to enter your answer.
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>>23815039
Essentially this.
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>>23806152
But why tho?
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>>23829219
It's a mystery.
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>>23829983
She's not even wearing that in the illustration in question! Nor did she even in the source material!
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>>23830293
Fuck me, you're picky.
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Why do Japanese netizens like her so much?
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>>23831387
>crazy
>big tits
>blonde
A true mystery.
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>>23829983
>holding chibi-Usso in her hand
>not stuffing him into her first measurement
ONE LOUSY JOB!
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>>23831419
>>big tits
They're not THAT big.
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>>23833663
this isn't hentai.
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>>23835500
That changes nothing.
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>>23776315
Image looks cropped.
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>>23838049
no shit, I don't want a 3 day vacation.
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>>23776315
>jaaaaa
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>>23838313
Okay, got a link to the uncropped image?
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>>23840056
just search on booru.
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>>23842351
What if it's not on there?
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Why does everyone say Katejina is crazy? She's a cool, loving big sister type. She even chewed out her dad when she found he sold out her city to BESPA. She doesn't seem evil at all.

t. have only watched the first eight episodes
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>>23843877
their souls are weighed down by gravity.
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>>23843877
I'm a little bit further ahead, at episode 18. Katejina is helping by spying on Zanscare. Clearly not an evil character. She even stood up for Uso, and how League Militaire was using him as a child soldier in the early episodes.


Some of Katejina's dialogue like Woowig(her village) deserving what happened to them is pretty interesting.
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>>23776735
The joke is Shakti has a benis
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>>23844320
>Woowig(her village) deserving what happened to them
Did she ever explain her rationale behind that statement?
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>>23786307
>>23794540
>>23801768
>>23844320
>Usso
FTFY
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>>23830308
What did Usso mean by this?
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>>23844454
no, she just says they were depraved. being a TV show for the middle and maybe high school range of kids, they weren't going to go into detail about what sorts of depravity, maybe he would have mentioned something more specific in the victory novels.

up to this point, Tomino's animated shows mainly just showed the federation elite being mostly uncaring toward the masses by abandoning them to die when it came to dublin and tibet, while more radical groups like the titans actively gassed an entire colony cylinder and tried to do it again a few years later

don't know whether that means there was an underground ped
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>>23845975
Underground what?
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>>23844320
>>23845975
>woowig
it's uwig, please stop watching shitty subs.
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>>23847104
I don't see you releasing the correct subs

be the change you want to see in the world
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>>23785616
Give me the MS please
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>>23806186
If she's stronger than you then that's your KEK problem
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>>23806186
Go be gay somewhere else.
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>>23847444
Which one?
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>>23843877
>BESPA
Is that an acronym or something?
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>>23847186
they already exist.
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>>23852367
Where?
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>>23843205
Hello?
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>>23801768
I can't even imagine such a person existing. The lack of self-awareness it would require would essentially make them subhuman.
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>>23852306
Ballistic Equipment & Space Patrol Armory
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>>23855222
Hits pretty close to home, doesn't it?
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>>23858464
Welcome to the internet.
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Lmao some of you only like her because of her design. She was the worst character in victory by far. Very pathetic from you lot lol
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>>23860734
Shakti is worse, and anyone who disagrees only disagrees because they are attracted to brown children (female) like Shakti.
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>>23861553
This may shock you, but some people aren't motivated entirely by pedophilia. Other reasons for doing or thinking things exist.
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>>23855222
They lurk in the darkness here.
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>>23861553
>brown children (female)
inb4 that one meme panel.
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>>23863976
What one meme panel?
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>>23867400
That doujin meme panel.
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>>23867823
WHAT doujin meme panel?!
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>>23785548
Looks like wokism.
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>>23809156
>she made her feel important
>she
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>>23870140
>The matriarchal space nazis don't like men
>Le woke
Wow anon! It's almost like you watched the show or something!
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I think she's hotter after having her life ruined and being a urchin.
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>>23844320
Anon, she isn't spying, she was just convincing herself to stay with Chronicle. She is conflicted on her her allegiance, but between then ane her next appearance, she clearly makes up her mind.
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>>23871973
Not sure what statement you're trying to make there but okay.
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>>23872652
I want to invite her into my house to get her out of the snow and feed her soup til she can feel her fingers again
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>>23775874
Most of Victory feels like a blur to me but I still remember Katejina in those last few eps.
Her downfall should've been a bigger plot thread.
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>>23872652
She can still make babies.
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>>23872975
Although I would've like to see more of Katejina, I feel like the final episodes and shows ending give her a lot of proper focus. The scene with her and Shakti was very powerful. I wonder if she recovered part of her memories given her reaction to Karl saying his name, and crying as she heads to Woowig.
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>>23872652
shut up shakti
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That ending bit where shes convinced Uso and Chronicle are fighting over her is something like a woman assuming a former simp is still simping over her.
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>>23872652
>being a urchin
I don't think she has it in her to be tsun-tsun anymore.
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>>23845975
I just noticed the river's so full of dead people it's no longer even flowing.
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New to UC.

Is it worth watching Victory just for her?
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>>23875876
I finished watching Victory recently. The show has problems, but I think it explores certain themes very well. Katejina is one of the best parts of the show. This thread goes into some of the reasons why she works so well as a character.
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Fuala is a character I really liked in Victory. She might've been my favorite antagonist in the show if not for Katejina's strong showing at the end. I like the nature of her being on both ends of the guillotine as far as sentencing others to die, and being sent to slowly die in space. I kind of wish she was brought back sooner, but it worked out pretty well with how things happened.
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>>23875876
Victory is great on its own, but Katejina is also a good cherry on top.
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>>23776159
Tomino is so based.
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Can we just let this thread die? I fucking hate Katejina and Victory.
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>>23875876
It's a messy masterpiece, remarkable for its intensely human feel. That said, you need a certain sensitivity to appreciate it without being put off by its flaws, which I think are quite minor.
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>>23875992
/m/ is a really slow board.
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Yes, I know I shouldn't stick my dick in crazy- HOWEVER
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>>23872652
You know, it would have been fun if she showed up as a blind pilot during Crossbone Dust.
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>>23876244
>blind pilot
What's even the point?!
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>>23876646
To fuck with you.
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>>23875946
>>23875956
So do most people like her because she's a good character or mostly because they're horndogs?
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>>23872652
Imagine capturing her and putting her on trial for warcrimes, and she breaks down because she has no idea what's going on
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>>23876748
Yes.
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>>23876842
She's blind, not deaf.
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>>23876646
One of the best parts of Ghost was Tobia learning to pilot while blind.
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>>23877943
>Tobia
Frost?
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>>23875956
What is she doing in the upper left corner there?
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>>23879023
That's Olba.
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>>23875876
Personally, I think Victory has plenty of its own merits which aren't Katejina, but she's definitely an interesting part of the show, and I do not mean that in the erotic sense. As others have said Victory is in some senses messy and it's definitely imperfect, but for me I find it's genuinely one of my favorite overall UC entries, up there with 0079.
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>>23882678
I feel that Victory is even better than 0079 because it's as if Tomino let himself go and poured all his imagination into it instead of limiting himself to a more episodic format.
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>>23882711
You're damn right about that. I need to rewatch Victory, I've rewatched 0079 at least 4-5 times now.
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>>23882711
>poured all his imagination into it instead of limiting himself to a more episodic format
Not sure I see how the two are mutually exclusive.
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>>23883262
It is in the sense of the specific formula of the villain of the week, it's not that Victory completely lacks this but the greater number of characters logically offers more diversity of interactions and conflicts.
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>>23882711
>>23882779
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. If you look around the internet (even on 2ch), the consensus on Victory is overwhelmingly negative. Lots of people call it comically bad. One well-known reviewer on MAL even gave it a 3.5/10. I haven't watched it myself yet, but when the majority seems to hate it this much, it makes me think it probably is pretty bad, right? Why do you like it personally?
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>>23883615
I'm the second guy you quoted and I am indeed being dead serious. I don't give a shit about whatever some guys I don't know on some aggregate site I rarely if ever use think. I enjoyed Victory because, for me, it was a neat combination of
>compelling narrative
>interesting setting development
>good choreography, mecha designs I like
>characters I like
>actual genuine batshit insanity

I'm the kind of person who also genuinely enjoyed Gundam ZZ, which is widely disliked, but I didn't care or pay any attention to that "common" opinion when I watched it outside of giving myself breathing space when I watched it for the first time following Zeta Gundam. Not everything is for everybody. Some people can have difficulty looking past the flaws of a work to see it for its goods or bads. For a contrast, I absolutely hated watching Gundam Wing, which is at least moderately liked if not outright well liked and thought that its writing was abysmal dogshit. Gundam Wing started off as something I enjoyed only to quickly devolve into being painful for me to watch about five or so episodes in, whereas V Gundam, after a mildly confusing but still interesting start, kept me paying attention, had twists and turns I found entertaining or fascinating, and has stayed in my thoughts to this day because of some of its themes, characters, and events.

To elaborate in Victory's confusing start, literal corporate interference resulted in the first four episodes being turned into flashbacks via voiceover and editing to get the Victory onscreen ASAP. This fucks up the structure of these epsiodes a bit, but to make a long story short Uso's first MS is a non-Gundam machine, and had the show been allowed to air normally, he would only have actually used a Gundam at around episode 4.
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>>23883615
>I haven't watched it myself yet, but when the majority seems to hate it this much, it makes me think it probably is pretty bad, right
horrible mindset to have, you might as well volunteer yourself in the cattle factory.
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>>23884104
>see it for yourselves
I wish I had as much free time as you. And how is that exactly a 'horrible mindset to have'? Is it wrong to read reviews before going to a restaurant so you at least know what to expect? Statistically, the majority is usually right. Like, would you willingly go to a restaurant that everyone says has poor hygiene?
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>>23884094
>I absolutely hated watching Gundam Wing, which is at least moderately liked if not outright well liked and thought that its writing was abysmal dogshit.

I also thought Wing was terrible and dropped it around episode 7 or so. I was willing to tolerate it up until that episode where Wufei killed those soldiers in their sleep, and that woman whom I forgot her name not only lets him go free instead of stopping him, but actually starts sympathizing with his whole cause. That was the point where I checked out completely.

I guess I can trust your opinion on Victory then. I’ll give it a watch.
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>>23884159
Glad I could get my opinions across, just remember that you're free to form your own opinions too. If you think Victory sucks ass in the end, it's a perfectly valid way to feel. You did better than I on Wing, I tortured myself by watching the whole thing and was actively hoping for the entire cast to die by the show's end. I hope Victory, by contrast, can earn the chance you give it, and that it can be at least more enjoyable than Wing for you. I certainly know it was for me, and look forward a rewatch. Cheers dude.
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>>23884149
>food analogy
please anon, I am trying to give you benefit of the doubt.
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>>23883615
I'm the first anon, although I see you've already received a good answer I'll point out that when something is poorly rated by the masses, there are two options: either it's genuinely bad, or it's simply beyond the capacity for appreciation of the casual viewer. You might call me pretentious, but I maintain that Victory falls into the latter category. Therefore, I can't guarantee you'll like it, but you should probably watch about six episodes if you have any interest. However, if you've seen anything by Tomino before and didn't like it, I wouldn't recommend it.
Without going into too much detail, I'll say that Victory stands out for the intensity of its emotions and how human its characters feel. It's the sum of small details that converge in the larger conflict. It's full of eccentricities, but for me, the setting works as a surreal environment for character study and drama.
>>23884094
I'm watching Wing these days and I'm really struggling with it. I'd probably give it a 5/10 or something because of the ideas here and there, but its self-indulgent teenage empowerment, the lack of cohesion and definition in its plot and motivations, the jumping from one subplot to another without developing the processes, etc., is making it really hard for me to keep watching, although I will finish it because I'm a masochist who likes to complete what I start. Have you seen After War? Would you say it's better?
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Bar Katejina, are there any other hot chicks in this show? Please don't say Shakti.
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>>23884253
You're basically in my exact shoes when I was watching Wing and I have very similar thoughts on it. It's really frustrating because you can see the bones of good ideas in it and the mechanical designs are great but it simply doesn't deliver. I can at least tell you that the ending for me was absolutely not worth it and I came away pissed, I finished it, like you, for completion's sake but I came away from it annoyed and rather feeling I'd wasted my time. I've asked here on /m/ about the movie but people say it's, on a fundamental level, more Wing, and so I've concluded it wouldn't do me any good to bother watching it and to torture myself further.

>>23884316
Yes, there's literally a whole squadron of them whom we get to see fairly often, some are main characters, and there's even more besides.
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>>23884346
Just to share, if you haven't seen Ideon, you should check it out. Its biggest problem is the villain-of-the-week format, but I think it excels in character dynamics and the intensity of its build-up. The film Be Invoked is its high point, and I consider it a complete masterpiece, a truly spiritual and cathartic experience.
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>>23884367
No worries anon, I've seen Ideon already and it also is one of my overall favorite shows. Like Victory it is in my thoughts quite a bit. Be Invoked is great but the episode I always keep coming back to in my thoughts has to be Betrayal on Ajian. I also really like it as a show about people- in a sense they are really the meat and potatoes of all shows, mecha or not, and for his weirdness I think in my time with mecha (not long enough) I've only rarely come across guys who depict people and humanity quite like Tomino does, alongside his excellent fight choreography. Like Victory I'd like to rewatch Ideon, but unlike Victory I have a vague plan to watch it side by side with a friend; for him it'd be his first time. Ideally afterwards we could watch Evangelion for the first time together, as neither of us has seen it.
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>>23884316
marbet, shrike team, fuala, lupe, maria bikini squad etc.
victory is hag kino.
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>>23884372
I agree with your assessment of Tomino, his works simply resonate with me and led me to deepen my artistic appreciation, without meaning to sound pretentious. There's something human, organic, and alive in his work; it feels natural, intense, and realistic in the way he portrays the complexity of his characters relationships and conflicts. It is a theatrical sensibility that practically does not exist in the medium today.
Evangelion, on the other hand, evokes mixed feelings in me. It's a great series, but once I started exploring the medium and came across Victory or Ideon, I realized that some of its charm was lost on me, mainly because I feel it relies too heavily on its pathos and conceptual ambiguity. To be more honest, I'd say it feels somewhat morbid, and that limits it as an artistic work in my eyes, in contrast to Tomino's works, which I recognize as morally more elevated. Despite this, it definitely has good direction and genuinely evokes the existential angst it aims for, its characters feel human, and it offers a certain catharsis.
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>>23775874
She made me watch the show with a single hand.
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>>23884410
That's my thing about Eva. I hear from it at a distance and have gotten a something of a sour impression of it, like it's nihilist in a sense. Tomino even at his lowest I feel is not that base, at least IMO, and he's openly spoken about how he didn't like that. Call it Tomino worship or pretentiousness of my own but those thoughts have made me put off of wanting to ever see EVA on its own merits for quite some time. For all the ridiculous darkness Tomino does I never feel like he ever tries to tell you that life and the struggle to live is pointless.
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>>23884438
Eva isn't the way it is because it is trying to be edgy. Eva is the way it is because the creator is trying to express living with clinical depression and the alienation that resulted from it.
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>>23884469
I understand. I hope, then, that it shall be neat in time when I can see it. Thanks for the thoughts, anon.
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>>23884477
Oops, that anon isn't me. As I said, I have rather mixed feelings about the series. Since we seem to have similar tastes, you'll probably confirm your preconceptions, but it's still worth watching to understand the medium.
>>23884469
I think it is at least partially edgy. It clearly goes overboard with its aesthetic pretentiousness and pathos, which, in my opinion, borders on a twisted self-indulgence in misery. I think its value lies more in its ability to portray immorality and, in doing so, lead to a certain internal confrontation, but I can't help thinking that it goes too far and is somehow contaminated with its sick and morbid elements.
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>>23776315
This is how you get a UTI, don't do this
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>>23884591
O shit. Thanks for the opinion still, and yeah, I'm still gonna watch EVA eventually.
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>>23884391
>neneka squad
FTFY
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>>23884391
Spoil me...do they die?
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>>23775874
God I miss Gundam Arsenal.
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>>23885133
This is Victory Gundam you should be asking do any of them live?
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Everyone on /r/gundam thinks Katejina was a horrible character.
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>>23884469
Didn't anyone tell him alcohol is a depressant? He only made it worse!
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>>23872652
mysteriously butter-colored wall there
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Idk what the fuck is going on in this thread but even completely irrespective of Eva being edgy or not it has an objectively uplifting and positive core message so I'm not sure what people here are talking about.
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>>23886930
What, just because everybody applauded and congratulated the MC at the end of the series?
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>>23888300
Good thing they ran out of funding for the last two episodes, huh?
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>>23886597
>plebbit is full of... plebs!
no shit
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Is she a Makima ripoff?
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>>23775911
Underage ESLs are so cute when they try to act like human beings.
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>>23884149
>I wish I had as much free time as you.
I guarantee you do absolutely nothing of consequence.
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>>23885133
And what if they do?
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>>23890344
I think the creator took some inspiration from makima.
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>>23885133
Marbet ends up pregnant with Oliver's child and marries him.
Shakti and Uso run away and fall in love with each other. She ends up bearing him 13+ children. This is in the first five episodes.
Fuala gets executed for being a brutal nutjob.
Lupe successfully molests Uso, and is executed by BESPA. The last shot is of a smile on her face.
The entire Shrike team live and become Uso's concubins. Shakti tolerates this.
Katejina dies.

Sorry for spoiling the whole show for you.
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sex with katejina.
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>>23892381
That shit with Lupe was crazy, but important for Shakti's character development and becoming more tolerant. First five episodes were definitely off with that whole 13+ children deal, but it was telegraphed with Karl. Everything else is an accurate description of the story, except Marbet getting married to Oliver and having his kid. This never happened.
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>>23884438
I could see this type of perception leading to Anno wanting to give a happier more cathartic ending for Eva in the Rebuilds.
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>>23890344
Pretty sure this predates CSM by over two and a half decades.
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>>23892516
What was her problem?
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>>23894412
She went the career woman route while fucking a superior. She then realized it left her unfulfilled and projected her insecurity as a lack of a child to raise, and Usso, being right there, ended receiving the brunt of her lunacy. It briefly comes up during her first major appearance and comes back with a vengeance in her last.
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>>23894420
>She went the career woman route while fucking a superior.
Sounds like conjecture.
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>>23892931
csm takes place in the 90s, retard
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Zanscare is uniquely hypocritical because they preach Woman as the path to peace yet force their girls and young women to unsex themselves into weapons.
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>>23895853
You literally see this in the show, they don't even try to hide it.
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>>23883615
Wasn't Tomino's whole thing with Victory was that he was trying to make a bad Gundam show on purpose? He was going through that crash out about his shows being used as glorified toy commercials during that time.
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>>23896114
>he was trying to make a bad Gundam show on purpose
no, that's just dumb myth.
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I still don't get why she's so popular in Japan when Victory Gundam is constantly getting clowned on by the fandom there...
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>>23896167
>clowned on
Wtf does that even mean?
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>>23897423
To be made fun of.
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>>23876842
>warcrimes
Hey that's anti-semite. >>23776159
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>>23896167
What's with the tongue?
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>>23899040
She's thirsting.
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>>23775874
>Fuck Katejina
Yes
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What's the inlore reason as to why she likes to expose her cleavage when wearing her pilot suit?
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Why did those goons sexually assault her?
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>>23884149
You can't trust the general consensus of uncritical masses of people who are mostly ignorant of literature, storytelling devices, cinematic techniques, and so on. There's less than 10 good shows in MAL's top 100. That being said, Victory is pretty bad. Despite its perceived quality, I like the show for personal reasons. You gotta watch it for yourself.
>>23886930
People genuinely have no idea what they're talking about.
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>>23896167
For a character that's popular she has very little art.
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>>23899042
For what?
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>>23900311
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>>23900744
But he's dead.
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>I fucking told you to invite lalah, but you didn't want to promote my 'mother complex', whatever the fuck that means.
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New here. She's a terrible person but I kinda dig her design. is it wrong to think that she's attractive?
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>>23902908
>is it wrong to think
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>>23901689
Except now he's exchanged a prospective mother figure with a psychotic elder sister figure.
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>>23904075
Sounds like a more or less even tradeoff.
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>>23901689
It's like she's not even trying to hide the fact that she's conspiring something.



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