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My favorite version of Kos-Mos is the one from Also sprach Zarathustra because she's canonically part super robot.
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>>23794339
Shit taste.
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>>23794339
And Coco designed it. He was the slickest and sexiest of mecha designers on the scene in the 00s.
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>>23794404
I know they make hundreds if mecha musume plamo now but I miss busou shinkis
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Xeno a shit
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>>23794404
>He was the slickest and sexiest of mecha designers on the scene in the 00s.

He still is, even if he had to design for some garbage, like when he got pegged to be 2nd artist for IS.

but on the otherhand he gave us Melusine/Tam Lim Lancelot
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>>23794476
I still have a bunch from back in the day. When I pop them out they are still a totally different design and quality to most other figures in this day and age.

We absolutely lost something special when Konami axed the line. Hell, you can say that about a lot of Konami stuff.
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>>23795135
>>23794476
Their stability is out of this world. No other toy's as easily and smoothly to pose as the Shinkis.
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>>23794678
IS is great though.
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>>23794350
What's that? El-Hazard?
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>>23795135
I always forget they're a Konami property. They even had a Vic Viper and Lord British girl
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>>23794339
The DS game fan translation of chapters 1 to 3 just got released as a kind of teaser recently if you didn't know. I'm waiting till the whole thing is released.
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>>23803317
What DS game?
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>>23805700
Xenosaga 1+2
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>>23805724
So, what, is it the PS2 games re-released as visual novels or something?
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>>23803317
Why would you play the DS game when you can just play the PS2 games on an emulator.

You are being extremely silly. Just play the original games. DS has lower fidelity in visuals and sound.
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>>23806185
Because the DS version actually has more content. It's the definitive version of 2 at the very least. 1 is more arguable but at the very least it's not inferior.
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>>23806185
2's on foot combat blows, the modified ep 1 combat in 1+2 is a massive step up
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>>23806147
Remake of the first 2 games using ep 1's battle system
tons of differences in part 2
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>>23806195
>>23806316
Good because XS II was awful when it came out.
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>>23806318
>tons of differences in part 2
Just the battle system or were there additional changes?
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>>23806185
You would NOT even fix your fucking mouth to say something like that if you played Xenosaga II LMAO
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>>23809413
Shouldn't that be Grahf issuing the ultimatum?
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>>23795242
lol
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>>23794404
>Coco
Literally who?
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>>23814169
Artist behind much of the work for Xenosaga as Tanaka was getting tired of working with the drama of the Takahashi et al
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>>23814169
major artist for the Xeno franchise. Also did FGO's Melusine
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>>23814271
>Tanaka was getting tired of working with the drama of the Takahashi et al
Wait, what?
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>>23816528
Answers?
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>>23816528
>>23819291
Tanaka came back for XBX, but he was in other projects around the time of the Sagas
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my favorite was version 3 because it had exposed midriff
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The thread where no one can spell Mugitani's pen name correctly.
It's CHOCO.
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>>23821228
It's been 20 years, the names and places of things just fading away
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>>23806363
you didnt even enjoy the battle system. it was its only saving grace, in my opinion.
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>>23821228
>Mugitani
Enlighten me.
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>>23820600
So what's all that stuff >>23814271 mentioned?
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>>23822053
Answers?
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>>23826625
Xeno a shit to work for basically
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>>23827005
Elaborate.
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>>23829174
Drama, read the history of Monolith
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>>23829292
Elaborate.
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>>23830276
See >>23829292
Xeno a shit
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>>23830754
See >>23830276
Details required.
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>>23832177
Lurk more
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>>23832445
Has it already been discussed? Archive link required.
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>>23833668
Get off your ass and look
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>>23833947
you claimed its out there, it would make sense that you would have a handy link.
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>>23821228
Do there exist scans at a resolution where the text is actually legible?
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>>23794339
>Xenosaga 1 - weird uncanny valley 3D animu model
>Xenosaga 2 - MOK-KOS
>Xenosaga 3 - ABSOLUTE PERFECTION
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Xenosaga II have to be so fucking bad if even CHOCO admitted it was mega crap in his kosmos artbook. You don't see japanese creators being that honest with their creation.
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>>23837098
No real HD scans for the older stuff. Some of his newer releases have decent scans. It's all on ehentai, go take a look.
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>>23837934
Would it be too much to hope the older stuff still exists to scan in HD?
>ehentai
They downsize their gallery images, and I don't feel like going through their BS to get access to the full-size image files.
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>>23837217
>>Xenosaga 1 - weird uncanny valley 3D animu model

It actually works quite well for her.
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>>23809413
I only goon to Kos Mos and Telos but what specifically was wrong with XS2?
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>>23841434
The combat system all about guarding for the first few turns to build up stock so you can combo.
No shops.
A sidequest where you need to earn like 20 million, the best way to do it is to fight and mug the final boss over and over and over.
Can fail sidequests and lock you out of good stuff
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>>23841478
Namco fucked over the staff and rushed whole thing, XS1 was supposed to be one big fat game but they had ton of development issues and battle engine only got ironed out like few months before release, as result XS2 is pretty much XG disk 2.
DS and XS3 development went smooth and fixed whatever issues but at this point they decided to move away from Bandai Namco.
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>>23841827
The day Scamco sells the Xenosaga IP to Monolithsoft can't come soon enough
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>>23842132
https://nintendoeverything.com/monolith-soft-reflects-on-moving-from-namco-to-nintendo/

Squaresoft, now SE, still behaves like a bunch of fratboys, they are creative but management is terrible. Namco stopped giving a shit fast despite XS success due Bandai merger and changes on management, then NOA almost fuck everything up because they hate RPGs.

Really amusing given that XB wasn't supposed to be a xeno entry at all, Iwata suggested the name to honor dev previous works and shit went downhill after that. At least Perfect Works finally going be a thing.
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>>23841434
It is so unlike your typical JRPG. You can't do the kind of upgrades you want and get new toys and have side quests. Plus the story is kind of disconjoined and you just go to like mystery places in the past.

That in the battle system is boring and most character designs were changed to be worse. I was a huge fan of Treasure of the Rusrad, XS1, and XG and downright despised playing XS2.

I loved 3 and, for what it's worth, the rest of the entries in the series. XBs
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>>23841827
DS?
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>>23843044
Xenosaga 1+2 DS.

Japan only but a fan translation is in the works
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>Siren model kit use bunch of perfect works terms
>1DE retcon bunch of crap
>3 redo gears and FR drop any pretenses to lore dump
>X port add more fucking shit

Man, that's fucked because at end blade loops back onto Saga. Producer note for pied piper port even refer whole thing as "Xeno"world rather than being specific, guess that Nintendo finally solved some issues but I really hope they actually buy whole ip than doing something like Bayonetta.
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>>23844779
Translation please
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Dammit.

I went looking for her because I know I had one. All the accessories except the R blade are gone. I got so miffed I had to order another one from Japan.
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>>23844995
Xenogears was supposed to be some big epic sprawling 12 games or so, it obviously got gutted due production issues. Saga is another attempt from a different point on timeline but again production issues forced staff to wrap up everything in 2 and a half game.

Xenoblade started development as some sort of unrelated game at least at first, fast forward to XB3 and whole crap is connected to xenosaga, more specific lost Jerusalem stuff.
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>>23845399
Was it ever explained why they changed from Sony to Nintendo?
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>>23845993
Monolith soft was the team behind chrono games and xenogears even got proposed as FF7, after chrono cross they decided to make own studio and move away from Squaresoft. Now on namco they had ton of development and management issues on top of bandai-namco merger, after baten kaitos they moved to Nintendo thanks to some industry connections, and nintendo own whole studio despite common misconception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFFbP-APoU

Happy ending I guess.
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>>23846059
>Nintendo
>Happy ending
LOL
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>>23846059
Nintendo, like all the other entertainment companies in Japan, are black and use violence and slave labor to keep employees squished under management's thumb.

It's hardly a step up
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>>23846974
>>23847530
>t.SEAposters
If they had stayed under Bamco, or went to Sony instead Takahashi would have long since retired in shame after Monado 1, when it had the same exact production problems as Xenosaga and Sony would have killed them in their JP studios purge.
Similar outcome if they went independent or if Sega had purchased them.
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>>23847748
XB1 and X were impressive enough for nintendo put nearly whole staff on Zelda development even if means outsource XB2 hard. It really paid off, XB2 ended up being really successful and zelda is zelda, on top of that monolith got a whole new building to assist development while main staff keep busy with their own projects on top of having carte blanche to do whole perfect works autismo.
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>>23847748
>[citation needed]

>>23847861
ESL much?
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>>23794339
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>>23848180
>citation needed
have you seen what bandai did to namco tales studio and banpresto? those were their top earners at the time. it'll probably get raped by restructuring in 2017 and 2023.
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this series has everything
>chaos
>Dual wielding mature and immature
>More
>ffm bait
>Nina Purpleton as a brunette
>a satisfying ending for people who pirate it
>not losing your v card because of a power tripping bouncer
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>>23809412
Battle and story changes, it focuses more on Shion and KOS-MOS
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>>23848551
>it'll probably get raped by restructuring in 2017 and 2023.
>It'll
>'ll
You realize 2017 and 2023 have already passed, don't you?
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>>23848551
>Nina Purpleton as a brunette

CAN'T UNSEE
But at least she didn't shoot her brother or Alan over Kevin being all evil.
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>>23847861
>XB1 and X were impressive enough for nintendo put nearly whole staff on Zelda development even if means outsource XB2 hard.
Sasuga Nintendo. Utterly shameless.
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Shion, Hillbert effect activated. Engaging target.

https://youtu.be/5j6Og8Q9WH4
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>>23851646
That neck tho
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>>23851722
これでど
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>>23851007
Seems Monolith couldn't get a break if someone died and willed it to them.
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>>23851646
Where did you get this bootleg ass figure?
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>>23852540
That's a real Max Factory Figma. It's identical to the one I have from years ago >>23845185
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>>23852540
>>23852745
https://www.goodsmile.com/en/product/833/figma+KOS-MOS+ver.4
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>>23845185
What happened to them?
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>>23852439
Xeno as a whole is cursed to never become what it originally was. Project Noah
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>>23855006
Not sure which franchise switching platforms I'm more upset about: Xeno or Zero.
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>>23856542
Xeno is cursed
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>>23858063
But why tho?
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>>23860289
Ask the corporate suits; they're the ones who keep insisting on meddling with the projects.
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>>23862366
I'll never understand why they insist on doing stuff like that. It's not like they're even trying to rein in bad ideas, they're just disrupting the project, alienating their staff and making the final work worse than it otherwise would've been.
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>>23864030
Narrative control
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>>23866582
Elaborate.
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>>23867429
Some people don’t want to allow full creativity
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>>23867566
But why tho?
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>>23868100
Control



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