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>>23863945

Not fucking me daily

>>23863945
worthless body double.

>>23863945
Not receiving enough dicking, like most women.

Inherited aristocratic power going to someone uninterested in wielding it

Eating a hotdog melted her brain.

>>23863945
Incompetent

>>23863945
>Raised by two sluts
>Two guys are now fighting over for her

Char and Haman's fault

>>23863945
Being stuck in a low-effort thread with a stock phrase in the OP.

Does she have any real power or is she just a figurehead?

>>23865460
it’s complicated, she has no legal power but. She has the ability to get what she wants in reactive

>>23865460
She officially has no legal authority, but she has de facto authority because of the threat she represents and the loyalty to her family name. Basically she yields invisible reins, and it's likely related to the reason Zeon rejoins the Federation in 0100 UC.

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She has zero problems and is a perfect angel raised in a loving and mentally stable household.

>>23865478
>and it's likely related to the reason Zeon rejoins the Federation in 0100 UC.
Never happened in canon

>>23865882
>canon
NTA but Gundam canon changes like every five years. If it isn't canon today, it will be tomorrow or the day after.

>>23865882
I feel like an out of the loop retard, but did I miss something? What happened with the Republic of Zeon?

>>23863945
Sore Domo

>>23865994
>What happened with the Republic of Zeon?
Exactly what >>23865478 said. This guy >>23865882 just doesn't want Unicorn or Narrative to be canon.

>>23866596
I was gonna say, I was pretty sure the statement about its independence dissolving was accurate. In a way it's kind of unfortunate, it would've been interesting to have around as basically an anachronistic relic into Late UC but I guess Mars sort of fills that role already.

>>23866596
Again. Republic of Zeon wasn't actually dissolved in those movies.

>>23866712
because it was still like ~4 years away from the deadline to be merged back into the federation

>>23866719
4 years is a long time. We don't actually know what truly happens.

And to be honest the events of Zeta and ZZ Gundam make the original reunification treaty void.

Spacenoids are retarded

>>23866807
>4 years is a long time. We don't actually know what truly happens.
In real life, bureaucracy and legal bullshit means that ~10 years before rejoining, you already need to start planning on how the changeover works in regards to laws and governance, especially about how to maintain a functional government system and handover of power and responsibilities. Saying "they might not want to rejoin the Federation in 4 years" is silly because it implies Side 3 has not been working on reunification or has not made their stance clear on whether they're working towards it or not. Unless databooks or Bandai decide to retcon in a tense situation about spacenoid independence taking place in UC 0099~0100 because Side 3 refused to rejoin and tensions got high, the assumption is that Side 3 rejoined the Federation because Side 3 sure as hell isn't considered a hostile\rogue state in late UC. I don't doubt that the Feds would make economic sanctions or even openly threaten war if Side 3 didn't comply and rejoin.

>And to be honest the events of Zeta and ZZ Gundam make the original reunification treaty void.
In what way? Side 3 (threatened into) assisting the Titans would have been perfect excuse for the Feds to occupy and takeover Side 3 for being (unwilling) accomplices to the Titans but the Feds let it slide as if nothing happened. ZZ had the Feds "look the other way" while Haman occupied one of Side 3's colonies. What part of either of that is supposed to cancel treaty stipulations for Side 3 to rejoin the Federation in ~13 years from that point?

>>23866843
4 years is long enough to wage an entire war. Look at the crazy wars that happened during the 0080s to early 0090s. Only a few years between each one


>What part of either of that is supposed to cancel treaty stipulations for Side 3

You mean OTHER than the Federation descending into a total Civil war and both sides of that war threatening the colonies destruction? Titans threatening to blow up colonies unless they get supplies, and the AEUG saying they will agree to give Side 3 to Neo Zeon. Yeah pretty sure the Treaty is void at that point. The original Federation they signed the treaty with doesn't even exist anymore at that point.

Then the Federation refusing to protect Side 3 from Neo Zeon taking it. Treaty is double void.

Then the Federation rebuilding the Colony Laser and threatening any Colony that doesn't fall in line during Unicorn. Yeah treaty is triple void.

>>23866843
>the assumption is that Side 3 rejoined the Federation because Side 3
That's not how it works. Unless we see it happen on screen, then it's not canon. That's the only absolute golden rule that Bandai has set. Manga, databooks, novels, etc do not count. Only the animation itself.

Besides the events of the upcoming Unicorn 2 are supposed to cover 0100. For all we know there could be another huge war.

>>23866843
I would think the Federation offering Side 3 as slave tribute to Neo Zeon breaks any signed agreement. I'm sure slavery is not part of the agreement

>>23866852
Neither Titans nor AEUG actually toppled the Federation government though.

>Then the Federation refusing to protect Side 3 from Neo Zeon taking it. Treaty is double void.

They eventually do go there by the end of the series though. It's just a slow (corrupt) bureaucracy.

It's also an internal side 3 dispute. It's not like they were taken by an outside force.

>Then the Federation rebuilding the Colony Laser and threatening any Colony that doesn't fall in line during Unicorn. Yeah treaty is triple void.

The Federation wins this conflict and the Sleeve are annihilated though. Why would they declare the treaty null when it'd just justify the Federation forcefully taking them by that point?

>>23867039

>It's also an internal side 3 dispute. It's not like they were taken by an outside force.
Incorrect. The Federation formally recognized that Neo Zeon Axis was a different force than the Government of Side 3. Therefore the Side 3 treaty was null and void when the AEUG and the Federation gave Side 3 to Axis forces.

>Why would they declare the treaty null when it'd just justify the Federation forcefully taking them by that point?
1. Because by that point control of Side 3 had changed hands and old agreement do not apply. It's a different government now.

2. It doesn't justify anything. You don't seem to understand that any agreement signed under threat is illegal under international law.

Side 3 would be legally well within their rights to declare the original 30 year agreement to be null and void by that point.

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Imagine if they had a biological kid together.

>>23863970
Speaking of parrots...

>>23867548
>Incorrect. The Federation formally recognized that Neo Zeon Axis was a different force than the Government of Side 3. Therefore the Side 3 treaty was null and void when the AEUG and the Federation gave Side 3 to Axis forces.

Like I said, neither AEUG nor Titans actually upended the Federation government. AEUG promises aren't Federation promises until they've gone through the Federation.

And for Neo Zeon, like I said, the Federation army did go there eventually to take down Neo Zeon, just took a while. In the real world this kind of thing can take a while too.

>>23867548
>Side 3 would be legally well within their rights to declare the original 30 year agreement to be null and void by that point.

I don't think you're getting my point. Side 3 was secretly sponsoring the Sleeves. They sleeves are beaten and the Laplace box reveal had no immediate effect on the Federation's power. It'd make no sense to then suddenly attempt to declare independence again when they're in such a weakened position.

>>23868924
Any government that fails to uphold the their end of agreement means the agreement is null and void. If the Federation promises protection and security but then their military threatens to blow up your colonies, then the agreement is void.

I don't think you understand how the Federation fell apart during Zeta Gundam. Multiple branches of the government were trying to kill eachother. Politicians were assassinating eachother. Everyone was choosing sides between Titans and AEUG. And the Titans were literally hours away from controlling the entire Earth with their new Colony Laser weapon. They were only stopped at the last second by plot armor of the AEUG.


>I don't think you're getting my point. Side 3 was secretly sponsoring the Sleeves.

The Sleeves were tiny force and their loss doesn't affect Side 3. It was a side project created through a few politicians personal funds and donations from AE. The Sleeves were (barely) funded through multiple sympathizers with irregular donations. And even then, the Sleeves had to use mostly old equipment and leftover hardware from previous wars. Their force was tiny and they barely had enough food to feed themselves.

>>23863945
So what is she up to during HF? Does she do anything other than go to dates with Banagher?

>>23869555
Unicorn 2 is supposed to address all of this but the anime has been delayed by several years. The rumor is that the writer is having trouble with the story from what I hear.
Tomino wasn't happy with Uniforn and NT and spoke to him personally.


Originally, Tomino said in interviews years ago that Mineva escaped Neo Zeon and lived the rest of her life as a normal happy child with a new identity. He said it's important to him that Mineva gets to live a happy normal life after all she's been through as a child.

I guess seeing Unicorn bring back Mineva and turn her into Zeon puppet didn't make Tomino happy.

>>23869566
You're a fucking retard
Unicorn wasn't some anime first OG story
it was an entire series of light novels before it was adapted
If Tomino had any objections he could have changed at any time in either the original publication or adaptation process or re-cutting
also, Audrey is the fake

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>>23863945
Problem?

>>23869639
>Zabi
She’s a Serb

>>23869625
Are you...are you...seriously mad that Tomino didn't get mad... sooner? So you are telling at me? Do you have any idea how foolish you sound?

>also, Audrey is the fake
Maybe but you would think all the newtypes around her would detect she's a fake with their newtype senses. Especially Full Frontal who wanted to seize full political power and control all Neo Zeon factions.

>>23869680
>Are you...are you...seriously mad that Tomino didn't get mad... sooner?
NTA but anon very obviously isn't saying that, no, and I can't work out how you arrived at the idea that he is.

>>23869698
>I can't work out how you arrived at the idea that he is.


>If Tomino had any objections he could have changed at any time in either the original publication or adaptation

>>23869736
Yes, anon, I read the post. How are you getting from there to "are you seriously mad that Tomino didn't get mad sooner"?

>>23869736
Bandai doesn't run everything by him.

>>23869625
Tomino doesn't read every single Gundam manga or novel that is released. He prefers to not even watch UC Gundam. Tomino thinks UC is concluded in his mind. He prefers original works or AU Gundam

>>23869503
>If the Federation promises protection and security but then their military threatens to blow up your colonies, then the agreement is void.

The Titans were dismantled and the AEUG ultimately came under Federation control.

>The Sleeves were tiny force and their loss doesn't affect Side 3.

Side 3's prime minister himself was backing them. We aren't talking about some minor political force. If facing the Federation directly were an option, we wouldn't see them resorting to this. They aren't going along with the treaty due to good will, it's because by that point Zeon doesn't have resources to actually challenge the Federation directly.

>>23869639
Yeah, AIslop.

>>23866843
>I don't doubt that the Feds would make economic sanctions or even openly threaten war if Side 3 didn't comply and rejoin.
That sure sounds familiar

>>23870695
>The Titans were dismantled
lol, lmao even

>>23869763
>He prefers original works or AU Gundam
Others' or his own?

>>23873976
>Others or his own?
If someone is making a Gundam anime, Tomino prefers original AU stories and for them to leave UC Gundam alone now. He believes the true UC story ended with CCA. (F91 and Victory were "soft reboots" that were not related to older stories).

Tomino has said good things about G Gundam, Gundam Wing, and Gundam Seed. Most recently Tomino personally went to go see Gundam Seed Freedom and praised it.

>>23873999
Then I guess he wouldn't care for 0080. Bummer.

>>23875141
Someone asked Tomino about the OVAs (0083, 08th MS Team, Etc) and Tomino said he didn't watch them, and he doesn't personally consider them to be UC Gundam. It's like watching someone else draw on your painting after you already finished it.

Yes that includes Unicorn and NT too. Tomino didn't really like them either based on few things he saw. He didn't like how Unicorn/NT brought back Mineva Zabi and kept reusing old ideas like colony drops and colony lasers. Tomino said he intended for Mineva to escape her Zeon past, and live out the rest of her days as a happy ordinary girl with a new identity.

One producer said Tomino even came into the studio one day and had a private meeting with the writers of Unicorn/NT. He gave them a long lecture and told them they needed to be more original and come up with own unique ideas. Not to reuse the same ideas he already explored in his previous works.

>>23875218
Well, he's not wrong about all the rehashing.

>>23875218
I maintain that Unicorn would never have been written if Sunrise hadn't dropped the ball on ZZ so hard, leaving later writers with the unhappy chore of finding ways to fill in ZZ's most glaring omissions and worst fuck-ups.

>>23876425
That's what the Zeta movies are for and the new ending. Tomino deleted ZZ Gundam and gave everyone a happier ending.

Neo Zeon decides the political situation is too unstable and can't be trusted. It's not worth fighting over and wasting their resources trying to control the Earthsphere. They just wanted to live in peace and decide not to wage war. So Neo Zeon and Haman decides to leave the Earthsphere. Haman says they are taking multiple refugee ships that belong to the AEUG and Titans with them. Anyone who is sick of the Federation leaves with Haman and Neo Zeon. One big fleet migration. It's not said where this big Neo Zeon/Refugee combined Fleet goes, but I like to believe they left for Mars to start their own civilization away from the Federation. Perhaps they became Mars Zeon?

Axis asteroid is abandoned due to excessive damage in the final battle with the Titans. Axis is left empty floating in space.

This directly leads into CCA. During the 7 year time skip, Char watches the Federation to see if they will finally honor their promises they made to the AEUG. They have 7 years with no war to fulfill their promises. These include reforming the government, giving Spacenoids the right to vote and more Freedom, fixing the environment on Earth, and pushing more Earthnoids to go to space to allow the Earth heal.

Unfortunately the Federation didn't honor any of their Zeta Gundam era promises. So Char starts his own new Neo Zeon rebellion. He summons whatever leftover Zeon remnants, that didn't leave with Haman earlier, to fight under his banner (which explains his Force's small size. Char is scraping the bottom of the barrel). Char takes the empty Axis asteroids and tries to drop it on Earth.

Honestly the movie ending makes more sense than whatever story ZZ Gundam was trying to tell. Haman and Neo Zeon chooses peace. They take people sick of the Federation with them, and they leave to start their own civilization elsewhere. More hopeful ending.

Tomino is an out of touch boomer.

>>23869625
>Audrey is the fake
As of moon, that is exceedingly unlikely unless there is a second body double. She SHOULD be the fake, but it's very likely she isn't.

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Audrey is good actually.

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>>23872565
>AIslop

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>>23872565
>Yeah, AIslop.
Wouldn't it be neat if 4chan had some kind of built-in image search option that lets you look up a picture like >>23869639 on sites like danbooru?

Wouldn't it be extra neat if you could then also (with your own two eyes!) check the pic's upload date?

And wouldn't it be be extra, extra neat if you could then (using all two digits of your IQ!) infer if the pic predates the advent of slop?

Oh well, guess you'll never know for sure.

>>23877722
The people who whone about AI art are often times some of the dumbest posters. But what can you expect from people who are virtue signaling.

>>23877722
>4chan had some kind of built-in image search
It doesn't. Stop imagining.

>>23869625
>also, Audrey is the fake
After thinking about this, I have to agree. Look at the way she is treated. Neo Zeon troops practically man-handle her and physically drag her around. They call her "princess" but there's no respect in their tone or actions. It's almost borderline sarcastic.

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>>23876933
Yeah the story spells it out for you various times that Mooneva isn't the real deal, just like everything in Moon Gundam.

>>23878143
I figured that has more to do with the Sleeves being a Char-adjacent Zeon faction who don't care for the Zabis anymore. Real or fake, it doesn't matter. She's just a symbol to them.

>>23876489
What's the point of redeeming Haman if she's not banging Judau?

>>23876489
>Honestly the movie ending makes more sense than whatever story ZZ Gundam was trying to tell.
No it doesn't. The movie's ending was just a poor attempt at Tomino trying to end the UC wankery there, so that more more people stop missing the point, just Like they missed the entire point of CCA.

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>>23877840
Can we just skip to the part where you say "joke's on you, I was only pretending to be retarded"?

>>23878676
>spoon-feeding retards

>>23878636
Tomino probably wants to forget about ZZ. He's gone on record saying he made mistakes with ZZ and doesn't ever want to revisit it.

>>23878676
4chan doesn't have that function. You are using a 3rd party reverse image search.

>>23879084
>Uh, well, it's, uh, it's technically a third party reverse image search and, uh, not 4chan itself, so that, uh, that made it impossible for me to use it and, uh, check the image source before calling it AI, uh.
Defenestrate yourself.

>>23879091
But you made the claim. And it doesn't disprove it's an AI image

>>23879105
>But you made the claim.
You're illiterate.

>And it doesn't disprove it's an AI image
I can hear your brain cells huddling together for warmth.

>>23879091
>Autodefenestrate.
FTFY

>>23863945
no tits

>>23863945
She preferred the red tunic.

>>23878571
Who's the guy with the sideburns?

>>23882066
Almost looks like Shinn Asuka.

>>23863945
All Zabi's do is fuck up and fail upwards

>>23883687
So, typical politicians.

>>23863945
Consider her upbringing and you tell me.

>>23877190
Why is Marida reacting like that?

>>23888240
Wouldn't you do the same in her position?

>>23889795
Well yeah, I mean if my half sister, though I’m only a clone and she could be fake, took the reigns like that…

>>23891414
>reigns

>>23891618
Well, she is head of state over Side 3, so...

>>23882066
Crack in the water moon-Banana.

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At the end of the day how do you think Mineva feels about Haman and Char? She got mad at Full Frontal for not being Char enough, but I think she maybe even pities, or maybe is afraid of, Haman on some level.

>>23892710
>She got mad at Full Frontal for not being Char enough
She's not the real Mineva. She's the fake impersonator that the Federation captured at the end of ZZ. So her opinion doesn't matter.

Tomino has said several times that the real Mineva escaped Zeon, and lived the rest of her life in peace as a normal happy girl with a new identity. That was the ending he gave for Mineva.

>>23892894
That's Moon Minerva. Unicorn Minerva is the real one, somehow(don't think too hard).

>>23876489
>Neo Zeon decides the political situation is too unstable and can't be trusted. It's not worth fighting over and wasting their resources trying to control the Earthsphere. They just wanted to live in peace and decide not to wage war. So Neo Zeon and Haman decides to leave the Earthsphere. Haman says they are taking multiple refugee ships that belong to the AEUG and Titans with them. Anyone who is sick of the Federation leaves with Haman and Neo Zeon. One big fleet migration. It's not said where this big Neo Zeon/Refugee combined Fleet goes, but I like to believe they left for Mars to start their own civilization away from the Federation. Perhaps they became Mars Zeon?
This is absolutely retarded btw, that quite literally isn't in Haman's character

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>>23892899
You know what is in Haman's character? Acting retarded for some 14 year old dick.

>>23892896
>Unicorn Minerva is the real one, somehow(don't think too hard).
Nope. Tomino said the real Mineva was never found again. That's her ending. He made it very clear in interviews.

Besises you think some ragtag group of poor Neo Zeon remnants with no money and living on scraps has the massive resources required to track down Mineva? Give me a break anon. They can barely feed themselves.

I think we both know the Sleeves just found a random girl that looks like Mineva. Then used her to try recruit more Zeon troops who used to be loyal to Zabis.

>>23892901
precisely

>>23892903
Okay, but Tomino didn't write Unicorn.

>>23892906
Unicorn never explicitly said it was the real Mineva either. Banagher calls her Audrey. He's obsessed with calling her Audrey.

>>23892912
Yeah, because that is who he fell in love with. Who she really is and her name and her legacy don't matter to him. He is the one person in the story where her being Mineva Zabi doesn't matter to them. He doesn't call her that because she is a body double.

>>23892906
Fukui said Tomino is someone he really admires and respects. He's someone Fukui looks up to. So it's really unlikely he would undo Tomino's ending for Mineva.

So why should I care about anything that happens in Unicorn if she is just some random body double? Doesn't that make the character and overall plot way less interesting when the stakes are lowered?

>>23892925
Tomino got fucking pissed at him for exactly that reason, because he undid Tomino's ending for her.

>>23892927
No because it's all Poetry.

Full Frontal is a fake. Not the real Char.

Audrey is a fake. Not the real Mineva.

The Sleeves are not authentic and secretly being funded by some politicians.

The Federation military secretly allows the Sleeves because they need an enemy to justify their massive spending. They could obliterate the Sleeves in a day if they really wanted to.

The Federation government is fake and not legitimate. Some elites within the government killed their legitimate Prime Minister decades ago and replaced him with Puppets.

Everyone is playing a role.

It's supposed be ironic and tragically sad.

>>23892919
Or Banagher looked into Audrey's soul with his newtype powers and discovered the truth. She was an actress playing a role

I don't understand how people can get such wildy different readings of the same piece of media. I feel like I watched a completely different OVA from some of you. I never got the idea she was a fake at all.

>>23892976
You don't think the way they drag her around, physical handle her poorly, and have no respect for her as royalty wasn't a hint? The real Mineva was literally worshipped in ZZ by Zeon. In Unicorn, she's dragged around like a dog by an unimportant Cargo ship captain. Think about it anon.

>>23892927
Because it's even more compelling. She's basically an actress that is stuck in a role that never ends. She can only survive by accepting her new life as Mineva. If she steps out of line, then she probably gets killed. Many good Hollywood movies had similar plots.

>>23892976
>I never got the idea she was a fake at all.
Didn't you watch ZZ? Mineva has been missing since Zeta Gundam. She's long gone.

>>23892988
Haman's neo zeon, char's neo zeon, and full frontal's neo zeon are basically entirely seperate organizations. The actual fake is in moon anyway, Audrey is someone else.

>>23893162
Those are all fake. The real Mineva is probably living with Sayla.

>>23893174
Nope. You can say thanks to Fukui for that.

>>23893195
Fukui never said she was the real Mineva. He explicitly avoided saying that. You would know this if you read the source material.

And since Tomino yelled at him recently, it wouldn't surprise me if Unicorn 3 reveals she's the fake Mineva yet again.

>>23893201
He explicitly put the fake in moon. Which means Unicorn doesn't have the fake.
>and since tomino yelled at him
Tomino yelled at him because he put the real Mineva in Unicorn.

>>23893209
Or they are both fakes. Obviously.

>>23893222
That's unlikely, we have only ever seen a single fake.

>>23893236
We literally saw 2 fakes. One in ZZ. One in moon. We don't even know if they are the same fakes. that's not even addressing the fact that Puru looks a lot like Mineva, and the ridiculous cloning technology that was never addressed again in Gundam.

>>23893260
The one in moon is explicitly the one from ZZ.

>>23893265
No one knows for sure anon

>>23892973
And yet, he still let her give him a Sore Domo.

>>23893201
>And since Tomino yelled at him recently
Again? You know for someone that keeps telling directors to do something different, he gets touchy whenever they try to do things.

>>23893201
> Unicorn 3
Officially it's Unicorn 2. If Fukui has any care for the overall plot, he'll find a way to have Banana and Mineva get on the exit ramp and leave the scene. Even in Narrative their importance to the plot was almost nothing. Banana is some fixer for Mineva who is a steward of a rump state that's about to be reabsorbed into the Federation in a couple of years. The whole Laplace Box did nothing and accomplished nothing.

>>23892901
Is pic somehow related?

>>23892927
>So why should I care about anything that happens in Unicorn
Now you're getting it.

>>23894253
Isn't Gundam NT considered the 2nd Unicorn anime?

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>>23863945
Banana didn't mating press her until she was a drooling, giggling retard mess semblance of a human being. That's what her problem was.

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>>23894496
You think she was taught sex ed on Axis? Haman ever talk to her about the birds and the bees?

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Which Mineva was the best Mineva?

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>>23894516
They are all precious and must be protected at all costs.

Just finished Unicorn. Was pretty great, loved it. Is NT worth watching?

>>23894535
It's more of the same. Only difference is the animation switches to pure 100% hand drawn animation to honor the Gundam anniversary it was released on.

>>23894548
>Only difference is the animation switches to pure 100% hand drawn animation
You sold me. Never was a fan of CG, but unicorn did it well enough that it blended in most of the time. If it's fully hand drawn I'm grabbing it now.

>>23894496
But what about Sore Domo?

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>>23894641
>This is what awaits you, Banana. You are to be peeled, your skin browned and discarded on the floor for a fool to slip on.
EVEN SO!

>>23894496
Banana is the one getting penetrated in their relationship.

>>23894520
The thumbnail looks like he's got a huge mop of hair.

>>23892901
That is exactly inline with a scornful cat lady who still cannot get over hwr first

Thankfully the failure of Narrative and the success of Hathaway means we will never see a Unicorn 2

>>23896518
I refuse to watch Hathaway after how much of a tremendous retard he was in CCA.
Unicorn was great.

>>23896534
Hathaway is an incredibly well written character even though he doesn't behave the way you would in his situation.

>>23896534
I hated him when I first watched CCA too but then I watched the first film and read the novels and realized he's a very interesting and well rounded character which is more than can be said for literally anyone in Unicorn

>>23896541
Yeah, Unicorn maybe has the most forgettable cast in any Universal Century entry.

>>23896534
>I refuse to watch Hathaway after how much of a tremendous retard he was in CCA.
Same. I can not stand Hathaway. He's a murderer who killed his teammates in CCA. I'm not interested in movie that makes him sympathetic.

>Unicorn was great.
I only liked Unicorn's music and high quality animation.


>>23896518
>Thankfully the failure of Narrative and the success of Hathaway means we will never see a Unicorn 2
Success? Hathaway gunpla model sales are not that great. Bandai is not pleased. The bulk of profits come from gunpla sales.

Unicorn saga has record breaking gunpla sales. So yes. We are getting more Unicorn.

>>23896534
>>23897511
>talking about fictional people like they're real people who committed real crimes
You're a moron and deserve Unicorn.

>>23897530
You seem very confused anon. It's okay to dislike fictional characters. Unicorn and Hathaway are both bottom of the barrel.

>>23863945
>The Federation haven't formed a glowie agency to take her out and trigger a new war parallel to the middle eastern wars.
This premise would've been great to be honest.

>>23896534
>>23897511
filtered chanfag.

>>23897545
Why would you wipe out controlled opposition?

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The only fictional character I've hated to the point of a blind rage where I had to drop their show after two episodes is this awful piece of shit.

>>23897587
1 out of 10.
Terrible bait.

>>23897511
Mafty is a hero and disrespect on his name will not be tolerated

>>23879105
Dude, you got BTFO, take the L.

>>23892912
>>23892960
I never even considered she was a body double, my mind went straight to both of these. I like the way it all lines up.

>>23892976
>I don't understand how people can get such wildy different readings of the same piece of media.
That's what it's like when people just watch something and interpret it based on what details stick out to them and what thoughts occur to them, as opposed to not watching it, and instead watching their favourite streamerfaggot so the braindead attention whore can spoonfeed them the 'correct' (by virtue of everyone parroting it over the top of other, equally valid interpretations) interpretation.

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>>23899312
So people who create essays that use the narrative to back up their opinion are bad, and we should just come up with our own interpretation of a text based on what we think is cool?

Okay.

>>23897587
t. cuckaway

>>23898300
*mufti

>>23899325
In literature analysis, Death of the author is possible. But you have to back it up with plausible evidence. Regarding the claim that Mineva in Unicorn is not the real Mineva, I can see it being a possibility. She's definitely not treated with respect. It's like she's dragged around like a pet or a dog.

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>>23899333
Mineva was dragged around like a dog and treated like a pet by Haman in Zeta. She was never really respected, never held any real power or authority her entire life, and her arc in Unicorn is her finally finding her own voice.

>>23899338
No. In Zeta she was at least treated with surface level respect and stayed in a large and well protected battleship. She may not have power, but Mineva still had status.

In Unicorn, she's being dragged around on a tiny Cargo ship by an old man for some reason, and she has to stay on a dusty dark room.

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>>23899361
Because Full Frontal doesn't emotionally give a fuck about her like Char and Haman did?

It is so complex. Char feels bad for Mineva because he killed two members of her family, and knows what it is like to be born into a family with a powerful name, so he feels bad for her. Haman, I think, feels bad for her because she also knows what it is like to be given such responsibility at such a young age. They are shit people, Haman used her, but in the end they both protected her and shielded her from the shit things they did.

Full Frontal has no reason to treat her well or with any respect. If anything it is what he thinks the real Char would do because she is a Zabi.

>>23899367
Considering Full Frontal wants Audrey to cooperate with him, you would expect Full Frontal to treat her with a little more respect.

>>23899389
Why should Char respect a Zabi?

>>23899338
>her arc in Unicorn is her finally finding her own voice.
After hearing what she had to say maybe she should've shut the fuck up

>>23897511
>He's a murderer who killed his teammates
He was 13 lmao, what do you mean teammates? He was not even supposed to be there he hijacked a Mobile Suit.

You have to actually be loyal to a side to betray in the first place