What the fuck was Banrise problem with Shinn? They excluded him from the other Gundam protagonists in the 50th anniversary video
>>23873077Sorry, anon. Only MCs with a full tenure as a main character counts. Shinn's run got hijacked.
his role as protag literally gets hijacked by kira its like if in zz halfway through the show kamille, instead of fucking off and being happy, shows up back at the argama to rejoin the aeug and judau joins haman and gets completely brainwashed by her and now kamille needs to beat the shit out of judau with his new super cool zeta gundam mark II and you wouldnt say that judau is the protagonist anymore at that point, would you?? sunrise would rather memoryhole shin as always having been a side character rather than admit how they fucked up destiny during production and completely failed to deliver on its premise to they rehashed the finale of SEED instead.
>>23873077The music wasn't long enough.
>>23873077People cheered when he was nothing but Kira's lobotomized dog in the movie. Why would they treat him like an independent character, let alone protagonist, when that's not what people want?
>>23873077To think Shinn got booted because of Fukuda's wife
Meanwhile nobody cares that Jona also got the boot.
>>23873108To be fair, nobody give a fuck about Narrative characters. They only care about mobile suits
>>23873088The fact that we won't be getting any projects pass Freedom's event, might as well take Shinn's shinning moment against the Black Knights as an apology for Destiny
>>23873120but that was worse than anything in Destiny
>>23873077I mean, Jonah, Age 2 and 3 and the Build guys also got excluded. But i guess they treat Kira as the only protag, because of his mid show gundamjack At least Shin scored Luna, thus making him the smartest man in CE
>>23873150Build is it's own franchise by now, like SD Gundam, and only main works where show in thar protagonists scene, no side stories or spin-offs like 0080, 0083, etc.
>>23873104False rumor. Where the fuck is the source
>>23873077I look forward to getting around to Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny, if solely because they sound like entertaining trainwrecks. Am I wrong in thinking this? I hated Gundam Wing.
>>23873302i dont think theyre bad in a funny way just in a frustrating way.
>>23873332Sounds like Wing again for me, shit. Guess I'll just have to see in time.
Other than UC they lumped all universes into one appearance and Kira was the lead of SEED Freedom and half of Destiny so he won out.
>>23873088Doesn't change the fact that his VA has top billing in the show and was the poster child for the promotional shit until halfway through the showAlso a better example would've been if Amuro had returned to Space with Char and Kamille instead of remaining on Earth and then suddenly was just dominating
>>23873216The source is Cagalli's seiyuu refusing to fucking voice ANYTHING for the character for decades Totally normal behavior btw for "Nothing happened between her and Morosawa"
>>23873150SEED Destiny is its own series in the same way Zeta or ZZ are. It's not remotely comparable to those examples.>>23873374>they lumped all universes into one appearanceSee above.SEED is the only AU which has its own fucking separate full series show. It's not comparable to say "Oh well they only had 1 protag for AGE" no shit AGE was one show.
>>23873077Shinn is just like a puppy. I want to kick him
>>23873150Hell, they showed both 0079 and CCA Amuro separately.
>>23873471I thought she voiced her in some video games, which Fukuda wasn't involved in, it wasn't until Freedom she stopped voicing her. They even had her new actress redo lines for SEED Battle Destiny's localization.>>23873500So, you're saying
>2026 And chuds still think kira “hijacked” the show when it was always a 3 protagonist piece
>>23873532but it's clearly not a 3 protag showThat or it's the worst attempt at that I've ever seen.
Only Kira (and Lacus) matters when it comes to SEED.
>>23873571You joke, but for the author it might as well be. Fanfic aint as blatant as seed in this aspect.
>>23873532Kira is the hero but he's not the protagonistShinn is the only character who has an actual arc considering that Athrun's development is just him re-doing his SEED characterization except without any actual personal connection this time
Someone just link that doujin with the crazy guy who self-inserts as Shinn.
>>23873500Whatever you say, Athrun.
>>23873645Athrun is proud of Shinn.
>>23873650And yet Shinn hates Athrun now.
>>23873652Didn't Shinn always hated Athrun's guts?
>>23873650He has no right to be proud of anything.
>>23873650https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpnjoldBjzMAthrun tried his best.
>>23873077Because Shinn is worst boy.
>>23873077They also excluded 2/3rds of AGE. One protag per series.
>>23873088>and judau joins haman and gets completely brainwashed by herI'd rather she be washing another part of him but the brain works fine too.
>>23873653It's just funny because in Freedom, he's buddy-buddy with everyone now except Athrun. Even Kira whom he used to hate he idolizes now. Granted, he knew nothing about Kira before meeting him in the end, but while Athrun was constantly indecisive and contradictory in Destiny.
>>23873088It's simple. Fukuda just needs to rehash ZZ, and have Shinn be the protagonist
>>23873732But what would the hot space dictator babe look like?
>>23873742A short haired clone of Lacus.
>>23873742Agnes?
>>23873650God i fucking hate the designs in seed im glad ill never watch this shitthey look so gay and retarded
>>23873742Rehash Commander Jill but mix in with Captain Zola from Cross Ange. Then Shinn gets the his equivalent of the ZZ with the Zeus silhouette.
>>23873473Sunrise doesn't care. It's not UC so it might as well be one series as far as they're concerned.
>>23873471>>23873525Cagalli did some games through the 2010s, she didn't officially quit until she had to work with Fukuda directly again, at which point they put out a statement that she dropped out for personal reasons and for everyone to drop it and not inquire as to what for her comfort. Which all but states something happened that had bad blood between her and Fukuda and probably Morosawa. However that had nothing to do with Shinn. Suzumura had no problem coming back
>>23873745She's already the slutty prisoner, so that makes her Chara Soon.>>23873743MechaMeer.>>23873773I see Captain Zola but who's Commander Jill?
>>23873790They likely mean Jill from Cross Ange too.
>>23873779I still remember back when Takahiro Sakurai scandal was happening, Fukuda made a comment that was taken out of context and people thought Suzumura was going to be replaced due to hearsay about whether or not he knew about Sakurai's affair.
The biggest Shinn wank in SEED Freedom was him being also confirmed as a SEED newtypeThe implication at this point is that at least on a combat level he's as close to a facsimile of Kira as Durandal could find
>>23873975Didn't Shinn train his ass off to become a good pilot too, to get revenge against Kira pre-Destiny?
>>23874047Shinn had no idea who Kira was before Destiny beyond the nameless pilot of Freedom which was famous from it's exploits during SEED's finale. Shinn had never seen Freedom in person until Kira's first intervention against Minerva despite it's presence during his family's death he never actually could see it from his position.
>>23873095>people*Japanese oldfags.
>>23874197lol I can assure you that wasn't a Japanese thing
>>23874047No, in spite of episode 1, even during later episodes of the original Destiny run, Shinn never acknowledges any grudge against Freedom due to the Orb battle.
>>23873120>shinning
>>23874197literally everyone here and on any other site was fellating the movie and how Shinn "finally got treated well"
>>23875610You have selective memory. There were plenty of posters here who called it a pile of big fucking nothing.