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https://twitter.com/Matsuda_satoshi/status/2055296985788559520How did you first discover Kamen Rider Ryuki?
Why didn't Baku just 'NO U" the otaku fighting?
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2056540344213553597Baku and Reiji's coloring attemtpt.
>>23873730I like how much Ren's actor seems to really appreciate Ryuki as his launch point into the industry even all these years later.
>>23873733Because Takahashi is a hack writer
>>23873725Ride Kamens...
>>23873781>writes my favorite series>instantly pumps out meh after meh afterwardsSucks, man.
>>23873843It's his first show so he's had years to plan it out and refine it. Everything else is him just coming up with a neat concept and flying off the seat of his pants. And clearly Toei is starting to see diminishing returns since each subsequent idea is worse than the last
>>23873733The second 3 pulls the trigger next episode it will be revealed to be a huge elaborate NO U since the beginning of the confrontation.
https://twitter.com/T_HEROnight_GW/status/2057032510375374879
>>23873897How it feels to chew 5 Gum
https://twitter.com/reelshortjp/status/2055120988246036858Syuichiro Naito listed.
>>23873896Nope, Nox is saving Baku's ass.
>>23873896Oh boy, another episode that invalidates the very last episode they did. Jesus fucking Christ, this is the worst written shit ever
The second appearance of the Lord 3 suit.
>>23873911Noz has been useless for so long that he might as well be a new character. When was the last time he did anything useful in suit? When he died?
>>23873915>When he died?Nah, the Disaster Nightmare did most of the work for him and he finished Five and Six off without transforming at all, he transformed just to get fucking killed by Catastrom and force The Lady to raid the CODE HQ on her own.
https://twitter.com/yakannomugicha/status/2054743500000809203Aruto Shachou.
>>23873920Man, what a waste of a secondary. And they got an experienced actor for him too.
>>23873730The yellow HK subs. >don't molest the lawyer
>NOOO PLS DON'T KILL ME>I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK>I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT!!!
>>23873741Zeztz Tatoba and Cure Gavan?
>>23873941>>don't molest the lawyer
>>23873846>It's his first show so he's had years to plan it out and refine itWhat in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? Ex-Aid turned out amazing because Omori understood Takahashi's strenghts and played on itIf Omori hadn't made so many changes to Zero-One out of pressure the show would have probably been as good as Ex-AidWriters and producers never have more than half a year to plan things and the core themes of the show weren't thought up by Takahashi, Omori came up with the vidya motif and TV Asahi came up with the whole medicine angle, what Takahashi made from the ground up were the characters
>>23873941Some shows had absolutely garbage HK hardsubs from that era (i.e. Dignity of the Retarded), but for some reason Hurricanger was almost perfect. The whole series used to be on DailyMotion, and honestly its higher quality than the "official" English DVD release one
https://twitter.com/Reiyo_official/status/2056677582897283462Reiyo Matsumoto.
>>23873991>Omori was the only one who knew how to play to Takahashi's strengths>He already left ToeiNo wonder he's been really shit recently.
>>23874005what's Omori doing these days anyway?
>>23874012https://twitter.com/Takahito_Omori/status/2020400909512241186His most recent twitter post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdv53_PYevUYuki's card collection.
Who was a worse secondary, Keiwa or Nox?
>>23874028Keiwa might've turned into an edgy faggot but I still liked the dork. Nox is also fun in his vagueness, and his fighting style is cool.
>>23874028Keiwa was at least decent in Q1 before he fell off a cliff and became a fucking retard. Nox has been nothing but a vagueposting criminal who tried to end humanity at worst, and non-existent at best
>>23874028Nox. He barely feels like a secondary. The producer clearly really wanted to do a solo Rider series.
>>23874033>>23874030Humorous how 1st half Nox still tried to do his vagueposting shtick in pic related.
>>23874028I hated Keiwa's awful edgy arc and when he was treated like a joke, but he was an actual secondary Rider. Nox is barely even a secondary Rider, he's the antagonist for Part 1 and while he's more of an ally in Part 2, he still does jack shit. The thing is I actually think Nox is pretty cool too, but objectively he's a pretty awful secondary Rider. Even Kusaka and Tachibana actively helped more than him.
>>23874028Keiwa went from good to terrible, Nox went from terrible to just being there. Nox is the worse Secondary overall.
>>23874034It's so weird because the show also has non Rider rivals too which makes absolutely no sense when the two additional Riders were antagonists. It's also kinda sad how Five and Six were actually more like Kamen Riders than Nox and Dawn were since they were genuinely trying to do good despite CODE's shenanigans.
>>23874039>I actually think Nox is pretty cool tooFucking how? You even admit that he does jackshit.
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2056419583750500558"Describe this photo. Wrong answers only."
>>23874046errm awkward??
>>23874028>Brave is overwhelmingly overshadowed by Lazer, Genm, and Para-Dx and gets a horrible "villain" arc>Vulcan never gets a proper resolution to liking Aruto's jokes and his backstory is turned into a joke for absolutely no reason. Gets overshadowed by Horobi, Jin, and unfortunately Thouser. >Tycoon's Gatack style POV protagonist stance gets diminished and mistreated by everyone in the cast for laughs despite being able to keep up with Geats. Heavily overshadowed by Buffa in terms of relationship focus with the main Rider and Ziin becomes a more reliable and popular ally. Gets a terrible villain arc that turns him into a psychopath. >Nox is straight up used as the main villain for the first half and acts stupidly vague that japs call him a poet. Then when he does get a second chance he just sits with The Lady. It's really sad how Takahashi treats secondary Riders, they get really cool suits and great final forms just to get treated like after thoughts.
>>23874044I meant like Kamen Rider Nox, I genuinely do like his suit a lot.
>>23874036>Several episodes later...>Unlocks Orderm via the power of famili>Built his own final form alone with just sheer willpower.Sounds more like NOX is foreshadowing his own eventual Nightmarisation once he uses the Midnight Shadow capsem.
>>23874057Sex with Takahashi catgirls, Nyeon and Minyami.
>>23874057Hard to say no to Tachibana-san
>>23874043>It's so weird because the show also has non Rider rivals too which makes absolutely no sense when the two additional Riders were antagonistsThey're doing the Gotchard approach where Rivals are a lesser, weaker type of transforming character compared to actual Riders. But they muddle it by having Nox Knight and Lord Three beat Zeztz in their respective debuts, making Lord Five fare better than Plasma against KR Nox, and giving Three an upgrade that will make him more powerful than Nox's Rider form.Though I guess there's also the fact that Nox and Dawn will get redeemed to team up with Zeztz, while the Lords won't.
>>23874043I never understood the point of transforming non-Riders. There was no reason for Night Rogue and Blood Stalk to not be Riders. If the countries one-off Revice Riders all counted, then those two, the Lords, and the Raiders should count too
>>23874057Taiga's the best one by far.
>>23874072>There was no reason for Night Rogue and Blood Stalk to not be RidersThey got way stronger when they became Riders. They also have a different aesthetic compared to the Riders in Build.
>>23874064Don't forget Nyaiba, anon-kun.
>>23874077where's Ex-Aid cat girls
>>23874072When producers want to make the title Kamen Rider special, similar to how dark giants look like Ultraman but are never referred as such.
https://twitter.com/TomoyaWarabino/status/2056232257866879375The actor of Heart-sama.
>>23874082Still cracks me up that his character, Gento, turned out to be more savage than Blazar deep down.
>>23874062He was talking about Baku, Baku was clearly being influenced by his own Nightmare during that fight and he later warned Baku about using Catastrom again since he could end up like Sieg. There's no reason for him to foreshadow something that wasn't going to happen to him since he was about to die a few seconds later.We also know that Baku's Nightmare will be one of the endgame villains, possibly even the final boss.
>>23874081They never explain what it means to be a Rider, though. Why don't Night Rogue and Blood Stalk count when Mad Rogue and Evol do? Why doesn't Yaiba get to keep using Fighting Jackal after she returns to being a Rider? What's the difference between Zeztz and the Lords since they're all made by CODE anyway? And just because they have some weird arbitrary reason why they're not considered Riders in universe, it doesn't mean they suddenly don't count in the real world. Just look at Shadow Moon
>>23874072It's only weird when being a Rider is a dime a dozen or if they're like Nox where they have one episode of using the non-Rider form. There are many narrative reasons to not make them all Riders>they just have a kaijin form>they're a mass produced unit or something outside the context of the power system>their Rider form is meant to be associated with character developmentBuild is a really poor example since in that series the Rider System has a specific lore implication in how it interacts with Nebula Gas that the Transteam System doesn't share.It's only ridiculous in some series like Zeztz where there is no meaningful distinction between using the Invokers and the Rider's Drivers.
>>23874092That still doesn't explain Mad Rogue and Evol being called Kamen Riders despite both of them using the Evol Driver. I get why using the Build Driver or Splash Drivers count, since they're both based on the Rider System developed by Sento. But not these two since the Rider System was built off the Evol Driver in the first place
>>23874090>Why don't Night Rogue and Blood Stalk count when Mad Rogue and Evol do?They don't have big bug eyes and a transformation belt.>Why doesn't Yaiba get to keep using Fighting Jackal after she returns to being a Rider?She would be demeaning herself, Gai gave her that Progrisekey because jackals are canines and he's obsessed with dogs, she was his bitch in more ways than one during her time as the Jackal Raider.>What's the difference between Zeztz and the Lords since they're all made by CODE anyway?Zeztz has unique special powers, they state it in the show.
>>23874119It has nothing to do with Sento, the Build Rivals have capped Hazard Levels whereas the Riders can increase theirs as much as their bodies can handle.
>>23874119Well Sento's whole thing is about Kamen Riders are not weapons of war which is what most people in the three governments see and use the Riders for and it makes sense for Evol to use that against him. Even one of the bottles he uses being Rider System is basically just kind of a spit in the face to Sento.As for Mad Rogue, he's kind of just a weird anomaly but also probably used my Evol to add fuel to the fire by using the Kamen Rider title to do evil. But in a weird way, Utsumi having the Kamen Rider title isn't actually going against the themes of the show and how they use the title because it's later revealed that he was mainly just acting to inevitably betray Evol which did end up helping Rogue and the gang in the end even if it was to avenge Nanba. In the V-Cinemas he's a proper ally too.
>>23874129>>23874136All of this just sounds like arbitrary reasons to complicate things when they could've just lumped everyone together as a Kamen Rider and no one would mind
>>23874090>Just look at Shadow MoonIt's funny because Another Agito was in the same boat for the longest time too until they retroactively gave him the Kamen Rider title years later. The Lords pretty much are like Shadow Moon because despite the name difference, there's little to no difference between them and promotionally they're basically treated the same. Hell, Lord Three is basically treated like the fourth Rider in focus in most of the arc posters and he even gets an upgrade.
>>23874028Nox is a special kind of bad. I almost guarantee some kids forgot he's even in the damn show since he hasn't done anything in what feels like forever. You can say a lot of things about some of the poorly handled secondaries in Kamen Rider (Brave, Daiji, Keiwa) but at least I always remembered those guys were around.
>>23874143Waiting for Alternative to finally be clarified as a proper Rider
>>23874142Rogue and Stalk becoming Riders was a big deal in the story.
>>23874147Oh yeah I forgot Alternative too my bad. I wish they let the Lords just say henshin like the Alternatives did, because it's getting kinda annoying that the rivals have to have some unique call out. For the Lords it's even more pointless because they don't become a Kamen Rider and they're not very different from Riders anyway.
>>23874149And I'm sure Metal Build was a very significant part of the story too
>>23874147Never gonna happen because they've always been categorized as non-Riders in all official material, their whole deal is that they're not actual Riders. Another Agito was inconsistently referred to as a Rider until he was finally consistently depicted as one in recent years.
>>23874153He was the main villain of the V-Cin he appeared in.
>>23874090Zeztz’s Riders have a greater symbosis with their personal Nightmares and they earn unique suits too, while the Knight and Lords only utilize Nightmares on a surface level and their suits are just palette swap of each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJEgzfQ_gUE
There's also the opposite of the topic. Riders who definitely shouldn't have been called Riders. Like most of the final bosses>Ark-Zero>Solomon>Storious>Glare/Gazer/Regad>The Geats Supporters>Eld
>>23874182>Riders who definitely shouldn't have been called RidersWhy not? Most of them look like Riders and use transformation belts. Ark-Zero's literally just a dark version of Zero-One while Eld is mostly a kitbash of Gotchard XRex.
>>23874186I just like it better when the bosses are monsters>Ark-Zero is basically a satellite version of Gold Drive, who isn't considered a Rider>Solomon and Storious don't even use belts or swords>Geats should have kept the Kamen Rider title for players. Admins and Supporters needed their own title>Eld should've been Glion's Dark King form after he absorbed the original ones
>>23874191>>Solomon and Storious don't even use beltsBut they do.
>>23874193Fine, I'll give you Solomon, but Storious absolutely did not have to be a Rider. He had a perfectly good Kaijin form
>>23873730Getting re-introduced to Kamen Rider through Kamen Rider Decade, and then working backwards through the Heisei catalogue once I was invested.I can't remember the exact order but it was something like:Kabuto -> Den-O -> Kiva -> Kuuga -> Agito -> Ryuki -> Faiz -> Blade -> Hibiki
>>23874182Everyone who doesn't have a bike shouldn't be called riders. Even if it means the entire show just having one rider.
>>23874245
>>23874245Drive...
>>23874245Revice...
>>23874246Drive had a bike until the Roidmudes stole it. At least Belt-san bothered to replace it with an actual vehicle.
>>23874251He had this silly thing
>>23874254Can't break any road laws if you're not on the road
>>23874256akchually road laws affect even flying vechicles above the road
>>23874245Do buggies count?
>>23874259yes
>>23874254500,000 yen for a custom hover craftused exclusively for CGI and on ground shots.Thank you Toei, very cool.
>>23874254You forgot skateboard Vice and Ikki's bicycle
>>23873897They actually splattered her like she was in an Inoue movie.
>>23873897imagine drinking kureha juice
>>23873897Women. Am I right fellas?
>>23874245A better way to word this is lacking any vehicle, because you're technically a riser as long as something is being ridden. Heck, if a kamen rider had a horse, they could be a rider still. While I don't actually agree with your train off thought, for funsies I will humor it, if they dont have some form of vehicle then they're just a masked person sure. Might aswell call them Kamen Ningen.
>>23874375I propose calling them Kamen Warriors like what the chinese are doing.
>>23874375it's criminal that the only time Kamen Rode a horse it was a couple of times at most during Gaim.
how come stuff post-Kiva never seem to recognize Saga/Taiga
>>23874380nah man they call them 假面骑士 and Rider = 骑士, it's just a coincide that 骑士 also means "Knight" which is why your MTL fucks it up sometimes.
>>23874405Because Dark Kiva is cooler, and at that point you might as well get Otoya back
>>23874375>A better way to word this is lacking any vehicle, because you're technically a rider as long as something is being ridden.similar mindset to mine. if bikes aren't available most of the time, they could make some kind of cgi vehicles or something tied to their gimmicks that can be ridden on. like espada riding the magic carpet that one time. or was that more than once, i can't remember.
Nox’s Capsems have his face on the hinge
>>23874381And even then Gaim wouldn't the first to do it.https://youtu.be/FCO9f0lMniQ?t=1578
How does it feel knowing Souma and 3 are basically the same character with a different name and face?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0GKjib32pMKabuto 14.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2JFRElQolcKabuto 15.
>this guy rewatching kameme rider blade>clips scenes>finally got to my favorite parthttps://x.com/luncer_s/status/2057440443483427048MAMEKIYOOO
>>23874028Nox. The reason why people hate Keiwa is because he started off interesting then turned to shit later on. Nox was being mocked all the way back in Q1
https://twitter.com/otokam1117/status/2057466052267925665"Regarding the Fantia matter, since I don't have time, I've decided to make the potentially relevant works private. I want to revive the works that seem fixable later."
https://twitter.com/otokam1117/status/2057448838252900838
>>23873725Husband and EXwife Hai aruto ja naito
>>23874275I swear it was sponsored by the company that makes those things, and that was the reason he had that in the first place
>>23874448HuhNeat
>>23874412could've sworn they were called 假面超人
https://x.com/IzDisNameTaken/status/2057511515603812723G7 can perform rider kicks now
>>23874665HK calls them 幪面超人
>>23874678I just realized G7 uses a female voiced belt, which almost never happens in the series.
>>23874616You never know, they did spend a lot on those retarded sticks on Kingohger's cockpits.
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2057536946898157990"Kamen Rider ZEZTZ: Into the Dream Archive with English subtitles arrives tomorrow globally!*Don’t miss your chance to witness the debut of an event exclusive form: Kamen Rider ZEZTZ VISIONS.Available during: May 22, 6:00 PM PDT – June 7, 7:59 AM PDT"
Does Takahashi have a hate boner for secondary rider or something?>A nonexistent chemistry>A falsified nothing burger>A true hypocrite>A fucking irredeemable criminalLike, while I think he is good at writing an engaging plot and quite plexible at adapting to changes, but holy fuck he is horrendous at writing characters and it shows every fucking time.
The Fourze movie (space time is here) in the downloads at the top is actually just megamax again. Now I gotta find another source.
>>23874752He seems to treat Dan/Michinaga as the real secondaries in their respective shows though.
>>23874752I loved Fuwa but they did kind of fuck him up in the last half, motivation wise, I don't think he ever stopped being cool but yeah the whole revelation sucked and so did his death in the Vcinemas.As for Hiiro, I liked him, but he was pretty emotionally blunted. There WAS chemistry between him and Emu, but it essentially capped out as "trusting Emu and considering him to be a good doctor" and never moved past that.Keiwa did get shafted, he had a kinda cool suit but I preferred Michinaga in every way. I feel like this one isn't really Takahashi's fault, though, the original plan was for him to become disillusioned with Ace and deal with that earlier, when it made far more sense, but production stuff forced it.As for Nox I have nothing to say.It is certainly odd his secondaries are always the least important of the main rider cast, but it seems to not always be entirely his fault, and at least 2 out of those 4 I like.
>>23874417Eh I genuinely preferred Saga as a suit and his whip finisher is sick.
>>23874773>>23874752How does Takahashi treat his Rider 3s in comparison? I know Yaiba in particular got the shortest end of the stick.
>>23874775Saga also had a rad song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF145CKXDYc
>>23874777In Ex-Aid, Taiga still had to share a lot of space with others, and lost out at times, especially early on when they were pushing Kiriya, and later when Dan came back and joined the team, but he got far more character growth and things to do than Hiiro. Probably the best out of Takahashi's tertiary riders.Yaiba feels like an afterthought most of the time, and is kind of just there as a prop for Thouser and Fuwa to use.Michinaga, as the other guy said, felt more like the secondary character in Geats. Had a lot more focus and growth, reminds me, to a degree, of Gaim's Baron where he's not really the "secondary" but is much more of an important character than the real secondary. And for all things considered, is probably my personal favorite character but a lot of that is him just being a stubborn retard with my favorite rider color, gimmick (zombie) and a cool chainsword. With Dawn, it's hard to say. He's pretty much just a pure antagonist. I like him, but mostly because he's my favorite suit and I like his returning actor - the show isn't finished so it's hard to say how he's going to pan out, but he's much less of a traditional tertiary rider than the other two.
>>23874448That's neat, I do think the Nox Capsems have a better design than the others.
>>23874752Fuwa was great until the final stretch where they ran out of things for him to do and did that dumb ass fake memories shit. Hiiro is just kind of boring and you know they shoved him aside when Kuroto became as popular as he did. Keiwa gets more and more insufferable as the series goes on. Nox is the most nothing secondary in Rider history.
>>23874781>He's pretty much just a pure antagonistHe's getting redeemed this week.
>>23874787We'll see. I'm expecting a Kuroto Dan (in the show itself, not Outsiders) level of 'redemption' where the protagonists will work with him begrudgingly and plan to have him pay for his crimes later, at most.They really haven't established any personal connections or deep 'doing this for the greater good' things to try and hinge on. Say what you will about Nox, they at least pushed and tried with the whole "he's just doing this to stop the true evil" for a long, long time.
>>23874781Michinaga isn't the Tertiary of Geats.
>>23874791not an argument I feel like having, so fine. Do you want me to analyze some other rider instead? The cat girl?
>>23874786>Nox is the most nothing secondary in Rider history.Even less noteworthy than Ibuki? That's quite the feat.
>>23874773Fuwa was hard carried by both Okada's acting and Asai's suit acting, the character writing was trash, but they were charismatic and stole the scene. Could apply to Zero One in general, trash writing carried by pretty good acting across the board + direction and choreography. All hype and aura that got exposed badly in the V-Cinema when Sugihara isn't there anymore.
>>23874795NTA, but he really doesn't feel like he's even agreed to work with Baku at this point in the story. He was essentially just a vagueposting obstacle and then straight up antagonist for half of the show, and most help he's given Baku has been incidental at best. He's spent more time untransformed watching quietly than actively doing secondary stuff. I personally haven't seen Hibiki to compare, but he really feels underused.
>>23874789>They really haven't established any personal connections or deep 'doing this for the greater good' things to try and hinge on.He stuck to only massacring criminals, said he targets everyone because no one is free from sin, and Baku said he only thinks like that because his Nightmare is influencing his mind.
>>23874797Yeah, that's all fair. I feel like the character writing was serviceable, at least, before a certain point, but 100% carried by Okada, and my own personal love of stubborn retard characters.You're right about the V-Cinemas, though. The first one was entirely carried by Kamen Rider Zaia's actor's charisma, engrish and fighting style being fun, and the second one didn't even have that. Every other design sucked, the plots were a net negative in every way and actively drained most of the goodwill I had leftover for parts of the show. Probably the worst V-Cinemas yet in my opinion, and it's already not like Takahashi's shows had a reputation for good v-cins.Unironically made
>>23874793Yes, Neon is the actual official Tertiary of the show.
>>23874814Well, as a tertiary, Neon was severely underutilized during the first half of the show, suffered from having to split focus between so many other riders - being overshadowed in screentime and focus by Keiwa and Michinaga, Win, and even some much shorter-lived characters that stole episode counts that could've been spent developing her more early on, and lost out on a lot of focus she could've gotten by being the 'girl character' by Tsumuri existing and being as important as she was.By the time she actually got narrative focus for a bit, it felt far to late to change her status quo, in a narrative or combat-importance sense. Barely less of an afterthought than Yaiba.
>>23874795Ibuki had the whole mentorship storyline with Akira and his romance with one of the Tachibana sisters, he unironically had more going on than Nox. Nox barely has a relationship with Baku despite being his former teacher and the staff insisting that that relationship was totally a big driving factor for many of his actions.
>>23874819I don't think Neon lacked focus episodes. Especially comparing her to Yaiba she obviously had way more stuff going on. They're comparable in q1, but q2 already goes into how Neon is connected to the DGP and there's a Rider created just to be supporting character for Neon. Tycoon's sister is also immediately latched to her when she becomes more involved in the story directly.The main issue is that her entire plotline was only about her own personal problems. She was completely irrelevant against the big enemies and her plot, with her family issues, felt more like the kind of focus a supporting character who can't fight would get than a Rider.
I don't know why they still insist on having Nox keep the "mysterious character" schtick when there's no big mystery about/behind him at this point.
>>23874811Yeah. I get that it's a plot element he wanted to do before job arc tumor and COVID derailed the show, and RealxTime ended the series on a very good note, there were no need to backtrack for the whole "MBJN feels like they don't deserve redemption + Fuwa doesn't have any reason to live" plot when all the characters has grown beyond that point. He could've just finished the series with a MBJN/AIMS teamup movies to reinforce the theme of AI cooperation and be done with it, but instead he shat out what we had. And its not like those themes wouldn't work with a feel good epilogue either, all it had to do was not shit on its own character developments
>>23874797>Fuwa was hard carried by both Okada's acting and Asai's suit acting, the character writing was trash, but they were charismatic and stole the sceneA robo hater learning to grow past his hatred of robots after they save his life and he finally starts seeing how much they help people is a compelling story arc. Problem is that they later revealed he had no reason to hate robots in the first place, and then they ignore his development for a bit during the final arc just so that Horobi can feel justified about his hatred towards humans, before Fuwa goes back to being open about working with Humagears and tries to stop Aruto from causing a Humagear genocide.
>>23874830>Tycoon's sister is also immediately latched to her when she becomes more involved in the story directly.Yeah, she had a ton of orbiters: her mom, her dad, her bodyguards, her Supporter, Keiwa's sister, Lopo, even Beroba got obsessed with tormenting her in the second half.
>>23873694
>>23874752iirc>He didn't come up with Naki so when covid happened he shafted her which in turn meant shafting Fuwa in the last stretch>The producer Takebe complained that Keiwa was too compelling so viewers would take his side rather Ace's, Bujin Sword was meant to release earlier but dot delayed causing Q3 to essentially be a stall for Keiwa's and Neon's arcs while the final arc had to both start and conclude their arcs, his sister was also meant to die earlier which is why her becoming a rider amounts to nothing and while the ending went unchanged the original plan was for Keiwa to be the final boss but due to Takebe's complaints he made Suel who was just mean to be a glorified worldview backdrop meant to die quick the antagonist instead which is why Suel is so bland. Combining all of those things you have Keiwa get anti-character development where he becomes a hypocrite and falls for the manipulation of the villains' instead of taking over like originally plannedOtherwise Hiiro and Nox are his fault, with Zeztz producer Yanaka wanted the first half to only consist of motw storylines while the second half had the true story but then to not have the first half feel aimless he requested Takahashi to come up with a villain that could also serve as the secondary so essentially Nox is by default kinda detached from the story the producer thought of but at the same time that doesn't suddenly excuse how shitty Nox has been. For Hiiro I've seen some anons say that he was producer Omori's idea and that Takahashi ran out of ideas in the last stretch for him because he didn't care for him but I haven't seen any proofs for this.
>>23874819>being overshadowed in screentime and focus by Keiwa and Michinaga, Win>WinDon't even try to pretend that Win had a decent amount of focus outside of his dedicated special, he only had 1 actual focus episode in the entire show, went missing for half of it, transformed for a few seconds upon return and then never again.
>>23874856But Keiwa becomes a hyprocrite the moment he learned about the Goddess of Creation, not when his sister died though.
>>23874892NTA but I think what happened here was that Keiwa was supposed to start getting more pessimistic and hate Ace after his sister died, but since Takahashi couldn't kill her off he had to come up with another excuse for him to turn into an asshole in order to start building him up as the final boss. Though, it didn't really amount to much since he dropped Keiwa as the final boss in the end
>>23874856Doesn't change the fact that he's still a shit writer. He's horrible at being flexible so whenever things don't go his way he can't shift focus and change plans easily. And he's horrible at splitting the focus so there's always long stretches of time where certain characters just don't exist in the story since he's too busy on something else
>>23874684Wasn't aware his appearance changed with his boost in the movie
>>23874781>Yaiba feels like an afterthought most of the time, and is kind of just there as a prop for Thouser and Fuwa to use.dogu ja nai
>>23874953OkayBut why is Nox Capsem set fucking $40 everywhere I look when it's just two little Capsems the same way Zeztz is?And why does fucking nobody seem to have ExDream in stock?
>>23874960The Exdream roleplay toys aren't worth it, only the action figure.
More images.
https://twitter.com/bandai_ridertoy/status/2057627619093598659https://toy.bandai.co.jp/ja/series/rider/item/01_20632/The links.
>>23874985Can't wait for him to only appear for two episodes before it becomes the Baku Show again
>>23874953>>23874979>>23874985Next week/june debut?
The other images.
>>23874994Probably a tease at the end of the next episode
>>23874989God it's like they're trying to make the show all about Baku. You'd think it'd be called Kamen Rider Zeztz or something with how much they focus on him.
>>23874997Don't be a fucking retard. Other shows did a great job at focusing on other characters besides the main Rider. Zeztz focuses on Baku so much at the expense of every other supporting character
>takahashi having character focus problemit's rare this isn't komura's show desu...
>>23875023Takahashi has always had character focus problems. It's just that previous shows had multiple characters so he jumped around between them more. Brave and Valkyrie barely existed half the time. The issue is just compounded even more in Zeztz because he's not writing an ensemble show for once
>>23874997>>23875002Yanaka tried to make a modern Kuuga but he completely missed the point of the original.
>>23875031It's crazy how each new show just exposes more and more of Takahashi's flaws as a writer. I think he's the only writer whose shows get worse on a rewatch compared to other "bad" shows like Saber and Kiva
>>23874985lmao these figures make nox look like such a fat chungus
>>23874979>>23874995This seems like a worse version of Nox's regular Capsems. You have to manually split the thing apart because there's no hinge, the changing picture light gimmick is replaced by lame spinning gears, and it doesn't even have extra callouts beyond the transformation and the one finisher to compensate.
>>23875044is what a retarded coping saberturd would say
>>23875051Better than being a Sheats fag who's only interested in flashy fight scenes
>>23874994>>23874996Toy comes out in June 6th, so the form's debuting 2 weeks from now (if they don't delay it, that is).
>>23875050Yanaka did admit that the show's toyline was planned last minute. Makes sense it's shit
>>23875051Still better than being an assblasted Gavv/Zeztzfag.
Mutou isn't any better either, if Samurai Troopers is any indicator. Both him and Takahashi are only compatible with Omori, and he left Toei, so....
>>23874985>>23874995Welcome back, Beywheelz!
>>23874811>Every other design suckedNah
>>23874856 Fuwa's fake backstory was 100% planned. Anons here just don't like the twist, but it was basically confirmed early on in the show when we had the reveal of the "real" daybreak incident and you had the factory manager saying everyone evacuated and he could destroy the out of control robots. So, there was no evidence of a hidden massacre in Daybreak Town.
No matter how much you spam each thread with Saber good it is in fact, not good.
>>23875104Go back to your old catchphrase so my filter catches you.
>>23875102Fuwa having fake memories might have been planned, but him having Naki in his brain definitely wasn't
>>23875109NTA lil pup
>>23875104Yeah, we should talk about actual good shows instead. Like Zero-One and Geats
>>23875115I find Geats okay but my favorites are Gavv and Revice don't ask it's just a guilty pleasure
>>23875118No one cares about your opinion
>>23875123No one cares about anyone's opinion but their own here and so what? I will still say it just like the saber spam!
>>23874979So it's like a crank based alarm clock?
>>23875102The fake memories twist was planned but Naki wasn't. Metsuboujinrai was planned to only have two members but they decided to create two more when people kept asking about the other two because the Metsuboujinrai name was made up by 4 kanji.>but it was basically confirmed early on in the show when we had the reveal of the "real" daybreak incident and you had the factory manager saying everyone evacuated and he could destroy the out of control robots. So, there was no evidence of a hidden massacre in Daybreak Town.Also Izu foreshadowed it in the hospital arc when she looked up Fuwa's medical records and sarcastically questioned if there wasn't something wrong with his head since he hadn't gotten it checked in a while.
>>23875102Illiterate anon
>>23874960>the same way zeztz isIt has LEDs and sounds all in it.
>>23874092>It's only ridiculous in some series like Zeztz where there is no meaningful distinction between using the Invokers and the Rider's Drivers.Lore wise there is. Riders are fusing with the Nightmares which is why they are stronger. There is even a visual distinction.
>>23875255Nox?
Are you guys sure that the writers aren’t involved in the production process. It can’t be coincidence that all of Takahashi shows feature a villainous purple rider
>>23875002Quit spazzing out because the support characters' focus is more serialized instead of giving everyone dedicated two-parters. Literally the only one who hasn't gotten much focus at all is Fujimi.
>>23875260They are. We talked about it. The writers are always involved in the pre-production phase to build up the new setting
>>23875265Then why the fuck can every other writer balance out character focus without having to write out major characters for 10 episodes?
>>23875260What you can probably blame Takahashi is moving Buffa to the point that he went from just a rival to an outright antagonist for a while. If it was any other writers, he'd probably just stay on the rival position throughout rather than outright becoming a villain for a while.Otherwise, it just seems like purple Riders just became more common after Genm. Zi-O didn't have one because it didn't really have evil Riders outside of the summer movie, but you got Shinobi as a good Rider. And it was used as a form change for Woz, who is initially White Woz, an antagonist. Saber had an antagonistic purple Rider.Revice didn't have a purple Rider because purple was one of Revi's three colors. Then the same happened with Gavv where it was his main color.>>23875268I mean, Zeztz in that sense isn't even like Takahashi's previous shows. It's the result of the producer wanting to highlight Zeztz as an unique heroic figure.>>23875266I mean, they're obviously building the setting of the show, but the writers themselves aren't involved with the toyline, at least not early on. It's why in Build you get Banjo's initial form with a sword, only afterwards he gets a knuckle as a weapon, which fits the backstory he actually got from the writer.
>>23875226The Nox Capsems don't have lights nor sounds, they're all in the belt.
>>23875260They are.>>23875285>but the writers themselves aren't involved with the toyline, at least not early onKomura was already making suggestions back when Gavv's motif was still mermaids.
>>23875285>It's why in Build you get Banjo's initial form with a sword, only afterwards he gets a knuckle as a weapon, which fits the backstory he actually got from the writer.The reason why Cross-Z has a dragon motif in the first place is because of Ryuga's name, the character was conceived before the Rider itself, although they already had the idea of having the character transform into a Rider. Also, Banjo in the show wasn't a boxer, he was a fighter who specialized in the Systema martial art, but they gradually phased that fighting style out and modified it into a more punch-based one during the show because Akaso was too stiff to pull it off and it didn't look good.
https://x.com/Kenji_Staff/status/2057663354739810784Daguva's actor is voicing the new CSM Grongi belt.
>>23875260>>23875294It's a case by case basis, like for example when Komura was hired to do Zenkaiger Shirakura had already come up with the 5 rangers and settingUsually writers are brought onto the project very early on but producers end up planning most of the setting and toys but if the producer wishes to they can have the writer come up with certain things, Takebe for example tends to have writers come up with ideas before any toys have been decided while Takahashi-P & Mochizuki do the opposite usually, then Shirakura and Tsukada try different approaches depending on the project
>>23875303Wonder if they'll implement a cracked belt LED effect
>>23875256Nox knight = not fusingNox shadow = Lady's driver, no clue.His new form = to be determined, but he's probably merging with his nightmare.
>>23875291Midnight Shadow has its own sounds, the Driver only plays the upgrade jingle.
>>23875324He still became a Rider before he fused with a nightmare
>>23875324>>23875362>I've been fighting CODE for so long... I forgot about the darkness within myself...
>>23875363>"You babble about the darkness within CODE yet you are ignorant of your very own darkness, your sins..">"And yet, you have the gall to accuse ZEZTZy-boy of sleepwalking through life..."– Sieg (probably)
>>23875363>>23875373Zeztz's Secondary and Tertiary are both cringe as hell.
>>23874966Yea I wanna get the figure for him now that my Nin Nin stuff showed up and I ended up really liking them>>23875226They do notThey're just actually $40+ because uhhhhh well they just are
>>23875385I wonder if they're packaging the Midnight Shadow Capsem with the Nox Driver because they're not selling as well
>>23875389Nah, they do these kinds of sets all the time.
>>23875390Don't they usually do that just for the main driver?
>>23875389Swear there was a ShotRiser with Assault Wolf Key setWasn't there a TwoSide Driver with Holy Wing combo?There was a Desire Driver+Zombie set and Zombie/Buffa core without the holder later tooI didn't even look at Gotchard for that entire yearWe didn't get shit in Gavv honestly
>>23875392The Calibur Driver, the Saikou Driver and the Legendriver all had sets with their respective upgrades. The TwosiDriver had a set with the Revice Driver and the Laser Raise Riser had one with the Boost Mark II Buckle.
Nox might suck as a character, but honestly, his one main henshin jingle blows most of Zeztz's out of the water.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnhLBxedgYs
>>23875422KR Nox has the best standby by far, but I prefer Nox Knight's when it comes to the transformation jingle itself. Still, it's kinda funny that the KR Nox jingles start with the VA laughing his ass off when Nox is the most stoic character in the whole show, and the fact that his suit looks like a jester doesn't help.Also, the voice in Dawn's callouts barely sounds evil in spite of the kinds of lines it says and the fact that Dawn is the most outwardly evil transforming character in the show, stuff like Gravity and Catastrom sound way more evil than it.https://youtu.be/eEVy_wH9ANg?si=5D5AO9ihHh00TkAb
nox is the most nothing-burger rider i've come across in a long time since I started watching the franchise nearly 20 years ago. how did takahashi fumbled so badly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKjcr1fcN7w
>>23875441Why did they choose such kiddie colors? Literally looks like a playskool toy
>>23875445KR toys can look like they're for children only sometimes as a little treat
>>23875445So it's well designed for the target audience?
>>23875441>the spinning gears are so loud you can barely hear most of the jingleExactly what I was fearing, this toy sucks.
>>23875445Blue and Orange are Nox's main colors alongside White. Why doesn't the Midnight Shadow suit have any Orange? Because fuck you, what's why.
https://twitter.com/tokushoutsu/status/2057571661248147640"LONG LIVE KUREHA!"
^U^
How come they stopped doing p bandai riders?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10735841273Preview images of Case 36.
>>23875462The trend started with Zero-One as a means to do improtu changes by introducing Riders that didn't have to abide with the toy schedule, now that Kamen Rider is being filmed way in advance they can't do these last minute Riders unless it's for the final arcSo essentially we're only getting PB Riders if they have a highly advanced belt that can't be mass-produced in the usual high quantity like Demons or Gazer, or if it's a PB Rider exclusive for the final arc
Nox is literally the potential man meme
>>23874953looks like 2 beyblades
>>23875291>>23875385I own thr belt, it goes silent for this upgraxe
This vtuber is currently talking about going Agito exhibition and showing photos, if anyone's interested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0lEv-F9E7k
Harem Kamen Rider, where the Harem Members transform into form change gimmicks. When transforming, the gimmicks play the harem members' character songs, and the transformation only lasts as long as the song is playing.
Man, Caking's debut episode is just peak Rider. Everything about it was great. Shouma's fear of death and his desperation to go home, Sachika and Hanto worrying about Shouma and asking him to come home safe, Shouma realising that the effort made to make the cake and share it with loved ones making it all the more sweeter, and the realisation that deep down, Shiita and Jeebh are just jealous of Shouma and how their dad clearly cared about him more than them despite being a bastard child. And Caking itself is one of the coolest looking suits. The only thing that could've improved the episode is if Caking had its own insert song.
>>23875578Gavv is just overall a really good season even if it got kinda messy in the middle. The character writing is great, even if the Stomachs get kinda retarded and petty later.
>>23875587Gavv is mid as fuck after the first quarter. It's a typical Komura show because she can't write for 50 episodes.>great first quarter >mid Q2 and Q3 where it feels like the plot spins its wheels and "stuff happens">rushed, fumbling Q4 that doesn't stick the landing and leaves a lot of dangling plot pointsThe Stomachs are also probably the most nothing villain group in the history of Rider.
>>23875609Izu was a better waifu
>>23873699Looks like Kyoko from Madoka
heh i'd take takahashislop over komura any day
>>23875630i want kobayashi or arakawa back desu
Real recognize real
>>23875578Gavv peaks here, it never gets as good as this ever again.>>23875587The final 10 or so episodes are some of the worst in the show.
>>23875631Kobayashi is too busy making JoJo money, Arakawa though I have no answer for
>>23875652I'm looking forward to she how she'll structure Steel Ball Run's adaption
manifesting minato takano for my-th
>>23875492It looks like 2 cupcakes that give Nox a frosted cupcake form.
>>23875656I honestly would really like to see Takano try writing a KR season.
Was Zeronos ever shown either transforming directly into Vega Form or changing back to Altair from Vega? This isn't the meme, I honestly don't remember.
>>23875131it just spinsthere's no theme or reason
>>23875606>rushed, fumbling Q4 that doesn't stick the landing and leaves a lot of dangling plot pointsThe pacing of Gavv's Q4 is mostly... aside from anything related to Lizel.
>>23875697>The pacing of Gavv's Q4 is mostly...I meant "is mostly fine... aside from Lizel".Although, yeah, leaving Lango as the final boss was underwhelming, but that's not a pacing issue, more of a bad story choice.
>>23875684Maybe it represents how Nox's vagueposting really grinds my gears.
>>23875698I could have bought Lango as the final boss had they given me a reason to. If he was a more active force antagonizing Shoma rather than spending most of the show sitting around being surprised and/or confused about every plot development, he could have actually made for a good final challenge since it would have been a satisfying cap to Shoma's growth over the course of the show. As it was, Lango just felt like leftovers that needed mopping up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4LAR9dSHxQkenzaki is sugoi
>>23875606Gavv continues to give character development and continue the story in the middle unlike her Sentai where she got told to be episodic and not acknowledge the main mysteries in the case Zyohger, meanwhile Gavv does continue the story with a brisk pace but the Stomachs become retarded because the original plan was to do a Schocker/Gel-Shocker situation but instead she was forced to keep the Stomach aliveIt's why the 3 riders VS Bocca actually feel like an actual final fight since that's what it originally was then Lango feels like a piece of shit cobbled up together last minuteI don't get why Komura and Takahashi are so bad at adapting to changes, specially Komura since is a student from Toei's school
>>23875606The pacing for Gavv is fine outside of the last few Epsiodes. Gavv biggest issue is them focusing on the Stomachs when they clearly had nothing planned for them which made the middle really fucking boring
people use Kakusei but I think Rouzed is a much better name
>>23875463why does nox in previews always look like he's scared with his body language?
>>23875884He's terrified his chance to be in Kamen Rider might a complete wash.
>>23875884Eitoku usually plays armored characters the skin tight look of Zeztz's suits fucks with his posture
>>23875812Aren't both names correct depending on the release?
>>23875464I feel Zeztz at this point is just a vehicle to hypnotize people into loving older men
>>23875950technically it debuted with 覚醒 but later released use Rouzed
