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>>23878979

SRW Y Expansion out now
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You know it's been a long time since I watched TTGL and I know SRW games like to play up character traits, but goddamn if Kamina isn't a gigantic moron. He's gone from hotblooded and fearless to suicidal retard. It's cool he mad pals with Ryoma and they even say so in their attack voice lines but goddamn.
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>>23882175
>to suicidal retard
He was the whole time in the series, that was one of the points
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>>23882184
Well it conveys a lot differently when you try to rush one enemy mech versus a dozen.
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>>23882175
It's funny you bring that up, I remember how, when Z2 cam3 out, people were annoyed with both Kittan and Kallen's voice lines. Kallen uses her yelling voice constantly, her softer voice goes completely unused when it was actually used pretty often in the show. Meanwhile, Kittan pitch was higher, for some reason, so he comes across as manic in his lines.
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I enjoyed reading people's SRW Original Ideas last thread, can we keep doing that?
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Emma lived in Y. It's only fair for Stella to be alive for SEED Freedom next game.
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>>23882194
There is no reason for Stella to die besides to make Shinn mad at Kira.
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>>23882193
I can give you a series list, no story ideas or anything to go with it though
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>>23882175
Kamina tried to use a gun as a hammer and nearly blew his dick off. He really was that dumb in show.
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>>23882199
She had to die for Shinn to go all in the Destiny Plan despite his reservation. Even in SRW stories where she lives, her survival isn't revealed to Shinn until after he'd already been defeated by Kira and Athrun, unless the plot was avoided entirely. However Shinn going villain is the canon route SRW always takes because him redeeming himself afterwards is more interesting that just being the stand up hero from the start. And given how much of Shinn's character and plot in Freedom revolves around him having done so it's not likely to happen
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>>23882175
he challenges the first gunmen with 1 sword and 0 plan. fittingly simon is the one saving his ass almost every time.

Unrelated: one neat understated scene in the anime is the dreidel scene kamina doesn't want to run from daigunzan and Simon says he has a plan. Kamina then goes "ok fine you take over" and crosses his arms with a stern look.

He's not pouting or being sour. In that moment he doesn't even believe in himself who believes in Simon (which is why he's sternly crossing his arms, almost fighting to stop himself from intervening), he is 100% believing in Simon who believes in Simon (this is one of the first times Simon confidently says he knows what he's doing).

I guess the closest thing in the game is when he trusts Zero to give him commands with no clue what his plan is.
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>>23882191
It's just a consequence of most of their dialogue being battle dialogue where they are hyped up. Same reason Lelouch is always going full ham (he did that for speeches in the show but almost never in battle itself) and Chirico though still his mellow self isn't totally quiet during fights.
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uhhh guys..where is OG?
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>>23882221
ded
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>>23882175
>fearless
He's legit only standing there because simon is with him. Also you're forgetting he and simon are literally illiterate cavemen.
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>>23882223
Sad. Just when we got this sexy thing
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>>23882221
Doesn't sell as well (especially now they can release licensed games outside Japan) the team was dissolved and OG always was Terada's brainchild and he's no longer in a producer position, the younger staff have no real interest in it. They decided OG cameos as DLC is good enough for it. Even then there was only going to be one final game anyway.
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>>23882225
If they don't unga they won't see the day they can bunga, yeah.
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>>23881499
daitarn
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>>23882219
I get that's still weird. For Kittan, I don't even remember him talking like that in battle at all, and for Kallen, they didn't need to go all in on yelling for every single attack, it just seemed weird.

For those who haven't seen Code Geass, Kallen has 3 voices:

-soft spoken in Ashford
-her normal voice, still sounds girly but with some pep, she talks like this most of the time and in most fights
-her full on rage voice that she uses occasionally, and SRW used this for all her voiced lines, it's rare enough in the show that I was confused during a rewatch.
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>>23882225
Cavemen still have base level survival instincts. And not to slag Simon because he's the brains of the bunch but putting it all on him doesn't change much.
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>>23882009
>Kallen getting spitroasted and claiming you made art
True, it's only art if it's Heero getting spitroasted.
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I'm learning the right spelling of so many secondary characters today
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>>23882260
No you're not.
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>>23882261
you're right
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is Y a success or not. Are we getting more games
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>>23882269
>Are we getting more games
Yes, Q3 or 4 next year. Now post more chest/abdomen blasting
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>>23882269
We don't know the production costs so we don't know how much an SRW actually has to do to make money, but the saga has been around for almost 30 years, and is one of the longest-running in Japan. We also know that SRW 30, although mediocre, was a decent hit for Bandai since they even celebrated it with a special mission.

If we take SRW V and SRW 30, both celebrated, I think even reaching 600-700k is a success. Also, Bandai made an announcement that The Super Robot Wars (SRW) franchise officially surpassed 20 million copies sold in March 2022. So, yeah, i think the saga is alive and SRW DD, even though it's a hateful Gacha, it's bringing in money.
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>>23882269
Quite sure there will be future games, not yearly like before but we will get a new one in the future.
No doubt about it.
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>>23882282
Y did VERY well on Steam. If that can't make them money then nothing will.
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>>23882282
>even though it's a hateful Gacha
It's not that bad honestly.
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>>23882292
I can't really judge because it's only for the Japanese market. I admit I have a personal bias against gatcha, but if it can help SRW, so much the better.
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>>23882193
i would post more of my guys but i usually like to include pictures and i have no more pictures to share.
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>>23882294
I really wish DD had a global or at least english SEA release, but there's no probably not enough of a market for it here
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>>23882193
I've honestly given pretty much all my complete ideas thus far, but I might be able to tinker a bit more on the OGs I've been putting some ideas into after work today. Actually been somewhat debating on if I could try another OG to fit in with the theme I've got, maybe put together some more concrete ideas on villains.

>>23882338
Wouldn't hurt to theorycraft a bit, maybe work on some mechanics and character relationships for them before coming up with some doodles and then proper references. Even something as simple as what characters they hang out with or get along with the most.
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Idea for an Ironman challenge built into future SRW titles
>no manual saves, auto save after every action taken
>pilots shot down in combat can no longer be deployed
>greyed out in unit listing, if forcefully deployed, cannot target or be targeted
>pilot appears as a ghost in dialogues
Y/N?
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>>23882352
Sounds more like an attempt at a Nuzlocke than an Ironman.
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Oh hey, didn't notice there was an OVA for Aquarion made in 2007. I wonder if anything from it got into Z1?
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Wow, Bright getting to 30 and unlocking Captain's Order is a gamechanger for SRW Y on Expert, suddenly I can actually hit things without Spirits. Guess +40% Hit/Dodge in a 5 space radius would do that.
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>>23882229
Have a better image for MK III
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>>23882294
Well you can check out the animations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzizbxIy984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHvagiYWqUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsB5h951T4
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>>23882375
The giant fist finisher was in Z2 and Z3, otherwise no. IIRC it was an alternate retelling that doesn't even have a conclusion.
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>>23882352
Hello Fire Emblem
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Erk! F-foolish...
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>>23882422
>IIRC it was an alternate retelling that doesn't even have a conclusion.

It does.
It's a prequel to the show. Apollo fucks things up just enough with the Genesis Punch that everything shifts enough for things to wind up different in the next cycle like Sirius being alive instead of a corpse and Scorpius being a non-factor.
Hell, the final scene is the opening scene of the TV series
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>>23882385
Its a shame he has to unlock it when the other captains start with their gimmick
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>>23882481
Bright is always "that ship that you only deploy when it's forced or the only option available". Can't think of a single time I would deploy him over other stronger ships or those with very good support spirits.
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>>23882490
I use Bright when he actually gets to have subpilots
He really gets screwed out of that too often
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>>23882490
He's basically mandatory on my Expert run, 40% dodge/hit aura is too hard to pass on, otherwise I have to crowd everyone around the Elysion and the Godinion and even that has significantly diminished effect past 2 spaces (so you can realistically surround each by 12 units). Bright gives you the liberty of actually having your long-range hitters in the back.
The Elysion hits hard as fuck for a battleship and the one-time Charge to everyone makes it excellent for first strikes.
The Godinion is crazy good in this game as a pocket Morale provider, has good range and is able to repair in a pinch.
It's really hard to justify deploying the Garan Garan at the point I am in the game because besides being a Spirit dispenser it is bad both offensively and defensively and Ciela lacks a Commander field.
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>>23882490
Bright has been the second best captain to deploy in every game where he gets Captain's Order.
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https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1410773040.htm
I love gattai
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>>23882497
Once you get that part that gives any unit Leadership you can slap it on Purple 2 for some more space to work with
And later in the game you'll be able to survive outside of the safety bubble but its still convenient for the hitrates
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The thing with FUBing a scopedog is that Chirico becomes impossible to actually get into the sub-10% hp range.
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>>23882521
Just shoot him with your own mapw.
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>>23882521
Getting him into near death range without shooting yourself every map is a pain in the ass anyways. If I'm using him I'd rather just have him be good without the gimmick.
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>>23882269
I just want non-fuckhuge games.
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>>23882521
It's stupid to want that anyway given the existence of evasion decay.
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>>23882269
Is Y a success? Not in the current economy

Are we getting more games? Not in the current economy
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>>23882525
He's good enough even without it, it just feels bad to have what's basically a dud slot on the guy.
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>>23882521
The Gurren Lagann FUB would've been so much better for Chirico instead
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>>23882540
Did they feel GL wasn't immortal enough without it?
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>>23882531
fuck off, Duel
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>>23882544
No idea who that is just open your eyes and look outside. Nobody has a dime and we're going into despotic authoritarianism across the globe
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>>23882472
It also goes heavily on the Apollo=Apollonius thing which ended up not being a thing so it's canon is dubious now.
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>>23882422
If it got into SRW at all, then it's still necessary. I read all of the Getter Robo mangas just because of the rocket guns from Shin Getter Robo that keep getting into Getter-1 and Getter Dragon attack animations.
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Big O's regular melee attack DK just being punching a dude so hard they explode offscreen is really satisfying.
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>>23882269
If it really gets one more dlc pack, then it's likely Bamco consider it a success
If a new game gets announced in 1/2 years then it's likely the series is still considered worthwhile
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>>23882570
In 1/2 years we won't be playing games anymore.
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>>23882571
Hopefully you'll do us all a favor and kill yourself by then
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>>23882525
>dont upgrade evasion and armor
>max upgrade hp
>slap a barrier
There you go
Even without going down to the last 10% hp, prevail lv9 will usually give you enough evasion and defense that way.
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>>23882590
I just give him a Haro/DM Adapter and filler parts. A nuke from Jeffery/Lelouch can easily slap Chirico to 10% and the rest will do the work.
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>>23882498
Plus the best ACE bonus of all captain. +5 morale per turn for all units in his commander aura is really good in expert mode.
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>>23882546
Fuck off
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/
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Seeing the Euphinator incident happen in SRW still feels weird.
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>>23882647
it's an exclusive route split anyway
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8O4UWeAglU
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>>23882661
Crowe's gf turned in to a lizzie. I would come to believe he enjoyed that.
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>>23882647
I love me some nonsensical tragedy that makes it feel like Jupiter itself hates Lulu specifically.
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>>23882647
The plot doesn't work without it. It's like Kamina dying.
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>>23882661
Imagine if Wufei joined earlier, he could be best friends with Crowe
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>>23882211
To be fair, most of Destiny's appearances are post-plot so the events happen offscreen and Shinn's arc in those games is him growing past all of that. Pretty much an easy way to have all three of them on the same side from the start.
>>23882684
Yeah, it's one of those things where they would have to completely rewrite the plot going forward if they removed it. Even DD played it straight.
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>>23882713
Yeah but it's been consistent for Shinn's plot to be "I fucked up by going all in with Durandal and need to make up for that" which is also what they went with in SEED Freedom. Stella dying is a big part of his motivation for doing that.
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>>23882677
I still find it funny that out of all the things he could have hypothetically said that was the first thing to come to his mind.
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>>23882684
I get it, you can't really remove that event from CG without turning it into a spinoff.
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Can't we have Rey back? I want my Zaft Red combination again
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>>23882677
Lulu suffering is the spice that makes geass worth watching
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Speaking of, D is the only game to actually kill the Purus. In every other game they're either secrets or they live by default.
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>>23882719
It's not like Freedom could have ignored it. Though, I do wish the movie had a scene of him talking to Cagalli or Mu.
>>23882723
I just remembered the fanfic Code Prime had Megatron replace Euphie with an imposter to cause the massacre then the plot deviates from there.
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>>23882730
The Purus weren't in D except as an easter egg for putting Judau in the Zeta. Wondering why post-plot shows have people still dead at the end of them is pretty silly.
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>>23882721
What's odd about it? He basically said "Hypothetically, a best case application of my power" that would personally benefit him the most. Thats how his brain works, he gave her an example he already considered.
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>>23882739
I think it all depends on the character, like a few games with post-plot G Gundam have Master Asia coming back from the dead or V having Amuro survive CCA I think he just popped into another dimension.
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>>23882723
Code Geass explored that recently
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>>23881650
>but by Z3 his voice gave out.
>check it out
jesus christ
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>>23882744
Has that game done an AU where Lelouch is the one who ends up blind and crippled rather than Nunnally? I wonder how that universe would turn out.
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>>23882745
It's just the way it is, Judau's VA is just as damaged, if not worse.
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>>23882747
No, and it probably never will because that idea is stupid
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>>23882748
Way worse, no doubt due to cigars, hence why he had to be replaced in One Piece. Don't smoke kids. KENN at least seems to be a decent Judau, but so far he is only on that UC Engage game.
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>>23882751
I'm amazed Toru Furuya on the other hand was still able to do Amuro's voice for over 40 years.
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>>23882271
>Another entire year and a half for a new SRW
I really should have played through Y with all animations on 100% of the time to drag out the game longer
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>>23882757
And that's a hopeful estimate, in truth it's entirely likely we won't get a new game until 2028
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>>23882745
To be fair, his voice already shifted by the time GX made it into Alpha Gaiden. Go watch X versus what Garrod sounds like in AG.

Not everybody can be Kappei Yamaguichi.
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>>23882742
>What's odd about it?
It's fucked up and he never really made those kind of dead baby jokes before. He could have said if she made Zero a duke or some shit. There about a thousand things more beneficial for him.
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>>23882757
>to drag out the game longer
The average completionist SRW 30 or Y playthrough with DLCs already takes >100 hours while skipping most animations, they're way longer than preceding titles unless you count multiple playthroughs to see every route.
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>>23882661
By the time the darkness is gone, there is only Irish in his heart
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>>23882767
A fate worse than death
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There's a lot to rightfully criticize when it comes to SRW 30, but what are the things that it did right - or very strongly?
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>>23882753
No smoke, healthy eating, and lots of sex probably helped
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>>23882775
I did like Amuro getting the kind of upgrade chain he had in older games
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>>23882775
I'm still going through it but the Rabbit Squad, GunxSword, and Gridman characters are very likeable and mesh well with the rest of the group.
As far as forced Ships go, the Dreikreuz is pretty combat capable and can be upgraded as a bit of a 'lynchpin' in your forces.
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>>23882775
Enemy variety, UI, and the bigger portraits in dialogue are better than in Y
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>>23882762
does Z2 reuse his AG lines
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>>23882762
>Not everybody can be Kappei Yamaguichi.
Tohru Furuya was. Then he turned out to be a fucknut.
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>>23882781
That I'll agree with, there's a good mixture of enemies between the various series.
You're not just seeing Zeon everywhere or invaders.
Between Zanscare, Heavy Metals, KMF, and the various super enemies (The Super Ai, Kaiju) you aren't just slapping one force around for very long before hitting a different one.
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>>23882783
>le drama
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>>23882775
Most of the things it did good could also be applied to Y because of the similar formula, but for a few specific ones
The game allows the player to chose when to obtain upgrades that are usually locked to the halfway point or later. Look how quickly you can make Koji go from the Ichinana to Z, or how early you can get the V2 and the AB parts, L-Gaim MkII etc. I think this system allows fans to get their hands on their favorite toys at their pace. There are still some that are story locked and so can only be obtained very late (Hakaioh, Gun x Sword) but they are a minority
I like the way the story gives lots of appearances to secret pilots as well as enemy pilots that eventually join. Olibee, Nei, Gablae Akane, Anti, Victim, Lamia. It gives the impression them joining the heroes is something the player earned during the entire playthrough. I particularly liked Nei' secret stage with Gablae freeing her before her execution and "kidnapping" Olibee (which then follows on Olibee also joining after the L-Gaim finale)
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>>23882763
Despite what fans think, Lelouch wasn't making a joke. He was using a best application example, probably one he already considered going in but didn't go with because he was going to do the method that made him look like a martyr and have a miraculous recovery.

And no, that really was THE best outcome for him, simultaneously discrediting her and inciting a country wide rebellion and rallying even more support to him.
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Everyone praises Jeeg's animations in SRW Y but personally the ones for Wing Zero are the cleanest shit I've ever seen in a SRW title even if the attacks themselves are simple.
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>>23882784
Counterpoint: The Quaestors were obnoxious to fight and they were the most common enemy
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>>23882791
They were fucking hideous to look at too, it's like someone designed only the upper part of a robot and completely forgot the bottom part and just taped the legs to the torso.
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>>23882786
L-Gaim actually feels very well paced with how you interact with it.
Even if you don't blitz through its storyline, it seems to flow far better than some of the others where time seems to jump along the storyline.

That being said, I also agree with the secret units, they have a lot of stage interactions after you get them so they don't 'just' sit in the background like a few of the OG units do.

>>23882791
Oh, that I agree.
They feel almost like super beefy real types.
Heavy Metals are kinda weird in that aspect but are no where near as bad by end game.
When you first meet them, the Heavy Metals actually pose a problem with the beam resistance.
By end game it does fall off a little.
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>>23882793
I never had an issue with the grunt Heavy Metals, the Kedora can shred you, though. The elite Heavy Metals with MAP attacks are a real fucking danger though, I'm always monitoring my positioning like a hawk when up against multiple.
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>>23882796
The Grunts are initially more a speedbump but, like you said, those elite ones are pretty dangerous.
The Heavy Metal aces especially, I feel, are some of the more threatening units out there as they WILL rip you a new one if you aren't careful.
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>>23882152
Boobs
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>>23882782
He got new ones in Z1, that's what they've been reusing for Z2. His voice went to shit by the time Z3 came out.
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>>23882775
Love the UI in 30, I wish they kept that for Y
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What is your most despised enemy to fight? For me it's this little asshole and his bullet sponge KMF. The psychological effect of having your damage halved is way worse than if he had double the HP in ways I cannot explain.
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Why is the story so bad now
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>>23882803
Because that makes big number less big, and that makes your own Will score go way down
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>>23882781
30's UI was dogshit. Its down there with Jigoku.
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>>23882807
It's better than the unfinished place holder shit we got in Y. I don't know what it is with games these days that just can't make a compelling looking hud.
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>>23882803
that one designated stage with 10 million mooks that have as much HP as bosses
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Man, having Musashi around in Z2 so much is a weird feeling.
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>>23882800
Which of the Z1 returnees did get new lines in Z2. I know Amuro and Kira did. It helps that their actors were already voicing Ribbons and Gino.
>>23882811
And he gets to pilot Shin Getter-3 for the first time. Which I don't think he got to do even in the show.
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>>23882816
>And he gets to pilot Shin Getter-3 for the first time. Which I don't think he got to do even in the show.

Nope. His death in Armageddon was not his most dignified.
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>>23882753
He didn't smoke, and it wasn't too raspy so he wasn't straining his voice much. It's why Greenriver and Koyasu's voices are mostly untouched by time, they didn't have to strain themselves doing crazy raspy voices for all those years.
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>>23882816
I know at least Apollo has new ones.
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>>23882193
I've had an idea that one theme that could be explored for at least a portion of a SRW game could be pilots in outdated mechs struggling to keep up with more advanced mechs. Like for the Gundam side you could add the early UC guys like 0080, 0th MS Team etc as they wonder if they can really help much with the NT-1 and the EZ8 whilst CCA era and later mechs are vastly more advanced. They could then have this narrative point be a reason to give them new, flashier attacks and have their piloting skills and confidence make up for their mech's shortcomings. I mostly thought of this when I saw how G Generation Eternal are making EX attacks for suits that look way more flashier and outside the box that the suits never did in their native shows and thought they could do that to modernise early UC stuff for a new SRW.
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>>23882193
I don't have a fully fleshed out idea really as much as I just want the new OC to be a team rather than just a mercenary or another soldier or a smelly hobo or whatever they've been the past few times. I want a original team of combiners in the tradition of Combattler and Voltes
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>>23882748
Yao had been basically unable to do his old Judau/Shinobu voice for like 20 years already unfortunately so it wasn't surprising.
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>>23882751
Isn't KENN is his 40s already? He can hold out for now but in about 10 years he probably will start sounding like Ass too unless they have incredible throat regeneration stuff by then
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>>23882863
Dude can still pull off Judai relatively easy and that was close to twenty years ago and has a relatively different vocal tick than most of his more modern roles.
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When it comes to KENN this is the role I think of involving him, oddly enough
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>>23882863
KENN has had the same voice since like the GX days, not an issue.
I was rewatching a bit of Digimon Savers the other day and he sounds the exact same as Kouki as he does with Bogue in Y
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Using Daitarn 3 against AT's and KMFs feels like cheating.
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>Trigger announcing their next new title on July
Gridmanbros???
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>>23882910
Gross
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>>23882908
There's a lot of things that just some cruel if you give it any amount of thought
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>>23882912
>Hey Scope Dog pilot, go fight Mazin Kaiser
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>>23882926
Wish i had 1/100000 of the average srw mook courage. Fuckers in their garbage cans never run from the fight even after the dude one square over just got turned into light by GGGs hands
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>>23882926
It's not much better being a Vegan in one of these fucking things, and this is with the PSP hp buff.
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>>23882933
For me it's the sad fuckers that didn't even engage and just happened to be in range for a Cyflash/Meioh/SevenSwell
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>>23882910
Wouldn't Tsuburaya be the ones announcing if it was new Gridman?
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>>23882933
>"Yeah, he may be piloting a giant robot that is powered by the very essence of evolution but I survived the one year war!"
>Dra-C pilot about to eat a Stoner Sunshine
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>>23882912
>>23882926
You are now remembering in T when the AT arena booed Shin Getter out for being too big at the start of the stage.
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>>23882941
The average AT pilot might be a nutcase but even they can tell when something can just punt them to death.
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>>23882936
Listen, sometimes you are king of shit mountain because life has decided you must draw the shortest of straws
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>>23882941
>"Sir, we want this to be a fight, not a seal clubbing"
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God even Dai Guard is just walking on these KNF assholes. I didn't feel good about this at all.
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>A completely normal word
>DRRRR WHAT'S THAT.
Good god. Is this a joke that's lost in translation? I see this kind of gag way to often in anime. Where characters don't even know what words are.
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>>23882951
You have to understand, Kamina is a literal 75 IQ retard who makes it through life on guts alone.
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>>23882422
>giant fist finisher
I just finished the OVA, and I didn't see that attack at all.
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Hey, Kamille. I found a friend for you. God Alto's a complete pud.
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>>23882958
I do want a game with both early Kamille and early Alto for double "that's a girl's name" nonsense.
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>>23882926
The generic Zeon pilots in T had a line where they complain that it's completely unfair to fight against a super robot with their overwhelming power and strong armor.
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>>23882961
Oh that carries on.
In 30 its a lot of the pilots going "Hold on, you want me to fight WHAT?"
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>>23882952
>>23882951
In Japanese it's easier to not know words due to the kanji system.
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>First contact with people from another world is in a route split I missed
I feel like that was probably kind of important
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>>23882958
He's a lil shit but i love him. You both are my wings made me pop a blood vessel however
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>>23882962
A shame it was dlc, but there was that scenario in 30 where Heavy Metal pilots are scared shirtless having to fight your guys and keep confusing your units
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>>23882964
Really, it's why I don't care much for route splits in SRW. Since both routes still happen even without you there most of the time, you basically get spoiled on what happens on them even before replaying.

I'd prefer route splits if they were completely alternate events but then you had the issue both would need to branch back into mostly the same story afterwards.
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Look at all of you, damning yourselves to the fiery pits of Hell just to read a bunch of word salad fanfiction.
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>>23882775
Bringing Betterman Lamia as a playable unit.
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>>23882940
>Jerid leads The Titans against Ramiel
https://iasip.app/NyB_xccWVEKfolXoU7dwcA
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>>23882978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
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>>23882926
This shit tickles me. I would love a good version of Scramble Commander with a good roster for once to terrorize real robot grunts.
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Compact 3 is a funny 35 stage game where the protagonist somehow joins in stage minus 5.
It's not a game without other good units like Acrobunch, ABs, the right Kakuseijin setups or Getter but Ialdabaoth is just good straight out the gate without any asterisks or addendums, P options, good ranged move, good stats, 3 part slots and an overtuned as fuck pilot who has free Luck casts as part of his initial skillset and later even learns Miracle.
You can just not blackhole everything into Folka but when he's your best pilot for an entire scene, PP payouts are miserable even with the stage clear """"bonus"""" it's hard to justify not making the headstart he starts with even wider.
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>>23882978
there's a stage in SRW4 where he does that but against the Dragonosaurus from the crossover dynapro movie
they actually handle their own just fine while it's underwater but their cardboard Byarlant Beam Sabers just can't outpace its HP regen, and the Dragonosaurus has like, almost no way of hitting flying targets so it's basically 3 metapods vs a metapod 20 times their size, but still a metapod nonetheless
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>>23882963
It still works cause I doubt anyone in Simon's village actually ran a school
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>>23882954
It's the one where everyone is singing genesis of aquarion

>>23882951
It's because kanji is a complex system. Kamina is illiterate so of course he doesn't know a lot.
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>>23883012
Depends if it's spoken or not.

>>23882951
pretty sure this is just him being unfamiliar with or hating studying, are you an ESL taking it too literally or what
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>>23882789
I think if the geass didn't randomly activate he was gonna explain the aftermath of such incident. He already surrendered to euphie and just trying to give all his secrets and plans out.

>>23882790
We already said our piece about arios-san for years
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>>23882958
This shit right here is the reason why I can't stand Alto. His inferiority complex is just retarded. If you hate everyone calling you a girl, why don't you just cut your fucking hair or grow a beard or something? Not only does he look like a girl, he acts like a faggot too. Kamille is a totally different issue because kids don't get to choose their own name. If you have a funny name, you're stuck with it until you're old enough to change it or learn to live with it.
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>>23883046
The issue is that Alto is a kabuki actor who has to do the girl role.
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>>23883055
Isn't that the whole point of him joining the military so he won't have to take that role again? It's a retarded excuse. All his faggotry is his own choice.
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>>23883046
>>23883062
Do you know anything about kabuki?
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>>23883062
In the tv version he was just having a rebellious phase, he probably didn't wanna get rid of kabuki entirely as it was his entire life up to that point. Also it's not the military, he was just going to pilot school.
The movie version changed up things like he was actually having a gender crisis and he was already a private soldier from the start but I don't consider it canon.
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>>23882981
Doesn't SC2 have Shinn forced to fight Combattler V?
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>>23883067
Yes, a stage show where all males wear makeup costumes and the first born son is expected to inherit the family's prestigious stage name. But that isn't the issue with Alto. He's old enough to choose whether to follow tradition or not and he still bitches about his choice. That's why he is literally a faggot.
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>>23883067
I prefer Noh theater to Kabuki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-Kx5M-8Ak
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>>23883088
Hes a dumb (rich) teen having a teen moment anon. Coming of age and all that. Not everyone is a autist like Kamille
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>>23883088
I think what bothers me about Alto is that his whole bag, the whole Kabuki thing even his father, don't really factor that much into the plot. He fucked off from his dad no problem and barely has to deal with the guy as far as the show is concerned. It's not like it's a obstacle or conflict he has to deal with and his kabuki training really doesn't have an effect on his piloting outside of like ONE gag.
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>>23883116
Man somehow gets two idols chasing after him, bangs Sheryl, gets one of the best dogfights in the series and still complains about it all
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>>23883116
The whole thing is just a regular teen moment really. If vajra never attacked, alto would never have to join sms, and he'd probably just go back to his troupe after graduating.
Well, it's probably just an excuse to draw girl looking protagonist and give him some backstory to not feel like a blank slate.
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>>23883116
Speaking of Macross 7, just finished it.
Gamlin was my favorite character and the show did have some issues with pacing (Very disconnected until about episode 17, the latter episodes with the Devilin and Sound Force are a bit...off feeling. Not bad, just weird) but Mylene, Basara, and Gamllin carried the show for me.
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>>23883166
*Speaking of Macross, I just finished 7.
Good lord, I could learn not to flub my opening
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>>23883166
>Very disconnected until about episode 17,
for me it was when the mayor called in her insurance policy
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>>23883185
Really it was about the time Physica dies and Gamlin is on Macross 7 proper that everything flows more naturally for me.

And, frankly, I kinda stopped considering the show to have a love triangle after Basara had that midnight session with Sivil.
Really Basara felt more like a big brother figure for Mylene over a true romance option
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How possible would it be to transfer PS4's Moon Dwellers English translation over to the PS3 version of Moon Dwellers? Just for like, emulation purposes? Are they basically the same on both systems or is there like, a fundamental difference that would make it not work?
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>>23883166
Gamlin my man, also macross 7 is more of a love line than a triangle, also holy shit it has a looooot of recycled animation, you really could shave like 20 episodes outta it and lose nothing too. Fire bomber has the best macross music tho, with maybe Kaname's Axia as a close second
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>>23883207
They legit got me with him during the assault on the Devilin planet.

And yeah the show has fantastic music but GOOD LORD are you correct about the animation re-use.
Its particularly bad early on and while I don't 'quite' think you could shave off 20 episodes, I certainly think you could better pace/cut down the opening as a lot of it is - Small thing happens -> Gigil shows up -> Basara goes out and sings while people shout at him.

Basara having a VF-19 was also a nice little nod.
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>>23883207
>Fire bomber has the best macross music tho
See this is what bugs me with Macross. I accept it's the space plane music show but for the life of me I do not get the whole IDORU thing. And yes I know Minmay did it first but the execution was very different.
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>>23883243
7 at least feels more like your typical rock band than an idol shower and while its 'a part' of Plus, its more secondary/the real method of setting up the final 'boss' of the series, a mad AI.

Macross so far seems to have some pretty strong themes of Music being a way to convey emotions, feelings, and understanding across species/sides, though in 7 its more about conveying pure emotion and drive through it.
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>>23883243
As someone who watched every single macross piece of media, i think its cause there must be a balance, og and frontier give something like a 33% share of attention to music/mecha/love triangle, Plus is pure mecha, zero is just weird and Delta is somewhat like 7, in which the music is 90% of the show, but in 7 Basara sung for singings sake, and to get people and the devlins to stop being stupid for like 5 mins, while in delta they sing cause its what stops the windorks brainwashing, its like they added the idols cause its macross and you gotta have singing i guess, its almost disconected from everything else. Also like 90% of delta characters do fuckall, i Love Kaname but besides the cool Messer scene she does nothing for the plot. Hell Mikumo is only usefull in being the "Final Boss", even Makina and Reina do more in the episodes
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>>23883252
I'd even argue that Sharon Apple comes off less like a traditional Japanese Idol and more like a Digital Madona. I'll even grant Sheryl that same minus the Digital. But nobody's going KIRA KIRA SPARKURU!
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Just finished watching Orguss and it's funny how no one calls it Macross lite. It's got all the TV drama Macross had, but funnier. Mimsy gets swept up by Kei's womanizer charm and pushes Slay away, but then she's like Oh no I actually love Slay but oops, he's fucking dead. Guess I'm in love with Kei after all. Such a women moment. I'm surprised Kei didn't make a move on his own daughter before he figured out who she was, considering how much she looks like her mom. I'm guessing that was the original idea but they backed off because they didn't want to cross the incest line. Mome is best girl in the show.
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>>23883261
Ranka had her kira kira moments, but she sings Aimo so all is forgiven.
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>>23883261
That would probably be more accurate, her song style is far less 'idol' and more like a 'big show' songstress.
Given the general themes of the show, she's more a venue to cover Myung's feelings for Izamu rather than some rising star.
Really Plus is more about finding out what happened between the three to drive them apart under the guise of the Valkryie tests.
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>>23883269
>Just finished watching Orguss and it's funny how no one calls it Macross lite.
People very much make that connection. In fact back when they were selling Robotech toys they even put out a few Orguss ones under the label. It largely managed to slip through Harmony Gold's fingers somehow.
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>>23883276
Took me a while to find an image
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>>23883243
Sure the way frontier capitalized its music is different than how the original did it, but the way music is used as a plot point in the show still felt grounded.
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I legitimately hate Harmony Gold USA.
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>>23883269
Orguss is fun, def not an A-lister but still a nice enough ride
the wood paneling and prog rock is a dank choice for a ship
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https://bandai-hobby.net/item/01_7279/
This one's a surprise. HG Alteisen Riese, and it is genuinely retail. Coming out this December along with plenty of heavy hitters from 30 Minutes Preference.
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>>23883269
>Mome is best girl in the show.
Correct.
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>>23883269
>it's funny how no one calls it Macross lite
It's not necessary. Orguss is very blatantly a sequel to Macross in the same way that Voltes is a sequel to Combattler. No continuity connection, but they're two shows under the same brand/subtitle with identical mech gimmicks that aired one after the other, even straight-up recycling the term "Gerwalk" for the same purpose.
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>>23883261
Your idea of what a japanese idol is like comes entirely from otaku crap.
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>>23883269
Old Macross supplementary material had Orguss as canon since the dimension bomb went off in the 2060s. The codename for that incident? ASS-1. Look it up, it's real.
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>>23883269
Orguss was originally outright an official Macross sequel according to the Japanese wiki, taking place in the "near future" of Macross. So, when Minmay gets referenced early on and you get some Macross terms dropped it wasn't just supposed to be just references. Of course, that got thrown away when Macross became an actual franchise.
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>>23883350
Thanks anon!
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>everyone running around because Zero lost his mask to a cat.

Ohgi, I'm beginning to think Zero was not the brilliant tactician I though he was.
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>>23883324
Thanks for the update, anon. Been wanting a kit of this lad for years but always forgot about it.
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Speaking of Orguss, why are there multiple different versions of the Sky Hurricane OP? It's not even a case of two blatantly different versions at specific times like Dougram's OP or a different pitch on the OP than on the official song like Kaze no No Reply, there's like three different versions of the song playing over the OP depending on where you look for rips.

Also sucks that Animekai going down means I have to rely on a crappy Aniwatch clone to listen to my favorite version.
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>>23883357
WHOO woo-woo-woo woop-woop-woop! WHOO woo-woo-woo woop-woop-woop!
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>>23883357
they should have made that a stage
it would be the ZEXIS v ZEXIS of z2
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>>23883357
That cat is a menace who can single handedly destroy Suzaku and humble Zero by just existing.
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Why did Aquarion of all shows get not only dubbed, but an actually watchable dub?
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What series would fit in a game with Testament?
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>>23883404
Dragonar. Because why not.
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You know I'm really loving the way the game expects me to beat enemies in X amount of turns while starting me 100 miles away from the enemies!
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>>23883407
You can use your ships to carry your units, the morale penalty barely matters
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>>23882804
Which game?
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>>23883404
IBO, both are on Mars.
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I got to give Z2 credit, it's a lot more of what I wanted out of this series crossover wise. Interactions feel a bit more intimate and involved rather than the standard characters standing next to each other while plot happens.
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>>23883357
CG is a comedy show
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>Part that fully recharges energy at the start of every turn
Kamille's drunk driving adventure continues it seems.
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>>23883410
SRW 30
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>>23883407
If this is any game other than impact on full sr point run, it's a you problem
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>>23883446
Because they went too far into "You can pick your own path!" which also meant they had no idea how to pace or plan the plot as you could conceivably hit it at any point with any amount of units.
I'm at the tail end and it doesn't get all that much better.
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>>23883407
Ships or Accel
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>>23883446
>>23883451
Yeah, the best part of 30's story is some stuff in the middle of the game, especially around the time GaoGaiGar returns. The end game actually feels like it has less stakes than early on since you go picking up separate enemies one by one and as a result they don't feel like much of a threat.
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>>23883445
That part also works wonders on Jet Jaguar strongest attack.
You can spam the strongest attack in the game and next turn you can do it again.
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>>23883473
I mean, that is what we call a 'logical' use of the part
Meanwhile I'm just cackling at the idea of Kamille smashing into several mobile suits and a kaiju while screaming.

>>23883461
Its one of the more unevenly paced stories I've played as it starts fine, then becomes incoherent, reclaims it a little, then loses it again.
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>>23883444
Yup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOygr_KIQu0
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>>23883477
"I'm at soup" lives rent free in my head.
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>>23883450
A lot of Impact's SR points arent timed anyway.
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>>23883478
For me it's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtuWHWMmNVA
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>>23883477
It does make me a little angry that this shit was popular
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>>23883486
geass or the abridged
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>>23883445
I gave it to Domon
Can't take damage if he's throwing seven Sekiha Tenkyokens per enemy phase
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>>23883497
Such a simple thing but lets so many crazy things happen
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I always forget her name is actually Lady. Like it's not a title or anything it's what her parents called her and used to be a fairly common name..
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>>23883116
I can't believe Delta has one single positive thing over F (why does SRW always call it F and never Frontier?).
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>>23883519
Saves on typeface
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>>23883519
Cause it's the official title. All macross tv titles are like that (マクロス7, マクロスF, マクロスΔ)
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>>23883343
Japanese idols ARE Otaku crap
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>>23883529
See that's sort of where I get a bit loss. How did this become so deeply entrenched into otaku culture. I can't help but feel a generally male demographic would have different taste in music.
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>>23883529
nobody is doing that kind of catchphrase in real life, also akiba culture and general anime culture isn't the same. that's why that anon called you out
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Just had a random thought that Gun x Sword and Getter Robo Arc could work in a SRW. I can see Van and Takuma getting along well over both having a revenge target. And the final stages for both could have one cheering the other on to deliver the final blow.
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>>23883540
Where does this "出撃不可" show up in full? I only see half of it on the menu
Also why are there two kinds of 合体
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Any time there's a meeting on the ship I can't help but imagine Kamina and the Gurren Team sitting at some kind of kiddie table while the adults talk.
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>>23883607
I'm not gonna forgive you for that.
Ever.
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>>23883603
Go to bandai and tell them your idea.
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>>23883407
Git gud.
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>>23883539
Because Japanese men love cute girls doing cute things which is what idoling is all about.
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>>23883604
The first gattai is for the stat screen, the second one is when you're combining unit on the field?
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>>23883629
It seems like both are menu. One is for actual combination units (Gurren + Lagann), the other is for solo "combination" units (Dancouga Nova, God Mars)
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Man that God Hand 4koma wasn't kidding.
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>>23883617
This is probably... accurate?
Kamina would have little interest in the actual goings-on in the world. Most of his "leadership" is hearing the others talk about someone and saying "yea I don't like him, let's go kick his ass". On the flip side, IIRC the game specifically call out that he's great with the kids and leading them around. So it'd be 100% be on-brand for him to be hanging around with the kids talking about how to be good members of Team Gurren.
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>>23883072
I have learned to ignore movie versions of things because they're all mostly awful fanfiction.
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>>23883654
reading these threads I've realized that as a GL fan I'm very lucky, even if I don't like a lot of the things the movies changed
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>>23882983
I just want the dude back in a new game.
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>>23883655
I think removing the entire teppelin battle arc is worse than whatever macross movies did. You straight up don't get the full story if you only watched the movies.
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>>23883516
The Chinese were worse when it came to naming children, imagine you're a chinese peasant toddler and your parents name you Dogshit Six in order to ward away bad luck.
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>>23882269
Yes and most likely.
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>>23882647
Treize protecting himself from Emperor Lelouch's mass geass by simply having his eyes closed was funny.
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>>23883660
It might be my biased perspective, but I think the movie is very unabashedly fanservice rather than a replacement/compilation of the original. It very much expects the audience to have seen the TV series, and even people who like the movies (mostly the second) say you should watch the TV series first.
Slicing off meeting Kittan&Co and skipping over the Teppelin arc is less bad than some other things they could have done to the story.

(Also, there's not that much left to the Teppelin arc? Simon and Co already beat all four generals by the end of the first movie. All that's left is to charge Dekabutsu and for Simon to face down Lordgenome with Viral watching, and the movie pretty much covers the latter.)
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>>23883666
No anon, he only closed his eyes because he doesn't like it. He's standing besides Lelouch, he can't be geassed.
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>>23882757
We really need different mechs per OG again. The ninja bot being a different color depending in Y is not enough, it has to be totally different robots. Think the last time we got that was Z1.
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>>23883670
I yearn for the days of the Alpha series where we got 4 OG machines and 4 different pilots.
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>>23883670
does granvang vs. vangnex not count?
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>>23883668
I dunno anon, that's the climax of part 1. It's like if star wars stopped before destroying death star and the second movie only recount luke firing the shot in a 5 minute flashback.
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>>23883674
Not really because both options are available regardless of who you choose as the main og. Talking about the mechs that are fully unique to the pilot.
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>>23883676
Actually defeating all four generals is like destroying the death star, defeating lordgenome is more like killing off the emperor.
Lordgenome doesn't appear to Dai Gurren-dan at all during the movie, and at the end they've defeated the major immediate threat but know they still have more battles to go. That's exactly how ANH ends.

The 2nd movie flashback is more like if 1) star wars itself had no ESB, no Han rescue, and skipped straight to Endor+Throne room, and 2) they montaged the throne room. Which isn't ideal for sure, but also isn't that bad considering how much fluff Endor and the second death star had.
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>>23883677
but we all know chitose is for granvang
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>>23883680
agreed
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>>23883677
>mechs that are fully unique to the pilot with multiple selectable protagonists
So 64, A*, R*, Alpha 2, Alpha 3 and Z1.
Surprisingly small number when you add that criteria huh.
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>>23883685
And you're already stretching the definition by including A and R. Even then, other than alpha 3 and Z1 the scenarios don't change much.
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>>23883670
I just want a super robot variant and a real robot variant with their own upgrades again.
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>>23883691
Yeah, Alpha 2 had what 3? or so stages that were truly unique to each character since most of the intro was the same pool of maps but in a different order. So Kusuha would get Brain Powerd early compared to say like Ibis.
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>>23882193
Are there enough "tournament" mech series out there for a full blown tourney themed SRW?
G Gundam
Iron Leaguer
Gundam Build series
What others?
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>>23883731
errr
gunbuster had an unsanctioned school contest, does that count
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>>23883731
IGPX
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>>23882863
44 years old specifically.
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>>23883254
No direct mention of Macross II itself?
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One of the non-GGG Braves.
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Translation anon, if you're here, are you planning on doing Saisen-Hen aswell?
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>>23883529
Wrong.
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>>23883782
ye
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>>23883803
>>23883529
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When are you gonna do Z3 Tengoku Hen translation man?
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>>23883827
please understand
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Not a single flaw on this game.
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>>23883829
arc gurren not playable
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>>23883827
I'd rather Z1 get translated first, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were working on a remake.
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>>23883829
You mean this
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>>23883806
I guess house of cards is an otaku show since politics is otaku crap too apparently.
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https://x.com/snowballearth_o/status/2059922632368415192

Bravern will appear in an upcoming episode of in Snowball Earth?!
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>>23883837
>>23883840
Picked the fuck up.
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who the fuck is Bravern
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>>23883845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw_k_3NkfXI
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>>23883845
Lurk 5 years faggot.
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Sex with ISAMI.
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>>23883845
Homoshit.
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Sex with Superbia.
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>>23883829
You can't get any of the Tallgeese or Epyon
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So, Y just got anther steamdb update. Wonder if it's just a patch or them doing something with that random dlc package that's been hanging around
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>>23883829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wF1n5oo3Ws
He's never going to get another shot at SRW
Even if it is just Geno you can't help but feel sorry for him
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>>23883806
Train?
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>>23883895
Yes, trains.
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>>23883893
Its animations are indeed as bad as I remember them being.
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>>23883895
You will get murdered by a train otaku if you piss them off.
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>tfw I realized Mordred was just KMF Virtue
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>>23883895
Brother we have mightgaine and shinkalion, trains are considered autist stuff even in the west, why are you surprised?
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You know who else loved trains? One of history's greatest autismos, Walt Disney.
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>>23883829
>[NO MOON]
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>>23883528
So all this time, everyone calling it Frontier was actually wrong?
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>>23883909
>autist stuff
There's nothing autistic about admiring mechanical wonders. If anything it's a male trait to do so.
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>>23882775
dlc characters actually fucking talk outside of the dlc missions
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>>23883840
>>23883843
It's funny because the writer and Director of the anime adaptation also worked together on ZLS, another Cygames IP
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>>23883837
>>23883840
I don't get the full scope about what Snowball Earth even is. If they're making Bravern show up now, that just opens a new can of worms, and that it's a stealth sequel to Bang Bravern.
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>>23883829
Aside from everything, of course
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>>23883916
>blue
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>>23883935
Yes, some more then others but for the most part they actually chimed in
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Half the fun of Hi-Nu and Nightingale is giving Nu and Sazabi to your other pilots but in Y the only spare Newtypes you have are Neo-Zeon's Doofus and Goofus
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>>23883927
No you dumbass retarded cock sucking faggot
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>>23883832
They can't remake Z1 in HD. It's got too much stuff in it. They'd have to gut half the game
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>>23883837
>>23883840
Different studio, but I guess they were fond of the bit where Aquarion made a guest appearance in Sentai Red Isekai last year lol
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>>23883984
HD has not necessarily turned to SRW favor
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So what's the deal with the Z series. You got
Z
Z2.1 Z2.2
Z3.1 Z3.2
But are they all connected?
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>>23884001
No fucking shit genius
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>>23884006
Yeah, they're all direct sequels for better or worse.
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>>23884006
The Z series was supposed to be another Alpha series, except that shit fell apart real quick.
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>>23884001
HD hasn't turned to many franchises favor.
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>>23884074
Chasing ever-increasing graphical fidelity has fucked video games as a whole in the ass.
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>>23884074
>to many franchises favor.
Not all franchises? Who are the exceptions?
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>>23884077
Them Sony movie games. Oh sure, they can work out a good balance, like Ghosts of Tsushima, but these games more often than not worry too much on story and narrative and such, while looking as graphically 'realistic' as possible, THEN it worries on gameplay.
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>>23884077
Any franchise where the graphics were basically the entire draw.
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>>23884016
Looks like the shrunk the hg a bit, especially noticeable in the bunker arm
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>>23884081
I don't know that I'd say even those. Ghost was alright but it's still pretty bloated.
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>>23884073
Even from the start, they made Z with the idea that maybe they'd make it it into another series if it sold well enough, which is the bulk of the problem because most of the stuff Z set up for later, they changed their minds on in Z2. And then changed their minds AGAIN for Z3. They didn't have a cohesive story planned out like they did with Alpha.
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Man I've been watching Kallen and Allenby's retarded club for so long I forgot the former was at one point a somewhat serious character. With sorrows and tragedy and goals.
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>>23884113
That was premovie
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>>23884113
>Kallen and Allenby
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>>23884105
Alpha went off the rails multiple times. Notably when they lost Giant Robo and had to make up Ganeden in Alpha 2.
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>>23883937
Didn't ask.
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Which route is the hard mode true ending route in Y?
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>>23884135
There is no true ending as far as I'm aware but Reject has a harder fight.
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>>23884105
>changed their minds
Did they? Z2 is just like those OG games where they decided to add more to the lore before wrapping everything up and Z3 is a proper follow up to it. I don't think there's anything inconsistent with them outside of not being able to get Z1 series back? I mean, the og plot is still wack but that's a different issue.
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>>23884144
A suspicious number of plot threats from the Original plot ended with "Actually this character was wrong/deliberately lied about stuff they were talking about in favor of this very mundane and easy to implement end point" that I find it hard to believe it was their original intention. I can't believe their plan with Asakim from the start was "He's just a projection of Shuroga and everything he rambled about for 3 games was just nonsense that was all in his head because he didn't realize he was a projection" Plus nearly everything from Z2's original plot ending up being "The Angels were fucking with everyone. The end."
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If they had a coherent plot preplanned from Z to Z3 and I don't mean the series stuff that they didn't have control over but just the general universe plot and that was the best they could come up with then they're all incompetent morons.
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I still feel offended by the true power of Mazinger in Z3 being a mild stat buff
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>>23884124
That's the opposite though. they made up stuff in Alpha to keep the story they had planned even after losing series. Meanwhile, Z series was outright throwing away story points from previous games even when licensing wasn't an issue (Aquarion).
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Happy 35th birthday to Mitsuba's voice actress, Saori Hayami.
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>>23884215
Aquarion really had no choice. They didn't know a sequel was gonna come out after Z2 that completely flipped a major plot point they'd built into the story.
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>>23884219
They should've just committed to what they had planned, is not like they haven't made up bullshit for other series before.
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>>23884226
The license holders may not have allowed them to, you never know
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>>23884226
Yeah but if Evol was forced in due to executive mandate then there was really no way around it.
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Zoids' eventual return in SRW will be crazy good.
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>>23884215
What series did they lose? I was going to say they didn't have L Gaim in there unlike F, but I doubt they could ever "lose" Bandai licenses because they are owned by Bandai.
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>>23884235
Zoids really is quite the crossover whore, not that I mind
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>>23884215
No. There's definitely all sorts of stuff in Alpha where its obvious that they didnt get to follow up on a bunch of hanging plot threads or the loss of licenses force them to ignore obvious shit central to previous games.
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They didn't really "lose" anything. A bunch of Z1 series didn't come back for 3 but they were pretty much complete. The only ones that had some lingering plot threads were King Gainer- XAN was supposed to come back, but never did. Xabungle-Timp got left behind in Zexis world, with Jiron pointing out they'll have to come back for him at some point (Although I guess the worlds merging fixed that). And Gravion- Eiji never finds out his sister is Raven, when the time came for the reveal in Z1 they didn't do it for some reason with Z1's ending having Raven think sometime soon the truth would be revealed, but Raven never appeared again and then Gravion was dropped.
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Z2.1 debuted:
>VOTOMS
>Gundam 00
>Shin Mazinger Z
>Dai-Guard
>Code Geass
>TTGL
What an absolute banger of a game.
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>>23884219
I mean, I'm not talking about retconning Apollo's backstory (they actually kind of explain it better than the anime, saying Apollonius' will was imbued into Pollon, which explains those past-incarnation moments), the problem is that the status quo of the original Aquarion from Z2 (where it was part of the team as normal) to Z3.1 (sealed away a long time ago to stop the time prison, Zen pilots the original Aquarion in the present by the end with them being nowhere, seemingly just having died by then) to Z3.2 (NOW they're unsealed and the Aquarion had been sealed with them all along which is why it can't even transform anymore) is really messy and clearly they're just making up stuff as they go along.
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>>23884255
Even that had mistakes in it as Zexis characters recognized the Aquarion and spoke about Apollo even though according to Tengoku Apollo wasn't in Z2 anymore so they'd never met him
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The funniest thing about the Z series is that the ending for Z3 is just Z1's good ending where you restore the world to how it was before the bomb (the canon ending is letting the world stay merged).
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>>23884238
The one people keep bringing up is Giant Robo, of course. Although that was always a messy license. Even SRW64 has no real complete Giant Robo plot and the licensed Giant Robo game for the PS2 had to freaking censor Red Mask.

You have a bunch of UC Gundams disappearing, but it's really clearly just them not wanting to overload the cast with them, since licensing shouldn't be an issue.

Then a couple of clearly finished shows that they didn't want to bother bringing back like Alpha 2's Brain Powerd.

What I was referencing up there was specifically the Giant Robo situaiton though. Irui Gan Eden and the plot around her were created to replace the role Big Fire was supposed to play in the Alpha sequels. So, yeah, they lost an entire show that was supposed to be important for the OG Alpha plot, and yet just replaced it with OG characters to keep the plans they had.
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>>23882058
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>>23884271
Speaking of Mazin Emperor G, what BGM did you guys use for him in Y? I'm torn between Shugoshin and Mazin Kenzan, I'm using Fire Wars for Mazinkaiser.
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Given Z3 was the pinnacle of them attempting to see just how badly they could get away with stuff after the all the good will they'd gained throughout the years I have to wonder if the reason the plot was so halfassed is they just didn't give a shit. Or more specifically were told by the higher ups not to give a shit because nobody would care so long as their usual licensed characters showed up. Which much like the summon only characters, proved they greatly overestimated how much they could get away with. You can tell Terada knew it wasn't up to standard based on how little hype he had in previews compared to Z2 and OGS2
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>>23884296
Z3 probably had a lot of cut corners because of the transition to HD (which should've never happened honestly).
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>>23884303
HD didn't cause the nonsense with Aquarion's plot or Asakim's backstory. Beyond not being able to transform into anything but Solar, but that's the least of it's problems.
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>>23882058
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>>23884218
I forgot she was the girl from Franxx who cucked the fat guy.
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>>23884219
Like what? The only thing I heard is that the OG Aquarion cast was retconned out of Z2.
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>>23884327
Aquarion in Z leaned hard into Apollo=Apollonius like everyone who watched the show originally assumed. So when Evol joined in where Apollo=Apollonius's dog was what happened instead it pretty much through everything off.
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>>23884332
>Lulu is actually taller than someone
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>>23884330
That was one of the greatest shitposts in mecha anime history.
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>>23884006
also z special disc and rengoku hen
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>>23884341
>178 cm
Not too horrible I suppose
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>>23884315
Still a bit salty they didn't redo all of Shurouga's animations to HD.
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I fucking hate Shurouga Sin
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so z3.1 being rough I can understand, what's the excuse for z3.2
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>>23884404
Z3.2 and Z3.1 could've been a single game, although personally I'm fine with them being split up since it means we got Diebuster into a game that isn't a dead mobile gacha.
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>>23884404
I vaguely remember hearing a rumor that one of the higher ups at Bamco who loved SRW left between games which is why Tengoku is so scuffed but I can't even remember where I heard that so it's probably not true
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>>23884389
rip
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>>23884404
It was a rougher second half of a chopped game in a series that really, REALLY should end things now.
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>>23884389
>The Gundam X guy is dead
Man that sucks. That's my favorite Gundam other than Turn A.
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>>23884428
Someone majorly responsible for Godannar too, it seems
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>>23884431
I heard that show was the most fanservicey show ever. Though I've heard Dancougar Nova is a match for it, but I'm prevented from watching that show even after watching Gravion and Gravion Zwei due to how I still have to watch Dancougar.

Does Dancougar have a good sub? Does Layzner? Those are the only two mech shows I can think of watching right now.
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>>23884458
Suck off a shotgun queerlord
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Hakyu~!
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>>23884466
gesundheit
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>the Aerial gets rebuilt
>Escutcheon goes from 7 to 4 range
>long range attack costs 90 whole fucking EN
This is supposed to be an upgrade?? What the fuck
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>>23884489
You get a better P move while turning into your bog standard long range RR MC.
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>the big Nirvash upgrade is a 2-attack wonder
I am now remembering the Nirvash upgrade in Z and how much of a gamebreaker it was and wondering what went wrong. No one on the dev team loved this thing.
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>>23884495
Where are the long range SR MCs?
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>>23884504
At the Obari house.
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>>23884504
Ideon?
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>>23884497
All Nirvash are historically a bit lame in SRW.
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>>23884404
They kinda really blew their load early in Z3.1 didn't they? Like having the fight against Anti Spiral there, as well as doing the CCA plot and how that was resolved which is also basically the culmination of Char's arc through the Z games.
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>>23884504
Your Da-Garn?
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>>23883961
Adding ZZ would've given us more newtypes to use.
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>>23884497
>>23884513
Nirvash Spec 3 and V literally only have two fucking moves anyway. Its less "hating" and more that's all they got.
Besides, Spec V does get a sweet +90 SP for free on Renton's ace bonus and gets to leverage S Air for a massive chunk of Hakai because there's only like 5? mandatory space maps in the game. So its a perfectly adequate unit.
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>>23884497
Does the bit laser have pierce or ignore size at least?
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>>23884524
Spec V is L, so it doesnt really need Ignore Size. Renton learns Courage for the moments where it does matter.
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>>23884294
I went with Mazin Kenzan while Kaiser gets the OG Mazinkaiser song because it's technically the OG Kaiser and not the OVA one.
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>>23884524
It has ignore size on it, why, I don't know, it's L-sized already.
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>>23884489
What's the problem? Same thing happens to WGZ when it unlocks TBR max output.
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>>23883961
you WILL put my wife Fa in the Nu and have her go crazy
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Putting Quess in the Nu Gundam is one of the best reasons to have the Hi-Nu around.
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fufu kuru kuru
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>>23884255
>>23884260
According to what i read in the japanese wiki Z3 didn't retcon Z2's aquarion and simply said that after the worlds merged they were sent to the Evol world where they had to do that sealing shit they did.
>>23884006
I think it's more like every numbered game being an alternate sequel to the previous ones. Since they follow a merge of mutually exclusive paths, act as if both rand and setsuko's story modes happenned and have multiple contradictions (like iirc Fourth being dead in special disk but alive in Z2 and Z3).
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I'm trying to think of any Z1 characters that were absent in Z2 but returned in Z3. I assume it's mostly the UC characters like Emma, Katz, Four, and Haman.
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>>23884369
>178cm
>not too horrible
Is the average 4chan user 6'2 or something?
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>>23884504
King J-Der
Dancouga sometimes
Bismark if it ever shows up in a game
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>>23884613
I mean I don't know about anyone else here but I'm 183 cm, but that's almost 20 over the average for where I live.
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>>23884616
>183 cm
>20 over the average
Where in the hell DO you live and what's it like being a giant there
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>>23884497
>she doesn't know

>>23884408
>>23884411
>>23884423
>>23884514
What do they even DO in Part 2 for 60~ stages with route splits?
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>>23884235
>>23884243
I look forward to everyone getting flung to Planet Zi for the plot. Preferably without Zeta and CCA involved.
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>>23884294
Shugoshin will ALWAYS be the theme I give Great Mazinger and Mazin Emperor G. I will never go back to anything else.
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>>23884497
Spec 2 was super overpowered because of seven swell and the movie doesn't have that, what can they do? Outside of having MAP, Nirvash's role in Z1 was a fast flying TRI attacker and that doesn't really transfer to solo unit gameplay.
The real nerf to Renton is not having the skill Liftboard (basically newtype), that's why he's not as agile, but having another set of spirit command kinda mitigated that.
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>>23884625
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>>23884613
6'5. I can reach all the shelves.
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>>23884575
More.
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>>23884628
Earth got taken over by an alien force, and a bunch of stages are like motw episodes where you take back the cities they conquered from either named lackeys or the sphere reactor bosses. If you played OGMD it's similar to where you drove out Lamalice from cities like Kairo or Paris.
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>>23884633
Wait it says average height in the UK is 174 cm, why you lying?

>>23884634
How's the weather up there?
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>>23884642
>How's the weather up there?
Not always the best but the view is terrific
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>>23884642
You're looking at the wrong average.
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>>23884644
I'm 6'2, please share your height with me.
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>Aquarion in Sentai Red
>Bravern in Snowball Earth
Are we entering an era of "Mecha from a specific show making an appearence on the other mecha show" now?
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>>23884670
Wake me when Getter Robo shows up in a love live.
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>>23884670
Hathaway will have an original ending where Takuma, Kamuo and Baku saved him and then draft him to a war against the Emperor because they couldn't find Judau
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>>23884676
It's more likely to make a cameo in a live-action show.
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New Impact LP part.
A Tobikage debut around the Grendizer base that then ends with disconnected dialogue-only teases about Raideen, G Gundam and Dunbine. Why is a videogame that already got the player's money trying to tell them to keep going?
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Wait so in the E7 movie Dominic is just dead? He was one of the best characters. Also I didn't think it possible but Holland is somehow a bigger asshole.
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>>23884741
Just watch Pocketful of Rainbows and stop reading AIslop.
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>>23884738
It's probably not a line in the original compact 2.1
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>>23884629
You can probably slap Zi onto Australia, South America, or Africa too.
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is daburu blizzardo a gacha item in DD
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>Finished Dendoh
Was Subaru in MX? I can't remember. I think I do remember his outfit from when he was piloting that one mecha beast, somehow, but I'm almost certain he doesn't end up as Vega's subpilot later even though that did happen in the show

Otherwise MX did follow the show's plot pretty closely. Kinda disappointing we didn't get METEOR as a unit, but, well, Dendoh having as much as it did in the game was miraculous to begin with
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riveting. Let's ask what Chirico thinks on this.
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>>23884942
He was, but you have assign him manually. He can even be the main pilot.
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>>23882152
Literally who?
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>>23884988
Literally new.
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this fucking guy
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>>23883899
>Dreisstrager
Shouldn't that be Dreisstraeger?
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>>23885001
probably
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>>23884958
how come they're saying chirico's catchphrase
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>>23884995
>only fades out like a Fire Emblem unit

I mean I get it because their explosion would be a bloody mess, can't even do it magic-like like the Cross Ange dagrons.
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Does anyone honestly wish we see the Dygenguar and Gundam Spiegel in one game? German Samurai was probably made in response to the existence of the German Ninja.
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>can't make me suffer if I'm eternally drowning in debt!
Crowe, pls
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>>23884742
Might as well tell him to just read Peter Pan.
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>think it's a mistranslation
>check
>nope, Simon really does call Leeron "Ron"
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>>23885145
Yeah it's called a nickname
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>>23885145
it's a reference to the hit bideo game rockman.exe legend of network
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>>23884741
>Also I didn't think it possible but Holland is somehow a bigger asshole.

That's because it's not actually Holland. Holland is dead.
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>>23884630
>Shugoshin
Patrician. I also think it's the perfect theme for Emperor.
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>>23885113
We don't even know what Sanger actually is
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Mazinkaiser is getting Dynamite Tackle in DD. There's no way it will look as bad as Y's right?
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>>23885322
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>>23883194
There was a love triangle? Basara never seemed like he had any romantic inclinations period. Even towards Sivil it never really went anywhere
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>>23885426
not that anon, but I feel Mylene was the centre of the triangle, not Basara
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>>23885426
It was something like
Gamlin->Mylene->Basara ?<->? Sibil
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>>23885428
>>23885429
Honestly until that one episode late into the series that revealed she somewhat had feelings for both blindsided me, I honestly had no idea. I thought she was somewhat into Gamlin and that was it. She even gave him that good luck charm
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>Impact LP sends Tetsuya into space
You can tell its a NG+ run because keeping Kouji is just worse overall for NG if you intend on beating most of the retreating bosses on Earth.
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>>23885322
>>23885323
You mention this but not Super Inazuma Kick?
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>>23885439
can you fuck off with your backseating of a LP that is happening on a different fucking site?
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>>23885431
It was actually the opposite, her having any interest in Gamlin was a total surprise and came off as kind of forced
She risked her family's disapproval to go join Basara's rock band and never even considered leaving despite how mad he made her get. Their relationship felt like a typical double tsundere situation
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>>23885322
They could make it look even worse
>>23885459
>He fell for obvious bait
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>>23885479
Huhh, you know that makes sense. I just never saw it like that. Mostly because Basara never so much as even blushed Mylene's way. They felt more like siblings



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