How accurate is this manga to the real-life events?was Tomino really sexually harassing the girls in his staff?did he really complain to a hentai magazine about Sayla's nipple not being pink?Was he really hated by Sunrise and Bandai executives?Did he really lie about Ideon's being very safe to children to make it pass to the producers?Did he push Zaku so much because he liked it more than Gundam?
The only things you can trust from this book are the throwaway details. Everything else is bullshit.
>>23885377>did he really complain to a hentai magazine about Sayla's nipple not being pink? Yes. Tomino himself was the one who told us the original story in an interview. >Was he really hated by Sunrise and Bandai executives? Partially. Tomino knows how to play the political game, knows how use fan support, and used the news media to his advantage. For example after Zeta movie 1 was a massive success in theaters, he was interviewed by the news. Tomino then gave a heart felt speech where he said Bandai refuses to give him a real budget. That he truly wanted to give fans better animation but Bandai refused his calls for help and only gave him a tiny animation staff. Tomino shamed Bandai and Sunrise publicly. The following days his interview was all over Japan. Bandai and Sunrise agreed to give him a bigger budget and more staff. No enough to reanimate Zeta completely, but enough to do a lot more for Movie 2.Tomino does a lot of little things like that to ensure that he gets most of what he wants. Like how he got the live action Director of Gundam (Jordan whatever his name is) fired. Tomino gave an interview where he said he felt deeply disrespected because Jordan didn't speak to him once, and refuses to respond to his attempts to contact him. Tomino was shut out of production and said he felt like an outsider. Bandai panicked and flew Jordan out to Japan and tried to play it off on social media as a trip to visit Japan and meet Tomino. But Tomino was no impressed and Jordan was fired shortly after wards >Did he push Zaku so much because he liked it more than Gundam?Back then the sponsors of anime shows didn't care about the bad guy mechas at all. So they let the animation staff so what they want with the bad guy mechas. So Tomino worked with a mecha designer (Okawara) to make Zeon's mecha as unique and memorable as possible.
>>23885377it's mostly exaggerated bullshit with some facts added here and there to push bandai's propoganda. they wanted to unveil a gundam statue so characters of various staff members were used as a mouthpiece.manga is actively disrespectful to nagano and it's recommended to check from better sources like jp wiki, pixiv dic, simmons etc for gundam production history.tldr, fake and gay.
>>23885377>How accurate is this manga to the real-life events?well, he had hair through Ideon's production, there's that for sure
>>23885392>Jordan Vogt-RobertsI remember some Gundam fans are coping thinking he's a good choice just because he talked about the franchise like ZZ and such thus giving the impression that he knows the franchise all too well. Yet dude is a fucking hack, no different than Josh Trank or that scammer who directed 47 Ronin.
>>23885392>Like how he got the live action Director of Gundam (Jordan whatever his name is) fired. Ohhhhhhhhhh I remember this. This was last year right?I remember a Japanese reporter asking Tomino if he was excited about the Netflix Live Action Gundam and if he could share any behind the scenes information with readers.Tomino surprised them and said he's very annoyed with the Director and he has no information to share because every attempt he made to get in touch with the movie staff had been met with silence. Tomino said felt like he's been blacklisted from his own franchise.Supposedly it was Tomino's dream to direct a live action movie. He wishes he could direct a live action Gundam but even if he can't he had hoped to be a consultant with the director and share ideas.
>>23885392>Tomino worked with a mecha designer (Okawara) to make Zeon's mecha as unique and memorable as possible.Pretty sure this is bullshit. I think Tomino showed Okawara half a dozen enemy mecha concept sketches all called "Gelgoog" and said he was trying to make something like Starship Troopers where these were all guys in suits. Then Okawara just ignored them and went looking for IJA scuba kamikaze photos.
>>23885495it's a pretty well known that tomino worked on sketching zeon mechs, especially in the later half.he also requested okawara to give the iconic mono eye for zaku.
>>23885377It's obviously dramatized but the broad strokes are true, surprisingly. Like how a lot of Gundam fans and normies think that Gundam got cancelled but was saved by the Gunpla, but in fact, Gunpla was released months after the series had ended, and it didn't even sell. I've read ancient blogs on FC2 from Japanese old-timers reminiscing about how they used to find kits on clearance at discount stores. It was only after New Year's when Gunpla got featured in Hobby Japan did it take off and kids had to start lining up or reserving them in advance.>>23885392>So Tomino worked with a mecha designer (Okawara) to make Zeon's mecha as unique and memorable as possible. No, the only thing that Tomino requested is that the Zaku have a mono-eye; everything else was up to Okawara and further refined by Yasuhiko. This was the arrangement until after the introduction of the G-Armor when they needed a lot of throwaway monsters-of-the-week, but Yasuhiko fell ill and Okawara was juggling other jobs, so Tomino sketched out a ton of mecha designs and Okawara only cleaned them up as they were. There really wasn't any grand plan about making them unique and memorable like you're suggesting, maybe it was true for the Zaku because it was originally intended to be the only enemy mecha in the show, but you could tell they were just churning them out by the series mid-point to avoid cancellation.
>>23885545Lololllolo I love this. He's not afraid to say he's not the only one behind Gundam it was a whole crew, And he is also not afraid to make fun of the administration.
>>23885624It was saved by women, then by reruns, and those reruns inspired them to change tacks and start selling all the mechs as model kits instead of just selling the Gundam and its associated hero mechs as basic toys.
>>23886016>It was saved by womenThis is an overstatement.
>>23885392>Like how he got the live action Director of Gundam (Jordan whatever his name is) fired.you've got a source for that anon?
>>23886016No, you're getting the timeline mixed up; Bandai had already received letters from teenage fans begging for model kits instead of Clover's diecast toys *before* the show was even over. Hell, the reruns didn't even help the model kits when they were released, because even though they were cheap, they weren't really that appealing to kids: >Meanwhile, the plastic models went on sale in August of that year. Looking at the assembled models, however, they seemed pretty lifeless. They were lanky and top-heavy, and didn't look at all like weapons. When you gave them guns, the models' arms drooped. We said, "Is this really Gunpla?" >At that point, it was actually the plastic model fans who came to our rescue. In the model magazines, scenes of the Gundam slicing through a Zaku in the first episode were reproduced as dioramas. They all used putty to add thickness to the skinny parts, turning these cheap-looking models into magnificent Gundams and Zakus. In the process, Bandai finally found out what its customers were looking for, and it released a second series which were better made. As a result, they created a big boom, with even grade-schoolers buying them.(Masao Iizuka, Planning Office Desk, Sunrise)Not to say the reruns were unpopular; Gundam fans have this impression that Zeta had the highest TV ratings of any Gundam, but it's average rating was 6.6%; meanwhile Gundam's first rerun had an average rating of 17.1% in Nagoya and 13.1% in Kanto. The Gundam hype was real.
>>23886216Don't trust the suite, they've actively been trying to rewrite history to say Gundam was always about selling model kits. Tomino has said in multiple interviews that women were what saved Gundam.
>>23886223*suitsAlso I know it's >Reddit, but it's the best source given the others are bottomfeeder news sites:https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/51pfi6/tomino_in_a_1998_interview_re_the_importance_of/
>>23886223>women were what saved GundamThis has never been true.
>>23886223I'd trust the corpo suits on the money stuff more than I would the artistsFujos don't buy model kitswell at least until 00
>>23886233I heard 00's character merch push flopped, and Seed's was more successful.
>>23886242Because 00 Gundam was trying way too hard with their character designs. All the pilots were different ages and were stereotypical. 1 older man who is witty, loves flirting, and appeals to older ladies. 1 extremely pretty/handsome ambiguously gendered robot learning about human emotions. Sometimes he wears male clothes. Sometimes she wears female clothes. 1 brown pilot short haired pilot who is full of trauma who appeals to girls who think "I can fix him".1 long haired piloted with personality disorder. One personality is soft and loving. The other personality is a hard edged cold blooded killer. And to make matters weirder, their uniforms were color coded with bright different colors. Thus defeating the purpose uniforms. They resemble power rangers rather then pilots. The most successful shows with female views (Gundam Wing and Gundam Seed) didn't use such shallow ideas.
>>23886092Pretty sure >>23885392 and >>23885462 are making it up (probably samefagging) they've been posting this fanfic since the moment the director switch was announced but have never sourced this supposed interview and nothing shows up on google even in Japanese
>>23886249Okay thank you chatgpt.
Char and Amuro is maybe the most popular pairing in the entire Gundam franchise. I am super surprised by how popular OL Haman is with both genders.
>>23886223>>23886227I'm just referring to the part where you said the reruns inspired them to start selling the mecha as model kits, which is just patently untrue. I didn't say anything about women or whatever it is you thought I said.
>>23886262Wait is that actually a chatbot post? I don't want to read it.
>>23886281NTA but while it's probably not chatgpt it's almost certainly written by an autist.
>>23886056>>23886228Why do /m/'s Gundamfags accept everything Tomino says except this? Are you insecure about the fact that Gundam appeals to a sizeable amount of women? Are you afraid of liking the same things as women?
>>23886288I'm not afraid of anything, why are you trying this hard to push a false narrative? Not only that but trying to turn it into some kind of idpol gender war crap. Are you an [[[[Anaheim Electronics]]]] employee or something?
>>23886288It's liking the same thing but liking different things about it that makes people mad. You like this, but you like it in the wrong way. As a black coffee drinker myself I totally get it.
>>23886296>I'm not afraid of anythingClearly you are since you're spouting /pol/tard rhetoric.>why are you trying this hard to push a false narrative?It's literally the word of Tomino vs the word of some basement dwellers who haven't even worked on anything Gundam related and who are oddly reactionary over this one specific claim made by the creator of the franchise.
>>23886304>/pol/ out of nowhereThanks for admitting you are not arguing in good faith.
>>23886318Thanks for projecting and admitting you're a complete retard.
>>23886287If it's made by an autist, it's fine. The issue is if it's by a chatbot, which tells me the anon either doesn't care or is a deadly combination of spiteful and lazy who wouod order bots to retort my arguments rather than factcheck or even pull something out of his ass about 00 being shit.
>>2388624900 had the best character designs of any Gundam show ever though. All the women are good looking. All of the men are handsome in their own way with appearances that match the intent of their arcs. The style is so vibrant and smooth and simply pleasant to look at. I wish anime still looked like that.
>>23886355>All the women are good lookingThey are all boring as fuck.
>>23886343I for one think it's spiteful and lazy autism; it's not written by a chatbot but certainly might be pulled out of his ass.
>>23886355No offense but I think F91 or Zeta had the best character design. 00 is great but the aliens all look the same
>>23886355>All the women are good lookingWomen don't care about that. In fact it annoys them when the anime women are too good looking.>All of the men are handsome Men don't care about that. And women care much more about emotional storytelling and drama. It's why 0079 was so popular with women. They loved the survival family drama on White Base. And to be honest...the white Base crew isn't exactly the most handsome. Hayato, Ryu, and Bright? Lol. Says alot when Bright is the most handsome.
>>23886255Can you even read Japanese? You are just a Westerner who can't keep up with the rapid speed of Japanese social media. It's already very old news.
>>23886765>Women don't care about thatBisexual ones do.>Men don't care about thatFags do.>And women care much more about emotional storytelling and dramaIf that was the case then all the bargain bin otome games and gachas wouldn't be as successful as they are when their writing is so trash. The Gundam Meisters all have emotional drama and/or love interests to hook the female audience up.
>>23886242>I heard 00's character merch push floppedYou heard lies.
>>23886785I don't see you proving it right or wrong. Then again you can't trust metrics posts given how many of them keep making up reasons to accuse G-Witch of being a commercial failure.
>>23886783>Bisexual ones do. Tiny minority>Fags They don't buy model kits. So Bandai doesnt care. GWitch proved that with its awful gunpla sales.>If that was the case then all the bargain bin otome games and gachas wouldn't be as successful as they are when their writing is so trashNo. The narrative writing is mediocre, but it's still full of cheap emotional drama. Therefore female fans get hooked. To use a food analogy, these games are "cheap fast food". Quickly made, easy to understand, and consumed quickly. A guilty pleasure for buyers.It's like people who love fast literature or fast fashion. The book may be mediocre, but readers want their cheap romance novels so they can self insert. So the books still sell.Or for fast fashion... the quality of the material is cheap, but it looks good and is trendy. Downside is the clothing will fall apart after several washes in the washing machine. But it's so cheap you can just buy more later on.>Gundam Meisters all have emotional drama and/or love interests to hook the female audience up.You don't know what you are talking about. You didn't watch the anime or have a bad memory.Neil Dylandy is dead. Lyle's love interest is dead. No one is even sure what Tieria is into. Setsuna only loves robots or is an A Sexual. Hallelujah literally gets made fun of by Japanese fans because all he can do is yell "Marie!" and get his ass kicked most of the show. The show is terrible for romance. It's a failure.An actual show with love interests for every male and female character is Gundam Wing. And female fans do love it. Another example is Season 1 of Gunpla build fighters.
>go to Japan>both men and women like Gundam>nobody gives a shitThats crazy. RIP Akihabara. You used to be cool.
>>23887013>RIP AkihabaraIt's still alive and kicking.
>>23886985>To use a food analogyYou lose.
>>23887241>You lose.
>>23886956They made a stageplay over a decade after the show ended, a stageplay that doesn't even have robots in it, it's all the characters themselves.
>>23886777"very old news" doesn't disappear from the internet. If this interview you made up existed you'd be able to link it or an article discussing it. Any slightly spicy thing Tomino says that blows up in Japan instantly gets milked for drama here but there's nothing in the archives. You only made up this interview together with your narrative after Jordan was replaced and have never once linked any source.
>>23887356>"very old news" doesn't disappear from the internet.Lol. Yes they do. Websites purge old news articles all the time. Nobody expects it to last forever on the cloud anymore. Save a copy to your personal hard drive of you want to make sure it never disappears.
>>23887502>the cloudKek what a retard.
>>23887502It doesn't matter if the original news website goes down altogether. The interview you're claiming exists would surely have been talked about in Japanese drama blogs, twitter accounts, message boards. Yet not a single trace of it exists outside of /m/ because you made it up. We're not talking about some ancient history here either, we're talking about something that supposedly happened within the last 5 years.
>>23886092There's an anon who's been pushing this line for a few years and I wouldn't be surprised if this was him.
>>23885495>I think Tomino showed Okawara half a dozen enemy mecha concept sketches all called "Gelgoog"Funnily enough, the the Gelgoog was actually one which started with a rough design by Tomino
>>23887794Are those before or after Okawara did cleanups?
>>23887808Before, picrel's a good example of the pipeline from Tomino's rough sketches > refined Okawara design > animation-ready Yasuhiko model
>>23887822I wonder why he was so ashamed of the Gyan that he deleted it from the compilations.
>>23887888Retard.
>>23887927Not a response.
>>23887888They had to fit four hours worth of episodes into two hours of movie so Gyan was cut for time and pacing, just like Bigro and Braw Bro. No idea why you think Tomino was ashamed of it.
>>23888024>No idea why you think Tomino was ashamed of itAmericans push this narrative that gundam is a super cereal show and anything that isn't a gm or a zaku is there to sell toys and therefore """filler""".
>>23888024>No idea why you think Tomino was ashamed of it.It feels like something that got cut for being "too silly", just like how they tossed the G-Fighter. At least with the Guntank they probably also thought it'd be easier to animate a second Guncannon than some man-tank in the vacuum of space that's said to be one tenth of the Federation's effective firepower at Solomon.
>>23887356This isn't 2005 anymore. The Internet is not forever. How do you not know this?
>>23888029I mean, that's the narrative Gundam Sousei pushes - that shit like the Core Block system and Mobile Armors and the Gundam being in primary colors were stuff the creatives were ashamed of. Even though they're all creators who work on children's shows to move plastic toys and Tomino certainly learned from way back in Raideen about making compromises to keep up ratings and stay in charge.
>>23887356You do realize that demanding source and insulting others just makes people not want to give it to you. Kek.
>>23888179Wrong.
>>23888278>dot kek dot
>>23888179It's not a huge offender honestly, the knight motif might seem silly on the surface, but the Gundam itself has a samurai motif so really its just par for the course as far as mecha designs in the show goes.Plus, I don't think Tomino is that precious about it. I mean, he thought the Newtype apparition thing for Dozle's last stand was overdoing it, but to be pragmatic he left it in anyway.>The only part where we went a bit overboard with the Newtype aspect was that scene in episode 36 just before Dozle dies. It's utterly ridiculous. I really wanted to reshoot it, but we ran out of time... That scene was done by Yamazaki-kun, but it's unforgivable. I was genuinely shocked when I saw it myself.
>>23887674Have you actually searched for it or are you just being lazy and refuse to find it yourself? 4chan is not your personal servant. We aren't here to spoon-feed you or help you edit your Gundam wiki article.
>>23888278only if you are a newfag who is used to getting molly coddled on plebbit or other hugbox forums.it's pretty fucking obvious that that retard is just making shit up and deserves it.call us faggots and show the source, otherwise be prepared to take the heat.
>>23885392>after Zeta movie 1 was a massive success in theaters, he was interviewed by the news. Tomino then gave a heart felt speech where he said Bandai refuses to give him a real budget. That he truly wanted to give fans better animation but Bandai refused his calls for help and only gave him a tiny animation staff. Tomino shamed Bandai and Sunrise publicly. The following days his interview was all over Japan. Bandai and Sunrise agreed to give him a bigger budget and more staff. No enough to reanimate Zeta completely, but enough to do a lot more for Movie 2.
>>23888289>but to be pragmatic he left it in anywayHe kept the spiritual pressure in Encounters In Space, but he removed the bat features so it was just a huge energy aura. Feels like the exact imagery used was his issue, not the application.
>>23888297Can't you fucking read? I said in my first post that I searched for it in Japanese. That interview doesn't exist. I'm not asking you to spoonfeed me, I'm calling you out on a lie. This isn't your fanfiction website.
>>23888029>Americans...?????
>>23888366>I said in my first post that I searched for it in Japanese. >That interview doesn't exist.Or you just suck at searching.
>>23888297Exactly. I hate these newfags who come and demand we spoonfeed them. Then get mad when we don't. Spoiled children. I've been here since 2010. No one gave me free info. I had to dig up everything myself.
>>23888297>>23888486if you think asking proof for made up bullshit is spoonfeeding then you need to genuinely kill yourself.shit like this is how we got so many retarded rumours and misinformation in the fanbase
>>23888486He thinks a simple Google search will find everything. Keke. Funny part is nany Tomino interviews are only published in Japanese books with no online scans available.Anon gotta pay for it. He wants it for free. >>23888498People like you who complain about gatekeeping are the ones the gate is meant to keep out. >>23888311>Citation neededWe are not here to help you edit Gundam wiki. Go away.
>>23888750slit your throat faggot
Sure is Discussion in here.
>>23888750How on earth is anybody supposed to take anything you say as true if you just spout it and refuse to provide backing data of any kind?
>>23888805There is only one anon here who is ultra hyper obsessed with seeing a source. You.
Stop replying to yourself.
>>23888823I literally just got here.
>>23888838Then why are you feeding into the problem by giving an noncontributing parasite (You)s? DO NOT INTERACT WITH SPAMMERS.
>>23888833I am single handedly keeping this entire fucking board alive with one hand. TRY and keep up cuck
>>23888842I think the "problem" is making claims and not producing sources dude. If you make a claim the burden of proof is on you, this isn't rocket science.or some alien concept.
>>23888855Not our fault you are ignorant.You have Google. You have social media. You have Google translate. Go find it yourself. Stop ruining the thread because you are so lazy. The rest of us arent going to stop our conversation to give you wikipedia level citations for every single little thing Tomino has said.
>>23888855>If you make a claim the burden of proof is on youDoes this look like plebbit to you? We don't care. You can't down vote us here for not obeying you.
>>23888823Because you just made up a bunch of bullshit that would never fly in Japanese media
Thread hidden.
>>23888885Stop replying to him. You are only encouraging spoodfeeders when you give in to their demands.
>>23888889I mean I wasn't the one using reddit spacing over and over again.
>>23886223The flipside of this is that Tomino always resented the commercialisation of anime, was frequently at loggerheads with sponsors throughout his career, and actively tries to rewrite history to minimise its importance while emphasising the role of the 'true' fans. You really shouldn't be taking any of these guys' memories as 100% gospel truth, and should always be trying to cross-reference their claims wherever possible. Even without cynical motives, or people consciously trying to emphasise/downplay an aspect of the thing or whatever, they're still recounting stuff that happened 45+ years ago, and anecdotes have a tendency to slowly shift every time they're re-told (or even incorporate stuff which other people have told them after the fact, regardless of if it's true)What we do know for certain is that Bandai acquired the license to produce Gundam plastic kits in December 1979, design work started immediately (the finalised 1/144 Gundam kit design is dated Feb 7th 1980 (Showa 55年2月7日), just 10 days after the last episode of MSG aired), and that Bandai had received letters from people expressing interest in licensed Gundam kits. The reruns were obviously a big part in generating ongoing interest in Gundam between the first run ending and the first movie releasing, but they weren't the thing which inspired the model kits
>>23888893The more you cry about sources, the more it makes me happy. Go back to Gundam wiki. Do research yourself.
>>23888929>You really shouldn't be taking any of these guys' memories as 100% gospel truth...I'd take Yas at his word. His rewrites in The Origin are mostly lame, but if GundamPodcast's writeup on F91 is to be believed, that guy pretty much saved Gundam from being just another mecha show by making Garma survive for five episodes. Wonder whose idea giving Icelina her own episode was, because that also ended up being genius.
>has bitched out over being asked for source before KEKhttps://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23197878
>>23888251>This isn't 2005 anymorepretty sure jordan thing was quite recent, it would be pretty weird if it vanished from the internet so quickly.as for zeta movies, I think it's usual bullshit that stems from anime fans not knowing much about production and thinking of weird artistic decisions as a result of budget constraints rather than something deliberately intended (like that false rumour about final BW episode of Gunbuster). Zeta ANT having old+new footage was not because of budget.
>>238888891st day on the internet?
>>23888945>that guy pretty much saved Gundam from being just another mecha showNot only that, but Yas was a huge part of why Amuro is the protagonist in the first place:>Even before Mr Tomino presented his plan for Gundam, I had a character in mind whom I’d like to try as the protagonist. That character is the Amuro we know today, but in Mr Tomino’s plan, Bright was the protagonist. It was a bit different from the image of the protagonist I had in mind. In fact, a boy named Amuro, who was one of the supporting characters, was the perfect fit for my vision of the protagonist. So, after much discussion, we ended up promoting Amuro from a supporting role to the lead (Animage, July 1979) Outside of the narrative, Yas's and Okawara's painted illustrations were also vital in giving off a mature image of the show and convinced older audiences to give it a chance. There's a reason the trio of Tomino, Yasuhiko and Okawara are always brought up when talking about the success of Gundam.
>>23889002I'm not sure if a story like that would make Amuro more or less like Susumu from Yamato.
>>23889002I wonder if this was during the early phases when it was called various names like freedom fighter, gunvoy etc, there were also more direct inspiration from Starship Troopers with powered suits instead of mechs. Somebody like Bright would have suited as the adult-ish protagonist for that kind of story. If you take the long run of UC from 0079-CCA and then Unicorn-Cucuruz-Hathaway, you could say that Bright eneded up being the main guy overall.
>>23888476I'm actually really good at looking these things up which is why I confidently said you're making it up and didn't actually ask for the source, only pointed out that you've never posted one in your history of making this up. Now you're lashing out because you were caught or just trolling for the sake of it. Next time you want to make something like this up, just claim your uncle works for Sunrise instead.
>>23888979We know you are a Jordan fanboy but the reality is that Jordan was fired. Let it go and move on with your life.
>>23888945>Wonder whose idea giving Icelina her own episode was, because that also ended up being genius.That would be Araki, one of Gundam's four scriptwriters, the others being Matsuzaki, Hoshiyama, and Yamamoto. They actually deserve a lot of credit because they were solely responsible for episodes 7 to 21; Tomino had little involvement in the script-writing process at this time (he didn't even have story structures), so characters like Matilda, Ramba Ral and Hamon were all their doing. Even something like Lalah being Indian was Yamamoto's idea:>You see, when deciding on Lalah, I insisted right from the start that she should be of Indian descent, but Mr. Tomino kept going on about how blondes would be better and so on. I thought, "Ah, this is hopeless," but then Mr. Yasuhiko drew Lalah and, wouldn't you know it, she was Indian after all, so I was really happy (laughs). (Yamamoto Yuu, Roman Album Extra 42, May 1981)
This databook guy is hilarious. Don't you people realize that databooks are meaningless? Director Fukuda said Sunrise staff ignore those books all the time. They write what is suitable for the story. It doesn't matter what an old book says.
>>23889030I had literally never heard of this jordan guy before his name got attached to gundam. Obviously he was removed but not because of Tomino like you claim to without anything to back that up. It's more likely that they were just unsure about him and didn't like his ideas.
>>23889049It does if Yas backports those details into canon, like he did when he depicted the colony drop.
>>23889036Yamamoto might be misremembering cause Yas attributes Lalah's design and background to Tomino.He had influence on many female character designs, vetoed on Matilda having short hair and likely was the person behind Sayla's current design (her original design looked a lot like generic Matsumoto girl from Yamato).
>>23889058Shut up Jordan.
>>23889077There's some early sketches of Lalah by Tomino floating about, and she was already a dothead in those
Holy fuck this thread is fucking trash.
>>23889162>this happened>that's total bullshit actually this happened >actually this happenedthe thread
