https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1cFXLpCEsA
>>23887875Oh yeah someone else make the next episode thread next week, I'm just going to go back to lurking from now on.
This really is Geats 2.0 down to the point that the show gets worse and worse after the final form debut.
>37 episodes before the main and secondary are officially alliesBold choice
What are your likes and dislikes about the 37th episode?
>>23888032Pro: more Baku using capsems outside of henshin.Resolving the NOX brainwashing plot because I thought it was dumb to do this late in the show.Sieg's clown ass still being a clown.Con:Zero is basically only trapped in name only Three seems like he's gonna get beaten within these next 3 episodes so that the last 10 are about the super nightmares.
>>23887875>>23888028>>23888032Conceptually, I really like the idea of a Kamen Rider show where only the lead rider is a hero, and has to team up with evil riders to achieve his goals, either by redeeming them or being forced to do it for the greater good. But what really kills that for this show is how nonchalant they are about the whole thing. Sieg and Zero have their reasons to help the main hero cast, but the way everyone just brushes off their past conflict is frustrating. Nothing gets resolved in a satisfying way in this show; characters just move on from big deals rather easily. Zero isn't as bad due to his connection to Baku, but they still exiled him for multiple episodes just to have him back like it's no big deal.This applies most to Nox. Fujimi and Baku didn't say or do anything in this episode that's any different from the previous times they talked and helped him; he just decided now it's the time for it to happen because the plot demanded it. Nox spends the entire episode brainwashed, and after being saved from it, he's now suddenly cool with teaming up? This isn't some big arc that was built throughout 30+ episodes, where they finally flesh out the relationship between him and the two people who tried to save him the most. He's just good now.We've had villains turn hero in KR before, but when they do, there's characters talking and realizing something about each other. The much-talked-about "heated drama between men". But this wasn't that; they resolved this beef in the most anticlimactic way possible and it kills any satisfaction from the team up. Granted, next episode he gets his final form and there's possibly more character development there, but it seems to be more about him dealing with his inner demons, not his relationship with Baku and Fujimi. It's crazy that Baku and Five had a more intense and personal conversation with a more satisfying resolution than the primary and secondary rider of this show.
>>23888064I feel the Vision arc kinda screwed them over in the long run. Like in theory it's a neat idea that can work but, with how these Sieg and NOX arcs have gone it's pretty clear they were strapped for time and needed to speed through them.
Foolish of me to think the detectives were finally going to do something after so many episodes of being useless, only for their contribution to be just stalling for time until Zero and Zeztz save the day. That's what I get for thinking anyone but 3 characters in this show matter.Also, who's gonna tell Nasuka about Kureha? They better not ghost her.
>>23888064>filenameTime to apologize to this duo.
>>23888085People hating on these two were projecting. They're not the best, but good enough, and far better than what we got right now.
>>23888080The problem with the Vision arc is that our first impressions of the characters were that. Even if you say it didn't really happen, that is what the characters are for the audience. So, for many, Nox is a murderous bastard with no regard for anyone but himself, even though in reality, he didn't kill anyone, as Baku prevented him from that dark path. But then they didn't have him do anything for several episodes, so the first impressions stuck. He barely helped anyone, proved to have many redeeming qualities, or explain himself at all. So how else are we supposed to see him and the Lady but as edgy asshole murderers? They were that for most of their screentime in the show, and the rest of the screentime was useless vagueposting. The show has to tell the audience that he's cool, because the character isn't doing anything to prove his worth.The only thing that he has going is that he hates CODE, but even now they're showing that it's not CODE that is evil, as both Five and Zero are now cool with the gang, it's just Three. So ironically, he spent the whole show hating on CODE just for him to end up teaming up with almost every agent from it (Sieg, Lady, Zero, Baku, and now Five) to save it from a corrupt leader. Maybe they will do some lampshading from this, but I highly doubt it. Doubt they even address how Zero sent him to die, and it's his fault he went dark in the first place. Probably gonna be blamed on Three as well.
>>23887875Where's newest eps link?
>>23888064>This applies most to Nox. Fujimi and Baku didn't say or do anything in this episode that's any different from the previous times they talked and helped him; he just decided now it's the time for it to happen because the plot demanded it. Baku right now is going to attack Code, which is Nox's goal. You're talking like Nox is pulling a 180 and joining Baku for some other goal, when it's just Baku's current goal completely lining up with Nox's.>>23888085>>23888088No, They're still by far the worst, don't be silly.Hotaro's problems start from his basic motivation and attachment to the chemmies being handled very badly and then his actor doesn't help since the shows insists on attempt to make him cheerful and silly when that's clearly not his strength.Rine is fine writing-wise, but is completely killed by an incompetent actress.
>>23888059>Three seems like he's gonna get beaten within these next 3 episodesHe's getting beaten next week.
>>23888139>when it's just Baku's current goal completely lining up with Nox's.Baku has been fighting CODE since the end of the Visions arc, and has talked with him constantly about teaming up to fight them. Nox has refused each time, same with Fujimi trying to help him. They have been alligned with their goals multiple times and he rejected them because he's an emo loser. Now that he got brainwashed, suddenly he's cool with joining them. He could have joined them a good amount of episodes ago, back when Baku saved him from Sieg, but chose to stay with the Lady and didn't help Baku when he got killed by that Nightmare. His actions are not consistent.
>>23888139Houtaro and Rinne as a pair are decent, there's some clear evolution in their relationship, they support each other well enough, and their interactions can be nice sometimes. Which is much more than what can be said about Baku and Nox's practically nonexistent relationship.
>>23888155>Baku has been fighting CODE since the end of the Visions arcBaku had a pretty loose way of "fighting" Cose and was mostly standing around and being reactive, now he wants to go directly to them, which is also what Nox wants.
>>23888166>and was mostly standing around and being reactiveHow is that any different from what Nox was doing? It doesn't change they still had the same goals of taking down CODE for a while. Hell, before these latest episodes Baku hated Zero as much as Nox did, and they could have gone and jumped on him for revenge, but didn't. If the only thing that kept them from working together wasn't similar goals and beliefs but just "let's attack the main base" then that's a very underwhelming reason to finally have these rivals team up. Especially since Baku has gone to CODE in the past.
>>23888182That's kind of why I'm fearing this alliance won't last in spite of the handshake and overall. I don't think Nox will become an enemy, but they easily CAN still make him just walk off and go back to doing his own things after this battle against Code is done.Maybe you're right though and they're actually meant to be big friends now suddenly, and, yeah, that'd be kind of bad, but in a way I'd prefer if they progressed their relationship, while I fear that's not what is really happening.
>>23888085no I still like baku and nox more. as a duo? dunno haven't seen them work together at all yet. but individually I like baku and nox way more
>>23888206I would be more okay with it if this is still just a temporary alliance and they haven't buried the axe, but the way they handled it this episode gave the vibes of it being the finale of their conflict throughout the show. And if so, it's very unearned because he's brainwashed the whole episode.
The twist is gonna be the real Three was killed long ago, and the one we have right now is a Gore Nightmare using his body as a vessel, who is only pretending to be this stone-faced loser. And he's gonna go full Takahashi villain crazy mode, putting his tongue out like in the opening when he reveals himself.And depending how they wanna handle it, Baku kills Three and puts the real human to rest, or saves him while killing the Gore Nightmare. Maybe that's how they justify Three teaming up with the people he's killed in the summer movie.
>>23887883Seriously this belongs in Gavv because it's a cupcake
>>23888243They turned Sieg into an ally, they can turn anyone into an ally, morality is clearly not an important factor to them.
>>23888248It's a vortex, the light and darkness being absorbed into his driver
>>23887883I get the point is that the spinny toy is what all the edged lines point to, but he looks silly.
>>23887875>>23888032The episode had some good parts, but there was just so much stuff dragging it down that it ended up being quite mediocre.I'm glad Zero is finally back with the gang since he's easily one of the best and most useful supporting characters in the show. I got a bit worried when his robot body shut down for a moment but he thankfully got to stay with the heroes.Nem and Minami helping Zero out with the Driver was good too, they hadn't really done much lately in spite of their important roles and backgrounds.The anime shit is still jarring and it has already gotten stale.I fucking knew that the shit with Fujimi at the start wasn't going to be anything serious and that it was going to be some stupid gag instead, like always. It's astounding how the cops have fallen so low that they're even cockblocking each other from being useful now. I like to think that CODE is aware of how utterly useless they are and that's why they don't even bother targeting them despite being part of Baku's group.Well, Fujimi was a bit useful this week since he stalled Nox's attempt to assassinate Baku for a bit but he ultimately couldn't really break the brainwashing and that doesn't really make up for nearly 40 episodes of uselessness on his part, also his speech to Odaka didn't feel very substantial since Code: Somnia made him forget everything he learned and did during the show. Nasuka on the other hand was completely useless this week and was just there for the sake of yet another unfunny gag, and it's ridiculous that she STILL hasn't learned that Kureha's dead.Sieg was actually pretty useful this week, but his scenes are still painfully cringe and his turn into an ally still feels extremely surreal and forced. The only parts I like about those scenes are when they finally force him to fuck off.(1/2)
>>23888517I like that Five has gone back to being a complete bro and that he had a key part in saving the day this week, although his face turn felt kinda abrupt. That thing about a Nightmare killing his dad and Zero taking him under his wing came completely out of nowhere, and the latter part especially felt way too convenient for the plot, him and Zero having a close relationship was never hinted at all, not even when they were both on the same side during the Sieg arc.I felt nothing over Baku and Nox's forced handshake and sudden team up because the latter is such a nothing character. This is supposed to be the lead up to his final form, but he only had 3 fucking lines in the entire episode, and 2 of them were from fucking flashbacks we had already seen before. His brainwashing plot was an unremarkable nothingburger that was handled pretty poorly.The fight scenes this week were actually kinda good, I like that they played around with the toys and had Zeztz use someone else's Capsem. It took them quite a while, but I think Zeztz's action quality is getting more consistent.(2/2)
>>23888521Forgot to mention, I think that Baku getting his old Driver back would've been more impactful (no pun intended) if Impact hadn't gotten a much better highlight fight just a few weeks ago and if Baku didn't get the Exdream gear back literally the next episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7YotFaKDQI don't have anything to say, I'll just leave this here.
>>23888672Most of these characters hate each other's guts so wtf is this photo shoot lol
>>23888761Implication of Baku in front of the CODE logo seems to be that CODE survives the series and he maybe takes it over, or Zero reorganizes it. Anyone who survives the series probably converts to work with new CODE, anyone else probably gets brought back through dreams, like Sieg, and is willing to assist since they've got nothing else to do.
>>23888672>>23888815There’s a chance it’s just something for the movie and is a strange fantasy sequence, like how Gavv’s family didn’t really come help him last year, it was an AU. But still, it’s very fucking weird seeing characters who despise each other just work together. A lot of fans praise the show for being “a lone kamen rider fighting evil from all sides”, but while that is true in paper, the show itself doesn’t take advantage of that at all. Characters just flip flop between allies and enemies on a whim, there’s never any strong character development or relationship that leads to these team ups.
