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What are your pros and cons on the 39th episode?

I CAN FIX ZA REIDI

where tf is mega link?

>>23906972
>Pros
Exdream and Nox both didn't job, which is always a risk with final forms the moment it's not a debut episode. Orderm did something useful. The cops actually did something worthwhile again. The thief plot wasn't a half bad victim of the week plot.
>Cons
Pacing felt uneven due to the thief plot, the Sieg plot, and the Lady/Phantom plot all sharing space. The characters didn't really learn anything useful, so it didn't seem like any progress was made on the mission, emphasized by how Baku gives himself a totally different mission as Orderm. The thief plot wasn't a half good victim of the week plot either, mostly due to the total underreaction to watching someone grow Nightmare parts.

Did the mega anon disappear? I don't want to watch Zeztz in my native language

>>23906998
It has been like this for 3 weeks he's seemingly gone despite the mega not being taken down

>>23906939
>>23906972
Mediocre episode.

The storyline about the thief brothers is pretty whatever and feels like something that would've fit better in the earlier parts of the show because right now it just feels like padding.

I hope Zero goes back to the heroes' base so he can keep interacting with them and doesn't stay at the CODE HQ from now on. The ESL joke was the only somewhat funny one in the whole episode.

After a month-long delay due to Code: Somnia, the Paranormal Division is finally back for real. The cops did some stuff today but they didn't really accomplish anything (even Nem was better in that regard this week) since they just made some obvious observations and the brother who wanted to reform told them to fuck off. And it's been a WHOLE MONTH since Kureha died now but Nasuka still hasn't acknowledged it any way even though the Somnia memory wipe got reversed already.

Sieg returned as a foe but it doesn't actually matter because he's still kind of a joke and they're clearly still trying to redeem him, so Nox's words at the end of the fight ("what a pointless distraction") were very fitting for this whole part of the episode. I don't give a fuck about Sieg's forced ass redemption, Nem saying she wants to believe anyone can have a change of heart and Baku insisting so much that he's not that bad on the inside and that he can atone & repent made me cringe and reminded me that they just fucking killed Three off last week. But who knows, maybe even Three will come back and get redeemed by the end of the show. Anyways, the only halfway decent thing to come out of this is Nem saying she doesn't forgive Sieg (yet).

The Gore Nightmares didn't show up much despite this being their introductory 2-parter as the final villains, which concerns me a little. It also seems like The Lady's just gonna get taken over by Phantom after doing absolutely nothing noteworthy in the second half, which is underwhelming.

>>23907126 cont.
The fights were actually good, we got a good deal of dream-like effects and even a few practical ones. It was also nice to see Orderm come back and accomplish something this time around.

>>23906972
Not a bad episode, but an odd one this late in the game.

Really liked the English joke at the start, although it seemed tonally out of place with the rest of the ep. Also apparently CODE is so understaffed no one else is around to collect Three's remains.

The plot with the former petty thief brothers was pretty compelling. Kind of crazy they'd put all this effort into something that's arguably secondary to the Code: Somnia plot. Crazy to see Ginji bragging out mercing a guy, and to see his second victim bleeding out on the ground (although he was implied to still be alive). Relatively hardcore for Reiwa. Kinnosuke ignoring Ginji's mutation is going to be weirder if it turns out he went to jail to protect him.

It was great seeing the inspectors get their due, even if it largely came at Fujimi's expense again. Fujimi getting shot is becoming a habit as well. Getting graphically wounded in a dream is one thing, but the amount of detail put into him getting grazed this ep was crazy. If it happens again next ep I'm going to start calling him Fuji Cent.

The discussion between Baku and Nem on redemption wasn't entirely bad, but badly timed after last ep. Then again, maybe being turned into your own affidavit is it's own form of atonement.

Sieg being taken out so succinctly by both Nox and Baku. Interesting to see Nox have an easier time with Sieg but could only trap him in an illusion, versus Baku knocking Sieg around but only truly getting the upper hand with Orderm. Nice to see Orderm's specialty coming into play, though it does make Exdream feel a little superfluous here.

Not really sure what to make of Sieg's "redemption" here. On the one hand, it's getting off relatively lightly. On the other, seeing him act like a depressed child was weird, if only because how genuine it seemed when Punisher Gore left, to suddenly seeming like an act when speaking with Baku. Maybe it's just a quirk of Kousei's acting or the way he was directed.

>wondered why Nox's Midnight Shadow finisher turned 3 into paper
>this week it trapped Dawn in a pocket dimension
>mfw it makes them experience losing a Shadow Game like in YGO season 0

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>>23906939
>>23906972
At this point the only way I can still watch the show is by accepting it’s all stupid nonsense and enjoy the fight scenes, because the second I take any of it seriously it falls apart. The old thief brothers who dreamed of stealing a car and the head of police suplexing his subordinates are not the type of shit you put in a serious story. This show’s basically a comedy at this point, you either laugh at the intentional silliness or at the badly done dramatic moments.
Sieg’s redemption is total bullshit, but I’ve become numb to Takahashi’s shtick and can’t be bothered to care anymore. At least I am glad to see them acknowledge he’s a bad person who will never be forgiven, though I fully expect them to say that and still embrace him as a team member. I did find it funny that he got sad at the murderous Nightmare being taken from him, did Baku forget he was a serial killer before the Nightmare? Sure, he mainly targeted criminals, but he was still a mass murdering psycho, and he did it out of a twisted view of the world rather than a desire to protect anyone. He’s as evil as Three, yet the plot wants us to think he can be saved while Three deserves to suffer.
It’s all bullshit but at least we only have 10 episodes left of this nonsense before a real Kamen Rider show debuts.

>>23907253
>not the type of shit you put in a serious story
It's extremely common for Rider shows to still have lots of silly gags at this point in their run when their story was reaching or in endgame or when you think it should be "serious".
This is almost an FMA funnyschizo tier complaint.

>>23907152
>Then again, maybe being turned into your own affidavit is it's own form of atonement.
He was murdered and turned into papers against his will.

Case 39.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH2rC33Jkjw

>>23907152
>Baku knocking Sieg around but only truly getting the upper hand with Orderm
Exdream was wiping the floor with Dawn, Baku only switched to Orderm to separate Sieg from Punish, but he already had the upper hand.

>>23906939
Show is so bad no one discusses it anymore

>>23907612
I'm liking the show but haven't watched the episode yet due to the lack of mega. I'm waiting for the subs to be uploaded to nyaa.

>>23907612
But enough about Gavin Infinity

>>23907612
it feels like a show that would be incredible if they cut it in half we should've gotten to the reset by episode 15-18, and ended by 30-35. But that's pretty much every kamen rider anyway

>>23907677
>But that's pretty much every kamen rider anyway
Not really.

>>23907152
>The discussion between Baku and Nem on redemption wasn't entirely bad, but badly timed after last ep
It's even worse when you realize they also resurrected Sieg and had him join the team right after they offed and cockblocked Kureha from doing so. The way the show handles Sieg is just so bad.

>>23906972
I'm ready for this show to end already. It's just been getting worse and worse

anyone got picks of the sand beast that Baku summoned to attack Kamen Rider Dawn in the fight?

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>>23907692
Funny thing the whole Kureha death stuff likely made it the first time I've seen people outside of here bothered by Takahashi redeeming villains, or even the quick return of comedic moments shortly after the serious plot points.

>>23907612
With how many people theorycraft how the episode's gonna go, get mad over their fictional scenario, get proven wrong and then still get angry that it wasn't what they liked (even if it didn't turn out to play out like their imagined scenario)... Yeah, I don't discuss Zeztz here anymore. It's boring autism. Literally anywhere else is better for Zeztz discussion.

>>23907963
What's a good place to discuss Zeztz? Legitimately asking because last time I tried having a Rider discussion of Gavv outside of 4chan it was somehow worse

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>>23908049
>I tried having a Rider discussion of Gavv outside of 4chan it was somehow worse
How did that happen?

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>>23908063
The conversation somehow got derailed into babble about Sachika not getting to be a Rider for some reason rather than theorising or discussing the actual episode so I just defaulted to coming back here since despite the thread being filled with anons being petty and overflowing stuff there was at least people analyzing and giving opinions
It sucks

>>23907963
You just don't want to admit the show has flaws, almost everyone here is criticizing what's happening in the show, what fucking "fictional scenarios" are people getting mad over?

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>>23908071
>Sachika not getting to be a Rider for some reason
Cause the last few series before Gavv had heroine riders which gave them fuel to beg for a Sachika Rider.

>>23908077
nta but I remember anons making a big deal about Zero being useless based on the episode preview yet went the episode came out he was actually useful.
But iirc that was mostly on the general rather than the actual episode threads.

>>23908081
I guess but that had nothing to do with the episode they just derailed the conversation into that for no reason as if it was something that mattered

>>23907715
Is this model originally from another show? It seems familiar

>>23908083
>yet went the episode came out he was actually useful
And did anyone get mad because of that? No? Yeah, it was the fucking opposite reaction because the show actually did something right for once and it ended up being the highlight of the episode.

>>23908077
nta and I am passively watching zeztz, more active in the other thread, but
>omg why the fuck did nox and baku handshake and team up this late in the show? it's so unrealistic how they are acting as if they're friends and working together now after 37 episodes
>episode 38 drops
>nox is thankful but backs off and wants to settle it on his own
>they do not team up, nox goes at it solo against three
>omg this is so shit why did they fake handshake
off the top of my head without checking the archives directly. yeah (you) guys are consistently wrong every week

does cop lady know her best friend from high school is dead for real this time

>>23908118
No and it's weird how Baku hasn't told her or at least a scene where you see he doesn't want to tell her
Actually now that I think about is Baku even aware the she turned into goo irl and that Five blew up? I don't think he actually is

>>23908117
I think you might be retarded if you can't understand why people had a problem with the handshake and if you really think people were expecting Baku and Nox to literally double team Three together.

>>23908136
>if you really think people were expecting Baku and Nox to literally double team Three together.
>n-no bros I didn't literally expect them to work together after I complained and whined about how they're acting like they're gonna work together in the next episode because they handshook
no I don't see why people have a problem with it especially when half of it is just baku pulling nox up. lmaooo so mentally challenged

>>23908147
Your smooth brain doesn't get it, does it? Regardless of the outcome, it felt unearned and out of character for Nox to do it. Him walking out and going back to his usual business in the next episode just makes people question why did they have him do the handshake in the first place, and the most likely reason is because they just wanted to subvert the audience's expectactions while disregarding whether this gesture made sense or not. And none of this would've happened if they simply had decided to not make them do the forced handshake for the sake of a cheap rug pull.

>>23908147
>how they're acting like they're gonna work together in the next episode because they handshook
>I don't see why people have a problem with it especially when half of it is just baku pulling nox up
The fucking characters in that scene were fully convinced that Nox was going to join them before he rejected them again. It's clear that the show wanted the viewers to believe Nox would finally join the team just to surprise them with that twist.

>double downing when wrong
yeah no one's gonna get an honest discussion here.

>>23908210
>no argument
I accept your concession, hypocritical nigger.

>>23907548
funnyschizoGOD is right thoughbeit, FMA's ""comedy"" was out of place.

>>23908081
>Valkyrie was either useless or a lapdog most of the show
>Sabella was barely there and when she was just a space filler
>Jeanne was the worst part of the show and her subplot ended up dominating the main plot.
>Na-Go was the worst part of the show
>Majade was a plank of wood and they kept coming up with excuses for why she can't transform
>Lord Six did fuck all and died like a bitch

>>23908289
This is why they should just have one rider(the only one that actually rides) and just give him alot of forms.

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>>23908289
I'm in the camp where I want them to just remove female riders completely if they can't write them well. I don't think there has been a single well written female Kamen Rider so far, and despite the fact I wouldn't mind a female Rider (just not as the lead), they've demonstrated time and time again that they can't write one and I'd rather they not even try at this point.

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>>23908511
>>23908413
>>23908289
And My-th is having a female Rider.

>>23908513
If this was the 00s I might be enthusiastic but I really am not anymore

>>23908516
The My-th leaks make it sound it's going to the extreme opposite spectrum of Zeztz in Rider/cast quantity.

>>23908521
If that's the case then I hope they learn how to balance out screentime for their cast because pacing is no simple task when real life events and individual actor / actress ambitions get in the way.

>>23908511
There's a reason why the girls in Sentai were always the least focused on and developed characters. Sure they'd get one or two focus episodes but for the most part their job was to stand around and look pretty/cute. Any time they were more than that the show's quality nosedives. Japan just doesn't know how to write women in general.

>>23908540
>There's a reason why the girls in Sentai were always the least focused on and developed characters
Totally retarded post made by someone who has maybe seen two seasons of Sentai.

>>23907805
I feel they still probably wouldn't care if they were played by unknowns but them being the two returning toku actors (Kureha in particular coming from a very recent and praised show) made everyone regardless of site pay more attention

>>23908513
If the rumor that Arakawa is writing My-Th turns out to be true I want to think it won't be as bad his time, since his track record so far with female characters is either them being legitimately great characters, fetish fuel or both which, all of which are an improvement over what we've gotten so far
My guess is that she will fetish fuel being a bunnygirl and all

>>23908540
Mostly true but there are some that stand out like Mele from Gekiranger, or Himeno from Kingohger. I do struggle to think of any other female sentai who actually have a personality or character outside of cardboard cutout fapbait or fetish character.

>>23908413
They can't, you can tell they really wanted to do this with Zeztz (they only came up with Nox to have a recurring antagonist at the start and episode director Sugihara was basically in charge of creating the character of Sieg when he directed his introductory episodes, and he feels very shoehorned into the show), but they ultimately didn't, probably due to toy sale concerns.

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>>23908540
>Sure they'd get one or two focus episodes but for the most part their job was to stand around and look pretty/cute. Any time they were more than that the show's quality nosedives
>Japan just doesn't know how to write women in general
Way to oust yourself as someone that doesn't watch Sentai nor consumes japanese media at large, why even bother posting like this?

>>23908729
Yuri was the exception to the rule, compare her to, idk, Mei, Ran or Asuna.

>>23908729
TimePink is from 26 years ago and an exception

>>23908540
>what is Sailor Moon
>what is Gunbuster
>flat out lying about Sentai
and that's ignoring recent examples like Akiba Maid War and Princess-Session
just admit you're racist it's far easier to find well written female characters in modern japanese media than modern western media

>>23908731
>>23908732
Anon literally said
>Any time they were more than that the show's quality nosedives
When Donbrothers and King-Ohger weren't that long ago, he hasn't actually watched Sentai

Nothing in this show has setup or payoff. Things just happen.

>>23908511
>I don't think there has been a single well written female Kamen Rider so far
I like Poppy and Nico. They're not groundbreaking but they're fun characters.

>>23908511
The closest to a legitimately good female Rider so far are Malika since she served her purpose well despite not being that interesting of a character and Poppy who's a legitimately great character but not a good Rider since she hardly transforms for no reason pretty much since Takahashi didn't intend her to become a Rider
Since the bunny Rider from My-Th doesn't seem to be the tertiary I expect her to be Malik-tier since even though Arakawa is an excellent writer that has written multiple great female Rangers I don't think he'll put that much focus since My-Th has a fuckload of Riders and will just have them serve their purpose in satisfying way rather than letting them dwindle

It's legitimately surprising that despite female riders not being an inherently bad thing every single one has been kinda shit to the point I also have to agree that they shouldn't bother anymore and just have more female kaijin instead to make use for the suit actresses

>>23908734
Even Mira somewhat, though not as much as the girls from King-Ohger and Donbrothers. Sumino would probably have gotten a lot more focus too weren't it for the Imamori scandals. Sentai's been pretty egalitarian in its final years.

>>23908781
>Sumino would probably have gotten a lot more focus too weren't it for the Imamori scandals.
Nah, the summary for the "cut" episode made it sound like it was her last focus episode and only the two last episodes were shot without her original actress from the start. She was never getting shit.

>>23908804
She was getting said episode and another one where she was going to get betrayed by Ribbon, she also probably would have gotten more scenes for her duel episode against Kinjiro. Still that wouldn't have changed the fact that Ryugi and Kumade would have been the most shafted and that Rikuo and Hoeru would have still been the only rangers with any proper focus.

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It only just occurred to me that Lango Stomach was the kid with the laptop in Battle Royale.

>>23908924
Wrong thread.

>>23908740
just a dream, bro

>>23908807
>and another one where she was going to get betrayed by Ribbon,
Was that confirmed to be a standalone episode somewhere? I assume it was always going to happen like we got it in the end, especially since it tied directly into the plot with Rikuo. It didn't seem like there was any other scrapped episode, considering the lack of similar split up scenes to what we got due to what happened to the OG ep38.