>comparing anything to gundam
You are gonna have a bad time.

>>23909751
Assuming you mean globally?
Because it's mainly a visual novel and westerners don't read that much.
It also didn't start getting anime until like 2012, way after the mecha anime wave in the west already came and went.

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>>23909751
>Why did Muv-Luv never catch on like Gundam?
An ugly main mecha

>>23909751
CHOMP

>>23909751
Haremslop.

>>23909756
>and westerners don't read that much.
I wouldn't use reading visual novels as some kind of flex of literacy.

>>23909844
Slow down, Anon, not every post on the Internet is written contentiously. The other Anon's not flexing, and what they're saying is true: westerners don't really read much, be it LNs or novels or VNs or whatever you like; and VNs have never really escaped their place as a niche within the weeb niche (other than the DDLC flash-in-the-pan that hasn't seemed to give the genre much momentum)
Given that young people now utterly despise reading, it doesn't seem likely to get better, either, but the biggest problem was that mubrub had a barrier to entry that a lot of westerners also can't stand (i.e., HIGH SCHOOL ROMCOM WITH SLICE OF LIFE ELEMENTS I'M LOSING MY FUCKING MIND AIIEEEEE)

>>23909751
The Extra anime was greenlit sometime in the early 2000s until a producer pulled out or something, age ended up wasting a lot of money on TE because of issues (thanks, Miyata Sou) and it ended up being kind of shit because of it, SM sucked, and don't even get me started on what has happened since. All despite the popularity of KGNE and the trilogy.

Isn't its main selling point the hentai and not the mecha?

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>>23910227
retard

>>23910227
And Jesus told them the Truth, and they hated him for it

>>23909751
>make super popular interesting setting everyone wants to see more of
>don't make more of it
>make side stories taking place in the past or in alternate realities
>don't even fucking finish the side stories, even Total Eclipse was incomplete because it was supposed to have multiple routes in different media (anime was supposed to be Yui route) but only the Cryska route was finished. TDA just left to rot
>then sit on your ass doing literally nothing for 10 years
>do a shitty anime that alienates the existing fanbase by recasting all the characters and changing their designs, and rant and yell at the old fanbase saying they're too stupid to understand that it's necessary to get new fans
>don't get new fans because your shitty new anime is locked to a niche streaming service nobody subscribes to

gee i wonder why that franchise died

>>23910866
TE is concurrent with MLA thoughever

Gundam was for ages 3+ hence the parade colour mechs.

Muv-Luv was an 18+ game to begin with so the target audience for the mechs was also 18+, hence more monochrome colour schemes and less gimmicky, only relaying on standardised armaments.

At least this was how I saw it 10+ years ago when Muv Luv was at its peak with the Total Eclipse Novel being out on PS3.

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>like Gundam

Gundam is THE ONE AND ONLY popular enough franchise that normal know about because, like transformers, a giant toy company sells millions in merch along side making TV shows and movies.

It is not like Gundam ,or Transformers, because there is no multi billion yen company behind it, and it's from a PC game. An eroge PC game.

Only perverts play PC games.

I mean do Americans even fucking thing before making these threads?

>>23909751
Because the TSFs are hidden behind like 30 hours of reading.

>>23910864
There isn't nearly enough beta experimentation scenes in the game for it to be about the porn.

>>23909751
I could write a 200 page document on this shit but the TL;DR is simply shit management decisions and people being in positions they shouldn't have. For almost 30 years now.

Long before ML was even a thing they already had a funding member ragequit due to being overworked. Making MLA was completely fucking wreckless and Kouki sold his Tokyo home of 3 generations to help fund it. They instantly got high on their own farts and greenlit a trillion spinoffs and even started a whole sister company that made like 3 games before going bye-bye. They sold the company to Avex because they promised to make an MLA anime and then never even finished it. They had 5 fucking gacha games in the spawn of decade because they want to be FGO but Kouki can't be fucked actually being involved with any of them besides 1 time collabs. I hate to bring up Kouki again because I sound like a schizo at this point, but his addiction to social media arguments DIRECTLY resoluted in a 20 year old retard getting hired and costing the company millions of dollars + putting all their visual novels into development hell

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>>23911601
What the everliving fuck. This is comical.

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>>23911601
>his addiction to social media arguments DIRECTLY resoluted in a 20 year old retard getting hired and costing the company millions of dollars + putting all their visual novels into development hell

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>>23909751
Bad administration, Cancelled Extra anime, too late not so good Alternative anime, not a real good, accesible entry point.
>>23911673
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23757037/#23804459

>>23910227
but enough of EVA!

>>23909751
>Visual novel
>You have to get through infodump-hell and highschool harem bs just to get to the mechs, most of which are ugly
>Little to no advertising outside of japan

>>23911877
>extra
>>highschool harem
retarded
>>infodump-hell
nigga, the infodump comes from Alternative, when you already got to see the mech (unlimited and early alternative).

>>23911673
He got into an argument with a twitter user about if their dead gacha game was shit or not and handed him an invite to their IRL livestream event
The guy actually showed up with a unity demo for a new game he coded and because his parents are rich he got employed.
The game he made shut down in 8 hours(yes, hours) and the entire company shifted to redeveloping it from the ground up without him causing every visual novel to be put on hold.
then the redeveloped version still shut down after a year because it was still bad. The CEO got fired.

>>23911525
this, the only real comparison with Muv luv is, for better or worse, Fate: Stay / night, and Muv luv didnt get a anime adaptation until 2019.

>>23910227
The porn is so fucking awful to the point I just skip past it.

>>23911924
you could just play the all ages / steam / consoles version lmao

>>23911930
Yeah but is total eclipse on there?

>>23911941
total eclipse doesnt have H-scene, but yeah isnt on switch.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/787510/MuvLuv_Alternative_Total_Eclipse_Remastered/

>>23911871
>During the pre-reg campaign for the game he then started tweeting images of horse meat using Umamusume hashtags which pissed off that fanbase massively and caused another public apology.

After the game insta-exploded he delivered another apology alongside Tororo, which also featured Tororo talking about how he will control Kitakuous social media usage so he doesn't cause more incidents. Kitakuou was never heard from ever again and was not part of the Dimensions dev team. Also, all development on the visual novels was halted during the development of Dimensions and never really restarted because all those projects are now weird videogame hybrids (also Anchor is bankrupt).

>All of this is real and actually happened.

Fucking amazing

>>23909757
A basic bitch as the protagonist.