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https://twitter.com/ActorKenta879/status/2068499689113346128"Brotherly love. Maybe his little brother’s spirit was watching over him."
SHT after the end of Gavan Infinity.
>>23915218Imagine if the kaijus are moving jpeg like the chemy again
>>23915204>red right with eye on shoulder, and black left>ass cape>calligraphy brushes on handsWhy is Another Saber invading Zeztz?
>>23915204The voice of Oblivion Gore.
>>23915223Saber is this general worst nightmare
>>23915226that's revice
>>23915222I just want to hope something will be good instead of just thinking it'll be bad for once.
The return of Catastrom.
>>23915232Do you honestly think Toei has the budget for that?
>>23915235Can this Nox guy just be normal and stop being a little bitch betrayer please
>>23915237Blame Takahashi for being a flip-flop who can't maintain a plot twist for longer than 2 episodes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n0wcq7KZcEpisode 41 preview.
>>23915235ODAKA
These are the final antagonists of Kamen Rider Zeztz. Say anything about them.
>>23915204>>23915264There are 5 gore nightmare, prepare for the real final gore backstabbing the current lineup.
I'm already tired of Takahashi by Geats but dear god the fact that Takahashi is likely for Reiwa 10th.......
>>23915266They're trying to see how far they can drag Kamen Rider down before it dies like Sentai
>>23915218gee Zeztz, how they let you have three SHT pairings?
>>23915204the real final boss
>>23915277Wouldn't this be the norm moving forward?
>>23915266>>23915267Post hands
>>23915288Are you really gonna die on this hill? Zeztz doesn't deserve it
>>23915296Okay but post hand
>>23915288????
>>23915305Takahashifags are insecure and think normal people who don't like his slop are shitskins
>>23915288For you, Takahashicuck
Y'all got some ugly ass hands here.
>>23915282We don't know yet if Omegahorn is half year too or not.
>>23915339It will be, trust me
>>23915341honestly yeah, doubt they'll keep Infinity cast for one and a half year
>>23915313Holy fuck a white cuck.
>>23915266I think Takahashi handles crossover characters from other writers well (Heisei Generation, Heisei Generation Final (cowritten wtih Muto, but Takahashi is listed as the main writer), Geats x Revice with Ryuki, clone Evolt in Outsiders - note he only wrote ep0 and the final 3 episodes).There are way worse options like Mouri, who can't handle gray characters at all.
>>23915349Infinity's toyline is confirmed to be getting push beyond one year, so I'd say that part is confirmed. It's just we don't know if it means Infinity x the show after Omegahorn too, or if it's just because Omegahorn will last one year.
>>23915204Why are they doing Another Saber in ZeztzLike come on let's be real, no one is looking at that and seeing anything else...
>>23915222The 2 main ones already have suitsIt'll most likely be>Omega are live action>S are CGI>A are PNGs
>>23915457>Another Saber in ZeztzWhat do you mean by that?
I wonder if we are getting a rider as a final boss.
Today is Father's day. Who are your favorite and least favorite father characters in Rider?
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2068710572594766325"We heard today is Father’s Day… and also World Motorcycle Day.Honestly, we could only think of one person who fits this day perfectlyJust a witty joke!Happy Father’s Day & Happy World Motorcycle Day!"
>>23915465Oblivion Gore Nightmare looks like Another Saber
Yo!
>>23915502He's just chilling, enjoying the bad dreams~
With 40 episodes of Zeztz, what do you consider to be the strengths and weaknesses of Yanaka as a producer?
>>23915510I fucking KNEW they'd bring back Nemurin!
>>23915510I don't know enough about how a producer influences a show, so unlike other anons here I won't answer out of my ass
I want the final arc of Zeztz to feature a full moon
>>23915204This thing genuinely looks like they made another saber as a suit for something, scrapped the idea, and then pulled the suit out to use for this.
>>23915526Another Zero-One, Saber and Geats now stand at the ready for Zi-O's wankery in Reiwa 10.
>>23915526I thought it was just people mentioning the colors, but it even has the "line" through the eyes that Another Riders had. I guess it lacks the human-like mouth and eye under eye though. there is a second set of eyes, but it's more like standard Rider eyes.
>>23915530>the ready for Zi-O's wankery in Reiwa 10.Grand Zi-O 30 (20 Heisei Riders+10 Reiwa Riders) for Reiwa 10.
>>23915457>>23915501youre a fucking idiot
>>23915531It still could be. It fits the design philosophy of being based on the opposite or corrupted traits of the original, eyes read books, hands hold swords
>>23915555The head could be following the same philosophy as Another W, where the split is horizontal instead of vertical
>>23915510We don't know enough about Zeztz's production to say surely, but so far I'd say he's a decent producer. Aside from wanting Zeztz to look like Ichigo I pretty much agree with every choice he made and feel it's more of a matter of Takahashi being stubborn to change his style but at the same time I feel Yanaka should have either been more forceful or more flexible with him since producers like Omori and Tsukada would understand a writer's weaknesses and strenghts and play on them.I don't know if stuff like Nox's actor not knowing how to portray the character or stuff like the action in Zeztz being weaker is an issue of his structure where he divide the usual producer's roles among his vice producers.Ultimately I feel his style would work far better with a drama writer, which is what I think he would have done had it not been for this whole "first Rider show in the west" situation which was the whole reason he hired Takahashi in the first place, also why he went with an Ichigo homage and a vague motif.
>>23915483>FavoriteOtoya>Least favoriteEither Shadow Moon's dad or Kasuragi's dad
Man I just have no motivation to stick with Zeztz but I feel like I'm too far in to quit.
>>23915566I get that feeling, while I don't feel that way about Zeztz same thing happened with Gotchard and Revice for meI think Ryusoulger is the only time I managed to drop a toku I didn't like early on enough so that my autism doesn't kick in
>>23915519A producer is the one in charge of coming up with the premise, hiring the pilot director, hiring the head writer, serving as editor for the whole show and has the final say about everythingHow involved they are is a case by case basis since if they want to they can be more hands-on with the projects or leave his roles to other people to handle
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10810265158
>>23915606>when the drip is your own blood
>>23915537It's gonna happen.
>>23915566This is exactly how I feel about being alive.
>>23915205Ironic that you say this when all the Zeztzfags started popping up during SEA hours.
>>23915510>thought he could get away with a gimmickless show until he realized that would mean the show would sell like shit, led to a halfassed toyline with a bunch of lame toys>wanted Zeztz to have "simple" form changes like Kuuga's, in his mind that meant lame repaints instead of forms that changed the silhouette like Kuuga's>sabotaged the local success of his own show by picking a concept that was too abstract and forcing the first half to be episodic despite that not being Takahashi's forte>wanted to do a story about a lone hero and went about it in the worst way possible, making almost every character in the show fucking useless to prop up the hypercompetent nigh-Mary Sue protagonist>thought he could get away with just having Monsters of the Week as villains for the entire first half, realized how dumb that was, and shoehorned a halfassed recurring villain in Nox>didn't tell Nox's actor what the deal with the character was, forcing him to gradually discover it through the scripts that he got handed and screwing up his earlier performances, which made Nox look less sympathetic than he should've been>the toyline needed a Tertiary Rider, so he shoehorned another character into the show, and also halfassed it by leaving its creation up to Sugihara>we don't know what else he fucked up since the show isn't overHe's a legitimately bad producer, for Toku at least.
>>23915502Kys, spammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtHv1kLPOm0Case 40.
>>23915655Aside from the first two I feel like the ideas would have worked if not for Takahashi, but then again he was the one who hired Takahashi in the first place because of the third point, since Takahashi was the one who came up with the abstract setting so he picked him
>>23915664>Just a witty joke>Actually an attempt to bond with his son by doing something fathers typically do with their young children.Witty Joke.....
Why do executives do spin-off shows and reboots while normal producers handle mainline shows? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>23915690Because the executives rarely have enough time to spare on a mainline year-long shows, they have more responsibilities than the average producer. Like, Shirakura has to oversee the franchise as a whole.
>>23915695So Kiramager to Donbrothers was exception where they were able to open up their schedules enough?
>>23915690Because sequels exist purely to make money, and that's what executives are paid to do: make money. They don't get paid to be creative.
>>23915698But sequels are more risk-adverse so you'd think they'd let the newbies do them as training while executives make mainline shows
>>23915702Exactly. They are more risk-adverse and less creative. Let the newbies make something new that might fail that they can throw under the bus once it does.
>>23915697Sentai was in a critical condition so they needed to step up to try and save it.
I'm on episode 20 or so of Blade (my first Kamen Rider) and I'm starting to get pissed at the way new plot points are introduced.>Tachibana has a colleague who was meant to be Garren that was never mentioned up to this point>Kotaro lets some random girl on the BOARD PC who hacks it to disable the radar for like all of 3 minutesDoes it get any better? And are the other modern series like this?
>>23915716>Does it get any betterYeah Blade's second half is considered to be significantly better than the first, they changed head writers and the second half is made by the guy that wrote the 1st adaptation of Fullmetal Alchemist>Are modern series like thisThere isn't any show that's quite like Blade since the writer of the first half never returned to toku and Blade's producer just kept making Sentai insteadBut I'd say 555, Kiva and Zi-O have stuff similar to your complaints
>>23915726Great to hear, thanks anon.
>>23915726>Fullmetal AlchemistI never finished this show and I feel bad because everyone loves it.
Le bad dreams girl.
>>23915835Her swordfish abilities have nothing to do about dreamsWhy are you here?
>>23915847She looks like female Sieg, and that takes me me back to when people were speculating about Dawn being female before it was revealed to be Touchybannerson all along.
>>23915848>She looks like female SiegAre you OK anon? Sieg didn't make the color purple nor swords with scales>>23915848>speculating about Dawn being femaleThat was outside of 4chan I assume because no one here was dumb enough to think the design belonged to a girl, even the TV-kun magazine stated it was a new character so everyone just assumed it was a new guy
>>23915855>That was outside of 4chan I assume because no one here was dumb enough to think the design belonged to a girl, even the TV-kun magazine stated it was a new character so everyone just assumed it was a new guyThat happened before the first photo of the suit got leaked, back when all we had was a rough of sketch of the helmet, Color was teasing that Rita's actress would enter the show as the potential Tertiary Rider (turned out to be Lord Six instead) and TokuCollectibles' description for the Breakam Dawn referred to the user as a female.
>>23915916>Color was teasing that Rita's actress would enter the show as the potential Tertiary RiderYeah and he retracted his statement saying he was wrong and that she was actually a Lord, then proceeded to say the tertiary is something new entirely
>>23915921>Yeah and he retracted his statement saying he was wrong and that she was actually a Lord, then proceeded to say the tertiary is something new entirelyYes, but that didn't happen immediately and was followed by the toy descriptions from Toku Collectibles after the listings got leaked.
alright I'll goon to you nasuka-chan
Nox must be one of the worst secondaries in the entire franchise
>>23915966Hey, that depends on your definition, Kusaka exists.
>>23915980Kusaka is entertaining. He's a dick but he's a glorious dick. Hence the holiday dedicated to him.
>>23915966Not the number 1 worst secondary in the entire franchise?
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2068846432539341179The Nem-chan cover.
>>23916021Ixa exists. Literally everyone prefers Otoya over Nago
https://twitter.com/makiyamayusuke/status/2068603512481820694MagiYellow, Baron, Zangetsu, and Gills.
>>23916031Nago's far better than Nox.
>>23915966It's definitely one of the worst and I'm saying that as someone who likes ZeztzThe only ones that come to mind as to being worse are Daiji from Revice and Rinne from Gotchard, although the latter is mostly due to the actress, writing-wise she's better than NoxI'm debating whether Nox is worse than Ibuki or not, Nox is more interesting than Ibuki but at the same time I don't Ibuki pissed me off as much as Nox has aside from the final stretch of Hibiki
HOLY SHIT LIZEL FUCKING KILLED FUJIMI-SAN
>>23916019I enjoy watching him, doesn't mean he's not a bad secondary.
>>23916060He narrowly avoids death a few minutes later.It's kinda sad that this is the closest we have to a Gavv/Zeztz crossover but then again the movie wars were underperforming.
>>23916060You see that he lives later.
>>23915980nta but for me it's by how entertaining a secondary is, like for example Kusaka, Nago and Kumon aren't good "secondary riders" but they're really entertaining. Ultimately Kamen Rider is a piece of entertainment I feel like that's the quality that matter most rather than how good of an ally/partner the secondary is.
>>23916060>>23916064>>23916065oh right nvm
Speaking of secondary Riders I'm on a Hibiki rewatch and Ibuki has got to be the nicest secondary especially in terms of interacting with the main Rider. Even G3 had moments of jealousy against Soichi and they initially fought early on.
>>23916088Yeah I was going to argue Ichijo and Nitou but even disregarding how Ichijo isn't a rider I think Ibuki was even less antagonistic than those two
>>23916091Nitou is one of the nicest too, the only thing that outs him slightly below Ibuki is that he proudly claims he's Haruto's rival. But Ibuki and Hibiki are generally co-workers who get along so it's pretty refreshing, especially since their predecessors are coworkers but then they're Blade and Garren.
>>23916063He just hated the Orphenocs that were terrorizing him. He still fought alongside Takumi.
>>23916028
>>23916088Shouichi and Hikawa are one of the funniest duo.
>>23915312Of course it's a fucking SEA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m46ZFNhvt4YZeztz's toy CMs.
>>23915204Do you think My-Th is part of the global expansion plan by Toei's president like Zeztz or is the Chinese theme just coincidental?
>>23916249My-th is obviously going to be another simulcast, plus they've been focusing more on chinese simulcasting since Gavv.
>>23916063Secondaries aren't sidekicks, they're just the Rider with the second highest billing in the show. Judging the quality of a Secondary by how buddy-buddy they are with the Main instead of how well written and utilized they are as characters is retarded.
>>23916271They also don't spend half the series trying to hurt and kill the main rider. They only do that for an arc or two.
>>23916286There's no written rules about Secondaries, they can be villains too, what matters is how well they're handled.
>>23916286Lol. There was also another secondary that was the final boss.
The secondary Rider who battles the final boss during the last episode instead of the main character doing it.
>>23916291But that's 2/27 mainline modern series, minus Kuuga.>>23916298Are you retarded? Read the comment chain.
>>23916304I know what I said, fucking watch Faiz.
MY-TH Henshin Belt’s set price.As much as a DemonsDriver.
>>23916315The fuck, is the belt that complex?Won't this harm sales? The current economy is fucked
>>23916325I think it’s the big bundle one, with eggs for RI-DO and the form changes as well
>>23916327Ah OK then, I was scared for a moment
>>23915204>the NPC lurking in the background
https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/2068891731538452706"Just about 1 month until the release."
>>23916360>I've been working with Takahashi-sensei on the writing for this scene. I think you're going to like it.>It says I have to wrap my legs around your neck... and the scene goes on for ten minutes?
https://twitter.com/TokuSatoOficial/status/2068076604887306545
>>23916210Of course Takahashicuck is an Ameritard
>>23916271>they're just the Rider with the second highest billing in the showUmmmmm Hajime is billed second and then Tachibana after yessssss Chalice is secondary again!!!!!
When can we expect a toy listing for My-Th?
>>23916210>>23916371Samefag
>>23916060>>23916064>We will never have a scene where post-series Lizel apologizes to Fujimi and he doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.
i cry like a bitch everytime i rewatch this scene
>>23916441The Kill la Kill writer knows how to do emotional scenes.
>>23915235Didn't you guys say he stopped being a backstabbing faggot?
They should've been an item in zezty
>>23916493The nightmares are blowing up CODE and Zeztz wants to save them, while Nox wants them to go to hell anyway.
>>23916315NTA but in case anyone curious about the source, it's from Japan Toy Awards 2026 list
Remember lemon hint for the animal zodiac? >https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23900041/#23901784The answer was this>Mouse, >Cat, >Frog, >Orca, >Rabbit, >Turtle, >Dragon, >Qilin, >Snake, >Mongoose, >Horse, >Deer, >Sheep, >Wolf, >Monkey, >Crab, >Chicken, >Fish, >Dog, >Eagle, >Pig, >Butterfly
>>23916613Wow it really is Arakawa's Geats 2.
>>23916613>>Frog, >>Orca,But there's no frog in the zodiac?
>>23916613so not all of the zodiac animals? also where tf is the newest design leak why is lemon that lazy?
>>23916619>also where tf is the newest design leak why is lemon that lazy?He don't want others to steal his leak, especially reuploaders on bilibili
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5312731155537050Zeztz.
>>23916619>so not all of the zodiac animals?That makes sense since the remaining 2 could be left for the remaining quarters, I'm surprised that 10 of them are already seemingly happening on Q1The odd ones are the frog and owl, what is up with that?
>>23916209Inoue is at his best when doing comedy, after all
>>23916209>>23916088>>23916635Shoichi beating Hikawa in tennis with a frying pan as a racket iirc was ultimate comedy.
>>23916635He really is. Donbrothers and Changerion are hilarious.
>>23915211Can’t come soon enough
>>23915387Heavily disagree. But even if he did them well, him having a bias to his own series is a huge red flag for an anniversary director. Don’t be too surprised when Ex-Aid, Zero-One, Geats and Zeztz get multi episode arcs with plot relevance while every other series get the bare minimum.I would like to believe even producers could see that, but if not, I hope the underwhelming performance of this compared to his previous work gives them a hint that he’s not the golden goose they thought he was.
>>23916613Are there even gonna be kaijin in this show or just rider vs rider
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2062942566530879904"Guess the Rider with Emoji"
>>23916766Revice
>>23915966He's the worst, he went from terrible to just being there and was never a good or entertaining character at any point. His relationships with the other characters are all shallow and barely developed, and the actor didn't know what the fuck he was saying half the time and couldn't perform the role right for a while despite being really experienced because the show's producer is a retard who didn't inform him about key details of the character beforehand.
>>23915966Takahashi wanted Keiwa and Hiiro to look better in comparison.
>>23916765There's always at least a few kaijin
>>23915980>>23916069This is why I hate Zeztz fans defending the terrible rider trio by saying Faiz had an even messier one. In Faiz the characters actually had a relationship with one another, an entertaining dynamic. Them not getting along was irrelevant because their interactions made for good episodes. Comparatively in Zeztz there is no interesting relationship or dynamic between the riders. Baku is a villain glazer just because he’s a good boy, Nox is a brute asshole to everyone equally and Sieg doesn’t give a shit about anyone. So you have 3 riders with no actual relationship or dynamic who don’t get along or grow in 40+ episodes in any meaningful way, yet we are supposed to like it just because it’s “chaotic”.Kusaka also stopped trying to kill Takumi way faster than Nox ever did. He never got along with him, but after a while they both prioritized their enemies over each other when things escalated, so I’d even argue his schizo ass was more reasonable than Nox, who is fighting the guy simping for his redemption in the endgame arc. The less said about Sieg the better, dude is exactly as bad as Asakura from Ryuki yet treated with way more kindness than someone like him deserves. They just cover it with “comedy” to save face.
>>23916031>Literally everyone prefers Otoya over Nagono they don't. Most people haven't watched Kiva.
>>23916811Out of curiosity, is Sieg your personal worst tertiary Rider?
>>23916761>Heavily disagree. Who has shown better handling of characters from multiple seasons in your opinion?I guess Hiroki Uchida is decent too, but he couldn't get one big memorable moment out of his crossovers. And he's also responsible for Outsiders' scripts that you seem to regard as heavily biased.>But even if he did them well, him having a bias to his own series is a huge red flag for an anniversary director.Script writer, not director. Or even producer. Like I said, for Outsiders he only wrote episodes 0 and the final 3.Hiroki Uchida wrote episodes 1 and 2, Daiki Nagahama wrote episodes 3 and 4. The one you'd actually blame for the focus issues on the show is a producer like Ohmori.>Don’t be too surprised when Ex-Aid, Zero-One, Geats and Zeztz get multi episode arcs with plot relevance while every other series get the bare minimum.I think multiple shows having actual plot relevancy would be a huge step up from what we've gotten so far. Only one of Shirakura's children, Decade was relevant in Zi-O. And that was after he was completely irrelevant in the Movie Wars series that united the Phase 2 Heisei Riders, never previously returning after 2010.
>>23916811>The less said about Sieg the better, dude is exactly as bad as Asakura from Ryuki yet treated with way more kindness than someone like him deserves.No way. Asakura also was treated with kid gloves', with the Riders' casually talking with him in several scenes and generally just letting him get away/rampage several times and never doing anything to really stop him.
>>23916820NTA but Sieg being mostly just par for the course on Zeztz' being dull probably can't be worse than someone like Sakura who actively dragged down her series.
>>23916826yea but we got this scene
>>23916826Granted he was also allowed to get away with too much shit, but that was more the writers needing him as a villain than defending his life. Outside of the two-part arc where he had a brother, everyone but Shinji agreed he was a monster, and after a while Shinji stopped defending him and just looked at him with no comment. In Zeztz everyone of the heroes is okay with Sieg hanging out, and 2 of the main heroes say that even he can change, when he has shown 0 redeeming qualities whatsoever. One is a villain that needs to live for conflict while another is a murderer thats actively defended by the heroes. I don’t like how they handled either character, but Sieg’s is embarrassingly worse.>>23916820I don’t know because there’s been some stinker tertiaries, but he’s easily the worst in all Reiwa and all 3 make one of the worst rider trios in history. I don’t want to say the absolute worst just yet, but it’s close.
>>23916822>I think multiple shows having actual plot relevancy would be a huge step up from what we've gotten so farNot if they’re exclusively shows written by the same guy. At that point it’s just a guy stroking himself at the expense of others, and for an anniversary it should be equal treatment for all. I have issues with Zi-O and Decade, but I’ve never felt they loved one rider show more than the other. Takahashi by the very nature of being head honcho on multiple shows of the past era would be biased to his work. So better hire someone new.
>>23916291>There's no written rules about Secondaries, they can be villains toonot written but unwritten. Secondary Riders are the MC's right hand man and end up being mostly friendly towards them. for situations like Gotchard where Spanner was the secondary in the toyline, Rinne was the closet to Houtaro. even Takahashi who hates secondary riders follows the "rule" for example Fuwa never betrayed Aruto and was always on his side or Keiwa snapping his fingers like Ace did.Kusaka is an outlier but they have tried to bend over backwards to make him and Takumi friends like the awful Zi-O tribute.
>>23916826>Asakura also was treated with kid gloves', with the Riders' casually talking with him in several scenes and generally just letting him get away/rampage several times and never doing anything to really stop him.Ren wanted to kill him, Tojo wanted to kill him, Kitaoka wanted to put him back in jail but was completely fine with letting him die. Shinji was the only one stupid enough to be tricked into thinking he might be a decent person only to be proven wrong repeatedly, and he ended the show feeling like he was a complete failure for letting so many people die.
>>23916836>Not if they’re exclusively shows written by the same guy. At that point it’s just a guy stroking himself at the expense of others, and for an anniversary it should be equal treatment for all.Outsiders tied Zero-One/Ex-Aid to the plot more closely, but, like it's not like it was shitting on the other series. Garren, Zeronos and Brain were recurring characters and everyone returned for the finale and defeated the Outsiders' OC villains. Compare with Zi-O where every single past hero is powerless before Zi-O's OCs, aside from Decade and Diend.>So better hire someone new.That makes no sense. You can't bring someone who has no experience with ANY of the characters to suddenly take it all.>I have issues with Zi-O and Decade, but I’ve never felt they loved one rider show more than the other. You're kidding, right? In Zi-O, Decade and Diend are the only returning Riders who are returning characters. Ryuki got a tie-in mini-series. Den-O got a big moment in Heisei Gen Forever and was tied to the final power up arc (although the writing completely failed to take advantage of this).I guess Decade was more balanced, especially with Onodera being the only recurring Rider and pretty much doing nothing after his arc though. But, like, this isn't a good thing.
>>23916844They say that, but aside from Tojo they all just let him walk away several times. And talk with him calmly in other scenes rather than trying to finish him off.
>>23916843>not written but unwrittenNo, you just have autism.
>>23916845>returning characters"recurring characters", not "returning".
>>23916847>watching and paying attention to what happens in the show means I have autismWhy bother having discussions in this general? you're all fucking idiots.
>>23916845Turning Garren and Zeronos into villains, even if just temporarily, was not very respectful on my eyes. Also, the previous anniversary riders playing a part in the other anniversary season makes perfect sense. It’s not saying Decade is a better show than the rest, just connecting two shows that are inherently tied to one another.
>>23916849>>23916851Why'd you delete your image?Was it because you were a Sachikafag who got BTFO?
>>23916856>you were a Sachikafag who got BTFO?take your meds
>>23916857Same filename nigger. Same image dimensions and filesize. And the image still exists in the archives lmaohttps://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23915204/#23916849You're the only schizo here.
>>23916859take your meds
>>23916846Asakura was protected by the plot, he always found a way to run away before getting killed. Ren was about to kill him during Knight Survive's debut but a Mirror Monster jumped in and Asakura took advantage of the distraction to run away. Or when Ren and Kitaoka tried to get his hungry Contract Monsters to turn on him but Shinji cockblocked the attempt and allowed them to feed on the energy of the Mirrors Monsters they had just destroyed.But Sakura got what he deserved at the end when he was denied the chance to kill Kitaoka with his own hands and then got gunned down by the police.
>>23916811Why did you quote the second post when it had nothing to do with Zeztz?
>>23916861I'm sorry about your skin color.
Did they ever say why Revice kept moving away from horror the more the show went on?
>>23916851You have autism because you can't comprehend that each show is different and does their own thing. Nox doesn't suck because he's not an ally of the MC, he sucks because he's poorly written. A villainous Secondary could totally work if it was a well written foil and rival to the MC. Baron was the fucking final boss of Gaim after all.
>>23916869>kept moving away from horror the more the show went on?The latter parts were more horror-esque than Q1.
>>23916876Am I just misremembering? I've only watched the show once as it was airing but iirc the last time the show was horror focused was when Orteca got sacrificed at the end of Q2
>>23916855>Turning Garren and Zeronos into villains, even if just temporarily, was not very respectful on my eyes.Garren being dupped into working for the villains is kind of his thing already. I thought that was a neat way to play into his character.Zeronos was cheap brainwashing plot device though, yeah. Not really a highlight at all.
>>23916880There was that whole part in q3 with the demons everywhere and people hiding in refuges. That was definitely the darkest part of the show, although it gets lighter in the actual final arc after Akaishi is defeated.
>>23916845>Garren, Zeronos and Brain were recurring characters and everyone returned for the finale and defeated the Outsiders' OC villains. Compare with Zi-O where every single past hero is powerless before Zi-O's OCs, aside from Decade and DiendYou now remember that they regressed Tachibana's character by making him an asshole again and had Nico of all people as his right hand woman, Yuuto spent most of the series as the new Zero-One Rider instead of Zeronos, and Brain was turned into a Humagear powered by Gashats.
>>23916888Thanks for clarifying
>>23916820He's female Tertiary tier at the very least.
>>23916872>because you can't comprehend that each show is different If every show was different, we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with. You would know that if you actually watched the shows instead of shitposting on /krg/. If we have 26 secondary riders and all but one have something in common with each other then it's a rule. >if it was a well written foil your point is retarded and completely nonsensical. Anything could work if it's well written. If you weren't a retarded newfag you would know that well written doesn't mean anything if it can't sell toys.>Baron was the fucking final boss of Gaim after all.Kaito wasn't villainous for the entire show. He spent most of it being friendly with Kouta and even after becoming Lord He still had respect for him.Don't respond
>come back>see lots of replies>it's just discussion about secondariesI'm confused, is the argument about what qualifies as a secondary? Why is this an argument when there are only 2 answers, what Toei considers a secondary and what Bandai considers a secondary
I'm surprised that Kami has only been given the chance to head a show thrice and Yamaguchi only once
>>23916899>If every show was different, we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with.The irony of saying this and posting a screencap of the show with the first and only all-female villain starter group. If I had your kind of autism I would be saying that the Dark Sisters suck because every other show starts out with at least one male recurring villain but this one doesn't.>If we have 26 secondary riders and all but one have something in common with each other then it's a ruleNo, you just have severe autism.>Anything could work if it's well written.Exactly, retard. Who the fuck cares if the Secondary is a villain for most of the show? If Nox was well-written, nobody but raging autists like you would complain about him. You're the only kind of smoothbrained retards who complain that Kusaka isn't Takumi's buddy.>If you weren't a retarded newfag you would know that well written doesn't mean anything if it can't sell toysWho the fuck cares about the toy sales in this context? We're not Bandai, what we care about is the writing, that's what we're discussing.>Kaito wasn't villainous for the entire showHe's the only Secondary Rider to be a final boss. Is it an "unwritten rule" that Secondaries can't be final bosses because no other Secondary in the franchise has held that position? No. Does that quirk make Kaito a bad character? No.This is how retarded your autistic-ass logic is.
>>23916918Don't reply to bait, there's never been anyone that says>Don't respondand actually wants to have a honest argument, he's just ragebaiting for (you)s and derailing the thread
>>23916905We were discussing the worst Secondary Riders in the franchise, and while some people were arguing which ones were the shittiest characters, some retards came in to argue that the quality of a Secondary is entirely defined by how good of a sidekick they are, which is fucking retarded, especially for a franchise where there's usually tons of in-fighting between the Riders and where the Secondary tends to be the MC's main rival.
>>23916925>it's another "any post that I don't like is bait" anonYou really solidify why this general is garbage
>>23916931>some retards came in to argue that the quality of a Secondary is entirely defined by how good of a sidekick they areNo one was arguing that. Kusaka is arguably poorly written because a lot of shit revolves around cheap melodrama. It depends on how much you can stomach Faiz and Inoue's writing.
>>23916918>>23916925I have the last word. I win.
>>23916925>>23916918stop responding to yourself
>>23916943>No one was arguing thatHere >>23916899 and >>23916843 were literally arguing thatClearly to shitpost since rather than giving a proper argument anon says "don't respond" or retardery like this >>23916945
>>23916949>>23916918>that the quality of a Secondary is entirely defined by how good of a sidekick they arebut I didn't say that at all. My point was that Secondary Riders doing certain things is what makes them the "Secondary Rider". I didn't mention or even imply that they're bad if they don't do it .>Clearly to shitpost since rather than giving a proper argument anon says "don't respond"I told you not to respond because the argument is pointless, retarded and is just gonna go on and on because you can't fucking read. I'll tell you again Don't Respond.
>>23916835Sieg only hunted bad guys, retard
>>23916931>>23916925>>23916949
>>23916955>My point was that Secondary Riders doing certain things is what makes them the "Secondary Rider"And that makes 0 sense because there are official denominations >>23916905 and according to Toei being a "secondary rider" means being the rider with the second most focus, there really isn't a debate when there are official answers and you derailed a conversation that wasn't about what defined a secondary
>23916961>23916955why reply multiple times to the same post? stop trying to reach image limit
In today's episode of /krg/, >every secondary has to be the exact same character and do the exact same thing every show for 50 years or my autistic brain won't recognize itin the next episode of /krg/>if the character is different than what I arbitrarily classified him as, then it's a BAD CHARACTER!!!!
>>23916915Kami is pretty new actually so it's normal, Yamaguchi only being picked once stands outBut personally I want Taguchi to get picked as head director but I don't know if he's considered too prolific since he works outside of Toki a lot
>>23916962>>23916968>>23916964>anon says "dont respond" cause the argument is pointless >continues to respond and further proving the anons pointyou can't make this shit up
>>23916962>because there are official denominations>being the rider with the second most focusbut you said here >>23916291 that >There's no written rules about Secondariesbut now you're saying that there is a rule and Toei has one.Which one is it?
>>23916979I'm not that anon
>>23916975I'm the second post. I opened the thread after seeing the deluge of responses thinking there were any MY-TH news. Instead I get autist nightmare wars and retards like yourself spamming to hit image limit.Besides, I respond to whoever I want. Especially if it's to call you a retard, retard.
>>23916980>>23916982Why respond then? You're complaining about conversations being derailed and then further dragging on an already dead argument.I'm so tired
>>23916968krx50 hate
Hiiii Kamen Rider General, Hiiii! Hello! Hiiii!
>>23916984You keep spamming when people don't reply >>23916945>>23916961Just kill yourself
>>23916984Because I have free will and I want to tell you that you shouldn't have it. In fact, you responded too. Retard.
>>23916988That's not me
Just silently report and stop giving the avatarfag the attention he wants
>>23916945>>23916945I got the last word, you lose.
>>23916973>>23916915Is Yamaguchi considered prolific? Color implied the director of My-Th would be a big get but the only ones that come to mind are Sakamoto and Ishida.
>>23916996no i did
>>23917005NUH UH
>annoyingly replies to himself as a cry for attentionjfc>>23916998nah even though his ex-aid episodes are considered iconic he's only done kiramager which didn't get many views at the time of airing so yamaguchi is definitely not heading my-thit's most likely ishida to reunite kuuga's staff
>>23916957He only got to kill criminals, but he wanted to punish all of humanity, targeted Nem and her fans, nearly tricked Baku into killing his own sister for shits and giggles, and almost got Baku killed once. He had no noble intentions, he's just a murderhobo.
>>23912855 #ReVice was an absolute kick in the gut. It felt like half way through they were writing it more for social media than anything else (which was even self admitted in some cases). It had such a strong start, incredibly so... then everybody started getting all these lazy suits and God help you if you were even the least bit endeared to poor Go. It felt like it tried its best to eat Den-O's lunch but only got the most rotten bits.About the only thing I ended up liking was the weird little murder mystery experiment they did in that one special. It made me want more "smaller scale" toku stories like that. Not necessarily filler, something with stakes, but maybe not that the world was ending. It's kinda hard to explain because it sorta sounds like just more filler, but there was something very engaging about that special.
>>23914429If you have a Biblical knowledge before you go in it gets even better. There are some deep things in there that the writer actually does better than most Christian creators. If you don't, there's one character that will piss you off to no end and a scene that may go over your head. Easily my favorite rider series.>>23914631Fellow underrated gem enjoyer. Toukiden was my favorite monhun clones. I really need to play Wild Hearts at some point, especially considering it just got a random update.
I don't even watch Kamen Rider anymore, I'm just here to keep up with the new toys. I'm praying for the inevitable CSM Gamer Driver
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>>23917133I forget, /toy/ is now having threads autosage right?
I just realized I never finished the last two episodes of Geats. I was so pissed off at it that I couldn't bring my self to finish it
>>23917144Yes, after two weeks all threads start to autosage regardless of post count.
>>23917087>If you have a Biblical knowledge before you go in it gets even better. There are some deep things in there that the writer actually does better than most Christian creators. If you don't, there's one character that will piss you off to no end and a scene that may go over your head.Elaborate.
Top 5 MC riders with the highest on screen body count of humans
>>23917159Damn that sucks, I don't get why they can't rangeban schizosSimilar deal happened in /tg/
Maybe you all should just shut the fuck up and enjoy the show?
>>23916869Because no one would take it seriously when your main heroes look like that
>>23917162I don't want to spoil, so below are actual spoilers that are best not read unless you've watched the show:Kouta is a pretty obvious Jesus allegory and it becomes more obvious as the show goes on. There's even an episode where the world turns against him and he still chooses to sacrifice himself for the world (it's also one of my favorite episodes). Micchi, on the other hand, represents an almost Judas like character but, more than anything, is a stand in for the unforgivable and how Kouta refused to give up on him for an instance even going so far as to sacrifice himself for him to stop him from hurting himself and ultimately forgiving him (the scene with the feathers). its an odd scene out of place if you don't get what it was meant to simblify, but with how much emphasis it put on that forgiveness, you can tell the director did his research. Even when Micchi does the completely unforgivable and Kouta acknowledges he has done it, he still refuses to drop him. This eventually culminates to Micchi realizing what he has done at the very tail end and changing his ways. This scene is kinda controversial though as it feels he has earned the other characters forgiveness way too easily when in reality it had been months of him mentally torturing himself but the time jump doesn't really give us the gravity of that.I watched the show twice through, once before I was a Christian, once after. It was funny how that "feather" scene suddenly made since and how much more I appreciated the character of Micchi and what he stood for upon the rewatch. Gaim is in a tie with Faiz as my favorite series, but may inch out just ahead. I also need to rewatch Saber with all the additional context and lore as I hear that one is a lot better with those things in mind..
>>23917205Also, sorry for the grammatical errors. Not running on a lot of sleep at the moment.
>>23917207Is there a Gavv and Agito equivalent of these images? I think those are the show's that baffled my expectations the most
>>23917211Probably, some other anon made that one and it was just one of the first that came up when I searched "gaim" in my pictures. Agito was such an incredible, wild ride. Especially coming off Kuuga. My only gripe was the ending felt insanely rushed. You had all these mysteries being built up. Ancient gods, human evolution, a genuinely bizarre bad guy, then Agito rushes in, kicks the main bad before he can do anything, and suddenly the whole thing is over. early heisei had some major fumbles when it came to the very last bit of their shows. Not enough to ruin them, but enough to hurt a bit.
>>239171631. Showa Riders, Kuuga and 555 (all their enemies are modified, mutated or evolved humans)2. Tsukasa (killed a bunch of enemies from Showa Rider, Kuuga and 555 as well as two alternate Sougos, also assisted in killing Amadum)3. Sougo (killed Shiro Kanzaki, Swartz, SOUGO, Sougo C and kid Ohma)4. Shotaro (killed 4 NEVERs, including Jun Kazu)5. Eiji (killed the Luna Dopant, Gara and Maki), Touma (killed Legeiel, Bahato and Storious) and Ikki (killed 3 Gifftex Deadmans)
>>23917087>If you have a Biblical knowledge before you go in it gets even better.Saber and Agito are also like this, though Agito leans more into Gnosticism.
>>23917237>Saber and Agito are also like thisGeats as well.
>>23917216>spoilerYeah, according to Shirakura the show was supposed to be 5 episodes shorter which is why the fight against the El of Water feels more like a final fight since it was originally meant to be. But Ryuki got delayed so Inoue had to cobble up together something quickly which is why the last few episodes feel so off.Gavv also had a similar deal where Bocca was meant to be the actual final fight which is why it's significantly cooler than the lame dual final fight which were unplanned by Komura.
>>23917243>Gavv also had a similar deal where Bocca was meant to be the actual final fight which is why it's significantly cooler than the lame dual final fight which were unplanned by Komura.By the time they wrote and filmed it, Lango had already been chosen as the final boss, the changes were made around the time they introduces Rakia.
>>23917237That's what I've heard about Saber which was another one I watched before I was Biblically literate, but on top of that I've heard the additional lore was wild. Some anon did a massive breakdown that I've got bookmarked somewhere that I'll read before I watch it again. It was a series I already enjoyed and have always been meaning to go back to, but I gotta rewatch W first as that was a series I didn't initially like as going from phase 1 to 2 was such a massive tonal shift that I wasn't ready for. I wanna see if it's any better now that I actually like some of the more "exaggerated" elements of phase 2.>>23917243Ah, I didn't know that. It's honestly a shame because if Agito didn't have that sudden stop I'd say it was THE definitive Kamen Rider series, but it's such a jarring and sudden stop that it sort of leaves you reeling. It also felt like there was some mysteries they just weren't able to close up, but it has been a fat minute since I watched it so I can't quite remember what they were. I just remember being intensely disappointed. It's like if you were eating filet mignon at a 5 star restaurant and all the sides were incredible... then they bring the dessert out and it's a dollar store jello cup. It wasn't the worst thing in the world, didn't ruin the meal you just ate, but it's certainly a damper. And for Gavv the whole second half is sort of a blur to me. I just really wasn't enjoying it. The action was incredible and the director putting to focus more on stunts and interesting locations to fight was amazing, but the lead cast were some of my least favorites in the entire series. They all clicked way to fast and they felt way more reactionary to the bad guys rather than having any sort of agenda of their own. It almost felt like they lived in the filler, mundane tasks right up to the very end... the villains though, thank God for them and their constantly shifting dramas and motivations. If it wasn't for them I'd say Gavv was one of my worst.
>>23917243>Gavv also had a similar deal where Bocca was meant to be the actual final fight which is why it's significantly cooler than the lame dual final fight which were unplanned by Komura.It was not a similar deal, Lango being the final boss was decided by the time they decided to keep the Stomachs around. Hell, the whole Bocca right was setting up Lango as the final boss.
>>23917274>>23917249I meant in that there's a fight that's much cooler because it was actually planned as the final fight originally. I get that Gavv isn't the same case because it's more so because Komura not adapting the script after the change rather than a literal last minute change like Agito.
For those of you wondering what I think of Ex-Aid, it's not very good. It's too faced pased and it doesn't have characters I like and relate
>>23916613Isn't the frog a mistranslation for bull?
>>23917377>For those of you wondering what I thinkwhy would we and who are you?
>>23917377Bruh, I had a hard time getting into phase 2 and even I loved Ex-Aid. About my only gripe is that it took to about the Christmas episode to really get going, but when it started the foot never came off the gas pedal. >>23917163I think its harder to target the Riders that willingly killed humans, especially of the non-modified variety. I'll never forget when Chihiro knowingly and willingly killed some security officers during a reasonable crashout. My jaw dropped as Riders usually have an almost ridiculous level of refusal to kill human enemies, and I knew his death would follow soon after due to that strict nip morality. It was kind of a neat moment really. On a side note, whoever invented the WEBP file type deserves to be taken out back. All I wanted was one single pic to accompany the post and had to go to a completely different search engine for it.
So the western fandom basically has the same taste as the japanese fans, right? I know China loves Blade and Saber
>>23917508Yes, though Zeztz seems to have a more positive reception in the west than in Japan, at least for the first half.
>>23917508I think there are some slight differences like the West not really being as into Faiz and Den-O and it feels kinda like Fourze is slightly more popular but nothing that significant.
which episode of kiva has wataru saying nervously saying "kiss kiss" and the girl thinks hes picking up girls on the street?
>>23917508It's not really 1:1, but we mostly agree on popular series like Faiz, Den-O and Gaim, even if it's for completely different reasons.
>>23915339It is. Their plan is basically to have 3 or 4 half year shows with characters carrying over and then combine them Avengers style before the actors can get too old or famous enough to not be at their beck and call and attempt to grab people with continuity and combined universe. It's probably not gonna work but that's their plan.
>>23916113He didn't like Takumi much either. He was just vaguely starting to warm up to him ie: tolerate him and not want him dead when he was killed but he was basically killed by his own fault because of his attempts to manipulate Takumi and Kiba into killing each other so he could have Mari to himself. The only other major character besides Mari Kusaka seems to vaguely like is Keitaro and that's because he's of no threat
>>23916845>Compare with Zi-O where every single past hero is powerless before Zi-O's OCs, aside from Decade and DiendNot all of them, just pretty much everyone in the first half and that because they realized last second that the experienced Riders in the present would just stomp the Another Riders and overshadow Z iO if they didn't do that.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10814125399
>>23917550why china got so many cool items?
>>23917230There's also the fact that the Masquerade Dopants are transformed human goons and Double wasted a shit ton of them.
Oh fuck off! Just let him ruin rider instead
>>23917550Can't wait to see how Tokushoutsu's graphic designers make their English version of Zeztz logo too. There's even already have an in-universe one for them to ignore too.
>>23917594You deserve this bad dream lol
>>23917594>Flame
>>23916637I remember that gag to this day. It's so simple yet a fucking masterpiece. The direction too. Every time Inoue writes comedy and the way the scenes are directed it helps conveying the comedy.For example the Dark Kitchen arc, I just laugh at Kagami's dad proudly looking at his patrons enjoying the food. And Tendou casually making food using cloth as ingredient without batting an eye.
>>23917594I wish this was true, would guarantee omegahorn to be good
>>23917594Stop shilling your own twitter accountHow fucking desperate for attention can you be?
>>23917594>>23917226I don't why someone would let a writer live so rent free in their heads to troll about him 24/7
>>23917706Unfortunately, the only solution is to rangeban SEAs and Mexicans.
>>23917720/m/ would be like four people at that point it's gotten so bad. They don't even try to use proper English anymore auto translate is the fucking worst./m/ is also incredibly unfunny and boring anymore because humor and irony don't translate well, so nobody gets the jokes people are making, or the jokes people try to make just fall flat.I am so happy we live in a cool Star Trek future, but I feel like I am surrounded by a bunch of 15 year old actual aliens from outer space half the time, and I miss adult humans who like the same things I do.
>>23917728The /m/od disappearing years ago also didn't help.
>>23917455>and I knew his death would follow soon after due to that strict nip morality.I'd say that one is more a Yasuko Kobayashi specific issue, at least when writing "super heroes".Shinji, the hero of Ryuki, never kills any Riders. The only human Eiji kills in the tv show had become a full Greeed by the point he's killed. Den-O also never had to kill his final boss, another human singularity point, he just vanished due to overusing his own powers. In Amazons itself, the gritty adult show, you had the entire cast basically saying it wasn't their place to stop a serial killer.Her non super hero stuff is different, but it's clear she seems a super hero killing a human as some kind of moral horizon breaking event that doesn't make them an actual "hero" anymore (even if not necessarily a villain either).
>>23917743Also, with Maki, they don't even kill him directly, the purple medals create a blackhole wounding him -and- then's absorbed by that.
>>23917720>MexicansWhy them? None of the schizos from /m/ are re from there? And I think most of the latam schizos in /a/ are from Brazil? But I might be wrong with the latter one
>>23917728>/m/ would be like four people at that point it's gotten so badIf they rangeban there's a higher chance that actual people come back, it would still be a net positive
>>23917758You're right, I meant Brazilians.
>>23917758Can you actually tell the difference between Portuguese and Spanish? It's like Mandarin and Cantonese. I can't tell the difference, and I don't care, because this is an English copy of a Japanese website made by a trans woman in her mom's basement.
>>23917767pretty princess moot-chan
Saber is kino.
he really looks like Ikki when you squint
>>23917786While I hate your post I wonder if Fukuda would work well with another producer. I really liked Saber and liked most of his ideas for Ghost but due to the way Takahashi produces his shows I still cannot gauge whether or not he's a writer that's fit for toku.
>>23917767>tfw you've been called a newfag before by people who don't know who Christopher Poole is>tfw you've been called a newfag before by people who just started coming here during or after COVID
>>23917790I'm pretty ignorant about Kamen Rider, this is my second serie after Zero-one, but that walk sequence was epic.
>>23917790If he's not a good writer to begin with he's not a good fit for toku. Producer won't significantly change that.
>>23917799>If he's not a good writer to begin withHe's a great writer outside of toku, most of his drama are great. It's a matter of whether he's good or not at toku pacing which we don't know because the way Takahashi produces he shows.
>>23917798Saber's endgame is one of the best imo alongside Black's and Gaim's
Episode 41 synopsis>The Nightmares begin to move to take over the dream world, and Catastrophe Gore Nightmare destroys the CODE headquarters in North America. The Nightmares begin to move to take over the dream world, and Catastrophe Gore Nightmare destroys the CODE headquarters in North America. Zero discloses information to governments and investigative agencies around the world and takes command of the organization. Meanwhile, branches in various countries begin to be destroyed one after another, and upon learning this, Baku rushes to the CODE facilities.
>>23917743Yuka from Faiz was another character that suffered the whole "had to he punished for killing" fate. She was literally tortured by her family and classmates, had a post awakening shock, and due to that action she later had to atone for it. In a way though, maybe that's a somewhat good way to present it. Perhaps we in the west have gotten a little too comfortable justifying the murder of one another especially in our media and that leads to our dangerous political situation over here in which we outright dehumanize one another to justify violence. That may be a stretch though.
>>23917806Will Tom cameo as the commander of North American CODE?
>>23917808Tom was already killed by Sieg in a flashback
>>23917803It reiwa era has taught me anything, it's the absolute importance of having a better ending that a beginning. In heisei you rarely had a rider that would start good out the gate. A lot were slow burns until around episode 15-20 when it really got going. Hell, some like Blade didn't get really good till the last handful of episodes but the ending was so profoundly good that it became a memorable series. With Reiwa it feels like they blow their load right at the beginning then it almost always fizzles or completely falls apart in the middle and doesn't fully recover. Saber avoided this for sure. Zero One sorta did as well even with covid forcing their hand to rush and edit a lot of aspects. This also bleeds over to sentai.
>>23917807I did have somewhat of an issue with Yuka getting punished, but then I thought about it and she didn't really repent from killing so eh, she kinda deserved it even if I liked the thought of her getting a happy ending with Keitaro.
>>23917811Tom with a wig, then.
>>23917812Different tastes I guess, for me most of Heisei both started and ended good. An ending is really important since a really bad ending that retroactively screws established stuff up can really ruin a show like Hibiki or Black Sun, but other times a show can have a crappy ending but still be amazing due to everything else around it like W or Gaim and to a lesser extent Gavv.
>>23917819nta but in my case watching Faiz I was waiting for the shitty ending that was always talked around here, but besides the one plot thread that goes unresolved even on the anniversary from my understanding, the rest felt pretty conclusive I believe. I certainly didn't sour my view of the show as a whole.
>>23917815That's what I'm saying. From a western point of view we saw that and immediately justified murder (in the more extreme case, her family actually did try and kill her so it could have been argued a self defense/man slaughter). Our media may have kind of skewed the importance we put on a human life, even in a fictional sense. Again though, it might be a bit of a reach. Yuka is still the most beutiful girl and soul in toku.
>>23917819I would say quite a few had a start where the main story and conflict didn't get rolling for a bit, though that was mostly a phase 2 issue. Endings were a bit rockier in phase 1 though. Kuuga and Agito's feeling like you got cock blocked from the cool final confrontation... and then there's Kiva... oh man, Kiva. I don't feel like its fair to rag on Hibiki too hard considering all the background ish that was happening during its production.
>>23917816Tom in a drag
>>23917806>upon learning this, Baku rushes to the CODE facilities.I feel like the Zeztz vs Nox fakeout is going to be Nox trying to stop Baku going berserk as Catastrom rather than Nox trying to destroy CODE all over again.
>>23917720You're going to be in for a real shock when you realize the amerimutts here are just as bad due to being blacktwitterfags.
>>23917786>You came to the wrong book store, Megiddo.
>>23917786>>23917798After Saber should I continue Reiwa era with Revice?
>>23917935Ehh? It's widely considered the worst Reiwa season thanks to its terrible latter parts.
>>23917767>Mandarin and Cantonesebro, those 2 are so different it's like somali and black english
>>23917948That's why they mentioned Portuguese and Spanish before you fucking illiterate retard.
>>23917935Don't waste your time. Revice feels like it's specifically made to piss people off.
>>23917935Revice is one of the worst Kamen Rider seasons of all time imo, the first 18 episodes are great but after that the show completely falls apart
>>23917790>I hate your postTake your meds already.
>>23918009Nej.
>>23917975yeah but he said he can't tell the difference between so...
>>23916613So>Mouse & Cat: Chinese Mythology>Frog?/Ox? & Orca?: The Frog and the Ox? >Rabbit & Turtle: Rabbit and the Turtle >Dragon & Qilin: Imperial Majesty Lineage? >Snake & Mongoose: The Loyal Mongoose >Horse & Deer: The Horse and the Stag >Sheep & Wolf: The Wolf in Sheep's Clothing>Monkey & Crab: Sarukani Gassen >Chicken & Fish: The Fish and the Chicken >Dog & Eagle: ??? >Pig & Butterfly: The Butterfly Pig?>Tiger? & Owl: The Wise Owl and the Courageous TigerIs this about right?
>>23917455>On a side note, whoever invented the WEBP file type deserves to be taken out back. All I wanted was one single pic to accompany the post and had to go to a completely different search engine for it.Download Honeyview, it has a very easy to use converter
>>23917455Use 4chan XT dude
>>23917743Well yeah, taking a human life is not something to be treated lightly, no matter how justified it may be. As I think Shinji himself said in one episode, it's a line that once you've crossed it, there's no going back. It's not exactly something a normal human being can come to terms with very easily, as we also see in Ryuki.
>>23916613>>23918030So Ox is the tertiary and all 12 animals are showing up in Q1?
>>23917935Yes, because you deserve to suffer. It's not fair we all watched it and you won't.
>>23918057>>23917997>>23917994>>23917947What, is it really that bad?
>>23918063Just off the top of my head remembering>completely thrown out "Devil on your shoulder" plot>Vice becomes domesticated puppy almost instantly>George goes from a grey character to "I was a good guy all along" at the drop of a hat>George's double bitch fit and heel turn based on his DADDY~ issues>Ikki having nothing to do for huge swaths of the plot>Jeanne being the focus with her own harem>The lack of anything for Evil and Live>Jeanne>the anti vax message that even surprised Anti-Vaxers in Japan
>>23918072none of that makes any sense to someone who hasn't watched it you know
>>23917377BTW, I literally copied and pasted this post from Maurice’s dormant X account. The fact that you dipshits fell for it speaks VOLUMES.
>>23918088>>23918063Revice is bad but you're responding to a schizo that's genuinely obsessed with the show.
>>23918063It throws away its somewhat interesting premise to do jack shit for the second half of the show, the main antagonist is irrelevant and never feels like a threat, and it has one good character that isn't a part of the main cast.There's honestly too much wrong with it to summarize, but those are the worst ones to me. Oh, and the fight scenes also suck shit.By the way, I disliked Saber but Revice is infinitely worse.
>>23918097>Oh, and the fight scenes also suck shit.This has to be bait.
>>23918089Ghost and Ex-Aid came out 10 years ago. The average poster wasn't here during then or doesn't remember worthless shit like that. The fact that you remember his twitter account and decided to repost something from it speaks VOLUMES about you than anyone else
>>23918100nta but in the second half the action gets significantly worse because they start fighting the same enemies over and over again plus the 2 new Riders Over Demons and Aguilera don't really have a distinctive fighting style. I don't know if that what the anon meant, because in the first half I found the action to be amazing since it had a calculated chaos of sorts that made each fight interesting despite being messy kinda like ToQger or Zenkaiger.>>23918063Second anon you quoted, basically after episode 18 the show retcons some concepts for the worse and most of the cast becomes unlikeable, the few that didn't is because they dissappear from the show's middle. It's imo the only below average Reiwa show with the only other Reiwa show I'd say I don't like is Gotchard which is just average.
>>23918111Ok, maybe I'll watch my first Heisei era show after Zero One and Saber. What do you recommend?
>>23918115I started with OOO which I loved but I recommend you to watch either Kuuga or W.
>>23918111Not that anon, but to me a lot of the action in the 1st half of Revice was ruined by the Remixes. They were used surprisingly a lot for mostly CG forms, in spite of most looking very bad.
>>23918115Since you watched Zero-One maybe Ex-Aid by the same writer? There's also Ghost by the same writer of Saber, it's considered one of the worst Rider seasons of all time and while I thought that too at the time of airing I thought the show was pretty good if you watch Ghost alongside its side content which explains a lot more of the world-building, the issue with that is that you'd need a watch guide.
>>23918097>Oh, and the fight scenes also suck shitBut enough about Zeztz.
>>23918097>the main antagonist is irrelevant and never feels like a threatThis better describes Lango.
>>23918115Agito honestly gives you a pretty good idea of how a fair bit of early Heisei era Rider functions and as such wouldn't be a bad idea
>>23918097>the main antagonist is irrelevant and never feels like a threat>and the fight scenes also suck shit.I know we're supposed to hate on Revice but you have to actually watch the show instead of parroting what other anons post. >>23918152Stomach defenders always bring up Deadmans and Giffu for some reasons.
>>23918144I feel the same way about Zeztz. The quality of the action has gone down. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're NOT the Revicefag that spams replies every time there is criticism, and constantly posts that one Daiji fight (that also sucks) as a rebuttal.>>23918152Both Lango AND Bocca have the exact same problem. You act like saying Revice sucked means every other Reiwa show is perfect. Gifu is still worse than them. I liked Deadmans and Akaishi, though.
>>23918152>>23918160>Gavv out nowhere when no one mentioned Gavv Why? Don't let things live rent free in your head. >>23918097As someone who thinks Revice is the worst Rider show ever, Revice doesn't have the worst protagonist, antagonist, villain generals nor motw, hell I'd go as far as to say the motw in Revice are actually pretty great since they're one of the few things that actually play on the head writer's strengths.I agree with Gifu not feeling like a threat after he becomes a statue but his presence is intrinsic for the show's story, setting and spin-offs, he never stops being relevant. Still one of the worst antagonists though.
>>23917379Lemon was using Kekera image as a hint
>>23918185Are we not allowed to talk about Kamen Rider shows in /krg/ - Kamen Rider General.
>>23918190? The second anon said>Stomach defendersWhen the anon didn't mention Gavv>>23918187I suppose Ox and Frog, but the issue with that is the Orca not fitting anywhere
>>23918127I heard Ex-Aid, like Kuuga is one of the best serie and should be watched a bit later. Is it right? I guess it's ok to watch them but maybe they're so special that watching the other shows after them it will be a big "downgrade"
>>23918193Kuuga is one of the best and Ex-Aid is really damn great although not to the same level of Kuuga.
>>23918196What are the best shows other than Kuuga and Ex-aid in your opinion? Maybe I can watch Ex-Aid so I can finally watch Kamen Raider Genms cross over with Zero One
>>23918197V3, Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, OOO, Fourze, Gaim and Build imo. But you might want to get a second opinion just in case.
>>23918217I got scared reading this post thinking I'm Tyler Durden. That list is the exact same as mine, except I would also add Drive to it.
>>23918217>V3Based Showa fan. I'd also add Stronger myself.
>>23918174>Both Lango AND Bocca have the exact same problemNo, Bocca actually feels like a threat and has more of a presence than Lango.>You act like saying Revice sucked means every other Reiwa show is perfect.That doesn't make any sense.>Gifu is still worse than themI'm not debating that, Giff doesn't have a personality and has zero lines until very late into the show, but he's not irrelevant since a huge chunk of the show revolves around him and he did feel like a major threat until the arc where they finally killed him off.>>23918185>Why? Because he described Gavv's final boss, not Revice's.
>>23918185>I agree with Gifu not feeling like a threat after he becomes a statueHe was at his scariest and most ominous back when he was a statue.
>>23918250Had a brainfart my bad, I meant to say "not feeling like a threat after he stops being a statue".
>>23918185who are the worst then?
>>23918262>ProtagonistHoutaro from Gotchard>AntagonistSuel from Geats>Villain GeneralsZi-O (Uru, Ora, White Woz), but Hibiki and Decade don't really have traditional villain generals>motwWizardI consider Geats to be above average in spite of that though. Zi-O too but even though I like the show Zi-O is an objectively bad show.
>>23918262The worst protagonist is Ace because he's a piece of shit and a hypocrite, and the show never calls him out for that.
>>23918249I understood what Bocca was meant to represent but the show being stretched between that, and keeping the Stomach family around while that was happening never made him feel as important as he should've been. I understand that was due to the rewrites, though.>a huge chunk of the show revolves around him and he did feel like a major threatYou're correct about it revolving around him, but I mean irrelevant once he actually comes into the picture. The build him up a lot, and when he finally acts, he does nothing. The suit waddles around like a penguin, and he was the least important thing during the arc.It's hard to feel threatened by something that isn't actually present for most of the show, and when present, does nothing, then dies unceremoniously. If Gifu wasn't real the show would hardly change.I give Revice extra shit for that because that Q2 (or was it Q3?) with Weekend actually made me excited for what could come out of it, but the only thing that came out of it was endless mook fights and Gifu faceplanting to death.
>>23918278Aruto's a close second.
>>23918282Aruto is likable but when you break down what he's after, he has insanely dangerous and anti-human ideals.>humagears are meant to work along humans to achieve their dreams!!>sure several have proven dangerous and have begun to hate humans even without outside influence >and yes, some have expressed the want to recieve payment even though they are created to do everything better than humans and they will absolutely take their jobs>but they are good, a serious net positive! Still, if I had a robot as cute as Izu I'd be whipped too.
>>23918280>It's hard to feel threatened by something that isn't actually present for most of the show, and when present, does nothing, then dies unceremoniously. If Gifu wasn't real the show would hardly change.What do you even mean by this? Giff still does things when he's sealed inside his coffin and, shortly after he awakens, the heroes go through their lowest moments because his influence is just that strong. If Giff wasn't real then Akaishi wouldn't be a villain because he's pretty much just there to enforce Giff's will, he does what he does because he wants humanity to submit to Giff instead of facing extinction by his hand.Let's not forget that Akaishi spent a good chunk of the show following Giff's orders and speaking for him, even if the audience couldn't hear Giff utter a word. His awakening made all the demons stronger, he offed people and sunk Fenix's flying base like it was nothing and he made the heroes writhe in pain just by standing there. He was depicted as Rosyuo levels of overpowered up until Akaishi's death, when he finally threw hands and got nerfed hard. And even then, he got to one-shot Ultimate Revi and Evility Live as his last feat just to reinforce the idea that they couldn't kill him until they figured out a way to literally depower him.
>>23918313Forgiving Horobi one last time just led to him and his team massacring ZAIA Japan and forcing Fuwa to commit murder-suicide with them just because he didn't believe they deserved forgiveness. And Aruto was too busy setting up his big new satellite to intervene in this mess directly.
Your schizos are invading /m78/ again, /krg/. Can you put them on a tard-leash or something?
