> Both wanted to create a hereditary dictatorship/monarchy>Neither had children hitting their 40s-50sWhat was their plan?
>>239183351.Gihren is in his mid thirties and Kycilia is twenty something. They have time. Having kids too early just opens up a new vulnerability.2.Neither will have any issues finding partners due to their status.3.They can let Dozle and/or Garma handle this and take over from there.And all this is assuming they didn't have any bastard kids along the way. Pretty unlikely for Kycilia but Gihren was a notorious sex pest and pervert. Not like he'd care if he got someone pregnant.
Kycilia wanted to become a stay at home wife and mother to a horde of blue eyed blonde haired Deikun babies.
>>23918335Kycilia would have turned 30 and Gihren 41 in U.C.0085 (GQ) so even though Kycilia is starting to push it they would both still have time (if not for dying).But maybe they thought Mineva was good enough as a fall back so didn't feel that much pressure
Why does Dozle, the largest Zabi, not simply eat all the others?
>>23918361He's not bulking... yet.
>>23918361Because for all of Dozle's faults as a rapist (Haman's older sister) and a mass murderer (Operation British: Side 1) the man genuinely did love his family. Garma and Degwin far more than Gihren and Kycilia, but he was the least ambitious of all the Zabi siblings. >>23918335Going my MSV material Kycilia could have had Johnny Ridden as a mate at any time, but actively chose to never reciprocate his feelings. We still don't know the fully story behind Glemy, but he apparently is either a bastard child from Gihren or some kind of failed clone that scrubbed the physical defects but were unable to retain Gihrens 200+ IQ.
>>23918388>>23918350It's always implied but never stated. Bandai genuinely loathes ZZ so it'll probably never be confirmed and that's for the best.
>>23918350>>23918335>>23918358they would have to win the war first. or call for a 5 yr ceasefire. babybooms usually happen AFTER a war.
>>23919084Why is that for the best?
>>23918357Nearly every conflict in the UC could have been prevented if Char wasn't such a fag
>>23919847This would actually be an interesting question to ask but which would be stupidly boring to animate (if at all): What if Char was successfully assassinated by Kycilia as a child?
>>23918388but Glemmy did have a 200+ IQ
>>23919847Not really.
>>23918388>rapist (Haman's older sister)Que?
>>23919929Marlene Karn. Before Dozle had even met Zena, he was introduced to Haman's older sister at a party by her father. So entranced by Marlene's stunning beauty, Dozle grabbed her in the middle of the party and took her back to his bedroom. (I don't have the manga panel on hand, but Marlene was initially traumatized by the whole matter.) There is a large gap from here, but the group Kycilia managed likely took Marlene father aside and made an arrangement for the whole matter to be brushed under the rug in return for him being granted administration over Axis. For other reasons we were never told, Marlene was either told not to bare Dozle's children, or was outright sterilized since she was kept as a Mistress during Dozle's marriage to Zena years later. There are some lingering rumors that Marlene may have privately given birth to the progenitor of what would be used as the genetic parent of the Ple-series.
>>23919937So indeed, Ple IS the older half sister of Minerva!
>>23919937Is this from a manga or one of the Gundam novels?
>>23919817I think there's already too much side manga, databooks, and supplementary material about the OYW to the point that it's kind of embarrassing for Zeon to have lost in such fashion with all the wunderwaffe that have been added retroactively. >>23919859There's two Glemy's that exist in ZZ, one is the dorky naive Roux-loving named grunt, and the other is the 200 IQ Ple-cloning insurrection leader. There is no way to reconcile the two (in-universe) without assuming he got swapped by a clone offscreen. If anything, if ZZ Define ever happens, I think Kitazume has to stick to either one and stick with that characterization for the whole story
>>23919084Man this manga is so good.
>>23918335Gihren created the purus and glemy for exactly that purupose.
>>23920198If it were up to me I'd play up the sympathy factor and have his more reprehensible actions be because of clone/cyber-newtype degradation so the Roux thing is a lot more palatable. Then make Judau and Haman's connection a bit less one-sided, so that when both are dead and Neo-Zeon is gone, Judau and Roux going together to Jupiter is less out of nowhere, and more two people looking for a connection they lost in the war
>>23920113It's from Char's Deleted Affair, which while originally was meant to fill in the gap between 0079 and Zeta, Kitazume went on to make Zeta Define, which is his take on Zeta, so nothing in CDA is considered hard canon, compared to say, something like Moon or Pulitzer. But I do appreciate it being closer to the original adult~ish tone of the novelizations
>>23920272>nothing in CDA is considered hard canon, compared to say, something like Moon or Pulitzer.
>>23920198> There is no way to reconcile the two (in-universe) without assuming he got swapped by a clone offscreen.funny enough this is implied in U.C. Engagehttps://youtu.be/dkZ5CXxSBFY
>>23920301how did decide which one leads the axis zeon civil war
