With the anniversary of Gquuuuuux, what went wrong? Where did it all go wrong?
I liked it, more projects like this should happen more often
>>23919690Shit gag anime that doesn't take itself seriously
I feel the characters didn't really live up to the hype of the world building and setting, and I really overall just didn't care for Lalah Sune being the driving force behind EVERYTHING.
>>23919703The driving force is Char though.
>>23919707I thought Lalah was the one who created a bunch of alt universes so she could be with Char again.
>>23919690>what went wrong?Newtype bullshit
>>23919690literally nothing went wrong, it's the Turn A of this century.
>>23919710Lalah is the mcguffin, Char is the AltUC protagonist.
The problem was pretty well apparent while the show was airing. An alternate history what-if would have been good. A big tournament arc type batlle anime would have been good. Some big Eva style mutliverse thing that was about all these emotions would have been good. The problem is that those are 3 separate, distinct anime. If they had literally any chance of covering all 3 in one series it needed to be a full 50 episode run like many other entries in the franchise already are. Cramming all of that into 12 episodes was so actually retarded that everyone involved in that decision should be an instant red flag on all future projects.
>>23919690Too few episodes, tried to do too many things with the few they had, multiverse crap instead of committing to an alternate timeline and sticking to it.
>>23919737There was no brown shota trap though.
It's kind of a shame how they completely abandoned the iconic designs and art style of the original, completely basterdized the fictional science of the original to absurdity, simultaneously managed to underdevelope the new cast while making them feel out workplace in the grander narrative of the world, added in elements and references from vaguely related anime for no real reason and decided to make the ending a completely unnecessary good ending for characters that already got a good enough conclusion year prior. Even the action scenes were a downgrade to the original anime It's milking nostalgia from. I expected better from Tsurumaki, but at least the girls were cute
>>23919798>shota
>>23919692CUTE DEUX!
>>23919801>I expected better from TsurumakiSo you never watched the Rebuilds
>>23919692>DeuxKamille must have been bummed out that Deux died in this timeline.
>>23919792I'm sure production schedules overlapped and it wouldn't have been possible to take too much direct feedback but it's funny how one of the primary criticisms of WfM was that it essentially had two different premises fighting for screen time in a show shorter than usual, then the next show is half the length again and has even more shit scrambling for attention.I was watching with a friend who hadn't seen any Gundam before and it was interesting. We both lost interest near the end, them because it was just a mess of references without any real meaning on its own and me because I got the references but thought it was all stupid.
>>23919792>Eva style mutliverse thingWhat? Is this how zoomers see Eva?
>>23919798Shut up guin
>>23919690Mostly trying to do too much for a one season long show. The only real complaint I have about the show is the pacing, either more episodes or picking a focus would have done it well. And more Doo.
>>23920129You haven't seen the Rebuilds, have you?
>>23919690>couldnt decide if it wanted to be about machu or char, committed to neither>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's there>draw a child, call her a middle-aged veteran>random pedobait character instead of idk four or something (low t users will say deux is good)>amuro's fate in the alt timeline isn't discussed at all>amuro's soul is in the gquuuuuux because [???]>all the OYW suits look like ass except for a couple>gmgoog>the clan battle shit drags on, all the fights suck, it's ultimately irrelevanti could go on but i dont want to waste any more time thinking about this show
>>23920179>>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's thereTypical Newtype attraction.
>>23920179It's for the best that Four wasn't used because Deux's role was to show up for two minutes before getting killed off by Challia Bull. Like it's already bad enough that it happened to Deux but imagine a fan favorite character getting that sort of treatment.
>>23919690Should have stayed on Side 6, at least for longer.Should have stayed focused on the new characters and Chalia. It's fine for the OG cast to be involved, but they shouldn't be the focus. Needed either more length or more focus. Tried to do too much with too little, and that's coming from someone who liked the breakneck pacing. Still a pretty good show, though. Was fun, looked and sounded great, felt good to watch. >>23919792Bingo.I think doing two out of those three stories would have been fine. Exploring this alternate history setting from a ground-level perspective on Side 6 with the Clan Battle stuff could have worked well, and was at first.
too cluttered for its length.
>>23920179>amuros fate in the alt timeline isn't discussed at allI would've guessed he was the one who got the guncannon operational in the opening once the gundam wasn't an option and got himself killed off immediately.>amuros soul is in the gquuuuuuux because [???]Yeah I cant make heads or tails of that either, specifically CCA Amuro.
>>23920196Given a full run it would have been interesting to spend more time with side 6, have some clan battles in the Zaku while the gundam hunt goes on elsewhere, then converge later down the line
>>23920212You wouldn't even need a full run, the best parts of the show are already there. When I think Gqux, I think of Clan Battles and Machu and Nyaan on Side 6 with https://youtu.be/zA7Mtlrlv1I?si=2xLJ9sAGlz9o_ELi playing. I guess you'd have to get Machu to Earth, though. I dunno.
Tried to do way too much with the time it had. You're given almost no time to get to know the new characters and why you should give a shit about them before the show shoves them aside and turns into yet another Charwank production. Multiverse shit is always bad and it's bad here too.
>establishes their earth is suffering global cooling >Machu and Nyan end up by a beach for a happy end What did theu mean by this
>>23920224>Multiverse shit is always bad and it's bad here too.People who say this only found out about multiverses from capeshit movies. This shit has been around forever. Its like when people say time travel is bad because theyre too young to have seen Terminator and BttF
>>23920224Multiverse shit can work. It could have worked here too, but not in the midst of everything else. >>23920232Global cooling doesn't mean Earth instantly turns into Hoth.
>>23919690It was actually pretty good. Its main problem though was the same that plagues a lot of shows these days, it was just too short for all the ideas they put in it. It needed a full 26 episode season to do that. As it is, it was paced way too fast and didn't have enough time to breath or explore most of its concepts.
>>23920239Yeah even during the ice age it was still hot as balls at the equator.
>>23920179>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's thereYou didn't grow up with teenage sisters, did you? That whole shit was incredibly realistically written.
Shuji could have been fleshed out more, I know they were going with the whole Lalah angle like in 0079, but Lalah had more scenes focused on her in 0079
The whole story just being the result of Shuji simulating the murder of his unrequited love over and over again didn't sit well with me. I mean I guess it's believable as an act of passion from a newtype who's far enough gone, but it just doesn't feel connected with the show's premise. Didn't help that despite being such an inciting event, we don't even know how Shuji knows Lalah, and shortly after we are explained how madly in love he is with Lalah, we are supposed to accept him and Machu as being a thing.
>>23920267You are thinking of relationships and feelings as Wiki entries.
>>23920278What an inhuman response. What does that even mean?
A lot of cool ideas that just didn't feel connected.Like I enjoyed Challia Bull's depiction for most the show. And it kind of feels like his big scene that culminates between him and Machu is him telling his story of nearly committing suicide, and giving his gun to Machu as a sentimental symbol to keep going but... Machu is never really depicted as encountering that kind of challenge at all or having to climb up from that kind of low and it's literally just a gun to her.Great set up. Meh payoff. A lot of the show was like this.
>>23920278>Shuji is underwritten.>something something Wiki entries ???
The entire conversation between Machu and Shuji at the end is so stupidHow does Shuji know that the entire universe is going to be destroyed? is he making that shit up?Why does he suddenly love Lalah?Why is Machu soapboxing that "real" newtypes are mentally strong when the entire point of them in UC is that they're still humanly fallible but with exploitable abilities?
>>23920320The actual scene where she uses the gun is wierd. She hypes herself up, does an epic sceen, unlocks the Omega Psychommu but all she does is unplug a cable
It's strange to me how some fanbases are more forgiving of a shows flaws than others. Like AU fans and Geass fans eat that shit up, but a lot of people on /m/ are really critical of anything UC.
>>23920331I don't like the Shuji stuff either, but it's implied he's been doing this over and over. So he knows the universe will reset because he's done this before. And he's not suddenly in love with Lalah, he's been in love with her since before the cycles began.Now this does call to attention that we don't know what started this relationship, if it's one sided, or if Lalah even knew the guy. It's also hard to imagine how Shuji first discovered "killing" Lalah doesn't actually kill her, it just resets the dream. Like... At some point he would have had to been inclined to try and kill her without knowing it wouldn't kill her for real.
>>23920333I'm not surprised someone who can tolerate Geass enough to want more would be up for just about anything.
I hate Lalah Sune so much. She is a plot device and not an actual character 75% of the time.
>>23920345Retard.
>>23920346Thank you. I try.
>>23920345You can stop posting, Haman
Lalah smells of curry and whore. No sane man wants her. Char should marry a nice pink haired girl.
>>23920348I don't know she reminds me of Padme Amidala in Star Wars. She is just there to be a love interest to a main character, has little personality on her own, and then her death is the most important thing about her. Just a plot device whose demise is used to motivate the twisted intentions of the anti-hero vs an actual fleshed out character in her own right.
>>23920333I feel like Anno being involved doesn't help, we just got off Eva's crazy ride so people need something else to complain about when it comes to him.
>>23919690It had a large audience, pleased old jap fans, introduced people to UC, and won awards. Schizo bubble isn't real.
>>23920333Honestly I can't think of many series that have multiple universe scaled stakes info dumped into an existing plot in a show's last leg, so it seems kind of aimless to just compare the reaction people had to GQuuuuuux's ending to other Gundam AU or even the average /m/ favorite from another series.The closest comparison I can think of are the Eva rebuilds, which are even more divisive and controversial than GQuuuuuux.
>>23920333In Gundam's case it's just that there is so much to compare it to. Most shows have a show and maybe a manga or two and are lucky to ever get anything more so they are thankful for anything they get. Gundam has decades worth of content so we can be picky about our autistic tastes.
>>23920372Yeah they should've explained the mystery in the first episode and spend the rest talking about Zeon's rice grain policies.
>>23920375The mystery actually seemed very reasonable early in the series, by Gundam standards. I had no problem with it at that point. Them taking their time to reveal things was fine too. It's the actual content of the reveal that throws people off.
>>23920377>Them taking their time to reveal things was fine tooNot if the show is only 12 fucking episodes.
>>23920342i forgot but i was actually referring to the earlier Shuji-Machu conversation (the one where we see the other Char die). Shuji says that if Gcucks Char rejects the RoS Lalah than her depression will destroy the Gcucks universe and the "other side" which i'm still going to maintain is something Shuji should have no way of knowing
>>23920377>It's the actual content of the reveal that throws people off.That Lalah resets the universe because she loves Char too much? How is it any different than Lalah hunting Amuro for the rest of eternity just to tell him "Char dindu nuffin!"?>inb4 muh parallel universesStop thinking in marvel terms for a little bit. Even in Marlel the infinite universes were done in specific serializations only for a particular story and that's it, their modern obsession with it is a whole nother story.
I don't mind the Lalah dream verse stuff, but I didn't like how it was presented as if Shuji had all the agency as a villain actually resetting things, but he still barely felt present as a character.
>>23920382>>inb4 muh parallel universes>Stop thinking in marvel terms for a little bit.I was going to comment but it seems like you're just having a discussion with yourself at this point. Don't let me interrupt.
>>23920382>That Lalah resets the universe because she loves Char too much? How is it any different than Lalah hunting Amuro for the rest of eternity just to tell him "Char dindu nuffin!"?One is Amuro's penance for killing her, and the other is a contrived plot device.The best part of GQuX posting was when everyone thought Machu was an AU Haman, and this was all fanfic in Haman's head.
>>23920381Oh, yeah I don't even know if he was right about that. That might have been an assumption on his part. There's a big difference between Lalah influencing her own conjured universes and actually destroying her point of origin. And in the end she's being returned to her own world knowing full well her Char is dead.
>>23920382I was onboard with the episode 9 reveals.It was how they implemented Shuji into everything that bugged me.
>>23919690nothing, the story was over, the world was saved and at peace because the best girl became the queen
>>23920392Sayla got the best end.
>>23920391I don't disagree that they could've done a better job with him.
>>23920395>Dumps all of his political responsibilities to his sister>Avoids a psycho pink haired bitch>Paptimus would probably have bowed down to Artesia as the True Queen of the Earth Sphere>Gets to retire with his soul mateBoth siblings are happy.
>>23920408>>Paptimus would probably have bowed down to Artesia as the True Queen of the Earth Spherelmao Maybe for appearances.
>Lady Artesia, you look so stressed. Perhaps there is something I can do to help you relax? Let me offer you my services~
>>23920408Gcucks Char on a whim decides to get with the girl he's never met before and later contracted newtype gonorrhea
>>23920432Let it go Haman.
>>23919690>characters look like Pokemon rejects >Mobile Suits look shitty>Newtype theory is boiled down to talk-no-jutsu >alternate history Gundam where Zeon wins, but it's not a Gihren's Greed anime>feels less like a Universal Century story than Gundam XI fucking hate GquuuuuuX so much.
>>23920461Dumb snapshitter.
>>23919690Gundam Sola/Real Gundam will save the franchise its time to take back Gundam from the japanese fellow gamers!!
