With the anniversary of Gquuuuuux, what went wrong? Where did it all go wrong?
I liked it, more projects like this should happen more often
>>23919690Shit gag anime that doesn't take itself seriously
I feel the characters didn't really live up to the hype of the world building and setting, and I really overall just didn't care for Lalah Sune being the driving force behind EVERYTHING.
>>23919703The driving force is Char though.
>>23919707I thought Lalah was the one who created a bunch of alt universes so she could be with Char again.
>>23919690>what went wrong?Newtype bullshit
>>23919690literally nothing went wrong, it's the Turn A of this century.
>>23919710Lalah is the mcguffin, Char is the AltUC protagonist.
The problem was pretty well apparent while the show was airing. An alternate history what-if would have been good. A big tournament arc type batlle anime would have been good. Some big Eva style mutliverse thing that was about all these emotions would have been good. The problem is that those are 3 separate, distinct anime. If they had literally any chance of covering all 3 in one series it needed to be a full 50 episode run like many other entries in the franchise already are. Cramming all of that into 12 episodes was so actually retarded that everyone involved in that decision should be an instant red flag on all future projects.
>>23919690Too few episodes, tried to do too many things with the few they had, multiverse crap instead of committing to an alternate timeline and sticking to it.
>>23919737There was no brown shota trap though.
It's kind of a shame how they completely abandoned the iconic designs and art style of the original, completely basterdized the fictional science of the original to absurdity, simultaneously managed to underdevelope the new cast while making them feel out workplace in the grander narrative of the world, added in elements and references from vaguely related anime for no real reason and decided to make the ending a completely unnecessary good ending for characters that already got a good enough conclusion year prior. Even the action scenes were a downgrade to the original anime It's milking nostalgia from. I expected better from Tsurumaki, but at least the girls were cute
>>23919798>shota
>>23919692CUTE DEUX!
>>23919801>I expected better from TsurumakiSo you never watched the Rebuilds
>>23919692>DeuxKamille must have been bummed out that Deux died in this timeline.
>>23919792I'm sure production schedules overlapped and it wouldn't have been possible to take too much direct feedback but it's funny how one of the primary criticisms of WfM was that it essentially had two different premises fighting for screen time in a show shorter than usual, then the next show is half the length again and has even more shit scrambling for attention.I was watching with a friend who hadn't seen any Gundam before and it was interesting. We both lost interest near the end, them because it was just a mess of references without any real meaning on its own and me because I got the references but thought it was all stupid.
>>23919792>Eva style mutliverse thingWhat? Is this how zoomers see Eva?
>>23919798Shut up guin
>>23919690Mostly trying to do too much for a one season long show. The only real complaint I have about the show is the pacing, either more episodes or picking a focus would have done it well. And more Doo.
>>23920129You haven't seen the Rebuilds, have you?
>>23919690>couldnt decide if it wanted to be about machu or char, committed to neither>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's there>draw a child, call her a middle-aged veteran>random pedobait character instead of idk four or something (low t users will say deux is good)>amuro's fate in the alt timeline isn't discussed at all>amuro's soul is in the gquuuuuux because [???]>all the OYW suits look like ass except for a couple>gmgoog>the clan battle shit drags on, all the fights suck, it's ultimately irrelevanti could go on but i dont want to waste any more time thinking about this show
>>23920179>>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's thereTypical Newtype attraction.
>>23920179It's for the best that Four wasn't used because Deux's role was to show up for two minutes before getting killed off by Challia Bull. Like it's already bad enough that it happened to Deux but imagine a fan favorite character getting that sort of treatment.
>>23919690Should have stayed on Side 6, at least for longer.Should have stayed focused on the new characters and Chalia. It's fine for the OG cast to be involved, but they shouldn't be the focus. Needed either more length or more focus. Tried to do too much with too little, and that's coming from someone who liked the breakneck pacing. Still a pretty good show, though. Was fun, looked and sounded great, felt good to watch. >>23919792Bingo.I think doing two out of those three stories would have been fine. Exploring this alternate history setting from a ground-level perspective on Side 6 with the Clan Battle stuff could have worked well, and was at first.
too cluttered for its length.
>>23920179>amuros fate in the alt timeline isn't discussed at allI would've guessed he was the one who got the guncannon operational in the opening once the gundam wasn't an option and got himself killed off immediately.>amuros soul is in the gquuuuuuux because [???]Yeah I cant make heads or tails of that either, specifically CCA Amuro.
>>23920196Given a full run it would have been interesting to spend more time with side 6, have some clan battles in the Zaku while the gundam hunt goes on elsewhere, then converge later down the line
>>23920212You wouldn't even need a full run, the best parts of the show are already there. When I think Gqux, I think of Clan Battles and Machu and Nyaan on Side 6 with https://youtu.be/zA7Mtlrlv1I?si=2xLJ9sAGlz9o_ELi playing. I guess you'd have to get Machu to Earth, though. I dunno.
Tried to do way too much with the time it had. You're given almost no time to get to know the new characters and why you should give a shit about them before the show shoves them aside and turns into yet another Charwank production. Multiverse shit is always bad and it's bad here too.
>establishes their earth is suffering global cooling >Machu and Nyan end up by a beach for a happy end What did theu mean by this
>>23920224>Multiverse shit is always bad and it's bad here too.People who say this only found out about multiverses from capeshit movies. This shit has been around forever. Its like when people say time travel is bad because theyre too young to have seen Terminator and BttF
>>23920224Multiverse shit can work. It could have worked here too, but not in the midst of everything else. >>23920232Global cooling doesn't mean Earth instantly turns into Hoth.
>>23919690It was actually pretty good. Its main problem though was the same that plagues a lot of shows these days, it was just too short for all the ideas they put in it. It needed a full 26 episode season to do that. As it is, it was paced way too fast and didn't have enough time to breath or explore most of its concepts.
>>23920239Yeah even during the ice age it was still hot as balls at the equator.
>>23920179>machu and nyaan randomly obsessed with shuji, no chemistry shown but the show keeps insisting it's thereYou didn't grow up with teenage sisters, did you? That whole shit was incredibly realistically written.
Shuji could have been fleshed out more, I know they were going with the whole Lalah angle like in 0079, but Lalah had more scenes focused on her in 0079
The whole story just being the result of Shuji simulating the murder of his unrequited love over and over again didn't sit well with me. I mean I guess it's believable as an act of passion from a newtype who's far enough gone, but it just doesn't feel connected with the show's premise. Didn't help that despite being such an inciting event, we don't even know how Shuji knows Lalah, and shortly after we are explained how madly in love he is with Lalah, we are supposed to accept him and Machu as being a thing.
>>23920267You are thinking of relationships and feelings as Wiki entries.
>>23920278What an inhuman response. What does that even mean?
A lot of cool ideas that just didn't feel connected.Like I enjoyed Challia Bull's depiction for most the show. And it kind of feels like his big scene that culminates between him and Machu is him telling his story of nearly committing suicide, and giving his gun to Machu as a sentimental symbol to keep going but... Machu is never really depicted as encountering that kind of challenge at all or having to climb up from that kind of low and it's literally just a gun to her.Great set up. Meh payoff. A lot of the show was like this.
>>23920278>Shuji is underwritten.>something something Wiki entries ???
The entire conversation between Machu and Shuji at the end is so stupidHow does Shuji know that the entire universe is going to be destroyed? is he making that shit up?Why does he suddenly love Lalah?Why is Machu soapboxing that "real" newtypes are mentally strong when the entire point of them in UC is that they're still humanly fallible but with exploitable abilities?
>>23920320The actual scene where she uses the gun is wierd. She hypes herself up, does an epic sceen, unlocks the Omega Psychommu but all she does is unplug a cable
It's strange to me how some fanbases are more forgiving of a shows flaws than others. Like AU fans and Geass fans eat that shit up, but a lot of people on /m/ are really critical of anything UC.
>>23920331I don't like the Shuji stuff either, but it's implied he's been doing this over and over. So he knows the universe will reset because he's done this before. And he's not suddenly in love with Lalah, he's been in love with her since before the cycles began.Now this does call to attention that we don't know what started this relationship, if it's one sided, or if Lalah even knew the guy. It's also hard to imagine how Shuji first discovered "killing" Lalah doesn't actually kill her, it just resets the dream. Like... At some point he would have had to been inclined to try and kill her without knowing it wouldn't kill her for real.
>>23920333I'm not surprised someone who can tolerate Geass enough to want more would be up for just about anything.
I hate Lalah Sune so much. She is a plot device and not an actual character 75% of the time.
>>23920345Retard.
>>23920346Thank you. I try.
>>23920345You can stop posting, Haman
Lalah smells of curry and whore. No sane man wants her. Char should marry a nice pink haired girl.
>>23920348I don't know she reminds me of Padme Amidala in Star Wars. She is just there to be a love interest to a main character, has little personality on her own, and then her death is the most important thing about her. Just a plot device whose demise is used to motivate the twisted intentions of the anti-hero vs an actual fleshed out character in her own right.
>>23920333I feel like Anno being involved doesn't help, we just got off Eva's crazy ride so people need something else to complain about when it comes to him.
>>23919690It had a large audience, pleased old jap fans, introduced people to UC, and won awards. Schizo bubble isn't real.
>>23920333Honestly I can't think of many series that have multiple universe scaled stakes info dumped into an existing plot in a show's last leg, so it seems kind of aimless to just compare the reaction people had to GQuuuuuux's ending to other Gundam AU or even the average /m/ favorite from another series.The closest comparison I can think of are the Eva rebuilds, which are even more divisive and controversial than GQuuuuuux.
>>23920333In Gundam's case it's just that there is so much to compare it to. Most shows have a show and maybe a manga or two and are lucky to ever get anything more so they are thankful for anything they get. Gundam has decades worth of content so we can be picky about our autistic tastes.
>>23920372Yeah they should've explained the mystery in the first episode and spend the rest talking about Zeon's rice grain policies.
>>23920375The mystery actually seemed very reasonable early in the series, by Gundam standards. I had no problem with it at that point. Them taking their time to reveal things was fine too. It's the actual content of the reveal that throws people off.
>>23920377>Them taking their time to reveal things was fine tooNot if the show is only 12 fucking episodes.
>>23920342i forgot but i was actually referring to the earlier Shuji-Machu conversation (the one where we see the other Char die). Shuji says that if Gcucks Char rejects the RoS Lalah than her depression will destroy the Gcucks universe and the "other side" which i'm still going to maintain is something Shuji should have no way of knowing
>>23920377>It's the actual content of the reveal that throws people off.That Lalah resets the universe because she loves Char too much? How is it any different than Lalah hunting Amuro for the rest of eternity just to tell him "Char dindu nuffin!"?>inb4 muh parallel universesStop thinking in marvel terms for a little bit. Even in Marlel the infinite universes were done in specific serializations only for a particular story and that's it, their modern obsession with it is a whole nother story.
I don't mind the Lalah dream verse stuff, but I didn't like how it was presented as if Shuji had all the agency as a villain actually resetting things, but he still barely felt present as a character.
>>23920382>>inb4 muh parallel universes>Stop thinking in marvel terms for a little bit.I was going to comment but it seems like you're just having a discussion with yourself at this point. Don't let me interrupt.
>>23920382>That Lalah resets the universe because she loves Char too much? How is it any different than Lalah hunting Amuro for the rest of eternity just to tell him "Char dindu nuffin!"?One is Amuro's penance for killing her, and the other is a contrived plot device.The best part of GQuX posting was when everyone thought Machu was an AU Haman, and this was all fanfic in Haman's head.
>>23920381Oh, yeah I don't even know if he was right about that. That might have been an assumption on his part. There's a big difference between Lalah influencing her own conjured universes and actually destroying her point of origin. And in the end she's being returned to her own world knowing full well her Char is dead.
>>23920382I was onboard with the episode 9 reveals.It was how they implemented Shuji into everything that bugged me.
>>23919690nothing, the story was over, the world was saved and at peace because the best girl became the queen
>>23920391I don't disagree that they could've done a better job with him.
>>23920395>Dumps all of his political responsibilities to his sister>Avoids a psycho pink haired bitch>Paptimus would probably have bowed down to Artesia as the True Queen of the Earth Sphere>Gets to retire with his soul mateBoth siblings are happy.
>>23920408>>Paptimus would probably have bowed down to Artesia as the True Queen of the Earth Spherelmao Maybe for appearances.
>Lady Artesia, you look so stressed. Perhaps there is something I can do to help you relax? Let me offer you my services~
>>23920408Gcucks Char on a whim decides to get with the girl he's never met before and later contracted newtype gonorrhea
>>23920432Let it go Haman.
>>23919690>characters look like Pokemon rejects >Mobile Suits look shitty>Newtype theory is boiled down to talk-no-jutsu >alternate history Gundam where Zeon wins, but it's not a Gihren's Greed anime>feels less like a Universal Century story than Gundam XI fucking hate GquuuuuuX so much.
>>23920461Dumb snapshitter.
>>23919690Gundam Sola/Real Gundam will save the franchise its time to take back Gundam from the japanese fellow gamers!!
>>23920375Why is that such a bad thing?They still haven't explained if people in the Earth Sphere have voting rights.
>>23920847It's just why do people write stories, and what kind of stories do they want to tell.
>>23920909I don't know. I've never read Thunderbolt. Isn't that an alt timeline?
>>23920913Shut the fuck up DuelWhy the fuck do I have a 10 minute time limit on deleting posts
>>23920917So do you think The Lord of the Rings has bad writing because they never talk about Aragon's tax policy? What is your idea of good writing? Just worldbuilding?
>>23920919Shut the fuck up Duel, why the fuck haven't you been permabanned
>>23919690Stop being so dramatic. Its only major issue is that its too short and too much time is eaten up by the clan battle stuff early on. Otherwise its a perfectly fine standalone AU story.
>>23920461>characters look like Pokemon rejectsThey look better than modern pokemon character designs though.
>>23921018nta but it's literally the woman who did the sword/shield and scarlet/violet designs
>>23921350Retard.
>>23919690Helpful 4channel Reminder. If youhate gcucks Buy Gundam Sola/RG to showthe libs who is boss!!
>>23921350Yes, that's the point. They look better than pokemon designs because the artist isn't forced to make them lame and gay like they are with modern pokemon.
>>23920179>>23920210In one of the last two episodes Chalia Bull talks about how the Omega Psycommu system in the GQuuuuuuX and GFreD was built using OOParts, which were Newtype artifacts/debris from Zeknovas of different timelines. They pretty much heavily imply that this is why Amuros voice comes through the GQuuuuuuX in the final episode.At the time I figured this was to say that at least part of Amuros soul or consciousness or w/e was trapped in the psychoframe following the Axis Shock in CCA and that those parts ended up in this GQuX universe.This may have even been in the same episode as when they ended with Beyond the Time as the outro song
>>23920210The Gundam 01 is the one that fights reusing a bunch of Amuro's moves from the original series.
>>23922038>This may have even been in the same episode as when they ended with Beyond the Time as the outro songI still can't believe that wasn't actually Amuro. Like what the fucking fuck, how do you do that and then NOT have it be Amuro? >>23922052Wait, what?
>>23922052Libtard propaganda
>>23922052Yeah i really don't know what the hell they were smoking in that room when they made that decision.I thought at the very least it was going to be some Narrative type shit where we got the RX-78-2 or Nu piloted by Amuro's Newtype autistic ghost
>>23919690Many reasons:-shuji not having a character-machu not having any growthjust to name a few.
>>23920255we're still in an ice age geologically
I wonder how many parallel universes Kamille created
>>23920342>At some point he would have had to been inclined to try and kill her without knowing it wouldn't kill her for real.An episode about Shuji's first encounter with Lalah and seeing her die would've definitely been essential. The way they just dump this dynamic on you as exposition at the end of the show was so ineffective. Even a half-episode flashback would've been more appropriate.
>>23922642I think it would have bugged me less if he was a KAMILLE_ and the whole Lalah thing was something he picked up from Char, like, "I can fix him, by getting him her"it would have been weird and arbitrary but it at least would have connected to anything
I thought it was decent till the very end, but essentially saying we never really knew Shuji (how much of his characterization was an act?), and then saying whole setting revolves around him choosing to reset the universe over and over, was a real one-two punch of disappointment.I liked it more when I interpreted the info dump in episode 9 as Lalah herself subconsciously resetting the universe after a certain point of not being satisfied with the outcomes it brought. Because at least Lalah is already part of UC as we know it. Having Shuji yoink all the agency away from her, without really explaining who he is, or who he is to Lalah, feels like a mistake.
>>23919690Personally, I think the Battle Clan completely pointless. I feel like it should be better if the main cast are the runaways from the Zeon with the Red Gundam & Gquuuux and on their way to earth. Change the Pomeranians to be junk collectors who also want to go to earth and Machuu, Shuji & Nyann hitching a ride with them while Zeon tailing them
>>23919690I loved it from beginning to end. No issues whatsoever.
>>23923032>I liked it more when I interpreted the info dump in episode 9 as Lalah herself subconsciously resetting the universe after a certain point of not being satisfied with the outcomes it brought.My eyes were kinda glazing over in the last episode, but was that not the case?
>>23923425sure but then why can't they just reset this universe immediately if it didn't turn out right?was every new universe ended by sending a gundam through a portal to kill it?I don't think they really have answers to that and I don't think they cared about that, they'd just rather tell what they thought was a story
>>23923512You didn't pay attention to what is a really retarded gundam show.
>>23923517you need to clown on me now by telling me why, I promise I won't try to refute it because honestly I just would rather not bother to argue at this point
>>23923559He's gonna get you with the helpful and obligatory>Retard.non-response, which crowns him as a genius and the victor!
>>23919690It's not Shin Gundam.
>>23919690>what went wrong? Where did it all go wrong?After ep 3 with all 3 main characters having no real relationships between them. Machu and Nyan aren't friends, both girls have 1-sided crushed on Shuji, and Shuji doesn't care about either of them.
I finished all of GQuX, but dropped Witch. Am I retarded?
>>23923849If you're the same person that keeps posting in every thread possible about having dropped witch, then yes. Deeply and terminally.
>>23923849You have incredibly good taste.
>>23923849No, I did the same thing.
>>23923849Yes
If Gquuuuuux didn't have member berries and wasn't connected to UC while keeping the same plot beats, people would be calling it trash.
>>23924098>wasn't connected to UC while keeping the same plot beatsThe plot beats that intimately connect it to UC?
>>23919690Wasn't long enough. Needed 12 episodes of the arena fighting and building the world. Then another 12 after the character schism leading into the main final conflict.
>>23922038I never got the multiple zeknovas from different timelines part. I assumed the one that char vanished into until he got better offscreen was the only one and it's how the elmeth showed up.
>>23920179>random pedobait character instead of idk four or something (low t users will say deux is good)I am 100% confident that they didn't use Four or Rosamia because killing one of them off like that would've caused exceptionally more butthurt than the show was already generating.
>>23922038>we could've had the weird red thing inside Gfreds head be Sazabi escape pod>we could've had the weaponised zeknovas be from Lalah getting psychic visions of his corpse lying insideBut most importantly>we could've had ghost Amuro and ghost Char teamup instead of Gfred just getting punked
>>23920233>People who say this only found out about multiverses from capeshit movies. This shit has been around forever.It's probably more accurate to say multiverse shit became bad when it started to show up in normieville slop because all of the little nuances that would otherwise make it interesting get completely lost when dumbed down. It's less multiverse and more things like stupid alternative history or isekai worlds.
>>23924232They didn't use them because it didn't make sense.
>>23924243GQux is well beyond caring about making sense. Literally the only time we see Gates Capa in Zeta is when he's wrangling Rosamia in Psycho MKII. The role is pretty much made to put Rosamia there but they don't because of nebulous nostalgia reasons.
>>23924252>I don't get it so I don't like it so I say they didn't know what they were doing
>>23923425It seems that way at first but Shuji's dialogue implies he's been resetting the universe manually by "killing" Lalah several times at that point.
>>23924259Yes, that's correct. I know better than the dipshits who wrote GQux. Everyone here knows better than the dipshits who wrote GQux.
>>23919690I never understood the Shuji Char connection. How did Shuji get the Red Gundam?
>>23924323Never explained.
>>23920146very nice n progressive.>>23919690>wrongnot enough Charizzard. too much of the same gay meme from wiccan of mercury.
Tried to do way too much in the time it had. Either it should have been 24 episodes, or focused entirely on clan battles or the alt UC story.
>>23919690Having a mc with zero growth.
>>23919690Not enough scenes of machu, nyaan and shuji pleasuring ojisans.
>>23924323Char and the Red Gundam ended up in Shuji's universe somehow, who kept the Gundam and went to GQux universe. How Char got back we may never know, and yes this also implies that the entirety of Solomon got isekai'd instead of murdered.
>>23919690everything, literally everything was wrongMachu is the worst gundam MC of all time, she has less going for her than Hayatothat being said, Deux a cute
>>23924323Char briefly mentions>Hey i know that kidAnd that's pretty much all you get.
>>23925712>Machu is the worst gundam MC of all timeYou clearly haven't seen SEED
>>23925817Kira has more going for him in the first 12 episodes of SEED alone
>>23925899>SEEDfags really believe this
>>23925872Mira is at least 2/5ths of an interesting cbaracter. Machu is a badly written rebellious teen with a non-existent romantic relationship and a friendship that only exists in the ED.Kira's character went to shit after before got blown up. Machu stops being an interesting character after episode 1, and that's not getting into his much the plot contorts itself around her like she's on some UC themed roller coaster where strangely has to interact with anyhing
>>23919690>Where did it all go wrong?They forgot to think of an ending
>>23919690right from the start the entire premise was just flawed
>>23926949Machus motivation in the first episode seems less rebellious teen and more suicidal maniac. >I'm bored, life on the colony is too fake>guess I should blackmail a smuggler and force my way into an arms deal>oh shit the gang has and illegal war mech and are pointing guns at me, these are my new friends>the cops are here, better steal the illegal mech and kill the fucking cops>shit, despite somehow knowing how to pilot the mech, I'm shit and my stolen mech was damaged. Wait is that a double illegal prototype mech? Mine now>NOW I can kill those cops!
>>23919690machu was a boring character and the illegal but also broadcasted mech battles were retarded and wasted timenyan should have been the main character, deliver something to a deal gone wrong, steal the prototype to excape, get spotted by Xavier and been off to zeon by episode 2 at the latest to actually show us what zeon victory postwar would look like
>>23919690>what went wrong?Not enough Nyaan
>>23919690I simply dont want to watch little girls lust after a hobo in the horrible pokemon art style and nothings gonna change that
>>23919690The technology in this universe irritates me.>Zeon: We ditched all of our bespoke designs for a Gundam-like MS we put together in two weeks!>Except the Gyan because...just because, ok???>Also the Hambrabi can't transform because magnetic coating was never standardized>Pay no attention to the transforming Kikeroga we just pulled out of our asses
>>23928226>Pay no attention to the transforming Kikeroga we just pulled out of our assesBecause the show is zeonwank.
>>23928226>Except the Gyan because...just because, ok???Even in the original setting it was a competing design to the Gelgoog. It's just the Gelgoog and its successors that got thrown away and replaced by Gundam derivatives.>Also the Hambrabi can't transform because magnetic coating was never standardized>Pay no attention to the transforming Kikeroga we just pulled out of our assesFederation tech vs Zeon tech. It's also still two years before the actual debut date of the mainline UC Hambrabi.
>>23928338>>23928226Hambrabi still transforms, but because it lacks magnetic coating, the transformation is only meant to be used for long distance travel rather than anytime in combat since the transformation takes longer without magnetic coating.Kikeroga doesn't really transform between modes on the fly in battle either, Challia only transformed that ONE time because it was necessary to catch the GQuuuuuuX.
>>23928331Close, it's actually Challia wankMy favourite Challia wank was him killing most of the newtype corps offscreen and then slaughtering the remaining handful in seconds while he said "newtype corps... forgive me... you were so strong..."
>>23928399I was really not okay with that.
>>23919737I don't hate gcucks, but THIS? This is heresy. Turn A was incredible. Gcucks is mediocre with a couple neat things and a couple of terrible things.This level of blatant insult to turn A is almost as bad as defending the eureka 7 sequel.
>>23928361Kikeroga transformation was a post 0080 modification.
>>23928593>t.
>>23919690Having Shuji be the love intrest.
>>23919690Gquuux more like Gcucks lmaoooo
>>23929895Based Machu
I don't even dislike it but Char and Lalah as a pairing feels kind of like a psyop
>>23931955You lost Haman.
>>23920179>all the OYW suits look like ass except for a coupleThe only ones that don't look good are Gundam, Gimgoog and Zaku. Zaku is not even that bad, though, and Gimgoog is fun from lore perspective and did well with what it had to work with as a base. The rest are all upgrades desu. Gyan in particular. GQ and Fred are by FAR the worst mechs in the show, even with red Gundam being remarkably ass.
>>23929895Machu was never the same after her stint at the brothel huh?
>>23932201Don't dunk on Fred.
>>23919690This was a shit anime with horrible mech designs and shallow unlikeable characters. Modern Gundam has just devolved into straight up garbage and has forgone what made Gundam great in an attempt to appeal to the modern audience.
>>23928612>anon accidentally doxxed himself
>>23932279But this was made by people who watched and loved the original. They know what made gundam great, they were there.
>>23929895That's wrong, Machu should be freaking out and shoving Nian away from Shuji.
>>23933420Bot-ass bump. Yes, people notice when you do it to every fucking thread at once.
>>23933429You seem more like a bot.
>>23933429Good to know you didn't watch the show.
A heavy problem it has is it's a victim of how production cycles for things take so damned long nowIt came out in 2025 but you can tell they started working on it in 2018, because that's how far you have to go back for multiverse stuff to not be completely done to death, trite slop(also awful writing and indefensibly bad mecha design)
>>23932316Watching a great F1 race does not impart the skills necessary to drive in one, and when people try to emulate it without skill, talent or luck they tend to slam into a wall at high speed.
>>23937096I'm sure you thought this was a compelling argument.
>>23937106Do you not understand simple metaphor? It's literally just a basic demonstration of how there is no sense in the post I replied to. Are you actually retarded? You can't honestly believe "they saw gundam and liked it so they can make something just as good" is a logical claim.
>>23937108>metaphor
>>23937106He probably did, because it is a solid analogy. Enjoying something has little impact on being able to execute it yourself.
>>23919690very very confused mecha tribute anime that was for some reason called gundam just to annoy people even more and throw away any good will towards this project
>>23937120It's a false equivalence.
>>23937156The only substantially inequivalent part is that F1 cars fail much more spectacularly. Liking a thing doesn't translate into doing it well with any certainty. Lots of writers love good stories, but their own are shallow and derivative garbage. Plenty of actors were in great films and enjoyed other fantastic ones and they try to make something and it's a dumpster fire.
>>23937168None of that applies to the way GQuuuuuuX came to be.
>>23937135The lesson is don't let fans make official work.
>>23938451Bot post.
>>23937135>very very confused mecha tribute anime that was for some reason called gundamhow do you function in day to day life while being this retarded?
>>23937135like all fan fiction? like all annoslop?
>>23919690>what went wrong?the same thing that goes wrong with all fan fictionpeople who claim to love something also believe they are smarter and can do it better than the original creatorsthey obviously are not and end up making trash
>>23919690Aside from them just not giving a shit about the ending at all lmao, the problem with it is that it never truly committed to either concept about alternate realities and the girl drama over the two main girls fighting over an autistic boy and also the fighting competition thing. To many concepts crammed into one and not enough time to appreciate them. Also, ultimately, we end up just caring about the Alt-UC characters more than the new characters. We probably shoulda just ended up with just Machu being the only new character and the rest are known characters. In the end I think what is most damning is that for a theoretical S2, I want to know what's going on with Char and I want Amuro to show up. I want to see the earth go full Titans mode. I don't really care what's going on with Machu and the other girl and their Gundams. I also think a lot of people generally agree with me
>>23942766>In the end I think what is most damning is that for a theoretical S2, I want to know what's going on with Char and I want Amuro to show up. I want to see the earth go full Titans mode. I don't really care what's going on with Machu and the other girl and their Gundams. I also think a lot of people generally agree with meNo, for me, the show lost too much of my goodwill for me to trust them with Char and Amuro, I want those two to just be left alone and untarnished
>>23942722I'm really glad she didn't die. Sure felt like she would for awhile. >>23942766Char got his good ending. Zabis are dead, he's with Lalah, his sister's on the throne, he doesn't have a rivalry with Amuro to obsess over. There's nothing left for him to do, nor should there be. Earth striking back could be interesting. Zeon's in terrible shape by the end of the show, there's an opportunity there. Could combine that with Amuro showing up, he's an evil Titans asshole on this timeline or something. Machu and Nyaan are wonderful and I want more of them. If there's a Gqux 2 that doesn't include them then fuck that.
>>23943266>Amuro showing up, he's an evil Titans asshole on this timeline or somethingThat'd go against the themes of the show. Now Kai...
>>23920364>It had a large audience, pleased old jap fans, introduced people to UCAll speculation, you assume those things are true but its not provable.>won awardsAwards are 100% meaningless. They are just premium-sub advertisment.
>>23943287Holy cope.
>>23921499>look better than pokemon designs because the artist isn't forced to make them lame and gayThen why did she do it again anyway?
>>23942722>>23943266G Fred was her only true friend….
>>23943320Machu is her friend. Yes, I know the show didn't do a good job of showing that. Still friends.
>>23943266>Shiro & the 08th MS Team, Christina, Kou & Keith are the Titans
>>23943323>the show didn't do a good job of showing thatFtfy, sadly
>>23943323Glad they at least they made up in the end
>>23919737can't tell if you're saying Gquuuux is good or Turn A is bad
>>23943266Gcucksverse Char ending him with Lalah is fucking stupid.On the one side there's a delusional woman raised in a brothel attracted to the vague concept of a guy because an alternate version of him saved an alternate version of herOn the other side there's a Char who finally got done with his vengeance who decides to settle down with a woman he has no emotional connection to and who's alternate universe version has been a walking WMD threatening him for the last few years because the writers wanted a CharxLalah happy ending that wasn't really necessary and goes against the point of the original series
>>23943384kek imagine being this much of a moron
>>23943339?>>23943341Yeah, that was good. Gqux does a lot of good stuff, it's just so curtailed that none of it has any time to breathe.
>>23943406Oop, I meant>the show didn't do a good jobFixed that for me, but also still sadly, I wish this show was good
>>23943266>Amuro showing upNah, he died in the Guncannon in Ep2.
>>23943323>Machu is her friend.She's not.
>>23943438It's good. Could have been better, lot of problems, but good.>>23943519Is too.
>>23943547>It's good.It's really not.
it was the definition of a nothingburger. I expected way better.
>>23943547>It's good. Could have been better, lot of problems, but good.I don't think it was anon...>the highlights are stuff that it sort of forgot about>or it pointing to a better show>the two girls learn nothing after their newtype bullshit, generally such connections from the shows that the creators apparently loved would end in tragic disaster or at least some bittersweet enmity, but instead both characters get little to no development, and their happy ending doesn't feel earned at all, feeling like it was only doled out to them for the sake of being survivors and cute girls>said newtype bullshit is also only about muh kira-kira and magical psychic powers, with actual human understanding and communication being an afterthought, if it was even there at allThe characters and animation were pretty though
>>23943565>it was the definition of a nothingburgerNow this is pretty contrarian.
>>23943547>It's goodfor little girls (or trannies pretending to be them) who enjoy pokeslop stories about teen angst
>>23943614All true. But it was also very fun. Looked great, sounded great, characters were fun, alternate history stuff was neat, it just felt good to watch until maybe the very last episode. That's a win in my book.
>>23943614>>said newtype bullshit is also only about muh kira-kira and magical psychic powers, with actual human understanding and communication being an afterthought, if it was even there at allRewatch episode 4.
>>23943811>characters were funNone of them were good besides maybe Nyaan getting groomed by Kycillia. All the original characters were lifeless and all the legacy characters are reliant on being legacy characters.The exception being Challia bull was written by taking his novel version then turning it into a cheap self insert>alternate history stuff was neatUnderutilised, discarded, everything major ends up the same anyway right down to kycillia's death except for Sayla's plotline which might've been interesting if it didn't happen 99% offscreen>until maybe the very last episode.The cracks started showing as soon as the episode with the big tiddy fed pilot
>>23943391Do you need a particularly potent mind to like a trashy poorly written fanfic with no consistency with the original gundam show or even its own writing?
>>23943630it's a nothingburger to the consoomfags who wanted "marvel what if" but for gundam
>>23943291The witch thread is two blocks down bro, I can get not liking gquux as a show but the character designs are anything but gay.
>>23920364none of this is real, it underperformed, had horrible reception, didnt move kits or other merch for that matter, and is now forgotten and abandoned
>>23943973I didn't even like GQuX that much, but I finished it. I didn't hate it and drop it like I did Witch, or find it boring and drop like I did 00. I am surprised people dislike it this much when it was just mediocre.
