>>23921380
Mommy

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Do you think they'll finally lift the pilot-locks on SEED suits next game? Athrun is perfectly capable of using the SF in SEED Freedom

>>23921391
No. It will just be event only.

More people should go back and play the 2000s SRWs.
There's too much misinformation on how people heard on /m/ from a guy who was on a japanese board about how D, AP, K, Impact, Compact Color, etc were all unfair and impossible and that game of telephone has been infecting discussions to this day.
Holy fuck I've seen people say OGs or even J are hard.

>>23921405
Is it a classic case of not reading, not understanding, not thinking, not testing things out?

Attack on Titan will be in the next SRW but it will be a Post Series Eren DLC unit through a dimensional quake and he'll become a Godannar character instead

>>23921405
>D
The difficulty is mostly in the early game. If you use your BP properly and optionally the Sound Force it becomes more tolerable.
>AP
EN/Weapons, learn to use support attack and distribute pilot parts properly. Annoyingly limiting up to the end of the 1st split when it comes to beating retreating bosses, but its pretty tolerable afterwards.
>Compact Color
Difficulty changes heavily depending on stage routing and your birthday. Just make it your business to teach as many pilots as possible Concentrate and one of Hit/Crit/SP+.
>Impact
Earth Crisis is way harder that the other two acts and this happens to be the introductory one. Its a lot like Radiant Dawn where having knowledge of unit availability can make or break your run. Its also really important to realize that there's nothing wrong with upgrading units that won't make it into your final team (barring Gandor, Dunbine ships and Gato since they leave permanently).

>>23921405
The last two case are just contrarian newfags.

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The Gundam Wing/Code Geass crossover manga starts in July

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35 years old this year.

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https://twitter.com/SUNRISE_web/status/2070341278907179247
Describe this mecha.

>>23921479
My favorite.

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>>23921479
Bad ass ecksbaux hueg clober king super that punches and kicks bad guys do death across the galaxy and his show is p.wild.

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>>23921380
>Compatible Kaiser

Neat.

>>23921384
For your own good, anon. Don't.
The health drink ...

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>>23921384
>>23921564

>>23921566
And motherfucker asked for SECONDS
Van is built different

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>>23921569

>>23921509
MAN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3_y1XDDKB4&t=1080s

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If you like Ryukooh more than Koryuoh, you are not and never will be my nigga.

>>23921610
I like Koryuoh more than Ryukooh.

>>23921479
It got referenced in Deltarune
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M95QRjlDNNk&pp=ygUPaWRlb24gZGVsdGFydW5l

>>23921610
Okay NPC.

>>23921610
Does Ryukooh need some setup or specific build to git gud? It always feels awkward to use for some reason and Koryuoh just works.

>>23921375
where's the Z full script? (also I'm assuming full=story and not actually full, but maybe I'm wrong)

>>23921405
I heard J was annoying

>>23921672
RyuKoOh is mostly a ranged wizard, KoRyuOh is a non-nonsense brawler. Guess the latter works for you because you just want to get close to a enemy and punch it to death, simple as.

>>23921675
>AI completely ignoring you if you are too dodgy
>almost every single fucking map having reinforcements drop in on the other end of the map when you are done with the initial enemies
It is. Still my favourite, though. Love me that Granteed. Love me that Touya and the girls.

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>>23921676
>just want to get close to a enemy and punch it to death
That is my ideal state of being.

>>23921674
I think you were given bad information. Either he confused Z1 for Z2-1, or he didn't know the Z1 LP wasn't half-MNeidengard copypastes.

>>23921672
>>23921676
RKO is a generic melee attacker. RKO needs to build morale for decent P moves because OG deleted the ones that it had from Alpha for some reason.
If you teach H&A to Kusuha or pair it up with something like the SRX, you'd be surprised at how good they are at cleaning up trash.

IIRC OG2 and OGs also put Gekirindan on the wrong upgrade tier, so it was better to turn Kusuha into a SP Up/Concentrate/SP Regen battery while Bullet learned Attacker/Support Attack/Assist Attack to abuse his finisher's cheap EN cost. OGG fixed Gekirindan's damage output and then from OG2nd onwards, RKO is the better machine.

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>>23921694

>>23921695
>>23921674
https://lparchive.org/Super-Robot-Wars-Z/
https://lparchive.org/Super-Robot-Wars-Z2-Destruction/
Z1 and Hakai have had lps for ages. I dont think anyone did anything of that level for Saisei onwards.

>>23921700
an LP is quite far from a full script

>>23921700
The anon from last thread was boasting of a full script translation. I just disproved that point and here you are presenting it anyways.

>>23921695
>he didn't know the Z1 LP wasn't half-MNeidengard copypastes.
also did you mean was or wasn't

>Galient ended in March 1985
>Layzner started in October '85
What was airing between Galient and Layzner?

>>23921708
Was. He probably didn't know Z1 was half-Mneidengard copypastes.
Sorry for the botched grammar.

>>23921712
Your proof being?

>>23921714
Shut the fuck up Duel

>>23921716
I'm not in the mood for your fucking Duel bullshit. Go suck off your boogieman elsewhere. If you're going to claim that Brunom's lp is full of mneidengard copy pastes, then I'd at least like a few examples where it did happen.

Bullet here.

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>>23921719

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https://twitter.com/candytoy_c/status/2070457055266426955
SMP's 10th anniversary.

>>23921719
>I'm not in the mood for your fucking Duel bullshit
>replies anyways

>>23921726
Its utterly asinine that duel and duelrager still exist in this general. What the fuck are the mods doing?

>>23921730
>duelrager
Not a thing newfag.

https://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/work/news.php?id=23794

>>23921712
>What was airing between Galient and Layzner?
/m/ TV anime? Zeta Gundam, Dancouga and the original Transformers, but while both Galient and Layzner aired on Nippon TV 17:30 - 18:00 time slot, Layzner aired on thursdays while Galient aired on fridays.

>>23921706
If they were truly that bad or offbase, then I'm sure that people would be jumping at the chance to correct them instead of doing scripts for games like NEO, 64, R, D, BX, K, Compact 3, Impact and even fucking Shin.
Definitely not a full script, but its good enough to understand what's going on.

>>23921733
You should both kill yourselves right now.

>>23921735
>Layzner aired on thursdays while Galient aired on fridays.
Oh. Assumed that each Takahashi show was immediately replaced with the next. Thanks.

>>23921675
The only things I found annoying were that enemies ignore your unit with too much evade, and the final Zeorymer map has a nasty setup where you have to kill the bosses in a certain order or else you get half your team nuked with a strike+valor map attack, and if you try to kill them all ilat the same time, the others will just survive, fullheal, and buff up regardless after the first one explodes.

>>23921764
You need like ~170ish mobility for the M Sized units but its very much and annoyingly possible for the S Sized units to get hit by the enemies won't target them problem.
Earth/Mountain/Thunder do the same thing on both of their stages IIRC. I do agree that its annoying considering that J only caps out at +1000/1100/1250 at 10 bars to "compensate" for 20 upgrade mode.

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Which Sunrise World team will you join?

>>23921774
I'll take Kamille, Daba, Show and Suzaku

>>23921774
Has anyone here played any of the Sunrise games, what were they like?

https://zip.2chan.net/2/res/1811650.htm

I love Gato

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is she gonna be ok

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>>23921817
ANON DON'T DO IT
THINK ABOUT THE MORAL DILEMMA
THEY'RE INNOCENT CHILDREN

>>23921816
I hate Gato.

>>23921822
I hate you

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>>23921817
Only one way to find out.

>>23921820
>>23921817
Its A/AP. You kill every single secret unit that you aren't going to use because the rewards are better. Kirika is the most notorious one since she drops a Giga Generator.

>>23921830
In the cast of Four and Rosamia, aren't you only able to save one of them and have to let the other die?

>>23921840
Yes and Four is better in both versions.

always remove secrets like you remove ZAFT and Vagan

>>23921842
I think of any reason to save Rosamia over Four anyway.

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>>23921816

>>23921672
Make Kusuha a support attacker and she won't even need Hit&Run
Swap to RyuKoOh at the start of a turn for a bunch of supports if anything is still nearby then go back to moving and attacking with KoRyuOh
Hell make Bullet a support attacker too, I think he has it by default in all of OG

>>23921867
I usually do what the other anon said and stack all the SP skills on Kusuha and atk support on Burrito, despite his short range you can set him up to atk support and still do his own offensive job thanks to Kusuha's Zeal spam.

>>23921867
TK, SP Up, SP Regen, Concentrate and then two free slots. Attacker and H&A/Support Defend can go here depending on her partner.
Bullet already natively gets Infight 8, so its way easier to build him as the damage dealer. Kusuha will have to wait on 2nd OG before she becomes relevant as an offensive lead for bosses.

>>23921696
RKO is categorized as ranged in OGs, you're definitely meant to spam magma vassal in that game

>from 2nd og onwards RKO is the better machine
I don't know about that. They nerfed magma vassal changing it to 3-9 from 1-8 (though it's now cheaper) and hazanken is as expensive as ever. Meanwhile KRO gets a new ALL ranged attack to compensate its weakness. However tyrant overbreak has B sky and KRO has weaker platoon attack so you still want to use RKO for maximum break.

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So cute and adorable

>>23921473
Will this mean Wing Zero Rebellion can appear in SRW outside of DD

>>23921886
Yes, RKO is classed as ranged but its attacks primarily run off Kusuha's melee stat. In any case, you mainly use the ranged moves for counters and the melee moves for movement.
KRO has a weaker all and 2nd OG loves its water maps.

>>23921896
I think at best it could be a DLC unit.

>>23921473
>>23921896
Can Heero and Lelouch get a combo attack even if he doesn't get WZR?

There's apparently an OGG English patch now.
https://github.com/camd11/srw-og-gaiden-en

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Are Super Robot Wars 3, GC, Alpha Gaiden or Y bad starting points to get into the series? All the other recommended ones I see online mostly feature series I don't know so I'm not sure about starting with those.

Purus for attention

>>23921961
I started with Alpha 3 without know shit of japanese and did well, you'll be fine starting with Alpha Gaiden or Y.

>>23921951
>AI slop
no thanks

>>23921961
3's main issue is it suffers from early game jankiness (like how you can miss a character because you beat the stage too quickly), but personally I don't think it's a bad game and can be over quickly compared to more recent games
GC has a few unique things to itself which may seem weird as your first SRW since they'll never appear again
Alpha Gaiden is a perfectly fine game, the only issue is it's a sequel to another game and the story reminds you of this basically every chapter for the first 10 chapters, but the real story starts after that so it's not really a big problem for me and it still gives you a good idea of what SRW games are
Y free form structure is also different from other SRW, and the game is very long as a result, but I honestly enjoyed it and it also gives a good idea of what SRW usually are

Has there ever been an example where one MC's upgrade is so much better than the other as shown by Kogetsu > Kaguya?

>MC Cross is better and more fun than MC Forte
>post upgrade Cross is even better
>Kogetsu's finisher is way cooler than Kaguya's

>>23921825
I love you.

>>23921564
>>23921566
I am a champion

>>23921989
Garmraid Blaze is so much better than Cerberus Ignite. In their original form they have their own strength and weakness, but after the upgrade they basically turn into the same unit except Ignite has weaker weapon and worse minimum range for its long ranged form.

>>23922050
In MX you just never use Hugo's form of Gramraid Blaze ever since Shield + Barrier for Aqua means it's almost impossible to damage.

>>23921989
Raftclans is superior to every other J OG.

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Question: SRW Y is on sale today, so I'm quite interested in buying it, but I have to ask, is it like SRW 30 where you have to buy the DLC to access the final set of missions and the final extra final boss or is it complete if you don't buy any DLC?

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https://twitter.com/NOBUKIHIYAMAY08/status/2069364923717849399
Hiyama's newest role.

>>23922186
The DLC gives you access to the 1&2 and expansion units plus the story missions of those.
However Y's doesnt have a final DLC stage yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNiim95Cpo
Dandivine PV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXNB3qjvC9Y
The usual D remix guy

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https://twitter.com/mdrkw_hikaru/status/2070343613293486231

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https://twitter.com/mdrkw_hikaru/status/2070139510655221916

>>23922059
Its not like Hugo is in any real danger of dying in his version of Ignite either.

>>23922111
Granteed hits harder and Brigandi has a better MAPW. The only one that it decisively beats is Coustwell.

>>23922252
Gridman supporting Setsuna, I see.

>>23922299
Mirror Knight, you mean

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>Want to replay a game to use and ace certain characters
>remember you don't get them for like 25+ chapters

>>23921675
J has the infamy of going too far with the reinforcement gimmick. So people just get fed up with that and do not want to do another playthrough.

OG on the GBA has Ingram and if you never played SRW or read up on any guides then yeah, you will be in for a bad time.

makenaize

>>23922304
>he doesn't make a seperate save to replay the games with his waifus

>>23921961
Im not new to SRW but I got filtered by the endgame last level of Alpha Gaiden so hard. I did pick too many units based on my love of Xabungle and not protagonist gundams and shit though. Regeneraging health killed me

>>23922378
The harsh, unadorned truth is that the final bosses in this franchise are always the lowest point of the games. The only entertainment they provide is the banter they engage in with your units.

>>23922378
All you need is just mazinkaiser and shin getter. Fire blaster supported with stoner sunshine should let you skip some of their regeneration event.
Alpha Gaiden isn't a gundam game like Alpha 1, they're just decent here.

>>23921961
I'm playing 3 right now, and if you wanted to start with an older title I would much recommend 2 over it.
I'm still early into 3, but the game is pretty brutal in it's balancing, you get your shit absolutely rocked as early as the second or third map (depending on the route you take) and your team is horribly underpowered outside of the main character units, they either can't hit the broadside of a barn or are in danger of dying in one hit at max HP, and on top of this, your crappy GMs cost 900 to repair if they die while you're earning like 150-200 cash per enemy you kill. I've never felt so inclined to savescum as I do playing SRW3, you're put at such a crazy disadvantage it feels intentional.
Also the game is pretty slow to play since there's no animation skipping yet, so you have to watch every attack animation every time.

GC or Alpha Gaiden would be much better starting points.

>>23922378
The only 'mandatory' units in @G are Mazinkaiser, Shin Getter, and maybe Daitarn
You really don't get enough money in that game to bring everyone up to par even if you focus solely on weapons though so you can't just use a whole team of shit units

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fairly sure just like alto-hime, tria isn't a he

>>23922458
Is that a challenge

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this is after wing boys save setsuna from ali, who most notably isn't duo

>>23922488
It's kind of a fact, weapon upgrades in Alpha Gaiden are prohibitively expensive.
Even with the Hard mode carryover you only have enough to max weapons on 3 good units or 4 shitters who barely break 4k at max upgrades.

>>23922491
I don't mean to say the game is impossible without Shin Getter or Kaiser, but I am saying you can get away with using shitters like Zamzeed, Hi-Nu, the Wing boys or basically anyone without the accuracy to even hit Shu in the Neo Granzon if you keep a concealed carry Fire Blaster as insurance.
There's a bunch of other units you can use to deal big dick damage like Dancouga, Braiger, V2AB or one I always see people overlook, R-Gun Powered.
Viletta has really high stats probably to compensate not being around for many stages to farm stat exp and the HTB cannon goes kinda crazy.

>>23922495
Wing Boys are meant to abuse friendship bonus stacking. IIRC if you stack enough it starts getting into damage output buffing.

>>23922488
People say that to help those who have trouble not clearing the game

>>23922501
yeah but they still only have Focus and no accuracy boosting passives so landing a hit is still a pain

>>23922503
oh and only Tallgeese and Wing Zero have innate flight so they can abuse elevation accuracy/evasion bonuses

>>23921550
>>23922303
It would be nice if Sentinel did Dark Brain so Compatible Kaiser had someone to fight.

Getting softlocked in W is legitimately very possible if you didn't invest in the right units early on. You kind of need heavy investment OG, GGG, and Hiver to clear a lot of the bloated maps without running out of gas. I had to reset my first run after the translation patch came out because I wanted to use the Aestis. Not a good idea.

>>23922495
I put 'mandatory' in airquotes for a reason
They just make the game way simpler cause you can skip bosses casting Guts and Guard consistently

>>23922538Honestly impressive that you managed to run out of energy on
You know you can sit in a ship to get your EN and ammo back right

>>23922548
Fucked up in the middle of editing the post RIP.
>Honestly impressive that you managed to run out of energy on the aesties*

>>23922538
>heavy investment in GGG necessary
Are you playing with beefed up enemies?

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Question for two specific power parts in SRW30: do the Wish Bracelet and Junk Terminal effects stack together? For example, if I give both of them to Shadowmaru, then will his Shadow skill have a 60% (40 base +10 from WB + 10 from JT) chance to trigger?

>>23922538
>aesti
>ran out of gas
This is bait

>>23922538
the cutting room floor page for J unironically calls it one of the hardest SRWs

>>23922575
The fact people struggle with J and W hurts me, both games hand you busted shit on a platter.

>>23922575
>the cutting room floor
Tranny shit.

>>23922578
the hardest part of J was stage 42 where Layzner enemies spawn on every corner of the map
the difficulty came from not getting bored from going from edge to edge and figuring out what was causing the game to crash when the 3rd wave of reinforcements spawned (it took like 3 tries to figure out it crashed if I only killed the bare minimum amount of units to trigger reinforcements, a MAP killing 2 or more units would make the stage progress properly)

>>23922581
not the point
it's that it's something that's been on that page since like 2012 when the game was translated

some people literally are just strategically challenged

>>23922586
I've played J like... 20 times at this point on various device from 2007 to now and it never crashed. Are you sure it's not the rom?

>>23922503
Just use command auras, friendship bonuses and/or parts anon.

>>23922595
The only guaranteed crashes in the series I'm aware of are Alpha Gaiden (enemy count overflow on the G-bits stage) and UX/BX have a few different ones.

>>23922601
Any infinite reinforcement stage supposedly has a chance to crash if you're greedy, but I left BX's knight gundam stage run automatically until he got 999 kills and it didn't crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiLXrJpBWbU

>>23922538
No. Its impossible to get softlocked in W. I can understand some maps giving you trouble, especially if you're relatively new to the franchise. You also sure as hell don't need Hiver to deal with mooks when the game has so many MAPW and A Combo.

>>23922603
The cause of the Gaiden stage crash is that the game doesn't clear destroyed units out of the unit IDs so if you go over the max allocated number for the enemy side the game implodes
Presumably past that they started handling the enemy count in the game logic in a better way.
UX and BX crashes were mostly animation related and won't happen if you have animations turned off
>>23922605
You can't really get softlocked in any SRW since whatever point they let you keep money and exp after a game over.

>>23922578
>>23922586
>>23922589
Pretty much everyone in /srwg/ are experts at the franchise, so we all know what to do to beat the games. You have to look at this from the lens of someone that is new to the franchise and/or to the genre in general and then you'll notice that even the easier games can provide some degree of challenge and the moderate ones will feel like some sort of insurmountable challenge before you finally understand what's going on.

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>>23922615
If they actually do the plot.

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>seven missions into Moon Dwellers
>already two missions where you aren't allowed to kill enemies
Is this going to be a recurring problem?

I've never played J, but I always thought it was considered more tedious rather than hard with all the reinforcements like Namco x Capcom.

>>23922595
It only happened on that on run on that stage, on NG+ it was just fine.
This was over a decade ago too.

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>>23922613
SRW is legit the easiest SRPG series ever so I really cannot fathom someone having issue with something like OGs.
Even at their most punishing, most games have infinite midstage quicksaves that they never bothered to get rid of even for higher difficulties so it's got to be by design to be able to just reload and refresh the RNG if things don't go your way.

>>23922647
I swear he called it the Neo Granzone in the SRW3 translation

>>23922630
Not really, it's just on the space route at the start that has two of the worst missions in the entire franchise

>>23922640
You're not going to be able to save scum your way past HP Regen L bosses if your damage output is hot ass from poor distribution. OG1/2 GBA in particular have maps that I have seen people complain about and no one is going to pretend that Dark Brain in OGG is a friendly boss to newer players either.
And quite frankly, I can think of SRPG franchises that are easier than SRW.

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>>23922651
That was the old SRW3 translation. There is a more recent one with fixed names

>>23922640
You haven't played ogs recently, og2 part has a lot of stages where you have to play with unupgraded units and there's nothing you can do except pray to the random numbers.

>>23922651
Maybe he did in an early version. I remember one calling Kamille Kamiyu.

>>23922665
Man, I miss calzones, there was a great bakery near my college that made them, they basically fed me until graduation.

>>23922666
The only one of those that's even a little tricky is the one where you get the SRX team back and you have to keep enemies out of a base. It's not hard because your units suck, it's just checking where to position to slow down enemy movement and you can't just hang back and camp on the busted defensive squares cause you only have like 4 units and an 8-tile wide area to block.

>>23922672
The earth route version is easier than the space one btw.

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>>23922640
>when you have 5% hit chance, your enemy has 95% and you are waiting for the rng to hit just right

>>23922675
me when I lie

>>23922717
Its okay to admit that you havent played the game in long time anon.

>>23922722
the earth route is the one where you can't move the gigan from the middle of the giant base for 75% of the map and a barely upgraded Leona has to carry the octo shitters in protecting the base with the help of Excellen and Ryusei in a completely untouched R-1 before reinforcements spawn and a bunch of barrelions pincer attack you

the moon route equivalent is just protecting the shirogane with units you actually had a chance to customize

which ones are better in Alpha 1?
Huckebein Boxer or Gunner?
Millia's Valkyrie or the Queadlunns?

>>23922801
gunner even if you have to waste money on the MK2's photon rifle to kill bosses

idk lmao gunner sweeps maps solo
if you want to use Millia as a pilot for other, better VFs like the skull force super packs you need to get the valk I'm pretty sure

The OGG AI slop translation is more grammatically correct than the Z2 one, but at the same time, the OGG translation cuts off sentences in weird places and is just flat-out missing text. Much less readable than the Z2 one. What a letdown.

>>23922458
DX, Turn A, Zeta and Braiger are also kinda busted

>>23922810
I would say it is a first good try. Give it some time. The Z2 one is making progress as far as I'm aware

>>23922480
Should I go with JapanLibFront? JLF sounds like it'd be hard to understand
>>23922485
thanks will fix
>>23922489
The line is
「ありがとよ、カトルにトロワ。
今日は助かったぜ」
which I guess should be "thanks for helping out" in general

>>23922735
And Earth's variant is still easier. The enemies are neatly spread out, to the point that Leona can effortlessly solo an entire section by herself. Ryusei/Excellen have no real issues tag teaming another side, while Russel is borderline unkillable thanks to his dirt cheap Guard and Katina has no qualms with finishing off any trash that might have split from your guys. The Barrelion pincer is easier than it sounds to deal with because they all have gimped movement. Pretty easy for Leona, Ryusei and Excellen to move in, especially when two of them have Hit and Away.
The entire Octo Squad even get two free bars across the board.
Meanwhile in Space, the enemies are actually grouped up together in such a way that its perfectly feasible for them to dogpile on your weakest unit instead of heading straight into the meatgrinder.
>>23922808
Just upgrade Shooter and G Impact Cannon. Yes, you wont have as much range as you'd like from Photon Rifle spam but its less waste in the long run.

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move+ or range+ for scopedog
>>23922835
>JapanLibFront
go with that since glossary hasn't been invented yet or use the proper term for them
>which I guess should be "thanks for helping out" in general
ye

>>23922844
Range+ works better for counterattacks, if you're running Dash on Chirico Move+ is better

>>23922844
The underlying Japanese text uses different terms at different points, no?

>>23922801
Pick whichever is cooler, Alpha 1 lategame is a joke and both versions can easily OHKO bosses.

do Z2 terrain ratings work like OGs

>>23922861
Pilot and unit ranks both need to be S to count as an S overall in the Z games.
So broadly don't bother unless it's a unit with an innate S or you know that unit is gonna have a terrain part permanently glued to it.

>>23922861
In Z S+A = A so you need both in S for that to work in mech's terrain. Although S on weapons is always good for extra damage.

>>23922844
For the FUB? Range goes on basically everything except barrier machines or things with 5 native move.

>>23922870
If you have a max range of like 8, then you can basically count the number of times that you'd need any extra to counterattack.

>>23922884
>another episode of building an entire mini moderoid before determining whether it'd look better or worse panel-lined (I panel-lined Gunbuster but not Getter)

>>23922898
What other moderoids do you have?

>>23922388
Really? I always find it very fun to have a punching bag beefy enough to tear into as hard as I please

Did Y do Mazinger dirty? You skip Z straight to Kaiser and it takes until chapter 5 to get Mazinpower and for Great to upgrade to Emperor, and before that point all the other super robots run circles around the two with greater damage output and multiple spirit pools. Not to mention that Kaiser's ultimate attack isn't Kaiser Blade nor Kaiser Nova, but instead it's... a shoulder tackle?

>>23922902
You get Nova back later
Its still probably the weakest Kaiser has ever been relative to other supers in the game, since its attack numbers actually factor in Mazinpower instead of stacking it on top, and how insane every multi-pilot unit is in Y

Mazinkaiser needs a new upgrade.

>>23922905
Not to mention Dynazenon and Arc basically have perfect availability

>>23922905
>>23922907
Y actually bothers to account for damage multipliers on everyone barring Arc. Who I'm pretty sure is either the strongest or second strongest unit in the entire game in terms of solo finisher output.
Cross/Forte for example hit about as hard as a unit with +1300 base power even on Master while in an older game, units with damage mods would easily rule the pack unless they have comically bad base power like W Arbalest.

>>23922905
The mazingers are not in their best condition in this game but they are still good.
The 20% extra damage and 20% energy recovery are optimal in this game.
Although earty game they feel a bit weak in comparison to the heavy hitters.

>>23922836
In moon route it's still easier because your only goal is to protect the shirogane, again, there's no threat besides losing your ship and you can control its movement anyways. The Hagane's reinforcements spawn in the middle of the map to clear out what little remains of the first wave and then the Gespensts + Ouka and Echidna spawn further up to the point you can just reposition into the standard meat grinder formation before they reach you.
Moon route is also the way to go in GBA because it provides the only chance to upgrade the Hiryu and load it with a resupply module for stage 15.

>>23922932
It's hardly necessary to have anything upgraded for the Inspector fight, but if you're trying to minimum turn count or something you'd certainly be better off running away instead of chipping down Sikalog for 50 turns

>>23922936
I wonder if the parts you get from beating the Inspectors the first time around would actually let you shave off enough turns from your total turn count to have it be the superior option to just leaving

>>23922932
Upgrading the Hiryu is not necessary to beat the Inspectors on either version. I've done it multiple times. In fact, the most helpful thing you can do is get the Graviton Launcher for Viletta.
Also, I still disagree with Moon being easier because Shirogane faces a real chance of death due to Sorpresas being obnoxious to hit due to their AI's tendency to evade and prioritizing the Shirogane above all else.

>>23922936
>50 turns
How are you taking that long? 50ish turns is what I'm looking at after beating the inspectors and seeking to clear the map.

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>>23922960
I was throwing out a random number you sperg

Its time
https://github.com/camd11/srw-og-gaiden-en/releases/tag/v0.2.7

>>23922966
Kill yourself

>>23922971
Quit being autistic and I'll consider it

>>23922884
kabuchad

>>23922972
You're the one who sperged out over a simple question anon.

>>23922930
They should have just given them similar attack values to the basic Super Robots, waiting 5 chapters for them to catch up was stupid.

>>23922988
Dynamite Tackle is about as strong as Grandasher without the Mazin Power boost. It just "feels" weak because they've been giving Mazingers top of the line base power AND a multiplier in far too many games to count.

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>>23922990
OPPAI

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>>23922970
The iso I had lying around matched the md5 they mention in the readme but the patch seems to cut off longer dialogue
Dunno if I fucked something up or if they're still fixing things

>>23923000
Ai translation or actual translation.

>>23923005
Dunno, I don't see anything out of place yet with the names just a lot of misaligned menu text.
A lot of dialogue that goes past 2 lines of text seems to just be cut off both in battle and in the intermissions instead of split into additional textboxes.
If I didn't patch something wrong then this needs a full editing pass before it's actually readable

Oh and the save menu is invisible so uhh use savestates I guess

>>23923000
Its 0.2.7 version, i imagine it still has a lot of bugs

>>23923005
It's AIslop. And I believe stole from the OGs script at that despite the readme for said translation patch saying to not use it for any derivative works.

>>23922640
You can't fathom it because you cannot comprehend someone just ignorantly fucking around with upgrade distribution. Or even ignoring it entirely.

>>23923033
This is a very fair point, I've seen some vtubers playing SRW make some decisions that to anyone here would seem extremely boneheaded

>>23922906
Mazinkaiser Zero?

>>23922640
>SRW is legit the easiest SRPG series
That's fire emblem.

>>23922900
Gravion, OG Tetsujin, Gaiking, I think that's it
What are you, a cop

>>23922538
/srwg/ will really claim A Portable isn’t that hard for several threads then turn around and say that you can get softlocked on fucking W of all games.

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>>23923075
I was just genuinely curious because I never really had a moderoid kit and there were times where I contemplated on purchasing one.

>>23923070
You mean FFT

>>23923182
No, he means Unicorn Overlord.

>>23923082
Well, the upside is that the plastic feels rather sturdy, the downside is that they're a bit more expensive and the instructions aren't as intuitive or retard-proof has Bandai's are. I think for the (Moderoid?) Vilkiss(??) or other, anon mentioned there was some very unclear instruction on how to insert some arm joint or other. Take things slowly and try not to force anything, watch build videos if you have to, if any exist for obscure moderoid kits at all

>>23922902
They're still solid enough but with the DLC roster bloat they got pushed down a lot in terms of value. It seems like they made a point of making all the DLC units stronger than base game ones to incentivize you to buy them, it was probably the case in 30 too but the game was so easy it didn't matter.

>>23923206
That's an autobattler

>that that claims he never brings up DxD unprovoked got caught doing that >>23922954

SO MUCH FOR BEING THE INNOCENT PARTY YOU FUCKING RET/A/RD

>>23923082
Moderoid stuff is all over the place and I guess probably depends on who exactly got to design each kit
Gravion was kind of crap, Dynazenon is held together with a prayer and has a few really shitty sticker placements, Xabungle is basically perfect, Gaiking the Great is alright but you'll probably want to paint the gold bits cause it looks like shit out of the box

Oh right, Moderoid has some painted parts, it's not 100% color-corrected but you do have some pesky details already taken care of for you.
>>23923259
>Gravion was kind of crap
What's wrong with Gravion
>Gaiking the Great
I just have regular Gaiking and it's fine imo, altho the gold does have that usual discoloration swirls

>>23923206
UO is as much of a SRPG as Revenant Wings and Ogre Battle.
>>23923256
Retard

>>23922834
Fair. I'll look back in on it after a few months. As it is right now though, it's not really up to snuff.

>>23923024
>>23923005

The notes flat out state it was done by Claude. It's too weird at parts to be done by anyone other than AI or a SEA monkey.

>>23923274
>What's wrong with Gravion
Needs color correction in a few places even though they had the right color runners mainly
Posing is fucky between the way the legs are conncected (a bit better with Sol Gravion) and even if you swap the Grain Kaiser torso out for the one with wider shoulders
Not like its the worst kit ever but I think the first issue was easily avoidable

>>23923290
Right now any line of dialogue longer than about 96 characters is cut off anyways so the guy doing it didn't even read past like the first block of dialogue ingame I guess.

>>23923256
SRW is an autobattler

>>23923279
I liked UO a lot but calling it the same genre as 10 to 20 niggas on a grid is nonsense

>>23923258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPFIn8dW3Fk

>>23923292
>Needs color correction in a few places even though they had the right color runners mainly
Yeah, I think I needed some yellow or other. I didn't mind the shoulder option parts, I remember being slightly disappointed that you still needed to do extra work even though they gave you painted parts, but iirc it wasn't even anything insanely bad (I do not have him displayed currently)
It was alright, I was just bummed out because I forgot to apply some chest sticker to his orb, and it's impossible to get that piece out to fix this, so I think instead of a red orb it's slightly pink

>>23923295
Z2's translation is on the same level as MD's. In the sense that, while full of typos and it has some odd grammar, it's at least where I can understand it. Statements where the text just stops 75% of the way through are unreadable though.

>>23923290
This is the same one where the guy got his Reddit post purged because he outright said he fed the OGs stuff into an AI, so yeah, it's all AI there.

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This is how her name is spelled, and that's final.

>>23922990
That's just smug purple pyra

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New SSR attack part for Full Armor Unicorn Gundam and Sol Gravion: NT-D Combination and Super Heavy Sword respectively.

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https://xcancel.com/gj5623/status/2070650077564293499#m
3D printed SD Variable Formation

>>23923510
Meanwhile Banshee still has only one non-combo SSR attack.

>>23923519
I still cannot see SRX as anything but a big goofy nerd.

>>23923599
isn't that what ryusei is

>>23923599
Said the desert to the grain of sand

>>23923599
It's the physical incarnation of mecha anime nerds, a god of steel for people who cheer at shit like Gurren Lagann speeches.

>>23923599
What gave it away?
The "Heaven & Earth One-Shot Sure-kill Tronium Buster Cannon" ?

>>23923629
aka based

>>23923635
Yeah, it's hard for me to do anything but like it.

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>>23923629
Ok now this is fucking awesome. >>23923599
Yeah no fuck ouph

To be honest, I want the New Keroro Robos in SRW DD as an event. That way, people can still appreciate the mecha without the need of watching the god-awful movie handled by someone who does live-action adaptations of popular manga and anime.

>>23923679
You didn't watch it.

>>23923679
It feels like it'd work better in a mainline SRW this time.

No combined robots.

Tons of giant/robot enemies, including the final boss

Entire climax is a long robot battle

But, yeah, with the backlash this is getting it seems unlikely mainline SRW would pick it up.

>>23923633
It really is just the glasses isn't it?

I am more impressed that despite this appearance the SRX can look so menacing while in shadow.

>>23923519
Is SRX still allowed to use its banpresto beam?

>>23923697
The finisher in 30 is literally that

>>23920674
I wonder if post SvN getting a big boost in relevancy thanks to people mashing STORM with Idol a few years back if it has a greater chance of returning than before

>>23923697
It still uses it in SRW 30. And you can still make out the mask.
The only thing it no longer does is the dramatic freeze-frame as the beam impacts, while playing the Banpresto jingle.

>>23923683
And let's be real here, it's a good way to promote the model kits if the movie is just hot garbage. The New Keroro System is just amazing with cross-compatibility with the 30 Minutes Label kits and so much more (tri-hole backpack connectors and working cockpits, anyone?), as well as foreshadowing the ability to give the unique equipment of each New Keroro Robo to the 30MP Powered Natsumi (which is sorely mishandled by just outright not making it appear in the movie, and Bandai alone is surely aware modelers will pull that stunt).

>>23923732
Armageddon plus SvN would be really nice

>>23923765
Why did we not get Banprios in 30 when other ppl got upgrades?

>>23923909
It's a bonus unit

>AIslop translator doesn't even give enough of a shit to playtest a few hours

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perhaps rephrase the front and the back to something else

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third one should be more clear about refuting hayato's previous line
why wasn't the improved ui and namefix version released again
did it break stuff

>>23923985
These types never do any form of checking, it's the same as people posting "translations" where the AI gave them the obvious nonsense or worse just spat out the same sentence in Romanji.

>>23923991
>>23924013
thanks
I don't want to release Proper Updates too often because it might overwhelm people. But I will probably put out an update this coming week. There's a bunch of stuff like stage title cards and UI graphics that have long been ready.

>>23924060
Retard.

>>23924063
Learn Japanese or hire a translator.

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WHERE ARE YOU RYUSEI-KUN

>>23924072
Cope.

Played a bit of OGG 'translation' and its a really rough state. A ton of dialogue is cut off and some of the dialogue doesnt make sense. Guess its back to waiting

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>>23924109
>Guess its back to waiting

>>23924089
I don't play this franchise. I just hate AIslop.

I have LITERALLY no choice but to watch Layzner. I started it, and therefore I have to finish it or the Schutzstaffel will kill me for wussing out.

>>23924077
where the pubes

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>>23924109
Lol @ u >>23924110 this weeblord knows what's up.

If you have been playing SRW for DECADES like most of us you would know enough already to play the games. It's not like legal or history verbiage or anything. Kfc

I like how in z2 gaiou-san likes hotdogs. I thought to myself, “its a great that even a manly man can have gay thoughts or opinions sometimes “

>>23924167
>Hotdogs are gay.
Are you one of those idiots that doesn't wash his ass because it's gay?

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>>23924176

Is Z1 translation still getting translated or what? I hate reading story summaries and google translate is driving me insane.

>>23924111
Stop being an asshole.
This anon is using AI to bridge a gap and get something semi-decent out the door for people to play.
If they didn't care about quality level and were just looking to score reputation, then first and foremost they would *NOT* be releasing this anonymously but would be using atleast a pseudonym to go by. Secondly, if they didn't care about the quality level, they wouldn't have invested time in cleaning up shenanigans like variable width fonts, or the various flavors of text graphics that don't conform to the standard dialog font metrics. (Both of which they actually DID work on!)

They might not have the programming experience to get this 100% correct with manual coding (which in case of ROM hacking is a fucking nightmare in 99.99% of all cases to begin with even if you ARE an experienced software developer, mind you!) and they might be employing an AI to try and wing the translation as best they can - but that's more fucking effort than *YOU* are putting into this.

The best thing *YOU* can do is point out the flaws in the translation, if you find them, so that this anon can get the AI to rework those passages. And ultimately, we can only hope this effort manages to snag the attention of an actual human translator to go through the rough parts and fix them up. But the days of (S)NES rom-hacks and that type of thing happening pro-bono, have sadly passed - I'm afraid. You'd need someone with rather extreme dedication to the series IP to give enough of a fuck and step forward. And I think that's simply not going to happen.

We were lucky as fuck to get Dramata to start doing editorial on SRW V and onward. Count your blessings on that one. And be content.

>>23924219
*slurrrrrrp*

>>23924204
Yeah, there's a team working on it on a Discord server atm. The LP's still the best way to get the story in the meantime though, sorry.

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Damn, poor Sanson

That sunrise x madhouse thing finally got a pv.

>>23924222
I accept your concession

>>23924219
>The best thing *YOU* can do is point out the flaws in the translation
We are and have been

Its AIslop