Remember when GCucks was revealed and everyone thought it would be cool Gundam fight tournament/sports based show for kids like Pokemon/Beyblade/Yugioh and comparing it to G Gundam but then it was just retarded random forced UCtroon nostalgiawank?
>>23957538
>>23957538No, because from the start everyone knew about the Char stuff and wanted more of that.
>>23957538>troonWas there any?
>>23957550all UC fans
>>23957538Cry more.
>>23957538>everyone thought it would be cool Gundam fight tournament/sports based show for kids like Pokemon/Beyblade/Yugioh and comparing it to G Gundam but then it was just retarded random forced UCtroon nostalgiawank?anybody who wasn't a retard and watched the beginning film knew what to expect.
>>23957538>Name a bigger disappointmentZeta
>>23957538Fuck this Gundam was ugly shit, glad we're back to proper Gundams.
>Name a bigger disappointment>>23957538
>>23957538I kinda liked the art style of the MS but honestly it woulda been better without the space magic shit in the end>>23957553Found the seednigger
>>23957548/thread
>>23957538Destiny, Try.
I guess op is feeling lonely to have made this thread again?
>>23957843He's mad he got his shit kicked in on the other threads.
it was fun. didn't finish though
>>23957538Darling in the FRANXX after episode 15.
>>23957538This was a disappointment purely because it felt like they were denied another cour halfway through production, and had to shit out a half-baked ending while running the plot at ludicrous speed
>>23957581Your favourite show is straight ass.>>23957827Destiny is the worst Gundam series. >>23957843Friendly reminder that lesbian relationships have a coin flip's chance of domestic abuse. Yurifags like yourself should be ashamed.
>characters look like Pokemon trainers >mobile suits look shit>story cockteases the audience with a post-Zeonic victory UC before going right back to the rejected Pokemon trainers' gay fucking antics>Newtype understanding is flanderized to talk no jutsu Destiny is objectively the worst series in the franchise, but GayCucks feels like a Gundam series by Michael fucking Haneke.
>>23957538>Name a bigger disappointmentwhy would I be disappointed when I expected forgettable garbage and got forgettable garbage
>>23957538Remember when GCucks was revealed and everyone thought it would be coolno>>23958517pretty sure they just sucked ass at writing anon
>>23957538you could tell by the design and the team making it how it was all going to play out, and it played out exactly as everyone predictedit was comical watching the defenders of this show cope that the ending wouldn't be evangelion tier nonsense magic, and then when it was they flipped the script instantly and claimed thats all they ever wanted and it was genius pathetic >>23957843>>23957846he has some kinda mental illness / fetish hell maybe he doesnt even like gcucks I cant even tell at this point
>>23957538in terms of anime I cant reallyI was pretty put off by this show in the first half then started to get into it around the time nyan went off with xavier, only to have the rug pulled out from under me
was told to expect kino.I got slop so bad that it killed any drive to watch any other modern harem anime
Aura Battler Dunbine
>>23957538Why was these even called gundam? It's not like Anno is a stranger to homage and reference. If this was just some random mecha project that hinted it was an alternate universe of Gundam I dont think it would be all that great but it would be less confused and disappointing than what we got.
>>23959001>characters look like Pokemon trainersthis was most egregious with any returning UC charactersaside from them only matchu looked really hideous out of the main cast, and I think that was intentional with her dying her hair to get back at her family I could ignore the subpar art style if the story was good but it wasn't
>>23958989I can tell you're from /v/ tourist
I liked it.I don't even know how Pokemon characters look, so that wasn't a problem for me although the change between 0079 characters and the new ones is a bit uncanny at first
People these days associate Take with Pokemon instead of Katanagatari...
>>23960038The retard going muh pokemon muh pokemon is legit a /v/ tourist.
>>23957549but that's the problemthose who wanted "what if zeon won" alternate universe barely got anythingthose who wanted clan battle tournament arc barely got anythingthose who wanted to see tomato and potato's battle to death for shuji's heart barely got anythingthose who wanted char ucwank barely got anythingthose who wanted to see the new mobile suits barely got anythingthose who wanted to see the updated uc mobile suits barely got anythingthe show is four shows and two toy lines spreading themselves too thin to be enjoyable
the heat death of the universe will be two days away from happening and this retard will still be talking about how gquuuuuux wasn't the platonic show he wanted it to be
>>23957538I think GQuuuuuuuX would've been fine if it actually was just a fun nostalgiawank what-if story, but they took it way too seriously for some reason.
I'm surprised more people aren't annoyed by it introducing the concept that char is the actual linchpin of the multi-verse and that literally everything else in UC plays second fiddle to his fated rivalry with amuro. It's so nostalgia-wank about something the series never was about.Tomino must be trying to keep quiet these days because he never liked that "fated enemies" shit either. Char and Amuro are just recurring personalities in a bigger world, not the hinge point of fucking reality and either of them could've just slipped up and eaten a bazooka.
>>23960038Her GCucks designs are closer to her more recent Pokémon ones than her older Katanagatari ones, art involution and all that. Although it's not like any version of her artsyle is a good fit for UC.>>23960166Cry harder, GCuck.
>>23960552Struck a nerve huh?
>>23960544>I'm surprised more people aren't annoyed by it introducing the concept that char is the actual linchpin of the multi-verseLalah is the one actually resetting the timeline.And Tomino always had this ideal in his stories of a "real" Newtype being a savior figure that could lead to a good future. It's just generally he prefers to stay with a more realistic conclusion where the world crushes these potential saviors, but I don't think he'd be actually against depicting that being successful.There's an interview with him and Yasuhiko where Yasuhiko brings up his problems with newtypes and how it could be compared to radical ideologies that led to disaster in the real world, and Tomino argues that Newtype symbolize "hope" itself for the future and aren't associated with any one ideology, so the idea can't be corrupted in the same way.
>>23957538Gundam Seed Destiny without any reasonable doubt.
>>23960544Amuro is barely in this show. He never really actually appears
>>23960555I'd rather be a pathetic GCuck or Witchfag than a /v/ermin, but thankfully I'm neither.
>>23960490Charwank was present considering the thesis of GQuuuux is that Char Aznable is the most important person to ever exist.
>>23960664most important to exist in lalah's brain, which explains everything
>Survives the theft of the Gundam and White Base>Still ends up being roped into the Federation>Becomes the only other federation ace besides that milf>after the timeskip managed to assert herself with the help of Ramba as the heir of Zeon.That sounds a lot more interesting than what the Actual show has to offer, why couldn't we get more of that?
>>23960166no amount of coping is gonna convince people that shit look good
>>23960820>why couldn't we get more of that?gcucked feels like the staff sat down and brainstormed the worst possible story they could get away with as some kinda prank
>>23960874>>23960885Keep seething.
>>23960919dw anon I know you'll never stop seething
>>23959447Because it's essentially the Mk-II of the GQuuuuuuX universe? The Qux/Endymion was built using data from the Red Gundam and the OOPart recovered on the moon. Wish we got to see more of the beam rifle though. A variable field beam saber was cool, the black hole generator shield was cool, but the rifle was tossed away early and didn't seem particularly unique in function while everything else was. Maybe it would've been!
>>23957538>everyone thought it would be cool Gundam fight tournament/sports based show for kidsThe clanbat part of the show was a waste of fucking time they should've never bothered with
>>23957538If this was a western series, everyone would agree this series is as bad as most modern Star Wars crap. It feels more obsessed with the iconography of the series than with actually telling a memorable story.
>>23969267Nothing is as bad as slop wars.
According to the co-mechanical designer, Bandai's hobby team clamped down on them to finish designing the Hambrabi's mobile armor mode. That's why it took so long to get a model kit- it was literally unfinished during production, which honestly says a lot about everything in this series.
this never getting more than one episode
>>23957538No, people were actually shitposting about how the show would just focus on duels and the story would never go bigger scope and the setting would be mostly background dressing like GWitch.I really think GQX's problem in the end was just messing up the initial Shu/Mashu/Nyaan bonding. The later battle fall flat to a lot of people because those episodes didn't establish strong bonds between them well enough.
>>23969625I love how every detail about this show makes your retards piss and shit your pants.
>>23969666>I really think GQX's problem in the end was just messing up the initial Shu/Mashu/Nyaan bondingI think they were fine, watching the episodes week by week had everyone talking about their relationship.
>>23957538cry about it, one post with a three second animation cut of Shuji got more response than the XRAX annoucement trailer
This shit is garbage lmao thank god i didnt bother to watch it
>>23971167Honestly? Anno is a good director, and the Zeon won premise is interesting. None of the new characters are very memorable, but they are at least inoffensive. It's like fast food.
either they made the pacing way quicker in the first arc, so they didn't need to rush the second one so much.... Or they got another cour. What we had was what felt like 15 episodes of dicking around (actually slowly building characters and plots) and 5 episodes of all the plot they wanted. We had stuff like nyann becoming a pilot then being groomed by Kycilia to fighting Machu to Being friends again in 5 seconds to facing Omega Gundam to Awakening Amuro's Ghost so quickly that it barely left an impression.
lotsa coping here
>>23957538I feel like it needed 12 more episodesAs it is it's a remarkably rushed and indigestible biscuit littered with on-the-nose wink wink
>>23971186At least reccoa, Sarah, mondo, Hathaway, gyunei, quess and more had the audacity to be insufferableThe Zeon in the High Castle was too rushed to feel coherent
>>23969806>watching the episodes week by week had everyone talking about their relationshipYeah, about how shallow it was.
>>23969727But enough about G-Cucksfags.
>>23975224>>23975225Oh look he's pissing and shitting himself again.
>>23957538I would've agreed with you if you weren't some seething SEEDcuck crying about UC.
>>23974895Same, though unlike WfM, I did not expect Khara to change their minds on that, and because all they wanted to do was geek out, I didn't complain at all when GQuuuuuuuX because they were sincere with that and it's not like Bandai Namco executives got in their way.
>>23957538It was an interesting idea executed terribly. The characters are shallow and unlikeable the mech designs are fucking hideous. The story is all over the place and uninteresting. It feels like it was another show to appeal to the Twatter crowd like Witch from Mercury.
>>23975308But enough about you.
>>23976568>sounds of pissing and shitting
>>23976571Anon, stop bringing your fetishes up, they're gross.
>>23976574You are literally standing in a puddle of your own piss and shit.
>>23957799The designer already has a Nu Gundam concept
I haven't watched ShitQugger and I will never watch it because of the way it gets talked in screenshots from Reddit.The only good thing I can say about it is that I like Machu (at least how she looks) and I'd like to have consensual sex with her if she was real.Other than that, the fact of the matter is that G Gundam is the best Gundam series ever of all time, and it will always be.Coincidentally (or perhaps not) the best and most powerful Gundam ever is God Gundam, and it is also the best Gundam design ever.That is all, you can close the thread now.
>>23977228nobody asked Guck Gundam manAnd I've never seen a single screenshot of reddit talks about it here
>>23977280I don't need to be asked, I'm no one's slave. No master bounds me."I've never seen" that's (You)r personal experience, which means nothing to me, due to my personal experience being different.
>>23957538who gives a fuck?
>>23957538>Name a bigger disappointment
>my personal experience is looking at what reddit thinks
>encounter reddit screenshots by mere chance without looking for them>redditards described it positively in their autistic way with their meme words babble that they are expected to use>and knowing that they're low iq goycattle with shit taste, that means the series is trash.It's not that complex of a personal experience, but I think it still fits the definition.
>>23977322>Nostalgia bait carried by references >Doesn't understand what made the original show good>Only fondly remembered bits are when the cooler older characters show up>Zero cultural impact besides a couple of new characters to make porn ofGcucks and this are mirrors of eachother, in a way
>>23977413>cultural impactZoomers just can't help themselves can they.
>>23957538>Name a bigger disappointmentthe ending of the show blew everything else out of the waterwhat even was the point of it all
>>23977594Lalah Sune is the most important and maybe the least interesting character in the entire UC.
>seemed like denied another cour halfway through production, and had to shit out a half-baked ending while running the plot at ludicrous speedno, it's just Tsurumaki typical directing. I think it's the opposite problem where it was meant to be shorter and they tried to extend it. Even Diebuster is only 6 episodes and seems like it should have been a 2 hour movie.>Why was these even called gundam? It's not like Anno is a stranger to homage and reference. If this was just some random mecha project that hinted it was an alternate universe of Gundam I dont think it would be all that great but it would be less confused and disappointing than what we got.Because the majority of the work is not Anno. It's Tsurumaki trying to make FLCL with Gundam. The backstory for how the alternate UC came about that Anno created is itself interesting but wasn't the main part of the project. The show would have been better if it committed to any one of these.>>23960490>>23977596This is also the only reason this show is popular and liked in Japan. It's an official fanfiction of Lalah having a good end.
>>23977672>This is also the only reason this show is popular and liked in Japan. It's an official fanfiction of Lalah having a good end.It's just hard to believe people give a shit about her 50 years removed from 0079. She was an accessory to Amuro and Char's development if anything.
>>23977352This is ironic right?
>>23977676it's not 50 years removed anon. they manage to shove her in everytime Newtypes comes up, from zeta to zz to cca to even fucking Unicorn has Lalah with speaking lines. I'm going to be raging my shit if Char and Lalah show up again in Hathaway 3rd movie given how important the events of CCA are and we've had numerous flashback/redrawn animated scenes re-done speaking lines from it already in the first 2 movies.
>>23977676Newfag.
>Make a bootleg version of Four Called Two and have her get instantly killed without any character interaction almost like a gag>Take the classic tragedy of Lalah and Char's doomed relationship and obscure it by giving characters who are Lalah and Char in name only an underdeveloped fairy tail endingSo this is writing by fans for fans... Impressive. Tsurumaki and Enokido are geniuses...
>>23977707>almost like a gagIs this your first gundam?
>>23977707They're named after numbers at the lab because they are lab rat experiments and too unimportant to name.
The more I think about this show the lower my opinion of it gets, it really might be a franchise bottom-3 contender
>>23977792Not when wing, seed, 00 and gbitch exist.
>>23977802I finished GQuX. I never finished Witch or 00 and I never started SEED.
>>23977802Not a single one of those is even close to bottom three of the franchiseI'm classing GQ down with pure shit like Build Divers and Twilight Axis
>>23977813>Not a single one of those is even close to bottom three of the franchiselul
>>23977813I'd probably watch Build Divers over Witch From Mercury.
I'd absolutely watch G-Saviour over Witch From Mercury.
>>23977818sure you would
>>23977827I honestly would. One is so bad it's good and the other is Witch From Mercury.
gwitch gets credit for being its own thing and not an embarrassing fan fiction of UC
Bottom 3 Gundam series:3. Witch2. Gqux1. Witch again
>>23978120Deranged thinking, IMO
I understand people's complaints with Gquacks, but I honestly found G-witch more disappointing. Gquacks had a really annoying ending with Shuji essentially hijacking the plot. But it had a very interesting setting and I liked most of it up until then.G-witch barely felt like it barely fleshed out its world to me, just really specifc snapshots of a restricted setting, which does not feel Gundam to me. And the way it closes the book on Gund technology almost feels like the setting is essentially done with as well.
>>23958517I dunno, if they had simply continued with the existing plot line of the world being a result of the sleeping Lalah's dreaming, and just focused on the characters trying to delicately navigate around that, I think that's plenty enough to go on for the run time they had. It's adding this whole thing where it was actually Shuji forcefully resetting the worlds (not Lalah simply subconsciously changing the channel in her imagination on her own), and alluding to it all being because of a relationship we never see between Shuji and Lalah, that made it feel super over stuffed to me. It seems to me simply not adding that twist is a more simple solution than doubling the episodes.
>>23959188Yeah this show is really rough. I remember the fans saying it was pretty good for a harem series, and seemingly judging it from those lowered expectations, but even with that criteria I think there's way better mecha themed harem shows to watch.
>>23977818I mean it's a fraction of the time/attention commitment so that isn't a very daring statement.
>>23977710Dude even Rosamia got more time to interact with people before being unceremoniously killed. I think the only cyber Newtypes with similar fates are the various 'other' Puru clones.
>>23978134>calling bad things bad is deranged
>>23978136The writing in G-Witch is bad. It is all incredibly surface level, but people think it is incredibly deep and clever because they don't know any better due to the fact that the average American reads at a sixth grade level now. I read a wiki article about The Tempest once, this show is deep, okay? GQuX had flaws, but it was at least self aware. Anno is nothing but self aware.
>>23978167Let me again state that I didn't like Code Geass either and I think Okouchi is actually retarded.
I'm glad WfM came out first so we had a great female lead in Suletta as opposed to whatever machu ended up being. It's really not her fault though since they had to push fucking char aznable over and over again at the expense of machu and nyaaan and pretty much every original character. Gquuuuuux's biggest folly is being tied to UC. The show had one good character arc and that was, ironically, the witch from earth.
>>23978233>Suletta >great female leadWhen does she become a great female lead? I didn't make it that far.
I thought from Machu we would at least get plenty of ammo for "Women amirite" posts but Cucks was such a wet fart we didn't even get that.
>>23978250>weGo back vedditor.
>>23978480Quiet, nigger.
I wasn't disappointed, it provided great fun to me and I enjoyed the UC wank, I don't care if that upsets AU niggas
>>23978575Why the fuck would it upset AU peopleIt's a less offensive "The Origin" in that it has nothing to say, and has a bunch of one off characters that die the episode they're introducedThat has nothing to do with the nonexistent AU strawman
>>23978580>the nonexistent AU strawmanHe's mad.
>>23978233I think machu and nyaan had a chance to become decent charactersBut some fucking idiot literally wrote>Muh shuuji>Muh kira kiraAnd nothing else for them for some reason
>>23978582The show was a lot of style over substance, which it was made by the guy who wrote FLCL so that checks out.
>>23978167>Anno is nothing but self aware.I heard he was appalled peoplr laughed at the action in eva rebuild III and ivI genuinely like both of those movies and I think the action in them is genuinely awful>>23978136>With shuuji hijacking the plotYeah you almost wonder what is the point of char other than "he has to be relevant" and chalia bull randomly being an ELS adjacent something or otherAs for suletta I think the show left too much as a mystery so that when all the cards were laid out on the table everybody was rightfully upset when none of them came together to make a satisfying character profile
>>23977678No. There is no irony.
>>23978587The rebuild movies were a clusterfuck and you can tell Anno isn't the same person he was when he made Eva like 30 years ago. People change, and the fandom hates that.
>>23978585I'm now imagining every instance of "kira kira" being replaced with fooly coolyI'm so sick and tired of this "if we write it vaguely enough the viewer can fill in the blanks" artsy bullshitIt was tired by the time dark souls did itIt's the fucking elder scrolls of plot writingNo you should not expect the player to mod it to what they wantIt's a fairly well defined history in a beloved timeline in a popular franchiseWhat was he thinking
>>23978591I like the idea that the rebuilds are an introspective of anno's psycheAt least it has something to say, other than "shuuji inexplicably is a multidimensional lalah simp"
>>23978595EVERYBODY is a Lalah simp.
>>23978136>>23978587The problem with Shuuji is that early series basically does nothing to foreshadow who he actually is in the finale. And initial personality feels so aloof you don't get the sense he's actually bonding with Mashu. 6 episodes to establish the friendship of the main cast could have been enough if they handled things differently.>>23978587>I heard he was appalled peoplr laughed at the action in eva rebuild III and ivThat's just a dumb /m/ rumor. The Eva Rebuild movies did extremely well in Japan. As a point of comparison, even SEED Freedom's box office, by far the best performing Gundam, is nowhere near the Rebuilds.
>>23978575based, most of the seething GQX generates comes from burgers that wanted an easily recommendable low barrier AU entry. It was so funny watching them spiral out as episode by episode it became more and more linked with old UC Gundam and was not for Wing/Seed/Origin/Unicorn/IBO or other AU babies.
My biggest complaint is that the show didn't feel "Gundam-y" enough. Gundam usually exists in a weird futuristic multiculture setting, Gquuuuuux felt like it was set in modern Japan. It didn't feel like they were living in a space colony. It already felt this way before Psycho Gundam went berserk shooting beams everywhere and somehow didn't completely destroy the fragile space colony.
>>23978606Were you watching in a second monitor? Honestly that'd explain most of the complaints ITT.
>>23978609Are you genuinely mental or just pretending?
>>23978620>the show didn't feel "Gundam-y" enough. Gundam usually exists in a weird futuristic multiculture settingYou weren't paying attention if you believe this, hell you weren't paying attention to Gundam in general.
>>23978626A or B.
>>23978601I should specify, it was in response to western consumption of the actionI still believe it's true because I think the action is dreadful and overindulgent in 3 and 4 when it happens
>>23978603GQX isn't AUWhy on earth is it considered AUIn no way does it act like it's AU because it doesn't work unless you know what it's referring to when it refers to stuff
>>23978606>>23978609>>23978620>Gundam whose entire scenes are stripped from what's happened before explicitly in Gundam>Doesn't feel gundamy enoughThis makes no sense
>>23978679>Why on earth is it considered AUIs it?
>>23978233She was literally a hyper typical doujiko moeblob with a 'battle mode' switch that exists to help distance her from any agency during violent acts.I'm honestly shocked Bandai went with such an obvious choice for the first female TV lead.
>>23978684If AU stands for "alternate universe" like I think it does, no
>>23978678>overindulgentShut up dude.
>>23978686I mean, is it considered one? Most people associate it with UC, alt-UC if you wanna be anal about classification.
>>23978685>Our girls can't be people with arcs>Our lesbians can't be lesbian >Our stakes can't have weightAnd then the end result is everyone feels detached and uninvested because the only cool character with motivations and ambitions and anything to gain to lose is a fucking background characterWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>23978601>And initial personality feels so aloof you don't get the sense he's actually bonding with Mashu.I'm also not convinced it wasn't at least partially an act. I mean he didn't even seem to give a shit about his robot after the twist, which was previously depicted as a companion that was watching out for his health.I'm sure some of the Newtype spiritualism stuff was legit if he cared so much about Lalah but I'm not sure him being so aloof paint huffing starving artist was even the real Shuji.
>>23978688In my opinion it isn't alt UC>It plainly states that UC happened and relies on UC happening>The fact that the very elmeth that exists is the one you see in cucks among other things has the plot being completely reliant on UC happening>Never mind the ass load of references the show is weighed down by>>23978687I'm sorry but a flying whale and a CG diorama of an eva spinning in a big pink cyclone shooting a machine gun wantonly while spinning is a far cry from "restrained and grounded"In fact in the entire 2 last movies the only action I could get behind is eva v eva fighting on a toku film set
>>23978699Im saying anything that could have lent weight and progression to suletta was dropped to play it safe and that lent itself to the end result that was>We did nothing with suletta but made her look fish out of water for nearly 26 episodesWhich is fucking crazy you wonder if they had a plan, because no way any competent writer would with the fucking draft, review that, and find that an acceptable outcome for the lead character
>>23978701Not having a plan has almost seemed like the MO for Gundam for a while now.
>>23978704Don't I fucking know it>Unicorn was awesome>Let's cash in>How>With less time, budget, plot, characters, and logicThe fuck is thatAnd don't get me started on the dreadful plot and design of thunderbolt>We need extra shields because there's so much debrisDid the author of that manga forget they're in 10meter tall metal giants? We don't launch our astronauts into space with just space suits
>>23978695When has Eva been "restrained and grounded"??? Go back to your grunt thread retard.
>>23978756>When has Eva been "restrained and groundedEver since it was a love letter to ultraman?
>>23978761Eva is many things, claiming it's one and nothing else is dishonest. And how many Ultraman seasons have you watched?
>>23978780I can picture two dudes dressing up in rubber suits and doing most of the action in most of evangelionI can't past movie 3In fact I can't picture any action past 3 because it's an orgy of excess
>>23978786Funny cause that's when they used mocap the most.
>>23978789Experienced animators are better at scene composition than CG animators?Color me shocked
>>23978819>goalpost status: moved
>>23959001>>story cockteases the audience with a post-Zeonic victory UC before going right back to the rejected Pokemon trainers' gay fucking anticswhat the fuck are you talking about there is too much 0079 wank in the second half that the original characters get practically shafted
>>23978837>I still think it's shit at the point at which it's shitThey don't move just because you say they did3 and 4 are like watching quantum of solaceThe action is overwhelming and visually hard to digestAlso I'm allowed to think it's shit, I still like 3 and 4 in spite of the actionBut if you think they're perfect and infallible, you're fucking wrong
>>23978842I like how all that>Muh kira kira>Muh shuujiIs all expected to be forgiven because>Shuuji, a literal who, has his homura moment because lalah is his madoka
>>23978843You keep moving the goalposts and adding random shit to your argument.>QoSOh you are just a retard obsessed with random shit no one would even think of bringing up.
>>23978850>i have examples>youre just generally a dicki dunno i think ive been pretty specific and pretty reasonableyouve been nothing but a fucking unreasonable dickbut then thats what fanboys tend to beenjoy your last you, ill concede you got me and wasted enough of my time being an unreasonable dick
>>23978167The writing in G-Witch does have depth and was genuinely getting at themes about classism and anti-corporatism and then they had to fucking undermine themselves by forcing Mirione to suck up to her dad and make a fucking public start-up and go the down the reformist fixing-the-system-from-the-inside route while redeeming all the corporate oligarchs as actually being good people at heart. By the time season 2 starts the character drama between Suletta and Mirione is the only worthwhile thing left and the writers shoot themselves in the foot again by splitting them up for an unreasonable amount of time so youre stuck with the shitty politics and other half baked side characters
>>23978026Gwitch isn't it's own thing. It's constantly recycled ideas from older gundam shows that did the same ideas better, including a lot of writing and storyboarding taken straight from Un*corn.And that's not getting into how it's also a shitty fanfic of one of Shakespeare's most middling plays combined with Utena if all the themes were ignored
>>23978871i never read or watched the shakespeare play but they needed to copy the cow episode if it was going to be good
>>23978709>>We need extra shields because there's so much debris>Did the author of that manga forget they're in 10meter tall metal giants? We don't launch our astronauts into space with just space suitsThis made sense when it took place in the Thunderbolt Sector. Then the author retconned to every design looking like that which made it stupid.
>>23978865>redeeming all the corporate oligarchsIt didn't. They were still pieces of shit that were locked in legal battles for the illegal shit they did at the end of the show.
>>23978865>reformist fixing-the-system-from-the-insideSo where does tearing down the whole thing fit into that?
>>23957538>everyone thought it would be cool Gundam fight tournament/sports based show for kids like Pokemon/Beyblade/Yugioh and comparing it to G GundamNo, the alt UC thing was leaked super early so everyone was more interested in what that would be.
>>23978908>This made sense when it took place in the Thunderbolt Sector.They were always redesigns in the manga. It's just the anime profiles that said they were Thunderbolt sector specific variations.
The writers for gcucks said they made up the story as they went along and it fucking showed.
>>23979092No they didn't.
>>23979094Yes, they did.
>>23979098Source?
>>23957606We knew before the show was even announced because the leaked UC stuff was posted here a million times over. You and >>23957538 should go back to wherever you came from
>>23957538>Name a bigger disappointmentEasy. Especially when the previous entry was widely beloved and set he bar high.
>>23979155It wasn't that bad.
>>23979280Disappointment is proportional to expectations. People had very high hopes for Try.>wasn't that badWasn't going to cut it.
>>23979330>Disappointment is proportional to expectations.Okay, but this isn't about your relationship with your parents.
>>23979336Heckin epic comeback friendo.
>>23979336Kek
>>23957538The producers flat out stated they had absolutely no plans for it beyond the season you got. Every week here you guys expected it to go somewhere or build upon the old mythos in some fashion and it amounted to nothing but a fart in the wind in the end.I fully admit i have not yet seen it and every retrospect i've read of it now just flattens my initiative to finally view it. It just sounds like a waste of time and talent they squandered on a disposable 12 episode show.
Strongest gquuuuuux hater btw.
>>23979465>It just sounds like a waste of time and talent they squandered on a disposable 12 episode show.If you ever end up watching it, you'll be shocked at what an understatement that is
>>23979465>Every week here you guys expected it to go somewhere or build upon the old mythos in some fashion and it amounted to nothing but a fart in the wind in the end.1st half is very focused on the main cast but in a very slow way it feels like they barely bond in that time, and barely deals with the outside world, 2nd half breaks the status quo, rushes through a lot of setting politics, plot points and development to the main cast, while treating them like they were super close before, to the point that a lot of people feel like nothing lands.
>>23979465>Every week here you guys expected it to go somewhereby around the midpoint it was clear there was no salvaging the showsome copers wanted to to succeed just for the sake of it succeeding. people would predict something, they would claim there was no way the show would be that bad, and then when the show was that bad they claimed it was actually what they wanted all alongthe ending is the perfect example of that
>>23978681It's not the scenes that's not Gundam-y, it's the characters and their behaviors. Like using Psycho Gundam for example, originally took action on Earth, it's doing similar things in Gquuuuuux but in a space colony. It should have drastically different results because of the difference in setting but it didn't.Machu and Nyaan doesn't feel like the usual Gundam show, specifically UC, inhabitants. They were acting more... contemporary. I have this feeling that Gundam setting and characters usually feel more speculative from a writer's perspective.
>>23980848>it's not gundamy because something happened differently Man shut the fuck up.
>>23979465fuck off you dumb sheep.
>>23957538Turn A was just as garbage so was Seed
>>23957538Gozyuger.
>>23957538Nah, I loved every second of GQuuuuuuX. Best Gundam anything since Thunderbolt, though Hathaway 2 is similarly excellent.
>>23969625Oh, so that's why it's the only hand-drawn mecha in the show.
I know people treat it as a meme but unironically Zeta.Unlikeable new characters, retreaded plot elements from the original show, shitty MS designs AND it changes newtypes from being this new age hippy thing into super saiyjan bullshit to deus ex machina unsolveable problems that has since become the nadir of Gundam. All the worst elements of Gundam have their root in Zeta.>hurr durr gcucks and destiny have shit writing>four dies then comes back out of nothing to die again? rosamia being four 2.0? titans having less moral grayness than people dropping colonies on earth? manta ray and donut transformers? newtype haxx galore? whooppee! zeta numbah wan baybeeee!
>>23984940I heard bad things about ZZ and Victory but idk
>>23984940Zets Gundam is my favorite anime ever made. I love it so much. What should I be watching instead?
>>23985041Heavy Metal L-Gaim
>>23985049Cool.
>>23978167>picReplace the Gqux with the Gqux RX-78. The Gqux itself is still discernibly Gundamish.
>>23984808Based prince.
>>23984940>Unlikeable new charactersretarded way to engage with stories.>shitty MS designsshit taste>it changes newtypes from being this new age hippy thingit continues to build upon the theme of newtypes with a nuance point that even if they understood each other they would still continue fighting.>super saiyjan bullshitzeta predates that, stop watching anime with shonen brainrot.>deus ex machina unsolveable problemstragedy of newtypes are that despite their immense potential they can't solve the deep rooted problems in the UC world.>four dies then comes back out of nothingShe didn't die, no dead body means alive.>rosamia being four 2.0?they are sort of similar but serves different purpose and kamille treats them differently.>titans having less moral grayness than people dropping colonies on earth?Emma changes sides and that one Titans guy helps out during Dakar. Titans serves their purpose of showing the consequences of unchecked millitary faction made with 'good' intentions.
>>23957538Don't care, a 12 episode show is better than a 50 episode one of the same quality. There's no story in Gundam that needs 50 episodes to be told.
>>23957538I would have enjoyed it if it was dumb tournament shit or if it was alternate timeline shit, but it was so short there was barely anything of interest happening.
>>23958989Anon that stat is misleading, lesbian women often have a past history of heterosexual dating before realizing they are lesbian. It's still mostly men doing domestic abuse
I felt that Nyaan should have died. She didn't need to survive all the way.
>>23969625
>>23957538>but then it wasIt was that from the start.
>>23960490>those who wanted to see the new mobile suits barely got anythingHorseshit:>Gundam>Guncannon>Guntank>MP Guncannon>Hamrabi>Psycho>Zaku>Rick Dom>Gyan>Zeon-made GM (Gelgoog)>Braw Bro>Magellan-class>Salamis-class>Musai-class>Pegasus-class>Chivvay-class>Gwazine-classWHAT THE FUCK MORE DID YOU WANT?! A complete rethread of the entire MS genealogy all the way to Victory?Look, Yamashita even designed you a Quax Zakrello.
>>23999032>WHAT THE FUCK MORE DID YOU WANTany of them to get more than 180 seconds of screen time
>>23999264>any of them to get more than 180 seconds of screen timeAre you going to complain about Unicorn episode 4 as well?
>>23999264Plenty of them did.
>>23957553that’s CC fans (a shame because turn A is actually pretty good) AS fans are biological dykes
>>23960490anyone who expected anything after seeing the first trailers for this should have known better lmao
>>23999032>WHAT THE FUCK MORE DID YOU WANT?!them not to be lazy dogshit?
>>23957538It needed double the episodes.
>>24000850Same, if Tsurumaki had the will to go beyond what he was familiar with. Though that would require stretching Amate/Machu's trip to Earth beyond being in India.
>>24000874Retard.
>>24000896AI reply.
>>24000874>if Tsurumaki had the will to go beyond what he was familiar with. It's not "will", but ability. In other words, the Tsurumaki/Enokido brain trust is simply incapable of writing anything else but overcompressed FLCL-type stuff. It's like asking Okuichi to knock it off with the dangling plot threads.FLCL itself succeeded because of its visual style carrying it over, but that's the only example. All of their other attempts (Diebuster, Quax) have fallen flat on their face. Could it pain them to elaborate on the elements of the story, instead of just checking a list?>Machu is obsessed with Earth and its gravity>she realizes it's the same as in space (IT ISN'T, YOU IMBECILES; ROTATIONAL PSEUDO-GRAVITY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE REAL THING), so it's not an issue anymore for herSure, more episodes could've helped matters, but I don't think Tsurumaki is even capable of doing that.
>>24000850It already had about twice as many episodes as it had enough story for
