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What'll be the remaining two new DLC units?
>>2396464530th and Lunedrache upgrade
NO shiony bulli allowed past this post
Happy 68th birthday, Sho Hayami.
>>23964650Please give me a Da-Garn,Max,Kei,Sandman,Gablae,Bern combo attack
>>23964645Imagine if Echika gets her own Ninjabot and the A Advent is left to the others. Last attack is a combo between the 3 siblings.
>>23964655Could always give Izana a mech although she is most likely the new supporter
How's translator-san taking the news?
GUESS WHO'S BACK
>>23964652Was the reason why K skipped stuff because of it being more Kira-centric? Though, plenty people also praise it for making Cagalli more active than the show, even letting you still put her in Akatsuki even after she gives it to Neo in the story.
>>23964650Amazing the guy's almost 70 and still has the same voice he had in the 80s for the most part.
Which changes or additions would you like to see for the Z2 remaster?
>>23964660https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOPTVBFpgM
>>23964655holy sex>>23964665more boob bouncing
>>23964645Li-Brasta B and R.
>>23964650Remember when he was a spider kaijin that loved traps?
>>23964645Genion/Gai/Geminion Rayyeah yeah hibiki bad and all that jazz but I really like the mech
>>23964658Yeah, the bond mechanics Zero introduced were the start of a lot of problems for Trails. Rean gets a lot of flack for it but Lloyd should to, that mother fucker somehow still isnt banging Elie every night like he should be, cause of said bond mechanics meaning the player could have picked Rixia or Noel (The most based choice). Van so far is a happy medium with the connect events, though even Kondo has admitted that some of said events, such as Elaines in Horizon, shoulda been main story. Heres hoping they dont fuck it up in 2.
>>23964645Red Five Plus
>>23964662K isn't so much Kira centric as speed running the whole fucking plot as quick as possible. There's basically 3 Destiny stages, Berlin, Angel Down then right to the finale all within like 5 stages of each other and before the game is half done. You get SF IJ and Akatsuki right at the final Destiny stage.
>>23964665If there's a way for them to give the ZEUTH characters more to do instead of just being hanger-ons to establish continuity, that'd be cool
>>23964667BACK AGAINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23NRARoRkQ
The trinity.
>>23964665Unlikely, but I'd like them to add Lost Stories and Lancelot & Guren onto the Geass plots.I just wanna see them in SRW
>>23964660>>23964667>>23964677I'M BACK IN THE BUILDING AGAIN
>>23964665I'm not expecting too much aside from 3D maps, renders for cutscenes instead of portraits, and a couple non-Z3 units getting updated.
>>23964665Nothing really for Hakai. Well Lancelot and Tallgeese to stick around but there's really no way to do that without fucking up the plot so. For Saisei though I'd be nice to have Zechs and Bushido join endgame as well as all the other characters that survive but don't join you like Anew and what not. It will fuck up Z3 but who cares I doubt they're redoing that one.
>>23964655Imagine if she got her pits licked by me.
>>23964673shut up.
>>23964675I have heard the final battle happens halfway through the game like even the developers wanted to get it done as quickly as possible.
You guys they will just do Saisei as a DLC expansion of Hakai this time instead of making it a separate game?
>>23964685No
>>23964655With the size of that ship, the big cannon is practically a colony laser.
>>23964687Yeah they just wanted the strife between Kira and Shinn done and everyone on the same side ASAP. That's also why it's been post series pretty much always since then.
>>23964687The idea was to use Destiny (and Fafner) to cause Mist to have a meltdown and start to dislike humanity. Unfortunately, with K being K, a lot of it was just rushed/awkwardly written and as a result its just middling.
>>23964688I don't see how. Saisei is an even longer game that Hakai.
>>23964665Some modern additions like Assist characters, 3d grid and modern portraits wouldn't hurt of course. Not saying they have to change how Z2 is completely played with too much modern stuff but If they are going to as far to redo the whole thing in the Y engine then at least put as much work in it instead of being too "faithful" to the original. Aside I don't expect much "new" content over base but man they should something ZEUTH being just in the game with not much to do or even lacking some proper attacks. I think giving then side-missions could work well for then. I would gladly take new units but is better to have some fair expectations.
>500 combo attacksCool, does that mean Domon and Master Asia can do Ultimate Tenkyoken again?
I don't remember, what was the Z Gundam situation in Z2? Post plot but with Char still as Quattro and Amuro in the Nu?
>>23964673Lloyd only has three girls (Tio doesn't really count because she's more like a little sister) compared to Rean's dozen strong harem. That's probably why.
>>23964688Saisei is not just Hakai with different units, it also had some reworking done to units, spirits, skillsets, etc.It would be like selling Alpha Gaiden as a DLC for Alpha 1.
>>23964645I think the most likely but worst possibility is actually two Lunedrache upgrades for each protagonist. Hopefully, it's jut one upgrade for both and then something else actually surprising.
>>23964698Post plot with it becoming clear Char really needs the Sazabi but they insist on holding out on you.
>>23964698Yes, the game even used Zeta Amuro over CCA Amuro since they wouldn't do CCA plot until Z3.
>>23964701Why would Lunedrache get another upgrade?
>>23964697Didn't we see all new attacks in the trailer already? They said it's 12 total
>>23964700They can do that dynamically throughout the game at certain plot points, wouldn't be the first time SRW has done such a thingAnyway, I know Saisei has a lot of new units compared to your average DLC expansion, but I think having the entire story be playable start to finish on a single save in a single executable would be a desirable thing to have. It's not like we have PSP limitations anymore
Suzuki, Zechs, and Eida were temporarily playable so you could rework the former as permanent
Dramata is most likely working on the Z2 remaster considering she worked on all SRW since XI wouldn't be surprised if she or anyone she works with will never touch the Z series and maybe more older games non-officially ever againThere is no reason to risk jeopardizing your job with a fantranslation or a fully translated LP
>>23964709Suzaku being permanent would probably depend entirely on whether or not they decide to spare Euphie.
>>23964708That could be possible I guess but the game should be able to let you just jump saisei straight up instead of locking it to postgame. Basically do the PS2 OGs method with both games already available from the get-go with the option to carry over progress to the second game if you want.
>>23964699Its that plus Zero and Azure came out way after in the west. Even then though, Lloyd still got half the city pining for him, which is extremely funny when you consider he only has eyes for his sister in law and Elie. Man, Van really is just Lloyd 2 now that i think about it. Just a little edgier
>>23964711Didn't Euphemie died like in canon but then popped up in Saisei-hen still alive or something like that?
>>23964708>>23964712There's quite a few skills in Hakai that didn't return to Saisei, so they'd end up having to do a bit of a balancing pass for both of them to be congruent.
>>23964711Which they can't do because that would screw up the rest of Geass's plot in Saisei.
>>23964709>EidaThat's weird. Why didn't they just do it the same the handheld games do if they actually bothered to make her a unit?
>>23964715She only appears if you do the trust Zero route.
>>23964718You have to have R-Daigun as a unit because of Nova's plot. Its also annoying to devote two+ slots just for a unit unless the unit is a massive shitwrecker on the level of SRX or its a cast like L/UX/BX where there's enough deployment slots that you don't mind making one for dedicated combination fodder.
>L-Gaim II and Billbine combo attackIf they're gonna keep forcing Show on the Billbine, then at least give Shion the special Bellvine cut-ins that Show has.
>>23964716Also Athena from Orguss is an actual unit in Hakai but demoted to a summon in Saisei for some reason
>>23964718They really don't like combining on stage units anymore. Even G Falcon was permanently combined with Gundam X when it showed up in Saisei. I think it's because roster space would be wasted
>>23964722Missing cut-in aside Y REALLY wants you to put Shion in the Bellvine
>>23964709It was weird that they weren't temporarily available for the last few stages in Hakai, same for Sergei and Soma.
>>23964721Isn't Nova post plot in Z2 though or am I misremembering?
>Z2 RemasterHeck Yeah! My man Crowe is back!>No OG FinalThe dream is dead.
>>23964727Pretty sure the plot is done in Z2.1, I think there is a route split where you either fight Wakamoto or Lord Genome
>>23964657Why would anyone complain? You could rip the new english translation and insert it into the fan translation.
>>23964725Speaking of cut-ins, Fa has them in Z2 but not in later games.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2zB9_g1QA
>>23964727Nova has plot but is really scarce, like 3 to 4 stages at best. You fight Moon WILL in both games.
>>23964678Busy day
>>23964689Ignore him, he's probably going to start seething about his "lesbo" boogeyman again
>>23964726They're all enemies at that point.
>>23964727Hakai-hen was one of the few times they kind of did the plot, Saisei-hen is where the plot is more or less done but they get their finisher and the Dragon ship later during the events of Classic Dancouga ova.
>>23964728OGfags get what they deserve
>>23964732Nova didn't have much in L either since Linebarrels and Macross F took up 90% of the plot
>>23964735Like that hasn't stopped people from joining temporarily before.
>>23964739it's not like there's much for it to have in the first place
>>23964731From Z, when Z3 came out, they tried giving cut-ins to most protagonist units, but side characters got the shaft. They added some in Z3.2, but Fa got passed and the rest is history.
>>23964732I mean I like it but it was pretty thin plot wise even it it's own show. Interject in some battles, fight R-Daigun a couple times, upgrade, moon will, jack off to Aoi. It fits pretty well wherever you want to stick it.
Self Detonation time.
stupid sexy chirico time
>>23964745Chirico killing the Anti-Spiral with a pistol is canon for both Votoms and TTGL
>>23964728OG is a dead series. The MOST you could hope for is another OG2 remake with the stuff from bad beat bunker in it.
>Remastering Z2 instead of Z1>Remastering Z2.1 and Z2.2 individually instead of packaging both together What is it with B.B. Studio that causes them to constantly make the worst decisions?
So is DD going to get to GGG Final or just finish up the TV series?
>>23964739Nova literally does not have much plot in the first place.>Dancouga gets formed>Dancouga beats up some terrorists>R-Daigun beats them up>They eventually beat R-Daigun>Moon Will shows up and they beat the first enemy>MAXGOD>They go into space and winWhat L handles weirdly is them getting GBM after Moon Will shows up for the first time which leads to Nova having a terrible midgame.
>>23964732>>23964743There's also the fact a portion of Dancouga Nova plot is mre or less mixed. with the original Dancouga group. The original team helps the Nova team in Z2.1 and then the inverse happens in Z2.2
>>23964748OGs altogether is still shorter than packing both Hakai and Saisei into one game. I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out why they chose Z2 over Z1.
>>23964528>Well plot wise it is one of the most important series in YMore than that, Y's overall plot practically mirrors that of Arc.
>>23964748Apparently is not going to be some small remastering from what it sounds like. Wouldn't surprise me if is closer to remake but Japanese have a weird view about it.
>>23964754Because they're gay as fuck
>>23964758Then you are an idiot.
>>23964738>>23964747I will just leave that dead horse. OG were the frens we made along the way.>>23964756Now you got me scared that they are gonna move every animation to the 3D stuff they have been doing for the last entries>Gutting the best Nu animations the franchise ever hadThat would be disgusting. But let's wait and see.
>>23964747Oh I declare there shall be a new OG one day. But it will be a hard reboot, with no returning characters. Instead using the titles that have not shown up yet; W, K, L, UX, BX, Z, VTX30Y, Neo, ACE
>>23964754>OGs altogether is still shorter than packing both Hakai and Saisei into one game.Never be a lawyer anon because anyone could tell you why reselling a remaster of a half finished game from 15 years ago at full price is not a goof a good argument to make>I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out why they chose Z2 over Z1.There isn't a good argument of choose a prequel over a sequel
>>23964718The console team just seemed allergic to giving you Eida for any extended periods of time as a separate unit and gimping her moves. She only has Dan-Stinger and Blade Twin; she doesn't have Absolute Hurricane at all in Z2 despite having it as a line in her gallery page. They wouldn't use said line until UX either where she was both her own unit, much like L, and was by herself for like half the game.>>23964727Nova did its entire plot in Hakai-hen, except Moon WILL survives and shows up again in Saisei.OG Dancougar is a weird case of where it has plot; it just isn't its own since we're already at Final and its mostly playing support for Nova. Come Saisei, they do get God Bless surprisingly. I remember when the trailer dropped back in the day and everybody in my group lost their shit over seeing the green dragon thing from the OVA.
>>23964762The OG series really has no reason to exist when every new SRW game has plenty of DLC fanservice of OG characters from old games
>>23964756They're just going to implement everything into the Y engine which means everything is going to look way less dynamic
>>23964747All it literally needs is one final game to finish it. That's it. They don't need to drag it out long term just finish it with Alpha 3.
>>23964764You even fight Muge Zorbades in Saisei-hen.
>>23964763Do you think honestly think that this is some CTRL+C > CTRL+V and run some upscale filters tier port or something?
>>23964748Releasing both separately is purely a cash grab and cost effective thing since they could fit both together easily, but Z2 games are actually decent so I'll allow it. Z2 first is almost certainly just because Wing Geass and 00 tv are in it and they're popular in the west while most of Z1's mainline series are obscure things like Gravion Aquarion and a bunch of Showa stuff that never got released.
>>23964769They're saying it isn't right nowBut it might end up being that way when they decide it takes too much work to do more
>>23964772>Z2 first is almost certainly just because Wing Geass and 00 tv are in it and they're popular in the west while most of Z1's mainline series are obscure things like Gravion Aquarion and a bunch of Showa stuff that never got released.Also TV Geass and Gurren Lagann which is being requested a lot on the western side. It makes sense why they picked it the more you see the highlights of that roster in comparison.
>>23964774Don't forget TTGL as well
>>23964772Z1's biggest features are SEED Destiny on Setsuko's route and Eureka Seven on Rand's. Both are pretty decently well known outside Japan, if not TTGL/Geass level
>>23964753That's the kind of thing I like to see.
>>23964772I don't think you actually appreciate how big both games are.Hakai + Saisei together is 189 (86 + 103).Z1 is 107.
I'm gonna take a guess that the stage Izuru and the Dynazenon team gets their team up, the rest of the rabbits, especially Kei are gonna be panicking that their leader seems like is getting poached away from them.
>>23964772>>23964774Also, unlike say Alpha, Z2 doesn't have any series like Giant Robo or SDF Macross that would cause licensing issues.
>>23964777>Both are pretty decently well known outside Japan, if not TTGL/Geass levelLook not saying Eureka and Seed Destiny aren't popular, but I don't think they are TTGL/Geass normie level of casual.
>>23964781Yeah SDF/DYRL is still an issue outside of Japan and Giant Robo is still an issue everywhere. Alpha remake won't happen anytime soon
>>23964783>Seed Destiny>Not casual level
>>23964783Neither is SRW itself though
And now we go down the slippery slope of selling your soul and catering to westoids
>>23964788To be fair Wing is just as popular in Japan
>>23964786To be fair Z2 Seed Destiny units anyway.>>23964787No but is not like Z1 will attract the casual player when a good portion of the roster is obscure, specially for the west.
>>23964788They've been doing this since X, the difference is X was a bait and switch with the westoid pandering since Geass and TTGL were postplot while Z2 is fullbore
>>23964788Let's not pretend they haven't done that back in the day. But it is what most likely keeps the IP alive with the current mess at Bamco.
>>23964790It feels like someone's missing
>>23964794I thought X was meant to cater to Wataru fans because that show was popular in China or something. T also had Cowboy Bebop another series that's popular in the West, but they did fuck all with it. 30 had J-Decker because of Korea.
>>23964788>le westoid pandering as if Wing, 00, TTGL and Geass werent popular in Japan as well
With DD apparently reaching its final chapter it's either ending or it'll enter a state where it'll stay online but just won't receive as much extensive updates, kinda like Fate/Grand Order. If that's the case the DD team might have some freed up time.
>>23964797Wataru is popular in moonland itself
>>23964796Chise's not a pilot and the other Rabbits can't stand Izuru.
>>23964797Wataru is one of the pillars of 90s mecha anime. Them leaving it out of NEO aka Super 90s Wars has always been one of the biggest complaints leveraged against the game.
>>23964796I think so too
>>23964799They'll probably release another mobile game before it dies much like how DD came out while X-Omega was still around.
>>23964797Wataru was popular in Asia in general. You couldn't escape it. It was goddamn everywhere.
>>23964799They're just going to immediately be thrown back into the mobage mines with the next gacha
>>23964799Have them work on either the Z2 remaster or a new SRW, and the other team work on what the DD team wasn't assigned to.
>>23964788You know the shit that's popular in Z2 is popular with nerds all over the place right
>We will have Muteki trio will be back Z2ROne step closer to the return of Daioja.
>>23964809i've been playing GC and daiohja is really not impressing me
>>23964809To be honest as far as the retro bots go I never cared for them too much. I always preferred the Nagahama bots.
>>23964809legitimately did not even know Z2 added Trider, thought he didn't come along until Z3I hope Watta has some good dialogue with the Dai Guard Crew
Trider never leaves the team. Free PP for life.
Oh boy I can't wait for infinite MUGEN PUNCH all over again
>>23964814Trider was specifically added because of Daiguard
>>23964818The free PP and I had Trider bootleg toy as a kid which I didn't realize it was Trider until years later so I have a sentimental attachment
>>23964493speaking of Dai Guard, this song is my favorite song of anything in Z2https://youtu.be/rXVjyV3ybGoKouhei Tanaka is the greatest Japanese anime composer, it just is what it is
No GaoGaiGar, no play.
>>23964819For me it's
>>23964827This but Demonbane
>>23964767You could say the same thing about MD and look what happened.
>>23964828This somehow looks even more retarded than it did in Z1. How did this show get sequels?
Will they keep the lv 99 Pilot exploit with the repair units
>>23964826I love Dai-Guard, it's great
>>23964831Pachinko
>Oh boy it's announcement day!>Z2 and ONLY Z2 RemasterAh. Time to get back on the "OGs next stream" hamster wheel.
will they ruin Exia?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gpgMuHlIgA
I can't wait to see all the boob bouncing in HD! Along with our beloved regular Getter 1.
>>23964833Repair exploit? They had to give out tons of exp with repair because Ptolemaios has no attacks. No different than resupply.
>>23964841I want to see Baldios get another handjob
>>23964842I like Shin Getter and the fact that each Open Get animation is different but I miss the regular one. I doubt it'll happen but I hope it also has unique Open Get attacks for each Get machine.
>>23964846In a perfect world Getter Robo Armageddon sould hog up the most resources.
>>23964851>In a perfect world Toei/Manga Getter would hog up the most resources.Ftfy
>>23964854>Manga GetterSounds good to me
I'm just mad they didn't do Z 2.1 and 2.2 at the same time. Total skip fuck Bandai
>>23964859They might be just testing waters for more remasters (and if they sell good enough) starting with one of the popular ones, also releasing just one part first means that we don't have to wait longer to have something other than more Y DLC.
>>23964867Each Z2 is the length of a full game. Doing both of them at once in a double pack like what that guy wants means that he'd better be prepared for Bamco to charge top dollar that he probably wouldnt pay anyway.
>>23964881They're going to be charging top dollar either way
Time for bullyhttps://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14318329
>>23964885Not only that, but you better believe they will strip shit out to sell as DLC(such as music that was previously in the game) as is the modern trend.
>>23964650The return of Sandman is gonna be fun. Happy birthday.
The face that runs the place
>>23964942Can't wait
>>23964942Oh shit, I didn't even considered the fact we may get a resurgence of Shiony memes.
I'm probably the only person who cares, but I want this to be as faithful as possible:-HD touch up in the same vein as the sprites from Z2 to Z3 -Same choreography -Same cut-insThe only thing I'd liked changed are the attack only units being turned into regular units.
>>23964942>7:42When the bullying goes too far
>>23964942
>>23965026Not unless they actually add more deployment slots
>>23965015Why is her theme so good?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfLtYYYo_Es
>>23965051So it helps making the bullying be more satisfying.
Crowe should just end up with Shiony since her popularity eclipses Marg and Esther
>>23965051Z2 had really good OG music in generalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLLEmni6q0
Shiony is a much better teacher than Suzune
>>23964772>obscure thingsAnon its SRW none of those titles are popular with normie crowds I'm not even sure where this notion that Geass is popular in the west stems from because it underperformed in the west pretty hard
It's been ages since I played Z2 but Shiony pretty much gets the katejina treatment in Z2.2 right?
Best Z2 girl is Roze.
>>23965079Nowhere near as bad, She became a teacher
Neil Dylandy sucks
>>23965079No but she's a hobo for a while
I took the liberty of importing SRW Y from Japan and miraculously, it became English upon playing it. No DLC though. If I buy it all from the Japanese e-shop (because rock bottom yen) would it still work in English?
>>23965092Restoration will go full Yaoi and have Crowe and Uther romance while Marg watches in the corner
>>23965029>too farThat's when the bullying really starts
>>23965078>because it underperformed in the west pretty hardSource?
>>23965097Yeah. All versions of Y have all languages.
>>23965159>>23965097Can also confirm. I double dipped with the (no longer) Ultimate Edition or whatever it's called as the physical delivery was taking too long. Imported Japanese game card via Play-Asia linked up with all of the DLC from it. Haven't purchased the Expansion Pack but I see no reason it won't work with the game card. Mind you, from what I can see 4400jpy will only net a $3 or so discount.
Is the expansion and dlc pack worth it in Y or should I just wait for sales?
>>23964819Fuck the moon.Now it'll have actual HD assets they can recycle for future games. Have they ever done the movie?
>>23965223The expansion is pretty hefty but Y (and 30) just drag on too much to begin with.I'd say if you're doing a NG+ run or if you're in the middle of your playthrough they're worth. Otherwise, wait for a sale.
>>23965223There are 4 packs with units/story now.DLC1DLC2Expansion PackAnniversary Expansion PackAnniversary pack isn't out yet, for the previous ones just buy it based on whether you want those series in the game or not. They add new maps and story too, but it can end up feeling like they're bloating the game if you don't care for the additions since base Y is already pretty big.DLC 1 and 2 try to integrate the series in Y's universe, while the Expansion makes most new units come from other worlds. The DLC units get some unique battle lines, but they don't get lines in the main plot. Only in their own DLC and then the upcoming Anniversary Expansion.Although you might want to buy the DLC packs 1 and 2 bundle rather than by themselves because that adds the T and X protagonists.
>Solve everything with Maximum Break even at 0 upgradesI can't see myself needing anything beyond like just enough to match what enemies have.
with inflation I hope they 10x crowe's debts
>>23964788They have no choice. The Japanese game market is dead for everything outside of gatcha
>>23965252The USA's 40T debt?Yeah, that's actually Crowe's.
will THE DOUJIN get remastered too when we inevitably get the Z3.1 Remaster?
>>23965226>Have they ever done the movie?Sort of? Hakai-hen gives Solar the Flower Punch from the extended TV episode. As for the actual OVA segment, no; which sucks because I want the Aquarion-beast boss fight.
If they don't give me OG Final right now I'm dropping a third nuke on them. I'll do it
>>23965266>when we inevitably get the Z3.1 Remaster?
>>23964781>>23964785Do we know which games are pretty much never-ever getting remasters thanks to rights fuckery?
>>23965249Well, ex-hard forbids any weapon upgrade so everything is designed to be cleared with just base power. MB is also overpowered in 2nd og because you can use it as many times in a turn
>>23965279Anything with OG Macross and DYRL, so Alpha series and Scramble Commander 2, unless Harmony Gold fucking dies for real in the very near future. Anything else is a bit nebulous, like entries with Tatsunoko IPs.
>>23964665If it's purely a remaster with no new additions, then all I can really hope for is that they update the graphics to modern standards without cutting any attacks. If they do add new stuff, then I hope they go ham with it.
>>23965279I would say anything with SDF/DYRL is definitely out. They would have to redo the entire story of Alpha to remove it.
>>23965266>>23965277They'd have to completely revamp it if they did. They KNOW they fucked up the original, that's why hype was so low on prerelease streams and why V made such a big point of "Hey we didn't make everyone not the lead a summon this time" in the trailers.
>>23965279W because of Tekkaman (Golion is probably fine though)
>>23965279Anything with Giant Robo, or original Macross. Or at least original Macross getting an out of Japan release. Giant Robo they just can't do period.
>>23965290Golion was sold to WEP before W came out. They aren't the problem.
>>23964796Since this is explicitly a Dynazenon attack, Gridknight doesn't show up
>>23965266I want a new one with these two. Just imagine the feral bed breaking sex they would have.
>>23965293Also Golion chogokin literally had Voltron on the box. WEP would probably be happy seeing golion in SRW
I think clearly the reason they're doing this is to stockpile more HD assets for the future. It's pretty clear at this point the days of them redoing all the sprites every few years are over and we're gonna be keeping what was made in the last decade long term. That also means a Z3 remaster probably isn't happening because those assets are already HD.
>>23965297Pretty much. All they'd probably need to do is call it Voltron on the series list, similar to how Yamato was Star Blazers.
It's crazy that we live in a world where Z2 is getting a worldwide english release it doesn't feel like such a big deal. 10 years ago this would've been unthinkable.
>>23965266Of course anon, I just spoke with Terada's wife and she told me both Z3 games are already in the works for a full HD AAA remake so "THAT" will follow soon, believe me.Also the Z3 remake will feature Angel Blade units and the deluxe physical edition will come with a new OVA made by Obari and Umetsu.
>>23965299I doubt it's an asset library thing and more that remasters are quicker to put out than new games and Bandai is capitalizing on the fact these are effectively brand new games to the vast majority of people outside of Japan.They'll keep doing these so long as they make money and have games left to remaster.
>>23965301We basically live in a world where nothing is Japanese only anymore. Every obscure anime, every game if made typically gets an western release. It seemed unthinkable a few years ago
>>23965300Which would probably be fine since Japan doesn't really care too much about GoLion anyway.
>>23965307L-Gaim finally got a western release just recently
>>23965305Which is also their MO with recent Tales of and Gundam games that haven't been in english before, it also helps fill the release schedule.That said, the fact they are bothering doing this with a duology of games that have a big list of licenses means Bamco do trust the SRW franchise to make some bank now.
>>23965279Maybe Tatsunoko stuff, other issues seem to be limited to music fuckeryAfter Z2 is done, D would probably need the least new animations for a remaster
You wanna know what would be a good qol? That special voiced lines took priority above all else. I tried recording for louise's special lines against heero and it took me 20 times to get it right.
>>23964790It's weird that it's a dynazenon + red five attack and not dynazenon + rabbid squad attack
>>23965316Yeah, there's the Toei Mazingers, Grendizer, Daltanious, Megazone, some MSV stuff and probably the OGs.
>>23965325Izuru finally decided to hang out with people who don't treat him like shit
>>23965289Jigoku was well liked. It was Tengoku that was disappointing.
>>23965305All I can think of is if the new engine really made animating take way less time overall it gives them freedom to do shit like remasters while the writers work on the next game.
>>23965305>remasters are quicker to put out than new games It's not so simple in SRW's case. SRW ports, remakes remasters etc have always been rare because reobtaining all the same licenses used to create the original product in the first place has always been a hurdle that probably isn't worth the effort in most cases, especially when there's newer shows to feature anywayThe whole idea is kind of antithetical to how we're told the process of creating SRW works. Terada always said they only tried to have a specific list in mind in the early days before that started causing too many problems getting the roster they wanted and had to be abandoned
>>23965327I think also some Big O S1 MOTWs and make Shin Dragon's three forms separate units if they want to be 100% faithful
>>23965339I forgot the other forms were playable in D.
>>23964831firing the shoulder arrow, flipping the leg cannon and throwing the mugen punch all at the same time are pretty cool. if not for the dumb cube it would be amazing.
>>23965347>flipping the leg cannonThat's a sword
>>23965344They have very short attack lists so it wouldn't be the biggest deal. Or they just copy paste Z Shin Dragon anyways.
>>23965327>>23965339there was also some stuff from Victory that wasn't in 30, I assume
>>23965348okay maybe it's kinda stupid after all
I liked hangeki no fight back, but with diverging future it's like jam project phoned it hard lmao
>>2396535230 was actually fairly thorough with the Zanscare shit. I think there's a few grunt variants that might be missing but its not a lot.
>>23965359Victory and L-Gaim were two of the best series in 30 in terms of content
>>23965289>They'd have to completely revamp it if they did.They would have to do a full reimagining to fix that mess. It wasn't just an issue of units or animations but even in terms of writing.
>>23965296Oh yeah, Aoi was the one that actually cured Ryouma of his Saotome autism in Saisei-hen. Makes sense.
backporting VXT stuff into Z3 would've been amazing
>>23965258>if you're a sony fan
>>23964788Oh no! We might get Nu Voltron, Pacific Rim, and Transformers in a game; the horror!
>>23965352I know the first V Gundam isn't there because 30 went straight to V-Dash. So, we don't get V splitting itself apart for attacks.
>>23965380Oh yeah if they're redoing Z2 they have to reanimate the Scrander for a few stagesI guess if they did D they'd need to pick up the core fighters and such too, there's some stages where you start out deployed that way
>>23965375You say that as if anyone actually like Voltron LD after like the second season at latest
the fun part now is to think about what DLC they'll add to Z2
>>23965382That's right. Z doesn't get the God Scrander until Saisei-Hen.
>>23964643So there won't be any new update to Y after this one, right? I can finally play the complete experience of the game, right?
>>23965391What would they even add for an already bloated cast? At most it'll be crossover combos like mazinger + daiguard
>>23964665Double X to get its cut weapons like in Eternal and Battle Alliance
>>23965396This dlc requires clear data so you have to beat it anyway anon
>>23965395Shit that reminds me, Kouji doesn't even start off with the Jet Scrander in Z2. He's grounded until Stage 35. It's gonna feel so different from all the other games we've gotten the past decade man
>>23965391I doubt we are getting anything new with how the story for Z2 works, maybe if just put dimensionally displaced units not part of the Z2 plot or world. Again we don't know how faithful they are going to be with this yet, you never know if they want to pull a FF7R on us. >>23965398I'll take crossover attacks if that helps ZEUTH make up for the last of attacks until Z2.2
>>23965382>>23965395I meant Pilder not the Scrander but yeah that too
>>23965398>>23965403the most obvious is adding random OG units from other games. Like how V (?) had folks show up to do nothing
>>23965403Like a combo between Gravion and the two Dancougas to please Obari?
>>23965391>>23965403I think it depends on how long it will take until the next SRW. If there's another one the next year then probably any DLC would be minimal.If it takes longer they might want to throw some modern shows before they become too old, like GQX.
>>23965407That's already what ZEUTH's presence in the game is though
>>23965412well if anything that makes it even easier
>>23965411I don't think there's any real rush to include stuff between the inevitable next mobile game needing debuts and the fact that even Bandai doesn't put out new mech stuff that fast to shill anymore.
>>23965398Its the perfect time for Geass expanded stuff if we're getting TV plot for once
WE don't care for Toeizingers on this board.
If they want to do something extra with DLC, the FMP characters were apparently already in Z2 world but you never see then, in Z3 it is mentioned that some of your guys fought then somehow. But by that point the FMP plot hasn't even kicked yet.
Z2 roster is packed enough we don't need new series. Although I would love to see Epyon as a secret in Z2.2
>>23965418
>>23965409They should just add stuff that the original game didn't have but should have like Double Satellite Cannon, Alto/Brera combo, etc
>>23965420And wasn't Patlabor gonna be in Z3 before it got put in OE instead. I guess they could also bring Grendizer back since Toeizingers and Toei Getter returning probably isn't happening.
>>23965420>fmp without school shenaningans, not even arbalest or bonta kunwhat's even the point
>>23965422I'm sorry, Mr.Hanma, I mispoke
>>23965423I was thinking they'd add alto + basara instead. He talk no jutsu'd grace at the end of Z2.
>>23965429Well, I was more just saying stuff that is contained within a single series, otherwise I'd have mentioned obvious stuff like Mazinger/Getter combos, Mutekis, etc
>people asking for new seriesFirst we have to make sure we are actually getting back all series from the original
>>23965432What makes you think certain series are getting cut?
>>23965421Honestly they should do something about the "guest" units issue from Z2. It always felt wrong that you never get the Kokubogar from Daiguard or Susanoo from 00. Timp and Beck are also playable a couple of times too.
> Finally got Final Dynamic Special with Keiser Bros and Arc, plus more combo attacks>Could've had Final Obari Special or Final Kimura Special in 30Well, there's always next game.
>>23965432There's no reason to believe any series will be cut. That's not how any previous port/remake etc was handledUnits might well get cut though
>>23965430I wouldn't mind a Getter/Gurren Lagann combo, there are plenty of perfect scenes in Z2 for that to happen.
>>23965428Good.Now get in the fucking robot before I rape you.
>>23965442And even when F/F Final cut series from 4 it added new stuff.
>>23965445TTGL is owned by Trigger now right? I'm sure they would love it and I doubt Dynamic Pro would have an issue as well
>>23965439You better be blasting the true FDS theme while using it https://youtu.be/mTC39cPbmkk
>>23965453I just realized this is the first FDS with Kaiser since W
>>23965451Yeah considering all the crossovers that Dynamic pro is allowing it something that makes sense, the creator of TTGL would probably love it to considering his love for Getter.
>>23965456It's the first FDS in almost two decades, so yeah, unsurprising
You think Trigger might have changed their minds after all these years and allow us to actually save Kamina this time?
>>23965451>>23965459If they ever do a Z3 remake if wonder if they'll do the Quadruple Inazuma Kick that everyone was hopinf for.
What if the whole Ruination thing leads to current Z3 being removed from canon
https://x.com/discotekmedia/status/2083719551574024445>Discotek announces Big O BD>Has to use the alternative OPI get it, I really do, they have no choice but it still sucks
>>23965463Would having him alive completely change Simon's arc? Same reason Euphie couldn't be saved.
>>23965439This mother fucker is so lucky
>>23965467They've been using the non-lawsuitbait OP for decades at this point already
>>23965465That's what I'm hoping for, I wouldn't mind then pulling an FF7 Remake shit on us and this be another continuity.
>>23965465>Shin Super Robot Wars Z3
>>23965470>hot GF/wife>gets to help pilot Final GGG>Guy thinks he's coolWinning at life
>>23965469>Would having him alive completely change Simon's arcI don't believe so, no. The big thing that changes Simon is meeting Nia rather than Kamina's death. That's what causes him to finally man up and take responsibility for something
Reminder that the last FDS was in this game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiA1Hj2gl7c
>>23965477New Getter please come back
>>23965476But didn't he only end up meeting her because he was depressed over Kamina?
>>23965477Still a cruel joke that Liger wasn't a part of this
Feels weird to have Takuma as the Getter rep for the first FDS in decades knowing that Armageddon Ryoma have been reigning Supreme for years
>>23965482He met her because he was wandering around randomly and found her in a box. Not exactly something that requires Kamina to die.
>>23965483Are you that guy that got upset over Jeeg never getting into any FDS?
>>23965465I wouldn't mind if they completely change the protag by removing Hibiki altogether
>>23965469>>23965476I've thought through how Kamina living would work, and that's about right. It's even easier if you just have kamina extremely injured and out of commission and his arc is 100% in tact (this is probably what they would do if they had Kamina live). A more natural version is that Simon increasingly outshines Kamina, until Kamina willingly steps back and says he is the leader now (which is something very in-character for Kamina to do).The flip side is that Kamina is much harder to leave alive for part 2. He would not put up with Rossiu's bullshit. Unlike Kittan he has pull, and unlike Simon he would not take it lying down. Things would also get tricky with Viral.
>>23965485Oh yeah, this is the first game since XO (The 360 port of GC) to not have Ryoma in a FDS.
>>23965429>amuro hijacks 00>basara hijacks frontiercursed
Easiest way to save Kamina is have him appear to die, Simon does all his character development and then he shows up to help while fighting Lord Genome.
>>23965492Isn't his VA MIA?
>>23965493Just pull a Nicol/Master Asia and have everyone believe he's dead, and have him come back in like the last 10 stages or something.
>>23965492I'm starting to think that even the SRW staff are just sliding him him under the rug, don't know if is because of his missing VA or what but they have never acknowledged him again.
>>23965496>>23965493You don't even have to have Kamina injured or anything. Simon was already fucked up right before Kamina's death because he saw Kamina and Yoko kissing, and he had a crush on Yoko
>>23965495>amuro hijacks 00Remember this?https://youtu.be/2vTTr1mN9Sk?si=LrhNvMlr3uCfk-dt&t=839
>>23965498Since 2015
>>23965501>Simon was already fucked up right before Kamina's death because he saw Kamina and Yoko kissing, and he had a crush on YokoAnd that's also a perfect setup for him to meet Nia later and start his development arc. An scenario where Kamina doesn't die would be really interesting...
>>23965493>The flip side is that Kamina is much harder to leave alive for part 2. He would not put up with Rossiu's bullshit.They can just do it like X where Rossiu's bullshit doesn't even happen
>>23965470>>23965475I'm convinced Kei-chan is Kimura's self-insert and bless him for it.
>>23965501Kamina's death got him out of that fucked up and into a different category of fucked up (crush on Yoko instantly erased).The arc that Simon needs to go through is he believes he is nothing without Kamina, and then realizing he can stand on his own. It's hard for him to go through that without putting Kamina out of the picture at least briefly.>>23965506Also totally true.
>>23965500I mean Advent appeared in 30 and didn't even make a vague reference of him despite him being really involed in Hibiki's life
>>23965485WE HAVE a Ryoma to use. I don't care if he's DLC. Shouldn't Getter Arc dwarf the Mazins? Like how Jet Jaguar was in Arc's hand?
Bamco killed Ryuu Murakami (Hibiki's VA) and Terada got kicked out of the franchise for knowing too much
>>23965513I don't think they want to have to deal with the legal trouble of gatekeeping an attack behind 2 separate DLC.
>>23965510Rand shows up a lot in mobile games and even Crow is getting his own dedicated focus in the Y DLC. I'm starting to think that Hibiki wasn't that liked in japan or something, he was also kind of a chunii style character so I assumed they loved him.
>>23965507
>>23965509Also, don't the other characters just see him as Kamina's sidekick at first? Nia was the first to not see him that way because she never knew him.
>>23965519It's a shame, because I actually like the mech. Maybe they can give it to Crowe instead.
>>23965520Do you have the scene of him and Ernie geeking out over robots?
>>23965521yes. even yoko was like "this guy can't handle this", even after she was explicitly told by kamina that simon is the mandebatably, there were some characters that looked up to him. also ryoma, who could tell that kamina was really deferring to/building up simon
>>23965513The only time they've kinda come close to showing the size difference in the sprites was Z1, Getter Dragon actually looks big there.
>>23965525Ryoma takes over the the big brother role in some ways after Kamina's passing. He just not so on the face because he wants Simon to do some growing on his own and can't replace Kamina entirely.
>>23965526Maybe they should have remastered Z1 first after all...
>>23965531I want a Z1 port too but thats a really dumb reason
Speaking of characters who may or may not be saved.
>>23965535She is saved in the believe Zero route, isn't she?
>>23965526It looks the same size as the Mazingers
>>23965536Yeah, though Z3 ignores it.
>>23965535>>23965536Euphie does show up alive in Z2.2 after her dead in Z2.1 but only in the Trust Zero route of course. So yeah they can get away with that one too.
Somewhat lost with the Z2 remake announcement, did they say anything about Y?When is it finally done?
>>23965535aren't quattre's war crimes an order largeralso there's that running theory that euphemia's death was necessary for Geass good end
>>23965535They should let us save Neil and have two Cherudim in Saisei
>>23965540New DLC in 3 days, comes with a bunch of new attacks and Crowe
>>23965543Also Calibarn but not the full WfM S2
>>23965538Z3 was fucking weird about stuff like that, they kept Four alive but Stella was apparently dead. Also seems like the trust Zero route never happened despite being the more interesting one in Z2.
>>23965543Thanks.After 30, I want to keep everything contained
>>23965542wouldn't it just be Dynames Repair instead?
>>23965535Might be too peaceful. And a Bad End
>>23965548I always thought the normal Destiny route in Z1 was canon until Rey randomly showed up in Z3
>>23965542Funnily enough, I think Card Chronicle out of all games kept Neil alive and you could have both Lockons.
>>23965539>>23965541I imagine the compromise would be putting her in a coma that way Suzaku can still hate Lelouch and a lot of the R2 stuff could still happen.
>>23965446But that's a guy If you do that, it's gay
>>23965552imagine dooming the world because you want to tell a funny joke in the moment
>>23965548Stella was still alive. I believe Talia was still dead even though Rey was still alive.
>>23965558You doom the world if she lives
>>23965557I'm straight, so everything I fuck is automatically a woman.Especially Shinji.
>>23965560it's still weird to me the shortly before the events of geass C.C. was the head of the geass institute or whatever
>>23965562
What's with the Yujiro roleplaying?
Does Z2 do anything funny with Aeolia/VEDA and Wiseman? They can't have both accurately predicted everything
>>23965566We'll get Baki in SRW after Yuujiro debuts in T8.My uncle works at Banpresto.
Cute...
If DD's ending eventually, does that mean we're getting Freedom after the Z2 remaster?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ1jOeBcPa0
>>23965552this is literally just gundam seed
>>23965572Yeah, but unlike SEED the game doesn't treat is as a good ending.
>>23965571Do we really need more Gundam Seed? We have better series like X and IBO
>>23965568Apparently Aeolia predicted the fucking Hakai/Ruin incident so whatever the fuck
>>23965574They'll do it because it's popular.>>23965575And doesn't Heero learn Zero's identity from the Zero System.
>>23965519I guess not even the Japs could tolerate a Special Snowflake teenager as a protag for a Big Saga ending
>>23965566Yujiro vs Master Asia?Normally I would never ever doubt Touhou Fuhai but I'm quite aware Yujiro has a billion layers of absolute bullshit.
>Geass is becoming more and more Super Robot as the time goes by
>>23965578I think they do to some extend, but Hibiki was a walking collection of overdone anime tropes to the point it felt like a parody at times.
>>23965577Heero already knew who Zero was before getting Wing Zero. Instead, getting Wing Zero made him antagonize Lelouch until they learned each other's resolve.
>>23965581How long before Geass does a crossover with Godzilla? Nearly everyone else has.
>>23965581It has the required aesthetic for a Flamboyant Super Robot Show
>>23965585Y...
>>23965587I meant outside of SRW.
>>23965575Aeolia predicted a bunch of stuff which is why VEDA makes Celestial Being collaborate with the rest of the series. Wiseman was one of the characters hyping the baal or whatever to hype up Z3.>>23965577If I recall correctly he knew, but the Zero system predicted all the shit he was about to do later or something like that.
>>23964707Yeah, unfortunate that we didn't get a Domon/Shinn combo to go along with things.
>>23965586Really, Geass's setting and aesthetic is actually more over the top than most super robot shows, It takes something really special and crazy like Giant Robo to outdo Geass
>>23965590I thought it was like it told him Lelouch was gonna do evil stuff but was vague about what it was exactly.
Is Star Diver the most meh DLC series in Y? I don't hate it or anything but it doesn't really stand out
How do you feel about its return?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqowJu_R3y0
>>23965591Suzumura could even do some lines for Shinn, too
>>23965598It'll be my first experience with Wing TV outside of a few fuzzy memories of catching it on Toonami all those decades agoEager to see if it's the so bad it's good kind of retarded
>>23965601>Wing plot>In hakaianon...
>>23965078The only way you can think this is if you don't interact with normalfag anime watchers at all. They've watched a total of three mecha shows and those are: Evangelion, Gurren Lagann and Code Geass. Maybe they'll have watched Gundam Wing and/or G Gundam as a kid too.
>>23965591No cross series attacks for Gundam at all this time. Even Zeta left out of from the Dunbine/L-Gaim combo.
>>23965596I actually really wanted Star Driver like 10 years ago. Couldn't really care now though.
>>23965595Takuto at least has a lot of lines, I guess. Mamoru Miyano seems to like SRW well enough, even when he's not doing Setsuna
I kinda hope that there are at least a couple more of these combo attacks in the game that weren't in the trailer, because this was the perfect chance for a Kira-Athrun-Shinn combo.
>>23965605I mean that's just par for the course, Gundam combos in general are rare outside of G Gundam
>>23965613how about a shinn-asuka combo
>>23965605It'd be nice if they brought back stuff like generic team attacks the gundams had on the GBA games.
>>23965613Only one left and it's almost definitely the og siblings combo
>>23965613Unfortunately they don't hide anything these days, for the most part, and we've seen 12 new attacks, matching what was listed.Frankly it's a wonder we still don't know fully what the five new units are.
>>23965622>aura battler cannon>choudenji double cutter>arc open get>jet jaguar's charge>dyna soldier combination>final dynamic special>operation meteor>dynazenon X red 5 combo>arc x jet jaguar>lgaim x billbine>double VF-31>choudenji god strikeFuck it's really 12, I thought I was missing one
>librasta T>calibarn>gekkoei>shinkiro>blue dyna soldierso that's already 5 too
The last assist crew...
>>23965628Unless blue dino just shows up for the attack, would be weird to make it a full unit that way
>>23965628I don't think the Gekkoei and Shinkiro are separate units
>>23965628>blue dyna soldierIt's confirmed to be just an attack>new gekkoeiis a new unit>shinkiroit's almost 100% surely just part of an attack for new Gekkoei. It's a Lelouch unit and it's part of an attack with Gekkoei where they didn't show anyone else speaking.We know all 12 new attacks for old units, but not all 5 units.
>mfw it took the base game, two DLC packs and two expansion packs to get playable Tarak
Maybe it's Tarak and Eri piloted Aerial? Would that count as a new unit?
>>23965562But that's still gay, you're just accepting of trans
>>23965633>>23965634Speaking of the new Gekkoei, aside from its own Shinkiro combo does it have anything going for it over the regular one?
so where will I be able to play the upcoming Z2 remake?
>>23965644Almost certainly every system that Y is on.
>>23965638You really aren't giving up hope for Tarak huh
>>23965644If you have a laptop from 10 years ago you can play it
>>23965646People were saying the same shit about Calibarn
>>23963889>>23963921>Geass really does get a lot of favoritism from SRW these days, even if they don't put the effort to give it a deep rosterprobably never happen but if we got Nightmare of Nunnally in a future game I'd be really happy
>>23965634>shinkiro>part of an attackHuh, weird, so it's just treated like a cannon then.>>23965631according to the wiki it's a separate thing from dynazenon, so i expected to be like gridknight that has a combination attack it can initiate itself. but anons already said it's just an attack, bummer
>>23965652All Dynasoldier has without the combination moves is like, it can bite things.
>>23964665Uh, what about Z1? Why start with Z2?
>>23965655I was hoping they were being cheeky trying to hide kaiser gridknight's new attack by saying it's part of dyna blue's move list
I'll never forget how Z2 Wufei was probably the best he's ever been. The only time in the history of the franchise that he's been a loyal team player.
>>23965670Has there been a history of Wufei in SRW video made yet of all the times he's been an idiot?
>>23965652I'd imagine its like Gundam Nadleeh or Seraphim a transformable backpack
>>23965670There's also X where he joins fairly early and the EW fight only happens in a flashback DLC stage.
>announce Hakai-hen Remastered which ends in a cliffhanger>don't announce Saisei-hen RemasteredWhat is Bamco's master plan?
>>23965679Same thing they did years ago and do one first and release the next one later. Is not a cheap remaster but almost remake from what it sounds like.
>>23965679Z2's a big game with a lot more units than modern SRW games get. They probably want to see how much is possible for them to do before committing to Saisei
>>23965684Not to mention that it is an easier way to redo some popular units into the new Y engine in one go, as Z2 happened to have most of then.
>>23965684I assume you mean enemy units because it has about the same amount of playable units as V
>>23965670he's an idiot who goes off on his own but yea I don't remember him betraying things
So what do you think, will they put in the same sprite poses, movelists and animations for units in Z2, just done in the new HD style, or will they copy-paste anything they can, do new HD poses for units they have to, and cull down the movelists to the standard few basic moves we see, only keeping what is necessary like moves debut in the middle of a stage?
>>23965690It'll be redone but 100% traced like units without new animation in 2nd ogs>cull down the movelistswhy do you guys love doomposting so much, they stopped doing this after T
>>23965690I don't think they are cutting anything honestly. They will most likely just redo the sprites but keep most of the attack choreography from the original game. They already plenty of assets they can use game like Godmars, Big O or Shin Mazinger from the previous HD games anyway.
what's a Hibiki
>Try to soften a retreating boss>Character lands a crit and the boss ends up running away
>>23965688Z2 has a lot more when accounting for frames/alternate forms, temporary units etcAnyway regardless, basically nothing in Hakai has any HD quality assets as of this time except for the usual trinity shit and Macross Frontier, so if it's more than just an upscale, it will actually be a more intensive project in terms of assets than the original Z2 itself was (or V for that matter) since there's nothing to copypaste for almost the entire roster
>>23965701A bunch of Chunii and fanfic oc tropes thrown into a blender.
>>23965701They talk about Hibiki alongside Z2-Z3 so I assume that people are having a serious case of Mandela effect and think that Symphogear was in Z series. Come to think about it I don't really remember what happened in Z3, especially the OG plot
which one was esther a battery
>>23965694What if we get Kamen Rider Kabuto instead?
>3 Tesla Drives, 4 A Adapters, 4 Screw Modules and it still doesn't feel like I have enough for all of the water stages in 2nd OG
>>23965703>basically nothing in Hakai has any HD quality assetsThe Mutekis, Godmars, Big O and Gurren Lagann can be easily reused as well.
>>23965706There hasn't even been a Z series after Saisei.
>>23965710Gurren Lagann has a whole lotta stuff in Z2 that wasn't in Z3 or X
https://youtu.be/JhCZjiMBAyE?si=sGpp2hQ7t3tO-cwSI'll be back, eventually, maybe
>>23965718Think we have any chance of getting the new GITS
What if Hakai-hen Remastered doesn't sell well? They're not gonna leave players hanging on a cliffhanger ending right? Japan played it years ago and everyone already played it on ppsspp too
>>23965728too much synergy with all the headline series anniversaries coming up (ttgl, geass, 00)if anything, the more likely doompost is they phone it in because it will so assuredly sell well regardless
>>23965728I don't see why it would sell badly, the roster for Z2 is basically made for casuals and normies, the whole cliffhanger is not going to scare anyone away. >Japan played it years ago and everyone already played it on ppsspp tooThe games have been delisted a long time ago from PSN so no easy access. Japan doesn't do emulation and the game was never translated to westerners, in fact any new fan introduced by the international games don't know shit about it but will buy it to play with Gurren Lagann or something like that.
>>23965728>Japan played it years ago and everyone already played it on ppsspp tooI didn'tAnd even if I had, I'd probably still buy it anyway for the same reason I didn't buy Y. I'm only going to pay for games that have rosters I like in order to influence the direction of the franchise to be more aligned with my taste I'll play it as well, hoping that my play data is also used for this purpose. I just hope they take the right lessons from the way I will, for example, continue deploying the original Getter-1 even after getting Shin Getter if this is possible
>>23965734>I just hope they take the right lessons from the way I will, for example, continue deploying the original Getter-1 even after getting Shin Getter if this is possibleExcellent taste, anon.
what are the chances of Wing Zero getting new attack that isn't just the combination?
>>23965758Unless they decide to make the Vulcans into its own finisher-tier weapon there's nothing to add is there
>>23965520That's bullshit. Going from Shin Getter 1 to Shin Getter Dragon is a clear step down on the menace scale.
>>23964665Li-Brasta reanimated by Arios guy
>>23965726It will be SAC but it's Batou only and he will be an honorary 0083 character just so you could have a playable GP02
You think the expansion pack will be an OG Heavy content since the only new character is Crowe?
Who will Crowe be friends for no reason with?
>>23965773Echika.
>>23965774Well Echika is rated E for Everyone's Friend
>>23965773Would be funny if he ends up befriending Domon
Crowe and Shotaro/Phillips the latter befriended an actual Hobo before
>>23965718Holy FUUUUCK duel must be fuming.
>>23965628>>23965634I'm almost certain the final 2 unreleased units are OG related. If they were based on a series they would probably have been shown in the trailer.
Happy Z2 Day everyone! Since we are now going to have an official Z2-duology translation, this is as good a time as any to release the translation patch (v0.8) of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Rebirth (a.k.a Saisei-Hen). Patch: https://files.catbox.moe/y2nwbe.xdelta (apply to Japanese ISO)This patch is at about the same level as the currently released Hakai patch (fully translated story, battle, scrolling text, etc). I was mostly hunting down stray untranslated UI and oddly translated lines. As before, please let me know if you encounter any issues. And support the official release when it comes out (even if everything is re-animated by the FMP guy).(Also, I'm totally claiming credit for calling Hakai "Ruin".)See you all on the other side of Z2.
>>23964643>super robot wars z...oh fuck oh fuck>two!... the one with lame ass fucking dogshit ass fucking garbage ass fucking crowe? and the brasta? the one that started the whole trend of "the og units can't be cool?" ew. no thank you.
>>23965773Kallen and Allenby.
>>23965773Most likely Duo as a callback to their friendship in Z2. From the Y OGs he will most likely get along well with Novey. They will probably reference the fact he doesn't like to to be around women as much, just to later accidentally make then thirst for him.
She'll actually get more full portraits?
>>23965786Maybe she will finally get legs...
>>23965782Nice, gonna give it a go.
Is he surprisingly a good father? If you place fucked up children in his vicinity, they turn out for the better.
>>23965657Z2 is the most popular. If this happens to be a massive success that blows their expectations away they may then go back and do Z, but a game with Aquarion, King Gainer, and Gundam X as some of their centerpieces doesn't really scream worldwide appeal in 2026. Only SEED and on a much smaller note Eureka and Big O.
>>23965782Kill yourself
>>23965782Hey, that's awesome to see. Cool that you're taking the new release in stride
The remaster may also be a way to gauge if the global audience is fine with the traditional linear mission structure and route splits since they only know 30 and Y
>>23965797all I wanted to do was make big drills and watch lelouch fuck upsoon we can do it in HD
It’s obvious one of the playable units is Re Sistis, the question is if Izana becomes playable
>>23965847I don't think they'd hide one slot just for it to be a lame recolored boss you fought 10 times already
i heard something about the dlc characters talking in the normal base game missions once the dlc drops is that true
>>23965892I've heard conflicting info between them speaking in the main campaign and them speaking in the DLC campaign.
>>23964645Shuroga and Shuroga Sin (transformation)
>>23965895You can get the expansion story without DLC1-3. so it'll be them mentioning that DLC1-3 characters will have lines and stuff for the expansion.
>>23964743>jack off to Aoi. It fits pretty well wherever you want to stick it.kek
>>23964842Shit! I just realized. THIS is why it's Z2 and not Z1. Armageddon Ryoma vs Toei Ryoma.
>>23965923What's that got to do with anything outside of not needing to animate Shin Getter?
any chance the GN Arms will become full units this time around?
>>23964665Touch up the music, Z2 has some shit midi choices that ruin several tracks.
>>23965284>unless Harmony Gold fucking dies for real in the very near futureMoney makes things move. As soon as they get a whiff of the bucks SRW rakes in in the west, they'll be more willing to play ball.Keep in mind: part of the agreement they have with Big West/Nue is that they will act as the official redistributor for OG Macross in the west, in exchange for which they WON'T fuck with any attempts by the rightsholders to bring the franchise to the west. That includes the ENTIRE franchise, including the OG Macross. Meaning if BW/N says 'jump' then they'd better fucking comply, at most asking 'how much does it pay?'
>>23965313>Bamco do trust the SRW franchise to make some bank now.SRW is literally, of Bamco's own accord, in their top-5 earners.They consider it one of their major pillar franchises.It outranks One Piece licensed games and Tales-of games, iirc.
>>23965353Hey man- boot-tip flip-out daggers are cool-as-fuck.
>>23965114It flopped on adult swim and came out at at midst of the bubble bursting so its DVD sales in the US weren't good. TTGL also didn't do well for the same reason.
>>23965456Also one of only three FDS where Ryoma isn't part of the lineup
>>23965485On the flip-side, they can turn it into a crowning moment of awesome, by having clone-Ryoma have a simple throwaway line right after:> That's right kid, just like your old man...
>>23965581I'm waiting for Lelouch to become a literal sorcerer in SRW or Lost Stories at this point
>>23965503Work of art
>>23965728>What if Hakai-hen Remastered doesn't sell well?/m/ never really considered that just like how they were so sure Y was gli g to be this big hit because of it had G-Witch and Wing to pander to westerners and it wound up selling less than 30
>>23965786Half body portrait, Take it or leave it
>>23965551that'd be awesome honestly.
>>23965949Well Y doesn't have that same "wow first worldwide srw" like 30 did, but with Y being worldwide on consoles as well as Steam, unlike Y, it'll catch up and surpass it no problem.
>>23965847Izana will most likely be the new supporter
>>23965347>if not for the dumb cube
>>23965949Have you learned the difference between sales and player numbers now?
>>23965734>I'm only going to pay for games that have rosters I like in order to influence the direction of the franchise to be more aligned with my tasteSo you're going to pay for a game with a bloated roster of shit anime from 15 years ago
>>23965794>Z2 is the most popular>Super Robot Wars Z - 503,573 (probably at over 800k by 2009)>Super Robot Wars Z2 Hakai-Hen - 398,017 (last recorded 423k)No Patrick Z2 is not more popular than Z1. No they did not look into worldwide appeal when choosing Z2 because the bulk of these titles are not actually popular overseas aside from Wing and GSD (which only makes them choosing Z2 over Z1 more retarded because SEED's popularity in SEA and China alone is bigger than Wing's overall popularity in the West) this obsession over "worldwide" appeal is why theres so many misconceptions being thrown all we know about BB Studios decision is that>It mainly had to do with Licensing >It was the series with the least amount of trouble to implement the Y engine to>It was due to a survey asking would you like older games to modern consoles not which older game would you like
>>23965958Have you stop fucking coping now?
>>23965959I haven't played like half these games because I don't like Code Geass. I dropped Code Geass.
>>23965949>Duel still latching to Steam Player count to shit on 30
>>23965958>Super Robot Wars 30 131,235>Super Robot Wars Y 91,501So whats the cope going to be this time?
>>23965967So you're going to buy THE Code Geass game instead of the ones that barely have any content in it?
>>23965970Woah now I'm not buying shit.
>>23965958ah yes, sometimes Steam would just give players copies of 30, a good chunk of it isn't actual sales, how could I forget?
>>23965958They also don't realize that SRW Y is available on every platform in the west while 30 was only on PC for many regions, using only steam numbers is useless
You know, there is a certain company that has a long history of working on remasters of games for years that also has worked with Bandai's properties very recently.
>>23965974Steam is the largest platform players will go to play SRW on this was pretty much stated that SRW experience its highest growth in sales when it came to Steam. Im not sure how counting the few players on Xbox will change anything
>>23965975Oh shit, yeah
srw 30 sold double Y's first week in japan btw
>>23965979it wasn't double, its like 20% more and that was mainly due to 30 being PS4/Switch while Y was PS5/Switch.You have been told this in the past, Duel.
>>23965976>I'm not sure how counting the amount of players across three different platforms could change how much a game has sold.>this was pretty much stated that SRW experience its highest growth in sales when it came to SteamBecause for the first time majority of the planet could buy SRW outside of the OG games
>>23965976It's not Xbox, it's western PS5 and Switch sales, Switch alone should be pretty good.
>>23965981THE COPE IS REAL
>>23965981It still hold higher on the switch
>Sweat Code Geass cant wait to play as my favorites Lelouch and Suzaku like in Lost Stories>What do you mean my only options are Kallen, Ougi and Tamaki>What do you mean I only get to play as the Lancelot for two levels? HE'S ON THE FUCKING COVER>Well At least since 00S1 I at least get to play as Graham right? Right? Right?>Aww mam next thing you're going to tell me there's this really annoying mascot that won't shut the fuck up
>/co/ imagesDid one of you guys insult avatar and say that Batman TAS is the best cartoon ever?
>>23965995Well, we talked about Big-O
>>23965995Problem?
>>23965999You're demanding Transformers or something?
>>23965995/co/ likes korra than the original, they shouldn't be listened to when it comes to cartoons
>>23965995>Batman TAS is the best cartoon everIs that wrong?
>>23966003>/co/ likes korra than the originalThis is like saying /m/ loves Gundam Seed Destiny or G-Witch
>>23965995>Did one of you guys insult avatarto be fair anything after Last Airbender sucks
>>23966004It's not but /co/mblr Avatarfags would disagree. It's like when you say "Shin Angyo Onshi/Priest is the best Manhwa ever" and it triggers Koreans and Koreanfags alike because you're praising their past instead of their modern shit even if that easily mogs their modern shit
Or /co/ hates Transformers, Megas XLR and Symbionic Titan
>>23965689In fact, doesn't he call out the Black Knights for betraying Lelouch and for the following reasons:>Lelouch having Geass means nothing when other members of ZEXIS have powers too.>Lelouch is the leader of ZEXIS, so they would have to get everyone else in ZEXIS on board. Many of whom don't trust Schneizel.>It's clear they're confused and emotional after Tokyo got nuked and are just looking for a scapegoat which Schneizel is more than happy to provide.
Will the SEED Destiny Gundams just reuse their Y animations on Z2?
>>23966016God, I hope not, the Meteor animations were actually good in Z2.
>Calibarn>Li-Brasta>Byakuya Gekkoei SuiSo we still have two more slots for the DLC, will it be an OG upgrade or a villain will join?
>>23966017Unfortunately, they might not get the METEORs since Lacus doesn't appear until Saisei-Hen. Though, I do hope Shinn and Luna still get their combo attack even if it wasn't in Z2.
>>23966018Izana is probably the new support.Valbeim joining would be neat.
>>23966016Z2 is just going to be an upscaleI think there's more new robots to animate in Z2 than there are robots in Y total even counting the ones using reused assets
I want Star Trek in SRW so I can post here with my /trek/ tripcode.
>>23966027I wish Bandai didn't private the stream because they actually explained who was playable and not. The only one I remember was Dyna Solder was attack only
>>23965548>>23965553I'd say the Z games (including special disk) are actually self contained continuities where instead of being sequels some non-existing alternate version of the previous games' plot happenned.The if routes are also always the true ending.
>>23966032Blame jam projectvictory-gong-skill was kino though
>>23966038They did the same shit last stream too and that didn't have a jam project. I think an Anon saidd he recorded it, I just want the Y section
I hope we get the better black getter in z2.2 instead of the shit we later get
>>23966015wufei didn't say all that iirc, it was either roger, sumeragi or jeffrey. hard to confirm when nobody uploads zero requiem route on youtube.
>>23965782Anything planned next?
My father worked at BB Studio, he said that we will get more Crowe in the future, in fact, everything SRW from now on will be Crowe related things
>>23965485The only game in which Armageddon Ryoma ever took part in FDS was D
I could not care less about Crowe
>>23966064I'd care if Librasta T wasn't fucking ugly
>>23966064I want to know the man behind the meme. How did he end up in so much debt? How did he keep getting loans despite his abysmal credit score? How has his shit not been repo'd?
>>23966073A really skillfull and chill guy who made several bad decision in life like becoming Sniper when he is already one of the Best hand to hand fighter in his team
>>23966073he inherited the debt when his old man died
>>23964643How's the recent Fan Translation for Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations Gaiden? I heard it was done with AI but im curious how good it is considering the recent AI translations have been pretty bad
>>23966081no ai would come up with such a retarded name as ketu rahu blade
>>23966081The retard didn't even check if the dialogue fit the text boxes before uploading, don't bother
>>23966079Is that how debt works in Japan? I didn't know they were as bad with usury as jews
>>23966087no, he voluntarily took it on
>>23966064I care about Crowe since 2011
>>23966090I wonder if he was once a rich Kid who got fed up in life and joined the military
>>23966078Once you go green, it will never be the same again
>>23966064I didn't even know who Crowe was till yesterday.
>>23966073He took on his father's debt, got it paid off, went back into debt by not wording his terms for the Brasta upgrade correctly, paid that off, then went back into debt in order to keep Ester from knowing that he was semi-flirting with Marg
>>23966096this would make dave ramsey have an aneurysm
>>23966086damn so basically still not translated? Has anyone announced if they'll pick it up?
>>23966090Did his dad have like a really sweet vintage car or something?
>>23966096You wish Marg
I’m still sad that Z3.2 is still the only game with Diebuster.
>>23965513Jet Jaguar is only around 3-5m. Kaiser/Emperor reach around 28m to Arc's 55. So, the difference isn't nearly as big. But also, there are two issues.The sprite in current SRW are generally proportional to their size, even if not actually to real size, but Kaiser and Emperor are bigger than they should be for their height. In addition to that, Final Dynamic Special was originally based on an attack from the Grendizer x Great Mazinger x Getter G (Kouji was here in the Double Spazer) movie that ignored all size differences.
>>23965783
>>23966110That's right, we're a hivemind here and will not tolerate opinions that go against the grain
>>23966109isn't Toei Getter a lot smaller than the newer Getters though? Like, I know it's still bigger than Mazingers but only by like 10m and not literally double size
>>23966112No, I'm pretty sure Toei Getter is in the 38 meter range while regular old Z and Great are around 18 to 20
>>23966058My Uncle works at BB studio, he said that the "next game" will be a Dispatch parody starring Crowe with Esther as Invisigal and Margueritte as Blonde Blazer
>>23966111Trips confirm.
My grandaunt twice removed said that the next non-remake SRW will come out early Q4 of 2028
To the anon that asked a few threads back, while I didn't find the picture of it, turns out the SRW wiki has a note on Shin SRW's page about the sequel that never was, including the cast list that would have been Shin SRW 2. Stars indicate what would have been debuts at the time.Mobile Suit GundamMobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the PocketMobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS TeamMobile Suit Zeta GundamMobile Suit Gundam ZZMobile Suit Gundam: Char's CounterattackMobile Suit Gundam F91 Mobile Suit Crossbone GundamInvincible Steel Man Daitarn 3Invincible Robot Trider G7 The strongest robot, Daiohja Combat Mecha XabungleAura Battler DunbineHeavy Metal L-Gaim Metal Armor DragonarMobile Suit V GundamMobile Fighter G GundamMobile Suit Gundam Wing Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Endless WaltzMobile Suit Gundam XBlue Comet SPT LayznerSpace Runaway Ideon The Vision of Escaflowne Absolutely Invincible Raizin-Oh
>>23966141Oh, the stars didn't paste. Well, the debuts would have been 08th MS, Crossbone, Daiohja, Xabungle, Dragonar, Endless Walts, Escaflowne and RaijinOh.
>>23966121Yes, it is possible, especially if Z2.1 is a "ghost" game remastered by Tose and not by the main team. Keep in mind that Tose is quite an expert in upscaling, as SRW OG 2nd and MD themselves are cleverly done that way.
>>23966068I misse R so much
>>23966153If that's the case, how long do you think it'll take Z2 to drop? MD came out roughly 5 months after it was announced although they had actual gameplay and a release date at the announcementIt's strange that all we know about Z2 is the title card. Maybe Bamco just really needed to push something out to calm down the shareholders or something
>>23966159At best we might see screens or footage before the end of the year but I'm thinking ZII isn't coming until at least the mid-point of next year.
>Outside of having a subpilot, RKO just feels worse to use than RyujinkiI really wish that OG would bring back Rastaban Beam.
>>23966159We're talking about hypotheses without any basis, but I don't think it's a game entrusted to the main team, it seems like a stopgap to have something in 2027. Probably April-May Imho
>>23966168Hey, if we go back to having yearly releases by way of having another team touch up and translate the older games for a steam release, I'm all for it. Getting to play some of the old handhelds would be lovely, I always wanted to actually be able to read the story for R, D, BX, hell, even K
>>23966176My brother.
>>23966176>I always wanted to actually be able to read the story for R, D, BX, hell, even KYou can actually do that right now for all four of them thanks to a certain lper but it would definitely be way better to do that in game.
>>23966159I'm expecting a proper reveal at most by the end of Q1 2027, or at a SRW stream or at a direct. The game will be out before the end of Q2 2027. Unless the game is actually being worked by TOSE like the anon above suggested and it's one of their project, in that case I could see a Q1 release with a proper trailer before the end of the year since they said they have various projects with JP publishers coming out soon, so Z2-1 could easily be one of themRegardless I don't think this game will have the typical SRW prerelease marketing. The game is a remaster in the end, there are no surprises you can hide and even if it has something new it would be shown in the first real trailer (same for any change, like 3D maps, or half-body portraits, or HD-fied sprites/animations, and that's if those thing will actually be different from the PSP version). I'm not expecting a "2nd trailer" and so the release date wouldn't be too far away from the first showing
>>23966176>even KIf only to check if Mist lives up to his reputation.
>>23966180Gotta give props to the guy for blitzing through so many of them, all those plus Impact and Compact 3 being worked on right now. Even if most were touched-up AI translations.
>>23966141So, it was basically Super Sunrise Wars.
>>23966164RKO is for flight and MB only, for other situations you want KRO
>>23966188KRO has worse range and an inferior ALL. Its just really annoying at how RKO feels compared to its Alpha self because they keep saddling it with a ton of will reqs.
I know remember CC once had a pink Lancelot
>>23966197It's so strange that everyone gets a color-coded mech but C.C doesn't get green, but pink instead.I suppose they were doing a Strike Rouge kind of thing.
>>23965975shiiiii-t. that's true...
>>23966181If it's a global release though then I do expect more than one PV since this will be the first time overseas people who haven't been importing SRWs for years will be introduced to the game.
>>23966153>>23966181Keep in mind that this game is being made with the new Y engine as well, which means isn't going to be some cheap import with upscaled assets. They said some time ago they had to pretty much redo all the units entirely in Y.
>>23966030Aw. Nu-HWS makes for a cute bride.
>>23966058So what you're saying is that everyone is going to have to eat Crowe ?
>>23966204It'll probably be the main PV and a pre-launch trailer
>>23966200Her Akatsuki was the same color so I think that's just what her color was suppposed to be.
>>23966206Main reason why everybody's going back and forth on whether this is going to be ZII with all the same choreography and stuff or if they'll change things up to be more in line with how HD SRW has operated in recent times.
>>23966217People just need to look at how older units brought back to Y aren't entirely 1:1 the same, some are missing cutins they used to have or things are slightly different, I'd imagine the differences may be bigger with how old z2 actually is
>>23966217I personally don't expect new stuff, but I want to hope.Plus, they make money off of DLC now.
>>23964643>Find out Z2.1 is getting remastered>"Oh cool they're porting Z2.1">It's a remaster as in a full asset redo>"oh...."I don't think people who are excited about this really understand what that means. It definitely means things are getting cut because there's no way BB studio is going to do the spritework for all of those side units.
>>23966217If I have to guess, they will most likely keep the same choreography for most units but with Hd sprites of course. But a couple of then will most likely get a makeover. like I really don't see Z1 Turn A staying when Arios guy did that Z3 version.
>>23966221What's funny is that Z2 already cut a bunch of stuff.
>>23966221>It definitely means things are getting cut because there's no way BB studio is going to do the spritework for all of those side units.You are saying it as if Z2 had that many units, it really is more or less around the average modern SRW roster.
>>23966217I don't think they'll do a full overhaul but instead just redraw the sprites in higher resolution like they did for Z3.I just hope they actually redraw all the animations and keep them the same instead of backporting some Z3 moves because a lot of those, especially for Macross units were way worse.
>>23966225Just as long as I get Great RX3 I'll be fine but yeah...There's just no way the whole entire mecha roster is going to be there unless this game comes out 3 years from now.
>>23966221I'm not expecting thatThere's some stuff they already have assets for (though admittedly not much)I think they're going to redo a few key units but just upscale everything else that they consider unimportant. Like there's no way they could have announced this if they didn't find some way to migrate all those old assets into the new engine
>>23966228I don't think you remember just how many side units Z2.1 had anon...
>>23966230I'll be very sad if they use Beck Victory Deluxe instead of Beck The Great RX-3
oh right we get the return of the trinity of Destiny, Frontier and Nova.
>>23966159SRW usually is pretty speedy from announcement to release. I think 30 was the only game that took almost a year and that was because they revealed it earlier than usual. On the other hand we've seen no footage from it yet, which suggests it's not very far along.
>>23966229Yeah, see, that's what a number of people are concerned about, I think. Redrawing the sprites to be the same pose but in HD is one thing, but a lot are worried about whether everything is going to wind up with nu-SRW animations which are divisive, shall we say, instead of the old choreography.Or, using your screenshot as an example, just backporting (in a sense) the Z3 versions of units that were in Z2 to save time/effort/budget/whatever.
>>23966236Well they said 2027 fiscal year so mid-2027 at the earliest
>>2396623630 was announced in June 2021 and came out in October 2021. You're thinking of 2nd OG which got heavily delayed
>>23966217Again if they're redoing it all in Y's engine everything that can't be taken from Z3 is gonna have to be redone, all the maps are gonna have to be 3D. It's a much bigger project than just upscaling the old PSP game.
>>23966221That's what people said about A Portable but they did every unit faithfully.
Still surprised the DLC is coming out so soon. Makes sense since it ended up being new attacks and new units without being for new series, but still. Hard to believe it's only what, two days away? 3?
I'm going assume some work as been done and I would not be surprised if saisei-hen was being worked on simultaneously. I figure they are not comfortable with showing footage right now but they wanted to announce it so they had something else beside new Y and DD content to show.
>>23966247The gods at Tose did that not Banpresto.Is Z2.1 being done by Tose?
>>23966229They are just upscale it all with AI.
>>23966229That's not just a redraw in HD, you can see the HD sprites are far more detailed, there's more detail and little ports and vents, the SMS logo is added to the shoulder etc.
>>23966249DLC 3 was announced only a few days before it came out
>>23964657Hopefully he continues. I have zero faith in their remake, they'll find a way to fuck it up and downgrade animations. Just look at the travesty from 30 when it comes to OGs.
>>23966247A portable was most just a bunch of stuff stolen from Alpha 2 and MX, it had very few original animations or redrawn stuff
>>23966234I'll cancel my pre-order if there's no RX-3 dude.
>>23966243I knew it was one of them. But I'm pretty sure they said 2nd OG was ready to go but BN delayed it to push Tales of Xillia first.
>>23966264Were the OG units taken from OGs or made new for the game?
>>23966263It doesn't matter either way. If the new game looks like shit, they can just take the script and backport it into the original. The framework is for plugging the text into the game is already set up right? Seems like an easy, if tedious copy and paste job.
>>23966264There was still a bunch of stuff that had to be added like the 0079 stuff, classic Mazinger and Getter stuff that wasn't in MX and most of the tv Nadesico stuff since MX used PoD
>>23966267Straight from OGs.Like he said, very little was new and a lot of stuff that was new was very basic. (Units not copied usually had very basic shoot or slide-into-and-slam animations.)I think the most effort done for AP animation-wise was probably Ultimate Tenkyoken and Stoner Sunshine's new animations, and the Daitarn/Zambot combo moves.
Remember what TigerDragonKing looked like in 30? Fun times.
>>23966267All from OGs. The only thing added was Axel's new dialogue for both him with Amnesia and him in serious mode piloting stuff he couldn't in OGS like Vysaga
I wonder if any of the stuff from Z2 will be used in the next new game or even DD.Making new models for Z2 can be useful since it can easily be banked for other works, like the recent L-gaim and Dunbine returns were.
>>23966276D remake will be super easy to do
>>23966276King Gainer stuff and probably Xabungle stuff...Eureka 7 stuff...
Have they said when the next time we'll see anything about the Z2.1 remaster? TGS?
>>23966276I'm sure some of it's stuff they've wanted to have for a long timeYou can tell they're really struggling to try to make Geass as interesting or relevenat as it should be without having the main plot available. After this, they won't have to struggle anymore
>>23966276Remastering old games would be a good way to bank this stuff and presumably make it easier to work with or edit for future games, true. Though I'd hope it wouldn't mean everything would become copy-paste jobs in the future, if this new engine really is easier to work with for them and all.>>23966277Seeing the new HD style of regular SRWs applied to D OGs after 2nd and MD will be...interesting.
>>23966276>I wonder if any of the stuff from Z2 will be used in the next new game or even DD.Next game for sure, wouldn't surprise me if part of the reason of Z2 picked is because of synergy with series they want use again. That way is easier to rework some units in HD they can use again from the get go.
>>23966280>Geass as interesting or relevenat as it should beGeass fucking sucks.
>>23966280I don't know I think they know nobody cares about anything beyond the leads as far as Geass goes. They've had 2 games to make use of characters in the movie like Cornelia Jeremiah and Guilford and haven't bothered.
Everyone says D but I hope for a R remake, it has a lot of stuff that they currently use but also has Dendoh, which can be used for whenever they do that sequel that it got recently and also Neo Getter if they ever want to get us out of the Heats purgatory.
>>23966283Wing and CG TV could help quite a bit when they add the crossover manga in a mainline SRW
>>23966285That's not really the point, the point is that there's barely any situations where said leads can shine or even really do anything without the Geass plot. Lelouch has just been kinda there for the past few games, not doing all the shit people like him for
Sucks W will never be remade because of Tekkaman. Imagine having a shitload of HD GGG assets especially if they go all out and give us decombined Ryus, regular Volfogg, playable Mic and zonder robos other than EI-15
I have seen a disturbing amount of social media posts calling Z2 a ps3 game. It's pretty weird.
>>23966280>>23966285Not to mention that if Roze is planned to be in the "next" game then it does make sense to reuse TV Geass again after so long, even if to redo some units from the originals series first.
>>23966285>Cornelia Jeremiahthose are the characters people want though?
>>23966272Master Gundam had 90% new animations>>23966274Lamia had new lines too, but it could be unused stuff
>>23966280Next game is gonna have Roze for Geass though, so that doesn't seem likely >>23966285Yeah, which sucks. Latest chapters of Lost Stories even includes Jeremiah and Anya piloting as they're working with L.L. and C.C. and co. Plus Cornelia already pilots in the series a bit. Those are assets they could have reused if they bothered.
>>23966286Still sad we never got an R Portable way back when, it would have been so easy to just keep doing what AP did, R had very little they would need to animate new.
I completely memoryholed that Orange and Anya weren't in Z3 and only came back for X of all things.
>>23966293Wasn't Master Gundam entirely brand new? It wasn't in MX
>>23966289Keep the hope alive, anon. One day Tatsunoko will stop being bitches about it.
>>23966301Yeah and Blade so central to the plot you can't just take it out. Orgun completely depends on it.
>>23965634>shinkiroThey said on stream that it's just a weapon for gekkoei
>>23966291>>23966296If Akito didn't make it in to mainline, why would Roze? I don't really get the impression anyone gave a shit about Roze.
>>23966299Chokyu haoh deneidan was from impact
>>23966291Next game is likely 100% including Lost Stories elements even if the game doesn't make it in. They're already taking Lelouch's new KMF from the game and giving it more. They're probably gonna blend the og cast in that way.
>>23966305Because Roze is the sequel. Its the Zeta Gundam while Akito is basically 08th MS Team or Stargazer.
>>23966313Are you really gonna act like people care about Roze in the same way they care about Zeta Gundam?
>>23966307It was not. The sprite's proportions are different and even Master Asia's head was redone (his ponytail is significantly shorter and his face is much smoother in A Portable)
>>23966305>>23966313Also Akito probably got stuck in DD for the same reason as IBO
>>23966305>If Akito didn't make it in to mainline, why would Roze?One is a sequel they can keep using the main cast in and the other is a side story inbetween S1 and S2
>>23966320Black Knights only cameo in Roze though, right? So you'd still need the original to have their units
>>23966317It doesn't matter what you think on the matter. They're even currently airing Roze weekly on TV right now and the main focus of the Geass gacha main story.Roze is the next point in the timeline and not a side story. Even if they end up using the OG cast in it alongside them, Roze is gonna get in.
>>23966324Yes, but that just means having unit only Resurrection with lost stories shit now if they're gonna give them that, you literally couldn't do this with Akito plot but you can very well just have them with Roze
>>23966324The Byakuya Gekkoei Sui is L.L.'s Roze KMF from the Lost Stories game.That should already tell you what to expect next game with Roze.
>>23966327I hope they use Nunnally as Suzaku's subpilot
>all discussions on Roze and Akito.Sighs....one day....Nightmare of Nunnally.One day....
>>23966325I didn't watch Roze, hell I have no idea what it's even about and would have no clue it exists without this board. It's clearly not the phenomenon the original show was and only appeals to the niche of weirdos who think the setting has value outside of the original storyI'm thinking like a Bamco exec here. Would putting Roze in the game really sell more copies? I don't see why it would. It might even tick off people who came for Lelouch and got all this other shit they don't care about. That's why I don't see it getting into mainline as a guarantee
>>23966337NTA but>only appeals to the niche of weirdos who think the setting has value outside of the original storyYou mean the people in charge of the IP? Bandai is the one creating these in the first place including yet another new show>Would putting Roze in the game really sell more copies? I don't see why it would. It might even tick off people who came for Lelouch and got all this other shit they don't care about.Is a meaningless point since Resurrection will be on the series list regardless and they'll play into the whole L.L thing which is what people want to see more of anyways
Wait a minute, in a few years time could they just pick up the license for the Wing/Geass manga and get basically two series for the price of one?
>>23966337You're not thinking enough like a Bamco exec. We know there's a new CG show being made, Roze is being pushed harder now than it ever was thanks to the reruns, the gacha and actually getting some robot toys now, and the Geass team seem happy to let the SRW team use whatever they want, plus it's inclusion lets you slot in Lelouch and the gang without much issue once the blender robots get introduced. It's makes a change from just using the Geass film for the 3rd time, and lets you push two or even more shows at once if they want to add Akito stuff. It's easy money for everyone.
>>23966337No you're not. You're only thinking based on your preference for Lelouch.They've basically milked the main Geass movie for all its worth. Roze + Res kills two birds with one stone, we keep Lelouch and they get to shill the new cast that they've already been shilling.
>>23966337They have another new Code Geass project coming, so yeah, Roze is coming. They're even putting out weekly picture dramas for the Roze TV broadcast on the official YouTube channel. And some characters from Roze have fanbases too like Ash and Catherine. And they're just going to include Lelouch and the rest of the necessary originals alongside Roze. They'll just make it so the OG cast comes with Roze going forward like CCA+Zeta. They've already been expanding on the Roze plot in the Geass mobile to include more of the OG cast.
>>23966110crowe fucking sucks and the brasta fucking sucks and its animations are even worse. i absolutely hate that one attack of his where he snipes the enemy four fucking times and only lands one shit. what a loser. god i hate z2, i can't believe they're remaking the shittiest part of z. z1 or z3 would've been awesome and instead we get this crap.
>>23966343>You mean the people in charge of the IP?I don't. They're in an understandably difficult position of needing to follow up and milk something new out of the franchise where most people only cared about the elements of the first show. That kind of necessitates moving on from Lelouch since his story is over, but obviously they haven't found an equivalent that can really make the same kind of waves.>Is a meaningless point since Resurrection will be on the series list regardlessI don't know that it will be if we're going to have the original show on the table thanks to Z2 again. Resurrection has been around for awhile, and they've gotten what they can out of it at this point, having to turn to Lost Stories to keep people interested. Hell even in 30 itself they had to fanfiction Gekkoei Sui into existence just to have something to work with
>>23966354They are not going to do TV Code Geass plot in the next mainline lol.>having to turn to Lost Stories to keep people interestedYes the thing that just so happens to be the knightmare frame we JUST discovered that Lelouch uses during Roze in lost stories, quite a concidence.
The return of the most autistic Gundam bromance?
>>23966354Thing is, modern SRW defaults to "most recent version" a lot so we are unlikely to see the TV series often.
>>23966346Probably not given past evidence regarding stuff like that.Macross 30 in BX was restricted to only its OG characters for example.
>>23966358As someone who only likes TV 00 and hates the movie, I'm so happy to see it in a game I can play.
>>23966346They'd be able to get Wing and Geass' licenses without much, if any issue anyway.
>>23966365Also its a monthly series, so I wouldn't expect it soon. But it means WZR can potentially be on the table outside of DD going forward.
I am a little surprised they didn't add Combattler V6 since that's a Bamco toy
>>23966369Yeah, Gundam and Geass are owned by Namco Bandai already, and their respective teams are always willing to work with SRW without issue.
>>23966360they way they go about it is schizophrenic and weird, like we haven't seen Zeta ANT since the Z series and they never debuted Gundam Origin for example. Y gave us the Mazinkaiser Movie instead of Infinity too, which is also weird, and also for example, 70s Raideen over either of the newer Raideens which also still haven't debuted
>>23966354You're being incredibly unrealistic anon.
>>23966375They are allowed to use older titles y'know. We had two games with Infinity, so it makes sense to do something different with Mazinger, especially when they've got Kaiser and Emperor G assets they can re-use. And Raideen is Raideen, they wanted another 70's Super about and picked that, plus threw it in DD for good measure.
>>23966377I hope Infinity comes back so they can use Zero Infinitism for its plot. I think that there is a lot more that they can do with Infinity Koji as a character if they could get more creative.
>>23966377It makes sense to go back to the OYW too since we've ten gorillion games with CCA Amuro but they ain't doing that
Yokoyama estate and HG are trash, why not be chill with SRW like Nagai, Tomino and Kawamori?
>>23966380I reckon Bandai execs are to blame for that one, they can sell more higher end expensive kits if they push CCA, and it's less weird to have Zeta around with CCA than with 0079. We did get the RX-78-2 in 30, I bet that was the SRW team's idea and probably took some effort to convince. I'd like 0079 to come back proper too, especially with a few side stories too.
>>23966384It would be nice if they released a SRW in multiple parts again, just so we could go through timeskips. UC Gundam, Mazinger, Getter, Geass and whatever else and then the next game uses some sequels.
>>23966384Do any CCA kits really sell outside of the Nu and Sazabi? Like I know the Nu is the #1 most popular Gundam by a landslide, but outside of that, CCA suits aren't usually a big dealA lot of the older games reflected that by having a younger Amuro in some of his earlier suits randomly upgrade to the Nu without context. Not sure why they don't just do that again. No one's saying get rid of CCA, just having the earlier stuff also. Like Zeta's always around too but Amuro's not even allowed to have the Dijeh, it's nonsensical
>>23966384>I reckon Bandai execs are to blame for that one, they can sell more higher end expensive kits if they push CCAExcept outside of SRW you see tons of OYW stuff. Just look at G Gen Eternal in comparison. You can drown in OYW content there. And that's really more standard for Gundam content overall. Look at how many OYW side-stories there are. Even recently you had GQX with OYW prequel episodes and most designs being OYW redesigns or Gundam Requiem for Vengeance.It's clearly the SRW staff themselves that favor CCA (and it's still a big part of UC too, so Bandai has no reason to complain).
>>23966387They should start giving Amuro one of the million custom suits that he gets pre-CCA, let him start with some bullshit like Zeta plus and move to Zeta 3A, Silver Bullet or something. Or at least let the Nu get Double Fin Funnel or HWS.
>>23966368this but for TV Wing
>>23966375OG Mazinkaiser in Y without even recoloring the limbs to match the movie was 100% due to this figure.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b8Z6kwxd0MRaideen for example also had figures recentlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBigLGFwemsA lot of the line up in recent SRWs for old shows can be tied to merch releases.
>>23966391In all my years playing SRW games with countless Endless Waltz appearances, the only thing that really stood out to me is how Last Impression is a fucking incredible song in SRW instrumentationHope TV Wing has something just as good
>>23966396The problem with EW is that, while its good in its own context, its terrible in SRW because it has no real foes. There aren't any antagonists to act as rivals for the cast so the inclusion always has to lean into other series because it doesn't give any real fights beyond Heero vs Wufei.
>>23966407Isn't like half of the original show itself just the main five + Zechs trying to kill each other/themselves? That's what I get out of Gundam Wing discussion whenever it comes up
>>23966386Never happening again thanks to Z3.
>>23966414Zechs and Treize are still there to act as foils though.
>>23966418>Z2 remaster sells well>They make just a straight up retcon completely new Z3 as a sequel
>>23966421I'd like something more interesting than that as the next remaster
>>23966396Original Z2 had:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVx14e2QuwEandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ8LtuZyRewNow the Remaster will undoubtedly have Just Communication, it's TV Wing's main theme, the first half anyway. Will they keep Wings of the boy who killed Adolescence though is anyone's guess.
>>23966421>they retcon the Aquarion retcon so it remains in Z3>but Evol gets replaced with Logos or MOEMonkey paw tier wish.
>>23966426I know I could listen now, but I'm saving it for when I actually play the game. I like to go in as fresh as I can with series I have no experience with, it enhances the discovery process
>>23966426>Wings of the boy who killed Adolescence is gone>but we get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQjdpPNZdUg instead
Personally I like that TV 00 is there because of:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEp-xaa9gAk
>>23966430Oh man, I remember playing MX for the first time and I didn't know a single thing about Machine Robo at the time. When Rom first appeared I was like HOLY SHIT WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GIGACHADProbably my greatest memory playing a SRW game
>>23966421They'd probably replace R2 with Re;surrection if they did that.>>23966428OR, better yethttps://youtu.be/RAQ6PRPb6c4?is=LBkUOP-jp-588JD8
Im going to try to watch as many anime from ZII as I can but there's a lot. Which series were the most important to ZII's plot?
>>23966448There's not really that much, and you have plenty of time
>>23966448Ignore all the ones that were in Z1 since they all wrapped up in Z1That should significantly cut down on what you need to watch
>>23964643vocal DAYBREAKS BELL and KURENAI NO KIBA YOO
>>23966452Thanks
I hope Brain Powerd comes back one day...
>>23966448Gundam 00 S1Code Geass S1TTGL until the second big thingLike half of Shin MazingerA few episodes of Getter Robo: ArmageddonA cursory glance at Gundam Wing
>>23966458is most of VOTOMS saved for Saisei then?
>>23966456In terms of hopeful returns, for me it would be Demonbane, Fafner, Tekkaman Blade, and Dai-Guard
Not counting second halves like R2 and 00 S2, the only new series in Z2.2 were Tetsujin and Macross 7 + Dynamite right? Or am I missing something?
>>23966460Hakai covers the first arc of TV, the first 2 OVAs and some of Pailsen Files
>>23966460For Votoms in Hakai, you just want like the first 10 episodes, the Last Red Shoulder movie and Pailsen Files.
>>23966463No, you're right.
>>23966373Also I'm sure Greenriver and Fukuyama would be begging the relevant people to put it in the game
>>23964665jibaku
>>23964665Backport songs from later games A Portable used tracks from MX. Happily Ever After and Pierce the Heavens should be used with Gurren Lagann. Then in Saisei Getter gets Yuusou and Geass can have World End in addition to O2.
>>23966506Yeah that'll be a 20 USD DLC plus tax, please and thank you
Oh right, this is also in Saisei.https://youtu.be/PlFKKpswHxE?si=Dun0RB7VuDBNlOsd
>>23966438I do long for the day we get SRI in SRW. Question is, do we go with the actual OP or Maximum Kizuna Kaiser's song as the main BGM?
>>23966421>Gargantia returns but now it actually has real Walker Machines from Xabungle.I wouldn't be against that.
>>23966458>A few episodes of Getter Robo: ArmageddonPretty much the first three, but they also take some stuff from Moon Wars prequel manga.
>>23966461>Tekkaman Blade,I played J last year because of Brain Powerd and loved Tekkaman Blade. And Im going to play W soon which has even more of him which has me excited. Id love to see it come back too. It would have been cool to have more human sized henshin guys with Kamen Rider and Gridman.
>>23966421Everytime anything gets remastered I wish they would have the balls to do this.
AMERICA
I love how everyone keeps forgetting Pocket Full of Rainbows is in Z2 as well.
>>23966533I bench that shit all the time and let the Terminus secret unlock itself with sub-orders.Gimme TV Eureka or nothing.
>>23966533The Nirvash is just so unexcting in Z2.
Now I remembered King Gainer is pretty much post-plot in Z2 but someone at the staff really liked him enough because they keep giving him new attacks between both parts...
>>23966183Impact is a real translation done by someone else so you can read that one.I dont like him trying to justify literal cheating by calling it hardwork and guts but whatever. The important part is getting the story.
>>23966426They've had no problem reusing music as far back as Z2 and GC all this time I don't see why they'd stop now
>>23966533Its not that I'm forgetting, I'm just choosing to not think about it...
>>23966533um, Mokyuu?
RURUSHU!
>>23966551
>>23966549
>>23966533Why I want to remember a franchise that was never good? Hard to get excited for the Z1 series regardless knowing there was a bunch of cuts to themGundam X only having the DX, Airmaster and Leopard Destroy is stupid. I want to use Jamil, dammit
>>23966552Suzaku has fantastic taste in girls
Is there any future dlc for Y? Or is now the perfect time to start it? I enjoyed 30 as my first SRW but it was so long and especially getting the dlc released later made me want to wait for Y to get all the content before starting it. Also I wasn't that much a fan of how much was reused from 30 nor the large swath of Gundam in Y at launch
>>23966557The DLC releasing in three days is the final DLC as far as we know.
>>23966555You get to use Jamil in Z2.2.
>>23966557>spoiler text>30 as my first SRWUh, that explains it, get used to it, new meat, 'cause this series did, still does and will do those things a lot.
>>23966542Why are two japan
>>23966545>>23966533What was wrong with z2 using the eureka movie? Ive never seen anything but the tv series
>>23966557SRW Y is just another game in a long list of the devs being too afraid to implement Getter Emperor as something to fight/repel. I have no hopes for DLC after what was announced.
>>23966571>Ive never seen anything but the tv seriesPromise me you'll keep it that way. Never, ever watch anything Eureka Seven related after the original series.
>>23966557>I wasn't that much a fan of [...] the large swath of Gundam in Y at launchOh anon, you better prepare for pain if you want to continue playing these games.
>>23966573NTA but I just finished Eureka Seven myself and was curious about it's follow ups in AO and the movies. Are they THAT bad?
>>23966571Let's just say that it has nothing to do with the TV series at all aside from the characters sharing the same name and designs. Nothing else has anything to do with anything from the TV plot, nothing.
>>23966577YesWhat rock have you been under
>>23966454Still prefer Nageki no Rosario, but - I'll take it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll_Sjsw7UqEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYHJMK_w3Ls
>>23966454>>23966580The real winner though is the unavoidable vocal version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh0S1stXKrw
>>23966571>>23966577Look this way: anything beyond the original TV series (and the PS2/PSP tie-in games, those are fine) was made on the basis of PURE BUTTHURT SPITE towards the TV series happy ending by the original director Tomoki Kyoda and his desire to absolutely fuck that shit up into a bitter ending and get some cash along the way.
>>23966582And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUfIAnBNwI
>>23966577Every past the original show is a spiteful misery festival you're better off not knowing about.
>>23966582>>23966589These and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKTaaMUOck
>>23966596ROCK MEEEE
>>23966577From what I understand, the director had to make a ton of concessions to the other staff on the project, which resulted in what we got in the first series.Everything else, he didn't have the same staff onboard and thus didn't need to make the same kind of concessions, which makes a lot of the latter stuff feel mean spirited.Even the original show had a completely different ending planned; it was only due to the reception of the Eureka x Renton relationship that they pivoted into the much more optimistic ending that they got in the final broadcast; with the original ending being the New Order script reading/OVA/manga.
>>23966572Emperor is pretty much one of the few enemies that could be a non OG SRW final boss
>>23966577The creator hated the happy ended and everything after the original was created to destroy it
>>23966580Hoping Premium Sound will include Nageki no Rosario
>>23966605I'd like to see the Getter Noir boys convince it to assist us. I don't think they'd go against their creator
It's pretty much confirmed that a new game is in the works, but is it going to be Y2 or an entirely new thing?
>>23966609That's what the custom folder's for https://i.desu.si/CtoGNHuP.mp3
>>23966614A new thing, duh
>>23966614Zero reason for Y2 since we are getting Calibarn
>>23966577>Are they THAT bad?Nah. They're not THAT bad.They're EVEN WORSE.
>>23966614Probably a new thing. I think that's why they're experimenting with 'remastering' older title too. That way, they're still releasing a title but not necessarily a new new title. I think it's also a smart move from a different PoV. Get all those older assets up to be reusable on modern stuff, etc.
>>23966615Yeah- but those don't loop properly.(Man- can you imagine if anyone were ever to figure out how to make loop points work properly...)
Post series Eureka Seven occupies the same space as the Tsukihime anime and Kemono Friends S2 in other words they don't exist
>>23966621As long as the song is longer than an attack animation who cares about the looping
>>23966613>I don't think they'd go against their creatorIn Y, there's a scene where the Noir cast talk about their counterparts in this world and Noir Musashi doesn't like Commander Musashi (if you get to this stage after the Emperor stage). The others even cheer him up for a bit.Noir Ryoma has battle dialogue against Saint Dragon where he yells he won't be consumed by it.And now they should get more direct dialogue in the new expansion. But it sounds like they're going with them turning against Emperor as they're influenced by the A.Advent crew and gain their freedom.
>>23966614>but is it going to be Y2No
Z2 remaster is also a big deal because its pretty much THE 00's series SRW. I hope it leads to us seeing more use of stuff from then in modern games. People who grew up then have nostalgia too, just like people do for the older stuff.
>>23966626So a bunch of rebellious ingrates? Perhaps they do need to be purged and a new batch of clones made.
>>23966614They had already said there wouldn't be a Y2, but this expansion confirms that once again with it finishing tWfM at least. Getter Arc now pending.Dynazenon -> Gridman Universe as a Y sequel would be a mess due to Y changing Dynazenon's lore (making all characters part of the real world, with the dimensional distortions being from Godzilla, rather than all being part of Gridman's internal worlds and the distortion being Mad Origin). When we get Gridman Universe, the Gridman/Dynazenon's casts will be from pocket dimensions like in 30.
>>23966617>since we are getting CalibarnReminder to everyone, I told you all it'd be DLC. Probably won't be in next game now. They'll probably want to focus on Gquuuux and Seed Freedom. Maybe even XARX if the roster isn't decided before it airs.
>>23966641Universe would be better off saved until they do Gquux
>>23966642>XARXNot sure about that one but I can totally see Rogue Orbit being DLC in a future game if only to promote the game
Y'all just being even stupider about the DLC now huh? I swear some of you lot act like actual conspiracy theorists.
>>23966644Which they will likely do in the next game as well
>>23966646Yeah, I'm iffy on that too mostly because we have no way to know when they will settle on a roster. It could even already be done. But if they haven't while they focus on Z2 remaster, it does have a chance, even if slim.
Fafner crumbs...Please...
>>23966221There's absolutely no way it's a full asset redo. Most I can see happening is proper sprites and maps and new UI
>>23966652Portable jail like Gaiking LODM, at least Shin Jeeg is in DD
>>23966652You may have to pray for a UX remaster
>>23966654I hope Shin Jeeg and Dancouga Nova make returns now. I want them in new games
>>23966657Well Nova is getting new assets because of Z2 remake so maybe a L or UX remake
>>23966662I want them in new games.
>>23966655But I want Exodus...
>>23966668A UX remaster could very well be the first step on the way to accomplishing that
Ready for the motherfucking debt master to come to Y in 2 days?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKm1bHO-rg
>>23966533I didn't. I liked spec v.
>>23966557lol lmao anoneven the favorites of this general recycled series and/or has a lot of gundam entries
>>23966677the recycles were the least of the issues, maybe I was just annoyed at the immediate reuse of alot of the series from 30, but the amount of gundams were definitely a turn off.
>>23966680Yeah, unless you're playing Neo you're going to get at least 2 or 3 Gundam series in any given SRW
>>2396668230 having 6 including IBO in dlc at least to me felt fine because both and the game treated Gundam, Zeta and CCA as 1 large cast, especially because it was set after those events. So it felt more like 3 with a 4th in dlc for me.
>>23966682That said, if you want an overall lower amount of Gundams, you may want to try out the handheld SRWs from J onward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxFqGW9wkuc
fix esther
>>23966696Make her talk in a texan accent
>Advent in 30>Crowe in YThe true Villain and Hero of Z trilogy
>>23966703>Advent in 30 said that he has been living in his little realm for like 10.000 years>Caruleum is in Y>Crowe is also in YWhat if Crowe in Y is 10025 years old?
>>23966707Surely his debt would be paid off by then.
>>23966707>>23966711Compound interest.
>>23966668I'm honestly kind of stunned they haven't debuted it yet, basically everyone who watched it agreed it was brilliant, major entry in ongoing franchise, Sunrise literally acquired XEBEC, etc. It just doesn't make any sense why we're waiting for it and get dogshit like Macross Delta instead
>>23966421With a new Protagonist?
>>23966680>maybe I was just annoyed at the immediate reuse of alot of the series from 30That's how SRW works, pretty much everything just uses shit from previous games with a few new things here and there, though admittedly Y was a bit more extreme about it than usualWhat pisses me off is that they made literally every single fresh and interesting series in Y DLC instead of part of the main roster, so I'm only gonna buy the game on a steep discount if I ever do actually buy it.
>>23966723The powers that be consider Macross of greater priority, I guess
>>23966729They are doing a huge push of Macross in the west now it is free from Harmony Gold
>>23966732Wait it's finally free? When did that happen? I thought Harmony Gold still had a hold of SDF and only other Macross series could come to the West if they removed reference to it or paid HG for it.
>>23966642>>Probably won't be in next game nowironically has a higher chance because the z2 remaster will certainly be between this game and the next so they don't have to worry about cannibalizing dlc
>>23966723With the death of handled exclusive titles and longer console dev time, I fear SRW has accumulated a long list of "debuts" and it's having an hard time going through it as quickly as it could in the past
>>23966733Everything but SDF/DYRL is free
>>23966736Almost... but I guess it's better than nothing.
>>23966735True handhelds dying was the worst thing to happen to videogames, right alongside HD meme bullshit
>>23966732Not that I'm seeing. Macross is kind of a dead franchise at this point. It only ever got one show per decade in the past anyway, and it doesn't even seem like it's gonna get that much in the 2020s. I think Delta may have unironically killed it, like there was obvious desire for more after Frontier blew up, but now, people seem to bring up Macross more just to spite HG than because they actually enjoy it>>23966735I don't think it's like that. Because ultimately there's only a handful of shows in the past decade or so that people really care about. What's strange is that we're getting rando picks like Knights & Magic before they've finished running through the bigger shows
>>23966735AgeFafner Exodus/BeyondValvraveAldnoahBuddy ComplexSidoniaG-RecoFranxxPromareBravernFreedomG-QuxA couple AquarionsAm I missing anything?
>>23966744AGE already debuted in BX. That aside, I personally would add Sentai Red Isekai to the list
>>23966744Like 3/4 of those have already debuted my man
>>23966744>A couple AquarionsI guess they can do Logos but MOE was one of the most blandest and boring mecha shows I have ever watched
>>23966740Handheld SRWs died before the 3ds itself did. The sales were just too low by the time of UX and BX. The line ups were often just too weird and lacked your usual mainstay SRW series. Like BX had as its big Gundam debuts AGE and SD Gundam Gaiden (which was big back in the 90s, but it's clear classic SD lost popularity which is why SRW dropped the "Gundams with pupils" look in the first place).>>23966743There is a new Macross by Sunrise announced, just no info at all about it aside from it existing.
>>23966747AGE was only Gen 3 but to do AGE properly you would either need timeskips, time travel or multiple games and they won't go through that effort for fucking AGE
>>23966584Maybe my memory is a bit foggy but didn't Z2 "fixed" Pocket full of rainbows? I do remember some of the beats from the movie done in Z2.1 but everything with Z2.2 was pot-movie liberties if I recall correctly. I admit it's been a long time since I touched Z2...
>>23966744This list has stuff on it that's already in SRW
>>23966743Sunrise is supposed to be working on the next entry but Sunrise was also supposed to be working on a proper Akira adaption too and not a peep for that too.
>>23966761>>23966754Why Sunrise? Is Satelight incapable of animating their own shit these days?
I really hope the cross-series combination moves stick around in future entries, It is always something that fans have been pleading for years...
>>23966763A bunch of Satellite's animators went to make Studio Kai which is under a different parent company I think
>>23966754Literally irrelevant, retarded handheld anti. Kill yourself.
>>23966786>Literally irrelevant, retarded handheld anti.If it were irrelevant they wouldn't have stopped making handheld SRWs until a few years later at least. BX was from 2015. The Switch only launched by 2017 and tons of 3rd parties were still making 3ds games even afterwards since they didn't trust the Switch would be a success initially.The handheld games died by themselves, not due to the 3ds being replaced by the Switch.
>>23966801I reiterate: Literally irrelevant, retarded handheld anti. Neck yourself.
>>23966754>The line ups were often just too weird and lacked your usual mainstay SRW series.That was the point, dumbass, the handheld titles had a younger public in mind, hence why most series lineups were heavy on the 2000s-2010s range, with a couple of token 'old guard' series around, aaaand>>23966801You assume that is the case because you only see the releases of SRW titles in isolation, but that was not the case at the time, Bamco had invested in a sizable number of spin-offs and related crossover games at the time, like the Masou Kishin games, new Compati Hero games and stuff like Project X Zone and Super Heroine Chronicle, and by BX release they were already shutting all of that down, no matter how BX and UX sold, they were already downsizing everything to just 'mainline' releases and gacha because of 'changes' in gaming landscape, platforms and modern development practices. And by that I mean more profits.Also all of this culling leads to Bamco starting in 2017 something called "Project Sky Blue", which turned out to be Blue Protocol.
>>23966758It barely matters if they "fix" it because in the few stages it has there's barely any spectacle aside from that final fight against Holland in Hakai, Nirvash Spec 2 has nothing going for it, no SevenSwell, no new attacks, nothing. And Spec V is extremely bland compared to Spec 3.The only thing that saves it as a playable unit is having Eureka and Nirvash as subpilots, even Renton has no special skills here.
>>23965773For some reason i could see him hanging out with Dynazenon team like how Edge hanging out with Gridman Alliance
>>23966756Counts whether you accept it or not.
>Ryoma has a kid>Kouji has an adopted brother or some shit like that. also where the fuck is his God Scrander and what the fuck is a Mazinkaiser
>>23966824Well... At least there's another Duo!
>>23966529Wait, where's Voltron and Optimus Prime?
>>23966524I think there's even a brief cameo of Michiru before she bites it.
>>23966835Yeah pops up alive a couple of times before the events of Armageddon really kick in late in Z2.2. In fact aside from that one support animation in DD, it is the only time we see her Armageddon self alive in SRW.
>>23966824>Why the fuck is this Detective and his partner keep asking me about medals
>>23966829Both are Japanese. Voltron is originally a Toei anime called Beast King GoLion. Transformers is from the diaclone toyline by Takara, a Japanese toy company. Kawamori, Macross guy, designed Convoy (Optimus Prime in the US) for Takara.
>>23966824>>23966842>Why is Lelouch immortal?>Why is Eureka an adult? And where is Renton?
>>23966824Man, too bad we couldn't get the reaction of any of the OGs to Mazinkaiser's debut in Y. They did say Crowe is integrated into the main plot, I guess they just meant the expansion. If he actually has lines in the main story, it'd be cool to see.
>>23966849>They did say Crowe is integrated into the main plotThey made it sound like Crowe will be one of the main characters in it yeah, probably because of the Z2 Remaster but still very interesting we are getting an old OG actually doing something in the plot.
>>23966824Too bad there's no 00 in Y even if it's post S1.In Saisei Crowe spends his time going to space to visit Lockon's grave whenever he can.
>>23966696Esther was fine in Z2. The problem was Z3 demoted her entirely to engine but Z3 fucked up basically everything. Seriously was there a payoff to anything in Z3 that wasn't a complete letdown?
>>23966733They only have a strangle hold on SDF which Japan isn't really all that interested in anyway. Though that means the only Alpha game they can remaster is Alpha 2
>>23966735Yeah but on the other hand mecha is so dead lately that there's not that much to debut anyway.
>>23966743>Knights And MagicThat was entirely there so Ernie could gush about robots and nothing else. There's a reason they skipped basically everything.
>>23966861DYRL is also a no-go since that one's turbo-fucked when it comes to licensing.
>>23966861Alpha 2 has Daimos, Crossbone, Brain Powerd and Ibis.I'm totally ok with that
>>23966870Wrong target, anon. I just like thing that you don't like.
>>23966870Will you fucking kill yourself or stop sharing your obsession here please
>>23966865Also he has some scenes with Akane because their VAs are best friends in real life
>>23966877Kill yourself sperg
>>23966743>like Knights & Magic before they've finishedThere's like a single digit number of isekaishit adaptions that will ever finish even if their source material had a real ending in the first place.
>>23966870>>23966877Ibis isn't even lesbian. Tsugumi is a widow, and Sleigh is a brocon, so Filio has more in common with both than Ibis has with them. Kill yourself, larper.
>>23966885Kill yourself
>>23966880the post wasn't about that, it was about how they're doing Knights & Magic before stuff like Fafner even though no one really cares about K&M while a lot of people care about FafnerOf course, Fafner would take way more work, but still, if they were gonna do a more modern show, you'd think it'd be one of the first things they'd turn to
>>23966887It would be nice to see any of the DS or 3DS debuts return. So far, only Gun x Sword returned in T and 30 and Shin Jeeg in DD. One I would really love to see return is Mazinkaiser SKL or any of the SD Gundams.
>>23966890Gaiking LODM and Godannar as well
>>23966890SKL is really bizarre since it's Dynamic Pro, minimal effort, and something no one would complain about if it got DLC'd. They want to do something new with Mazinger basically every game these days, it's like they're deliberately trying everything possible to avoid SKL no matter little sense it makes
>>23966881>>23966886>sees the TD trio showing their asses>think all three are lesbians, even the widow and her sister-in-lawI forgot the unmentionable one doesn't play the games.
>>23966859She had a whole build up about her Dimensional Beast abilities to end up as a fucking battery was just plain off, like not even have her Brasta show up for the Solarion attack was fucked.
>>23966893I know people, including myself, were hoping for them to appear in Y and interacting with the Arc cast.
>>23966893>it's like they're deliberately trying everything possible to avoid SKL no matter little sense it makesSome people think that adding SKL means they have to skip a more traditional Mazinger series, even though BX had then coexisting just fine.
>>23966896Oh yeah. If it ever manages to return, I've been hoping Thunderbolt debuts along with it so we get a game where the entire trinity has edgy maniac protagonists
>>23966899They even have a combo as well
is it Z2 part one and two combined or what
>>23966903They just announced part 1 but part 2 is pretty much a given
>>23966905>it's not a full compilationI HATE THE SRW ANTICHRIST
>>23966899I don't think anyone would even care about that at this point when the alternative for new Mazinger content is Grendizer U.
>>23966911People would definitely complain about Mazinger without Kouji.
>>23966911What was the reception for Grendizer U? Did France and the mid east like it at least?
>>23966908Gotta make the fans double dip. Plus it gives them more time to make the Saisei assets
>>23966876Retard, they have scenes together because they're both from the real world
>>23966913No, it wasn't liked anywhere.
>>23966908If this is a remaster a la Raidou or SO Second Story, it makes sense, since both would bloat the size of the game. If not, it's for time and money.
>>23966893I think its more that not a lot of people really give a shit about SKL
>>23966895Worse, she had a fucking cut-in and it actually went unused in the finished game. We only know it exists because it cropped up in the game files.
>>23966908desu SRW is kind of hell for remakes if they're actually redrawing things, it's nearly as much work as doing a new game except for the writing. Even with stuff they can reuse from Z3 onwards, Z2 has a ton of shit that hasn't been back since.
>>23966925That's why I'm thinking we'll be seeing Wing TV, Geass TV and 00 TV in future games so the all the work can be used. No complaint from me
>>23966912>People would definitely complain about Mazinger without Kouji.Yeah, me.
>>23966927This also gives then enough to make more assets to series like Daiguard, Godmars, Tetsujin or Votoms. They couldn't get much with just Z3 assets.
>>23966842I forgot that OOO and Greed might have existed in Y universe since A to Z is canon to Fuuto Pi
>>23966934>Cakeboss exists in Y >He sings happy birthday when he first see A.Advent fly for the first time
>>23966934>>23966938By that logic, so does every Neo-Heisei KR entry except Build, because that is explicit separate universe. I like to think this Skull is the very same one that Decade card briefly summoned to give Shotaro closure in Movie War 2010.>A younger Gentaro yells UCHUUU KITAAAA when he sees the Rabbits battle on TV
>>23966946Gentaro might have been the active current Rider by the Time of Fuuto Pi >Echika: We don't talk about that one small base on the moon, ever.
>>23966925Hopefully they're outsourcing to TOSE again
>All of the 2010's mainline protags are in Y except for Hibiki
>>23966908>>23966920They're practically remaking the game to fit within the confines of Y's engine. When you remember that Hakai + Saisei together is roughly 113 stages just for a single run, it only makes sense that they'd split them up.
>>23966955And Ichitaka, Arnie, and Youta
>>23966956Yeah, but on the other hand, Y and 30 probably have more total stages than that, don't they
>>23966955What if Hibiki is the Final Boss considering all of fhe Edel References in the previous DLC boss
>>23966957I thought they are count as Handled protags?
>>23966960Real OG2 Axel moment there
>>23966958I figure porting/upscaling animations is a bigger manpower hog than copying the stage scripting over. But Z2 has a lot of units anyways so either way volume of content is the sticking point.
>>23966859ttgl
>>23966958Hakai + Saisei = 189 maps.30/Y have a lot of bloat in stage count when account for the glorified puzzle robo maps and DLC. But remember, Hakai/Saisei are almost certainly going to be them rerendering all of the Z2 assets in the new engine instead of getting away with a ton of asset reuse like 30 did for example.
>>23966961Handheld is also mainline
>>23966964hope
>>23966967glad my meme finally stuck
I just hope they bring it back someday, also I wanna know what was up with that unused huge knife blade in the sprite assets, was that supposed to come out of the Genion Gai's cube thruster?
>>23966960>Y with ends with Crowe being forced to kill Hibiki before he becomes another Edel
>Z2.1 and Z2.2 are successful>they add Amaricute and Azcute as Time Jannies on Z3, hell maybe even on Z2.2
>>23966979Wouldn't be that far off actually, Suzune was already an Edel herself...
Marg is back
>>23966983And AG.That kid is surrounded by Edels
On the off-chance new stuff is added, would be kinda neat if they added the CGs for certain story moments like Y did here and there.
>>23966985Marg should babytrap Crowe already>so he can stay away from Sexsuko
>>23966980Pull a FF7R with Z2R, that way we can retcon Z3 entirely out of the timeline.
>>23966980This would retroactively create a time paradox in 30 unless we're also supposed to understand the remaster as a different timeline/universe than the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvvfZylSVw8English PV
>>23966987I can see things like Ace talks, Assist characters and perhaps even side-missions happening to expand a bit on some characters. I would love to see new combination attacks but I'm keeping my expectations in check.
>>23966985>Cuckgueritte Pisstail
>>23966927So, does that mean the few Kyoukai Senki that wanted in SRW alongside Code Geass will finally get their wish?
>ENTERS ons SRW Z3 remake along with MasakiBased
>>23966996No
>>23966998Sucks for them, I guess.
>>23966997The reunion
>>23967001>Noriko and Ikue at the same time
>>23966989The next "New Game" after the Z2 remasters is a total rebuild of Z3
>>23967007Nah, no thanks. Sounds like a shitty waste of time
what if hakai but 9 skill slots
>>23967013
>>23967007>Z3 but this time they can reuse all the HD assets from Z2R>all of ZEUTH don't get Sumeragi'd>No more Attack-only units, no more Solarion shit>Mazinger actually loves to the "real potential" and becomes Zero>Gargantia actually has Xabungle walker machine and breakers>Timp gets to still be part of the Beck squad>Aquarion actually gets all forms and attacks back>Final Dancouga doesn't disappear from the plot>FMP units actually descent animation>The Gravion ending actually happens and Sandman finally marries in SRWI wouldn't mind this...
Holy ESL
>>23967013If they decided to make everyone similar to their Saisei selves with a few exceptions, that would be hilarious.
>>23967020who would get especially broken here?
>>23967017>Timp, Beck, Kan Yu and Gates finally what everyone truly wanted
>>23966993>33 new area missionsThat's a pretty sizable amount isn't it? IF that's all actual stages and not just dialogue ones, isn't that like double the previous DLCs?
>>239670238 of them are new front missions though, since the Expansion is separate from the main game (it imports your save though).And we're probably going to face the series final bosses again due to the time travel plot. And each new attack likely will get a stage of its own.
If they go really crazy with the Z2 remake and end up adding a whole new series and actually try to integrate it into the game, what would you want it to be?
>>23967035
>>23967035That's not happening retard
>>23967035>what would you want it to be?Easy choiceIt wouldn't even need much if any rewriting, its just an expanded Geass TV plot
>>23967036Learning that he got rejected by the girl from that anime instead of expanding his harem even more makes him much less of a shitpost in my eyes.
>>23967013I won't be surprised if they copy over the current stuff like unlimited skill slots
>>23967063they're calling Super Robot Wars ZII: Resurrection "the easiest SRW game ever made"
>>23967067This is a good thing btw
>>23967025Are the new attacks only usable in the postgame expansion? That's lame, I'm far from finishing it.
>>23967067As long as Hakai still has PP, having unlimited skill slots would be moot since no one can really afford more than like 6-8 skills (accounting for their innates) per run.
>>23967013Saisei had like 8.
I'm guessing the new route in the DLC is gonna have the Animus Clan returning to full strength? I mean they're basically hanging on in post game stages but are still the only OG enemies left. And the new OG enemy ships in the trailer does kinda have the organic alien feel like that original monster thing they created.
>>23967101So what happens to the original timeline once we're sent to the past?
>>23967001>>23967005>TFW you turn back to your villain side out of jealousy
>>23967109Mai you already won in Alpha 3, give other people a chance
Think the full animation for the L-Gaim and Dunbine combo will have the two fairies cut in as well?
>>23966974You can’t bring it back without bringing worst Z protagonist back.
>>23967119They'd be daft if they didn't
>>23966946I'd say the two that have the best cases for being canon to W are OOO (because OOO killed the Luna Dopant in A-to-Z) and Drive (because Accel appears in Chase's movie for a police jurisdiction sideplot and has a kid by then, which Fuuto PI hasn't set up yet, on top of both being Riku Sanjo works).>>23967041You shouldn't let the tourist who doesn't even play his games let alone SRW cloud your judgement on who he really is. Like, that dude has serious issues that it takes him until Reverie to fully overcome, he's not a self-insert. Even the harem thing isn't unique to him, Lloyd's in the same boat and they similarly refuse to commit to anything with any of barrier boy's options.
Celebrating the 35th anniversaryIn an era where humanoid weapons have become commonplace, the games themselves keep on evolving. Since it's the 35th anniversary, it wouldn't be interesting just by simply saying "congratulations" , so I want you to ask yourselves, "What's next?" If you do, games will evolve even further (in the shadows). Heh heh heh... Let's imagine the next 35th anniversary, everyone!Yoshiyuki Tomino
>>23967035Honestly, if it's more akin to a remake using Z2's corpse, I wouldn't mind more secrets that don't invade on the plot. Z2 was really stringent on secrets.Stuff like more MSV-style stuff ie Avalanche Exia, Kyrios Gust, Dynames Torpedo, etc.
>>23967165I hope they use this chance to actually make guest units like Epyon, Susanoo, Kokubogar or RX3 actually join and be playable. They could easily fit it as secrets and wouldn't contradict the original game that much.
>>23967168Since this remake is just hakai hen we won't even be seeing Epyon, or any of the upgraded Gundams.
>>23967174Yeah I know but I spoke about Z2 in a more general sense, considering Z2.2 will come later.
>>23967035They shouldnt add new series because Z2 already has issues with the cast that it has.
>importing a clear file basically just lets everyone start with DashThat's nice.
>>23967035FMP since they were in the background of Z2
>>23967168I want them to let me keep Armored Klan, fucking L did it.
>>23967168At least even if they don't make those units permanent, I'm sure someone will make a mod for it like what happened with YSame for the anniversary DLC, if the new content is only available in the dlc someone could make a mod to make it usable in the main game
>>23967186I usually buy Fighting Spirit first for everyone and then go for either Dash or S Rank.
>>23967035how do you fit sd gundam g generation into this
>you're a merc and your starting buddies are Quatre and DuoReminds me of W.
>>23967155>You shouldn't let the tourist who doesn't even play his games let alone SRW cloud your judgement on who he really is. Like, that dude has serious issues that it takes him until Reverie to fully overcome, he's not a self-insert. Even the harem thing isn't unique to him, Lloyd's in the same boat and they similarly refuse to commit to anything with any of barrier boy's options.agreed. The reasons why people shitpost with Rean over Lloyd are:1. Cold Steel came out before Zero/Azure2. Rean's Japanese VA also voices a god awful MC from a shit anime
>>23965641https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdYyCniyvIHere are its animations in Lost Stories. It uses a reflector to turn its Hadron Blaster in a spread shot.
>>23967223That's actually pretty cool, shame it took until a fucking gacha for Lulu to finally have a machine that's as theatrical as he is.
>>23967223>We have Shinkiro at home.
>>23967158Based old man.
>>23966824>I thought it was only a much harder armor. Why is Kouji getting a whole new mech?
>>23967223That arm cannon has the same storyboard as 30's attack, huh.
>>23967165Should let me use Nena as a secret and also give her more than one attack>b-but the z2.2 sceneI don't care, they've given us worse people before and since then
>>23967223Wonder if they'll ever touch Genesic Recode and all the weird shit that was in that one.
>it only takes 230k cash money to get someone to 5 bars in everything in SaiseiThat's really cheap.
I think some of you are expecting too much from the Hakai-hen remaster.It's a REMASTER; it's gonna be mostly the same outside of some HD assets, and who knows how even that will turn out.The only DLC it could possibly get will be like what V and X got; just some extra missions.
Its rather amusing that Baral and the Yokijin fill a similar role to the 70s SR villains in the Alpha 2 plot along with the Ruina.Totetsuoh slowly devouring an entire base of civilians in front of the ATX Team to the point that Irui got pissed off and summons two of the Custos is the kind of stuff you'd expect Yami no Teioh to do.
>>23967266The remaster lingo is meaningless here since it cannot be a traditional remaster as they cannot keep the same code, it will be akin to AP
>>23967266They aren't gonna put PSP resolution sprites next to new shit dude
>>23967266I wouldn't mind some DLC missions desu. Just side stuff like school shenanigans or a Miss ZEXIS contest is enough to make me happy and it won't mess with the actual plot
>>23967271The new shit looks worse no matter the resolution.
>>23967275Good job missing the point
>>23967266They already said they are doing it in the Y engine, which means is not an import but basically redoing all units like they had to for Y as well. Also the fact some units will need an overhaul as they were made for very small resolution in mind.
>>23967266Why do people like you always confidently have a retarded statement to say when you basically know nothing about what you're talking about.
I'm pretty sure they said they're just upping the resolution on the assetsAs long as they didn't get rid of the original animation data they should be able to just import it with new assets
Honestly rewatching some units and some of then will for sure need a much needed improvement. I don't see then trying upscale Turn A sprites from Z1 when Z3 already have HD assets made by Arios guy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7PqsvKuJwkhttps://youtu.be/DDf5pgMxYII
>>23967280>As long as they didn't get rid of the original animation data they should be able to just import it with new assetsPretty sure they said this wasn't possible with Y engine, which is why that game took longe than expected.
>>23967280The entire point of Y taking so long was them creating a brand new engine because the old one was too difficult to work with due to all of the experts aging out of the workforce, it being forced to do stuff it wasnt meant to do, etc.Y is going to be like AP where they basically recreate the animatioms from older games but in a way that makes it almost indistinguishable from a port. Same trick with OGs to 2ndOG.
>>23967285ZII but you get the point.
>>23967283All the reused stuff is pretty 1:1 so I'm not sure if that's the case, getting so close to the original without the original files is almost more impressive than making new animations
>>23967287They had the original sprites so most of the work probably went into recreating all the animations from the ground up. Z2R will most likely keep the same choreography for the most part so most of the work would be going into the sprites.
>>23967287They said in an interview around Y's release that they didn't have an automated way to copy paste the old animation data over. It's all redone even if they matched the timings it's because some dev was manually translating it over.
>>23967291Well then I'm impressed
>>23967287seehttps://www.famitsu.com/article/202509/50907パイロットのボイス収録は本当に気を使う――どちらサイドからも、「楽しいことを実現したい」という意気込みを感じますね。『スパロボ』では大迫力の戦闘アニメの存在も特徴ですが、近年のタイトルでは、アニメ顔負けのクオリティーを実現されています。長い歴史の中で制作方法に変化はあるのでしょうか。宇田 じつのところ、旧作から最新作まで、基本的な制作方法は変わっていないんです。機体は、手や足などの特定の部位を個別に動かして全体のアニメーションを表現する“パーツアニメーション”と呼んでいる手法を採用しています。 ただ、データ構造上ハードをまたいだ移植がしにくいため、今後どういった制作を行うべきかというのは長年の課題です。名倉 ハードの進化に合わせてグラフィックの解像度が高くなると、機体の描き込みの作業量も増えるので、非常にたいへんです。そういった点も考え、3Dモデルと2Dグラフィックを融合させる手法も積極的に取り入れていっています。 しかし、3Dではできない2Dならではの表現もありますのでそこは臨機応変な対応が必要になると考えています。宇田 『スパロボ30』の戦闘アニメは一部『スパロボY』にも登場していますが、ゲームエンジンを刷新した影響で、厳密には作り直しをしています。『スパロボY』が前作の発売から4年を要したのは、戦闘アニメの作り直しも影響している部分がありました。パイロットのボイス収録は本当に気を使う――どちらサイドからも、「楽しいことを実現したい」という意気込みを感じますね。『スパロボ』では大迫力の戦闘アニメの存在も特徴ですが、近年のタイトルでは、アニメ顔負けのクオリティーを実現されています。長い歴史の中で制作方法に変化はあるのでしょうか。宇田 じつのところ、旧作から最新作まで、基本的な制作方法は変わっていないんです。機体は、手や足などの特定の部位を個別に動かして全体のアニメーションを表現する“パーツアニメーション”と呼んでいる手法を採用しています。 ただ、データ構造上ハードをまたいだ移植がしにくいため、今後どういった制作を行うべきかというのは長年の課題です。名倉 ハードの進化に合わせてグラフィックの解像度が高くなると、機体の描き込みの作業量も増えるので、非常にたいへんです。そういった点も考え、3Dモデルと2Dグラフィックを融合させる手法も積極的に取り入れていっています。 しかし、3Dではできない2Dならではの表現もありますのでそこは臨機応変な対応が必要になると考えています。宇田 『スパロボ30』の戦闘アニメは一部『スパロボY』にも登場していますが、ゲームエンジンを刷新した影響で、厳密には作り直しをしています。『スパロボY』が前作の発売から4年を要したのは、戦闘アニメの作り直しも影響している部分がありました。
>>23967287>>23967291>>23967292Note it's not redrawing the individual sprites, but they do need to put the animation assets together again. If you compare Y's animations to previous games you can see several times they've changed the timing of small movements here and there.Some of that is intentional, since they were putting everything back together again, but like in this Red Five animation, you can see one of the background explosions has slightly different timing in 30 and Y. They were trying to recreate the same animation but due to having to redo the animation data (even if it's using the same drawings) you end up with this.
>>23967299pasted it twice by accident but you get the point, they spent a lot of their time redoing old shit
https://twitter.com/mini4crazy/status/2084251261432725568Rest in peace, Katsushi Murakami. Passed away on July 20.
I don't what is a remake and what is a remaster anymore after seeing DW 3 remastered
>>23967308The Japanese dont know what the difference is, that game is a remake
>>23967308Port - SRWV PS to SRWV PCRemaster - Tales of Graces PS3 to Tales of Graces PCRemake - SRWA to SRWAP
>>23967308Back in my day, when studios brought back the same game for a port/remake/remaster, they usually added stuff
>>23967308>>23967310>>23967311It's like how they call Raidou Remastered, but that game is a remake
>They remade all of the animations of the units in previous games from scratch>Mazinkaiser still has it's black boxes during nova
>>23967035You know its not that far of a stretch to say theyll add new when Ys dlc characters often barely said anything. That wouldnt really count as integrating though. They gotta sell dlc somehow though
>>23967325yeah. it looks like a remaster but added the gameplay from 2 and changed some of the dialogue at the end area.Like the "Raidou saw a vision of the 2020s" went from a SMT reference to bringing up the Covid Pandemic. Or "the Vision of the 70s" went from the Moon Landing and 2 random events to the Moon Landing, Margert Thatcher being elected, and Pele retiring
So it's safe to say they're using srw Y's Big O for z2 R right?
>>23967335Probably
>>23967335I'd be shocked if they weren't
>>23967335With the S2 attacks lifted from Z3 probably
>>23967308Remember they made FF7 Remake as a sequel of the original game. That should tell you enough of how different their perception of both terms are.
>>23967338>>23967337>>23967336That makes me wonder...if they're reanimating units for remasters...then Ideon could mean... >_>
>>23967341Maybe we'll get F/F Final down the line, who knows? It's more likely they wanted another Sunrise robot for Y's DLC, and we hadn't had Ideon for a long while.
>>23967335Yeah, I also expect then to use the same Godmars from Z3. The Muteki Trio will most likely be the same fromVXT games but with including Z2 moves.
>>23967345but also*
>>23967308the upcoming Touhou Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (New Classic) has 2 remakes in itthe main one being a shiny+features and the side where it looks like the original but it's not the original cause lost code and whatnotat this point the words are a mess
Please reanimate Gurren Lagann well.
>SRW Z3 Turn A
>they just completely redo Z3 after the Hakai/Saisei remasters>can finally finish Rebuild in a SRW
We still have to see an actual trailer for the remaster though.It's possible it's super low effort slop.
They are most likely calling Z2 Remastered because they are keeping the core story and roster list the same. Kind of how Crisis Core Reunion is seem as a remaster by Square by keeping the same story but the visuals and gameplay are way ahead of the original game.
>>23967358It can't be super low effort because they can't even import the animations in Y engine and some units were made for low resolution, they have to redo pretty much everything.
Lot of soap in here
>>23967358We're probably a year out to its release.
>>23967332I think some side stuff to the existing roster or even some Z1 or adjacent stuff could be easy to work inFor example, Code Geass has Lost Stories now, and its just the original plot with the protagonist plot added on. Adding him on would be easy. And since he does a double agent thing, could even add in a couple extra Lancelot stages.Or they bring in Grendizer or Grendizer U to have that.
>>23967368SRW doesn't usually announce stuff so far ahead of release but I guess they wanted something new to talk about for the stream besides DLC
>>23967301Man, Y's UI is such hot garbage
Man Orguss is just depressing in Hakai-hen. Imagine going back to that when Z3 Orguss is right there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxe0OeZhuKghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NFHLxTSEg
Do I need to beat the game to unlock new attacks and units in trailer?
>>23967368Depending on how far they've got it planned out (like if they've started on it already), I could see the latter bit of FY2027. That way, they could release whatever a new thing is in FY2028 and then release Saisei the year after in the off year, thus splitting the development cost.
>>23966662> L remake> Iczer in glorious Full HD, AND as a potential filler series to tap for a new SRW game - because Bamco never stops at just one.FUND IT !!
I want Wrong Tetsujin in a game with Gorg.
>>23966895Z3-2 was a rushed game with a cursed development cycle after way too much crunch time to pump out two titles per year. Something had to give eventually.Personally, if Z3 ends up remastered, I DO hope they fix Z3-2.
>>23966960...what if the god damned cat is this dimension's Edel ?
>>23966993> 33 new area missionsDamn. That's chonky. That's like half the original game if they're actually all story missions and they're not counting additional simulator challenges and treasure hunts as 'area missions.' (They are- of course.)
>>23967410It's 25 story missions and 8 front missions, but they did say in the full stream presentation the front missions have "special" scenarios in the first playthrough.
>>23967415So 12 stages for each new attack, 5 for new units, probably 5 for each new unit to get a new attack, and 3 final plot stages.
Duel got a global ban, I hope it's permanent.
>>23967281They might only have to update Gold SUMO since that's the only other Turn A unit in Z2. Sochie and that other girl only appear as assists for Loran.
You guys are just setting yourself up for disappointment (or maybe you're just setting up the groundwork for shitposting). They never mentioned anything about new series/content or something like that.
update when?
>>23967433I don't think everyone is necessarily expecting new series but assume DLC must happen, some folk just want a couple of guest units to be playable that were already in the game. Maybe new attacks for some of zeuth members because they do get fucked in the original game.
>>23967415These are after you clear the base game stages and beat either the emperor dude or the girl?
>>23967433>They never mentioned anything about new series/content or something like thatI mean, SRW has never had a 'remaster' either. At most, we've always had different versions that have always changed things up to some extent, like 2 to 2G, 4 to the F duo, Alpha to Alpha DC (which added both combination attacks and G-Breaker), Compact 2 to Impact, etc.
>>23967406The major issue with Z3-2 though is that they blew their load in Z3-1. Some major storylines were cleared there including the culmination of Char and his personal arc and you fight Anti-Spiral, massive finales that would have been better saved for the actual final game.
>>23967447>you fight Anti-SpiralI remember people thinking wack things when it came to Tengoku like a secret playable Anti-Spiral.
>>23967446We know at a minimum what sprite redraws will probably look like if they just trace over the existing shit, it'll be like OGs -> 2ndOG but without the additional cut-ins added.
Isn't the update for Y today?
>>23967463Two more days.
>>23967447Would it have made more sense to focus on CCA in Jigoku-Hen then save for Unicorn for Tengoku-hen rather than do both at the same time. Even if it was funny for Char to pretend to drop Axis only for Full Frontal to do it for real.
Any tips for Battle Rush 2? Furthest I made is the black Stellas (Round 12 or 13)
>>239674631.4 should be a few hours, DLC is tomorrow
>>23967440Yeah, the Anniversary Expansion will be a separate option in the main menu that loads your clear file.
I'm started to get worried about how the Z2 english announcement is in Bamco's SEA channel but not the american one
>>23967478Get someone with Unity in, get Getter arc in, then let Takuma kill everything by spamming ZealWhen his SPs are running low use the Reiko or Anosillus support to restore him to full, when you don't have enough supporter points use your Unity pilot to restore them, and in case restore their SP with another Reiko/Anosillus call before going back to make Arc kill everything
>>23967483https://x.com/BandaiNamcoUS/status/2084323660614021333
>>23967483Bandai NA only uploaded the Y expansion trailer like an hour ago they're probably just behind because of timezones or laziness.
>>23967484Thanks I knew about using the 2nd but I wasn't sure if I should replace attacker with a Unity user
>>23967480Thanks just making sure>>23967472People forget that they use the SEA timezone for DLC release dates and because of that DLC actually come out a day earlier. SO the DLC should be out around 6pm EST tomorrow since Tuesday and Thursday is the days steam update the store
>>23967483They posted it on Twitter at least.
>>23967487Shoving everything down some roided Zeal users (Arc, Amuro, etc) and then filling the rest of the spots with characters like Quess, Quatre, Olibee, etc is basically the meta. It's utterly degenerate in a really boring way.
>>23967489>Super Robot Wars ZII Ruination RemasteredIt really is a mouthful when put in full like that, ain’t it?
>>23967493And we are still probably call it Hakai-hen because we are all weebs
>>23967495I'm just too used to calling it Hakai-hen.
>>23967367we need soup instead
>>23967497https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNcYtcVn-8k
>>23967492>>23967487Yeah, I don't like this one turn challenge because it really funnels everything into zeal users with unity characters to sustain.
>>23967447Z3.2 was just Diebuster, Gargantia, some VOTOMs stuff, Macross F movie, the last part of Unicorn and the actual 00 Movie plot
we still love her
>>23967504Ranka's a lovely girl but she's just not the kind of person that Alto needs.
>>23967504No we don't.
>>23967504Imagine if they add Tobikage DLC to Z2
>>23967513Where the fuck was he in Y?
https://zip.2chan.net/2/res/1814060.htm
>>23967504
>>23967504No you're not allowed to like green in this house.
>>23967517I like blue.
>>23967519That's very clearly purple
>>23967520You think the carpet matches the drapes?
>>23967493It's not that much shorter in japanese either
>>23967521Yes.
This and them not fucking with Final Dancougas animations is all I need and I'm happy.
Chirico and Kallen, friends across dimensions
>>23967504This is a Sheryl board.
>>23967500Remember how Phantom Arc was included and literally nothing was used? The plot was almost completely ignored, no units unique to it appear and even Wiseman's Overman baby is absent. The only thing that happens is a brief portrait of Chirico holding his gun to the pope's head. That's it.
>>23967517You got a problem with green?
>>23967537With them showing off more of these cross series team up attacks, my idea that one day we may see these two Green River characters do an "Akashic Buster Rifle" attack suddenly doesn't seem so far fetched.
>>23967542I hope they take the opportunity someday to resurrect some of the bullshit that happened in SRW tie-in manga before like Super Erupting Inazuma Kick God Finger or the Boss Borot + Walker Gallier combo
>>23967537Bring Shu back.
>>23967433Despite watching the stream with the english translation, I still think that ZIIRR is gonna be 'ported' over to Unity but the sprites and animations will be exactly the same, the only significant alteration will be some modern QoL features like resolution options and custom OST. And that's it, minimal stuff that just works, but if priced accordingly, that's fair enough.>>23967424I don't believe you, fucker always weasels it's way back in, there is no way it did something that bad to warrant such a ban.
It's always fun when this happens.
>>23967567It's a lot of work to do for sure, but it also gives them a slew of new assets they can recycle for years in future games.
https://xcancel.com/yasnos1173/status/2083550596888682655#m
>>23967568Modern SRW could never since they always leave the last digit as 0 so now the minimum is always 10.
>>23967521bitch definitely shaves
Bless this game.
>>23967567I don't think the old SD sprites will work with Unity and on modern display screens without looking like crap. Maybe they don't care, but they said it would be done in the Y engine and I don't think it and the Z2 sprites are compatible. If nothing else they'll have to 3D map everything
>>23967576Wait when did he start doing Saisei?
>>23967577Ultimately the sprites are just art assets, the proportions wouldn't really matter to the engine. I'll be surprised if they completely redo every unit though, I expect a lot will just be traced over even though they've been making things less SD over time.
>>23967506I wanted them together just to spite Mikage
>>23967496>>23967495It's like all the Final Mix KH stuff that finally got translated and differently than the original weeb players went with. Or in a more SRW comparison, like going from MNeidengard's translations to the official ones
>>23967580A couple threads ago there should be a link with the patch.
>>23967583Okay that is a valid reason.
>>23967454I think they'll want to reproportion them too so they don't look off compared to the other HD stuff because they started making the sprites significantly less super deformed looking started in Z3
>>23967571The mininum being 10 damage is ancient. Single digit hp enemies is still possible in modern games.
>>23967583What the fuck was his problem?
If you have no qualms, FUBing Brasta Es right away with carry over cash is probably the best thing you can do in Saisei.
>>23967581I mean SD as standard definition. The original PS2/PSP ones would look awful on a big HD monitor.
>>23967594FUBing shit is cheap in Saisei but I'm sticking to going to max 5 bars in everything.
>>23967589Well, we have the Methuss that is pretty much identical from Z1 to now, just higher resolution.
>>23967567Keep in mind that stuff they reuse from Z3 already looked different sprite and animation wise from how they originally were in Z2. And also that in general Z2 animations were alot more elaborate and superior in many cases because they weren't HD. And that as people have pointed out they're gonna have to redo them to some degree anyway because the originial PS2 era sprite work isn't compatible with modern HD hardware. With that in mind, they might have to reanimate all the new stuff if only to make it simpler to do in HD than before.
>>23967599Saisei has cheap upgrades because you deploy 34 units on the final map.
>>23967567He did get a global ban, his posts got deleted here and in /a/, but yeah he's back to ban evading now.
https://twitter.com/NERU90784678/status/2083944867437461585>Even the japanese are in the dark about thisThe wait is gonna be extra bad...>>23967612>checks ghostposting on the archiveOh, it mad, so it really happened.
MY WIFE EXIA WILL BE BACK FUCK YOU ALL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gpgMuHlIgAAlthough I doubt they'll surpass this peak animation especially having 5/7 dynamic kills
https://xcancel.com/sagatto_ru/status/2073647012340441579#m
>>23967619https://pawchive.pw/fanbox/user/1263210
I'm going to autistically overthink my custom BGM choices for the crossover attacks...
>>23967537Heero, Gridman, Masaki combo is a possibility now
>>23967625Only big BGM change I'm adding is giving Calibarn slash
>>23967619Next OP.
>>23967580when Hakai got confirmed the guy then used AI to do the other one
>>23967633I might give Calibarn birthmark on whatever her finisher is depending on what it is, Rebuild, Demi Trainer and Darilbalde all have Slash except for Rebuild's finisher which has the rebuild theme where she first fired the mega launcher
>>23967619Suddenly want my face in Marida's ass.
>>23967571Minimum scratch damage is 10, but minimum remaining HP is not. It's still possible to get enemies into single-digit remaining HP.Infact- there's usually an achievement for managing to do it.
>>23967613In a perfect world everything would get new assets but the Methuss and the Tristan Divider
>Z2 remaster>lived long enough to see Gundam 00 S1 in an officially released English SRW
Does anybody has a clue what the reception of 00 in West was? I always figured it was received well but didn't become as big as Wing or IBO
>>23967689I think the general reception was "eh".
>>23967689I just that know that unlike those two it didn't air on Toonami (Was Toonami even still around when 00 aired. I remember there being a brief period when Cartoon Network wasn't airing it.) Instead, it aired on the Sci Fi Channel.
>>23967694True for both it and Gurren Lagann, actually
>>23967694They killed Toonami outright around the time it would have probably aired in the west when the network was busy shooting itself in the foot with live-action slop.
>>23967697I remember that. Like they were trying to copy Nickelodeon and Disney Channel. It was considered a dark age until Adventure Time and Regular Show came along and everyone loved them.
>>23967424So that's why the discotek thread was deleted? Who would've thought that a schizo like that would be on discotek's payroll.
>>23967648Are you sure? In all my time of playing Y, the last digit in a damage output is always 0. In fact, the only time I've seen it not be 0 is when I casted Vigor and the healed unit ended up with a HP last digit of 5.
https://x.com/NERU90784678/status/2084273077408637094>"they're not remastering z1 because it's mean to kira"
>>23967723But SEED Freedom is also mean to Kira...
>>23967439>>23967446Yeah but don't come here crying when it turns out to be just HDZ2 with VXT qol
>>23967726why wouldn't be Y QOL?
>>23967727Because Y's custom bgm is worse and I imagine they won't keep it that way forever
>>23967734No BGM replace option so even if you replace Braiger and Ideon themes they still play the generic themes for events
>>23967740My gripe is the loss of volume controls per song ingame
>>23967742I had to use MP3gain to adjust all the tracks to 96db
>>23967745I was too lazy to bother honestly but it'd be nice to have
>>23967723This is actually rather common sentiment in Japanese tweets. Lots of people seem to think the actual reason they're skipping Z1 is due to the Destiny plot in Z1.
>>23967758It's possible, the writing was kind of mean spirited. You can tell it was written by someone who watched GSD in real time.
>>23967761So it's deserved criticism, is what you're saying
What series?
Z being mean to Kira for a few stages really doesn't mean much cause everyone ends up kissing and becoming friends after anyways
>>23967768WfM S2 and SRW Z2
>>23967758>>23967761Kira is very popular in Japan, so I can see why they would think that. Wasn't part of the reason why Shinn was disliked was him shitting on the OG cast?
>>23967769>for a few stagesThey basically shit on him for like 75% of the game and make Terminal comically stupid during the stage with the Extended
>>23967769Kirafags are a very sensitive and touchy bunch
>>23967774Shinnfags really should not be throwing stones in glass houses.>>23967723But the person who you're quoting says that Z1 got Kira better than most gundam fans since it touches on similar ideas to Freedom.
>>23967773>75%Kira only shows up on like 5 stages before ZEUTH vs ZEUTHHe's only on the team for real for like the last 15 stages though sure
I remember Suzumura saying he perfered Shinn's character in Z1 and became bros with Kamille's VA
>>23967781I'm not a fan of anyone from SEED nor Destiny thank you very much
>>23967783He shows up on PacificSetsuko's side universally hates him during midgame and Rand's side doesnt really want to do much with him either. Its just that they happened to be there.Then Terminal joins and no one really trusts Kira all that much either.
>>23967784Well, IIRC, the one positive he had about Destony is that's how he met his future wife.>>23967786I remember when they do eventually join but not before Koji, Tetsuya, and Eiji tell them to fuck off. Murrue and Lacus seem genuinely sad that they don't want their help, even when Quattro says they can help but he still doesn't trust them. Like the writer really had it out for them.
Maybe, just maybe, Z2 was chosen because only Z2 and Z3 have available source code.
I just remembered even if you do the secret to save Stella doesn't the game still play out as if she died, so Shinn will fight Kira, then she shows up later on. Though, DD did the same thing. The difference being in Z Banjo saved her but in DD it was Guy.
>>23967791I doubt it, it's not a 90s game.They pretty much said on the stream that Z2 was chosen for popularity and ease of licensing but the only thing that comes to mind from Z1 that's left out of Z2 is Grendizer and Toei Mazinger/Getter.
>>23967791>>23967793Z2 was the most popular game out of the viable choices and it was hard to get since it was a PSP title.That's basically it.
>>23967793What about E7? Can they refuse to license TV E7 again because of the director's spite?
So, what were your personal favorites of the Z2 debuts?
>>23967804Dai-Guard, no contest
>>23967793>>23967799Atlus lost P3 FES (2006) source code, Ubisoft lost AC1 (2007) source code. It's not a 90s problem. Very likely they lost source code and assets, since Z3 uses Z2 assets instead of Z1.
>>23967802I doubt one salty asshole at any level below an actual exec could stop a show from appearing.
>>23967804TTGL
>>23967804Dai-Guard my beloved
>>23967802Holland and Dewy's VAs are dead but they could just use archive audio
>>23967808And didn't Konami also lose the source code for some of the older Silent Hill games which was why that HD Collection from a decade ago was shit?
>>23967813I always forget that Eureka's voice actress also did Nunnally and Renton's is fucking Boruto and Sasha from Qwaser.
>>23967817>>23967808Why does it seem like Nintendo is the only Japanese developer that actually keeps old source code around?
>>23967825They keep source codes for games they don't even make since they apparently had the source code for seiken densetsu 3 while square enix lost it
>>23967817>>23967825>>23967829Japs used to just deleted the code after a game was done. They kind of stopped doing that after 2010, so ports between consoles could be made.
>>23967808>>23967817Square-enix also lost the source of some squarsoft era games. Among those FF8 or even Kingdom Hearts 1. They even had recreate the game with what they had at hand for remasters.
>>23967832FFT remake was made because no source code and the original devs realized the game might be lost to time
>>23967808The Best was released in 2011 and the PS2 Archives version came out in 2014
>>23967837In fact, Z2 was chosen because it was harder to get access to than Z1.
>>23967837>>23967837There is a difference between a finished game and its source code.
>>23967808>since Z3 uses Z2 assets instead of Z1.Why would Z3 use Z1 assets?The only Z2 assets they arguably used were Nova's, hence why it looks like shit. Everything else was redone.Besides, we just saw they've kept the ORIGINAL audio recordings for SRW4 and even the original Winkysoft-era damage formulas (on paper!) I genuinely don't believe they would be that careless.
>>23967804Shin Mazinger and Geass are legendary and eternal
>>23967769Yeah in literally the final stage
>>23967848Z3 lancelot was redone but completely traced, I expect Z2R to be like that
>>23967877For most of the Z2 characters maybe, they had to redo all of the Z1 units from the ground up in Z3.
No, they didn't lose Z1 source code, the source code is the Alpha one that was reused until 30. They probably lost assets like animation and sprites, and would have to redo Z1 from scratch.
>>2396780400 and Geass
>>23967884I don't think they "had to"The new animations for Z1 returnees are generally upgrades (except for DX and heat crusher)
>>23967884>>23967893I think it's because like people said the proportions were significantly less SD starting with the new debuts in Z2. Compare the 00 and Gundam Wing sprites there to the returning gundam sprites from Z1. So when Z3 came they completely redid them while Z2 stuff could just be traced.
>>23967903I think the only Z1 returnee that get completely overhauled was Nu Gundamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbG6i6w7wchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mola0_4UORE.
>>23967893Or in some cases Turn A and Orguss had entirely new choreography but if you look at the sprites from Z1 and their resolution, of course they had the harder transition to HD so they did needed new assets entirely.Some units like DX or the travesty that was Aquarion basically lost attacks because of this though.
>>23967909Nu overhaul was so good that they keep using the same sprites all the way up to X or T.
>>23967910Man I really wish they could pull the Z2 animations but with Z3 sprites, these look gorgeous
Z2 was also the first game to include full portraits for Gundams so the sprites likely became less super deformed
>>23967918I think the Turn A was great, the issue is that it lacked some of the cooler attacks like the Gundam Hammer.Orguss was also an improvement too.
>>23967918I think the DX looks like shit in Z3 personally but that could just be Stockholm syndrome.>>23967923Bring back the Missile Toss from A.G.
So, how many characters from Z1 got demoted to assist characters in Z2 I know Quattro has Apolly and Roberto, Loran has Sochie and Miashei, along with every Xabungle character except Jiron and Elchi. Then you have Athena who went from being playable in Hakai-Hen to an assist for Kei in Saisei-Hen.
>>23967934>I think the DX looks like shit in Z3 personally but that could just be Stockholm syndrome.The sprites were nice but the animation did took a hit for sure. I think it was done by the same guy that did the Seed units in Z3.
Anyone plan on playing the new BOOST mode? Thinking their intention was a playthrough of just investing very wide in robots or an upgrade them all completionist run
>>23967952Even the sprites look a bit worse. The darker panelling on the SD sprite gives it better definition.
>>23967910I prefer the SD proportions over the more proper ones
>>23967949They probably though Z2 was already too crowded without squads and only prioritized the main characters.But you can also tell they pulled that shit to make up the pad out the ZEUTH main characters movelist until Saisei-hen.
>>23967580>>23965782
>>23967949The guys from King Gainer from the Gauli Squad that aren't Sarah, technically also Adette since she became a subpilot for Sarah.
>>23967965It's also "standing" in space unlike turn a and orguss above.Z3 DX is just sloppy all around, even worse than the wing units who are just bland but not really bad technically
I just remembered in Z1 and Z2 Zambot has a rocket punch that it doesn't have in Z3 or V.
>>23965782Any chance you get to Z1 since it doesn't look like that's getting a remaster anytime soon?
>>23968029that's a whole different can of worms that I have not thought about that at all (I would have been more likely to try Z3 first, because of the more modern system)
>>23968055Are their reliable Ps3 emulators these days that don't require anything high end? I've never tried anything fancier than PSP emulation
>>23968070there's also the vita, although the emulation situation there may be even worse
>>23968055Yeah but I'd rather stick a cactus up my ass than suffer the disappointment of Z3 again. I guess at this point I'd be better off AI translating the damn thing myself.
>>23968070nta but RPCS3 is pretty stable nowadays, if you can run PCSX2 you probably can run the former in lower resolutions
>>23968029That already has a thorough LP
>>23968088I don't want to read a LP I want to play the thing myself.
>>23968092Grow up and stop being a fag, fag.
>>23968082jigoku is... fine
>>23968088my favorite is when people said z2 already had full LPs and the LPs just used MNeidengard as a guide
>>23968082For what it's worth Jigoku didn't commit any major crime, it's Tengoku the one who killed the dream.
>>23968110Jigoku is meh. It mostly runs on TTGL and the promise of the next game being epic something that failed spectacularly
>>23968110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es69AgzKXG4&t=2m45s
This is extreme cope, but I’m kind of hoping what we’ve seen of the new Dynazenon attack is bait and it’s actually a Kaiser Gridknight attack so we can also get Kaiser gridknight’s ultimate form/attack with the Twin Dynamic Cannon Spiral Fire
>>23968078Vita emulation is still pretty bad, but vita3k can emulate Z3 perfectly. Even at 1080p it's as smooth as Z2 on ppsspp. Of course there's no fast forward but the game has inbuilt fast forward anyway.
Jigoku fails just for that fucking horrible delay before every attack because of how stupidly it was coded. Tengoku could only fix it by removing the unit sliding onto the screen.
>>23968096>grow upIronic coming from a zoomer
>>23968122Ok I'll give you that, but even so I still used the FMP units up to V.
>>23968136I'm a milli thank you very much
>>23968123There's definitely more to that attack because why the blue guy specifically?>>23968130They probably never changed the squad code since fucking alpha 2, it did the same thing there
>>23968146And yet you'd rather watch someone else play something than actually do it yourself? Sounds gay.
>>23968148The blue soldier is from a novel I believe, it’s a lot stronger than regular Dynazenon and has combination attacks with wing, striker and then a final form with Kaiser Gridknight and a super move. I’m hoping we see all three of those but we’ll find out I guess But you can’t tell me pic related isn’t a perfect dynamic kill shot
>>23967504I like her. Sheryl is more suited for Alto, but me personally I'd rather have Rankacute
>>23968171
>>23968178SEXO
>>23967804Code Geass, TTGL and 00.
>>23968178Doing the Nu Gundam punch will feel so wrong now.
>>23967799>>23967799>Z2 was the most popular game out of the viable choicesYou can literally pick up sales data and compare it to any game from the main line titles of the PS2 era and see that their sales were way higher than Z2 and if you're going to use any polls one of them had MX and Alpha 2 and 3 higher than Z2. Stop with this retarded shit that Z2 was the most popular it wasn't. They literally explain it that it was only because of licensing and that's it. Its incredibly stupid especially since its only half a game getting remastered
>>23968192They're almost certainly gonna do the other half. They'd be stupid not to since at that point rather than half the game being done for them 80 percent of the game will be done for them.
This time can we not trade Tamaki for Tohdoh's mooks, I don't care about Ohgi but how could they cuck Zero's right hand like that?
>>23967723This explains why modern SRW writing is so fucking toothless nowadays
>>23967723>Z1 - Both sides realize they're just letting their own ideologies get the better of them >Z2- Everyone is just a terrorist fuck you
>>23967977Z3 basically did the same thing since Athrun and Luna get demoted to assists in that game, as well.
>>23968192>They literally explain it that it was only because of licensing and that's it.No, the official explanation in the stream was that it did best in their popularity survey, whatever it was, and that they could arrange licensing.That said, like I noted above, even some Japanese people don't seem to be taking the popularity explanation seriously (and not if Z2's licensing wasn't an issue, neither should be Z1's since basically all shows return from Z1 aside from the Toei series which shouldn't be an issue).
>>23968232>even some Japanese people don't seem to be taking the popularity explanation seriouslyAnother possibility is that they picked it factoring the popularity of certain series. To be fair shows like TTGL and TV Geass have been requested quite a lot since the international releases began. Z2 was just the easiest choice because the template is already there and they benefit of doing new HD assets for all those units in one go.
>>23968232>>23968241I was thinking also so they don't have to deal with the Tri-System since Z2 doesn't have that. Weren't some Japanese wondering why Alpha wasn't chosen instead? Though, as discussed before that game has more licensing problems.
>>23968255Alpha can't get shit because of SDF/DYRL.
I also think they want to train some of the new staff they hired with by redoing and already existing game, it happens a lot in the industry. >>23968255>Weren't some Japanese wondering why Alpha wasn't chosen instead? Though, as discussed before that game has more licensing problems.A lot of then aren't probably that aware of the Harmony Gold situation regarding Classic Macross. Don't know if the Giant Robot situation is that obscure though.
The 1.4.0 update is outSomeone with a better eye than me should check it, but the game seems to run "faster" (yeah I know it's weird to say since it runs on toasters) but I don't know how to explain it. Like the level up window appears faster than before and everything feels like it takes a few frames less
How did Z2 portray Kira anyone? I know ZEUTH does fuck all in Z2, but to fair all the games post-plot Destiny have Kira doing nothing important. It's mostly Shinn and Athrun that do shit and even Lacus got to fire Requiem or Messiah in UX.
>>23968260Alpha 2 is the only game in the Alpha series that can get a remaster since it's the only one without SDF.
>>23968265he's just a generic mcgoodguy gundam pilot there
>>23968282So, like he always is.
>>23967910I've gotten so used to the current style I forgot how chonky older sprites were.
>>23968262Part of the general stability updates they said were going out, I imagine.
>>23968192>Stop with this retarded shit that Z2 was the most popular it wasn't.Oh shut the fuck up retard. That was literally the explanation they gave on stream.
>>23968288I feel like it fits for Z2 because of how small the PSP screen is.
>>23968296>That was literally the explanation they gave on stream.
>>23968282>>23968296>That was literally the explanation they gave on stream.Did anyone actually save the stream to confirm this?
Now that I think about it, isn't Gurren Lagann pretty small compared to other robots that aren't a KMF or Scopedog?
>>23968303See >>23968232
>>23968296Yeah people never lie or just say shit
>>23968296>Z2 more popular than Z1, Alpha series and MX
>>23968308Where's the stream that actually confirms this
>>23968298They actually slightly fixed the sprite for Z2, the heads were bigger in Z1
>>23968312I never noticed that.
>>23968305About 5 meters, apparently
>>23968305The components are pretty small but they grow taller because muh spiral power.
>>23968305https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbeVosPszo5 meters apparently and yet SRW puts it in the L sized scale.
>>23968311Go back in time to yesterday's stream before they took it down thanks to Jam Project's medley. Maybe you can go beg on reddit or whatever and someone might indulge you then. However, Z2 did the best based on whatever arbitary metrics they chose and you'll just have to suck it up along with everyone else.
Okay so new update is out and I'm getting a black screen after loading any of the save files. Did they really mess up my 70+ hour playthrough? Will they even care if a non japanese person complains?
>>23968325Well, no, try to backup your save and reinstall the game
>>23968232The most likely answer is as said, Z2 heavily features a bunch of shows that were well recieved in the west, while Z1 is mostly headlined by lesser Gundam shows, older Showa stuff like Baldios Orguss and Godsigma and Seed Destiny, which is controversial in the west. And Z2 has all of them anyway, just in a smaller role so if Z2 does well they can do Z1 as well as a "and this is where all those characters came from" and most of the work is already done for them
>>23968260That's not helping either but Alpha can't get shit because of Giant Robo which even in Japan they can't use anymore. I think they also said Alpha 1 specifically had a metric fuck ton of units even by older SRW standards and the only way they could do it was if the animation took a drastic downgrade
>>23968265Z2.1 mostly a supporting role. He does get to do some computer stuff which other SRWs tend to forget. 2.2 he hangs around guarding Lady Une for a while until noticing she's weird, then rejoins the party by the time the Wing Zero incident happens, IIRC.
>>23968265Kira gets more focus than Shinn in Z2 and he and Athrun get a combo in Z2 they didn't have in Z1 but that's about it. He's also the only Seed character to get new dialogue since Hoshi was playing other characters in it.
>>23964643GRAVIONBROS WE EATING GOOD
>>23968424Super HeavySet
>>23968337Yeah that worked. Pretty scary stuff.
>>23968359>He's also the only Seed character to get new dialogue since Hoshi was playing other characters in it.Speaking about voice lines, makes me wonder if they would go back and add some of the new ones. Like pretty sure Shinn got a lot in Z3.
The only Z2 series I haven't watched are Daitarn, Trider, Zambot, Baldios, Godmars, God Sigma and Orguss, are any of them plot heavy in the game?
>>23968458Trider and Godmars are, the others are just plotless units from Z1.
>>23968458Godmars is one of the highlights of Z2 so get on that. Trider doesn't get his enemies but is mixed in the plot of Daiguard so some story beats happen. Everything else mentioned is post-plot aside from Daitarn who gets fucked as usual. Orguss is weird because it is important for the Z games but doesn't get anything in Z2.
Love Baldios theme in Z2https://youtu.be/hb2nHYvKP7w?list=RDhb2nHYvKP7w
Is custom bgm confirmed for the remaster? Seems like a no brainer obviously it's in thing, but they can always pull out the japanese "the original didn't have it so we omitted the feature to remain faithful" autism
>>23968496Not yet, only the fact is being done in the Y engine and will most likely have similar UI. I hope we get custom bgm or at least more music. I don't want to be stuck with Vestige as the only Seed Destiny theme...
>>23968496Why not, it's harmless and easy to implement. It would be like AP not having animation skip because the original doesn't have it.
>>23968437yeah, steam can randomly fuck up like that, it happens
>>23968496It won't be in, just so you can't escape Heatshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23NRARoRkQ
>>23968351Like 25+ playable units in Alpha are just combiner parts/pilders/get machines/core fighters but there's still probably like 80 units without those counted. Its still a lot but a chunk wouldn't need a ton of effort. Valkyries are mostly copy-paste too if Macross somehow wasn't a problem.
>>23968298I miss the wideness
>>23967835I just don't get how companies don't have data archives for shit like that.
Guys, I'm actually happy that the next game is a Z2 remaster, for one simple reason. SRW Z2, even though it was a portable game, still had a lot of things that were cut from Modern SRWs.Macross units have two playable forms, Gundam Wing and Z can still transform, Daitarn has three forms. Smooth consistent animations, Furthermore, Z2 still has different animations depending on whether the enemy is in the air or on the ground (something I can understand not wanting to do anymore for the new games, but they have to put it in Z2).In short, after the Z2 remaster, good luck to the team that will have to make the new main game, because that one is damn good graphically and they'll have to work a little harder after that.
>>23968592Data archives weren't a thing in the 90s and most products were considered totally disposible. They had their time in the limelight then they got replaced by the next thing. The idea of remasters and rereleases and IP's remaining relevant for decades wasn't really considered a thing back then.
>>23968601>Furthermore, Z2 still has different animations depending on whether the enemy is in the air or on the ground (something I can understand not wanting to do anymore for the new games, but they have to put it in Z2).I wouldn't expect that feature back in the remaster. They even said during Z1 it was such a pain that they weren't gonna do it again except for Z2 because many of the assets were reused. And even then Z2's terrain differences were minimal compared to the ones from Z1.
>>23968601I don't expect the Z2 remastered to just be Z2 sprites redone in the style of Z3, with the same choreography from those games. We'll probably get Y style sprites and I don't expect any choreography that looks as good as Z2.
>>23968612Dai-Guard had some pretty substantial ones. Like Akagi going ROCKETO PANCH when using Drill Arm on flying enemies.
Is there any point in playing the remaster if it's worse than the original? I've already seen enough talking points from here and Japanese twitter being up how this is nearly impossible for modern banpresto.
>>23968624I mean, all we can do is speculate until we actually see some footage. Save the doomposting for after it turns out to be shit.
>>23968612>>23968614My bet is that it will be the exact same game as Z2, but with OG SRW upscaling. So, yes, exactly the same animations as Z2 with the addition of 3D maps and large portraits.
>>23968592There is a patch of ground in Japan that has like a gorillion monster costumes rotting within it. Japs just don't care.
>>23968601>Z2 still has different animations depending on whether the enemy is in the air or on the groundbut meanwhile my votoms are skating on clouds
>>23968626Nah, I'll doompost in the hopes I'm proven wrong. But my doomposting for Z2, Z3, 30 and Y was proven right, so I'll probably be right once again and I'll hate myself.
>>23968628They cant just upscale the PSP era sprites without redrawing them. They'd look too pixelated and underdetailed. Hell play regular Z2 PSP emulated on a big HD monitor and the sprites look shitty. It'd be like that.
>>23968642based V hopeposter
>>23968624A month ago it would have been the only way to play it in English but given someone patched it.....
>>23968629Again they saw that stuff as super disposable, the second a tokusatsu was finished everyone would immediately pivot to the next show and forget all about the original. It's why for decades Sentai and Rider stuff would be immediately trashed with the sole exception of protagonist stuff and that's only because they'd display them occasionally. It wasn't until the last 20 or so years that Toei started keeping stuff and building them to last long term because they started having characters return and because they found out they could kitbash old suits and save money
>>23968644>and the sprites look shittyI would be 100% okay with a completely barebones re-release of any of the PS2 games but I'm also fine waiting and seeing how Z2 goes. Especially if it turns out TOSE is the dev behind it.
>>23968644>They cant just upscale the PSP era sprites without redrawing them. They'd look too pixelated and underdetailed.I literally wrote "OG SRW upscaling" and you're comparing it to amateurish stuff. Before we do Doomposting, let's see exactly how they're upscaling.Look at the SRW OG animations. I don't know if it's Tose's work, but they often do remasters and they know how to upscale. It would make sense if they were the ones doing this remaster.
>>23968644>They'd look too pixelated and underdetailedB..but I like pixels.
>motion tweening godmars
>>23968674That's one set of animations they could just use as is.
>>23968657If you mean OGS to OGS2 and MD that wasn't an upscale they straight up redid the sprites and animation but choose to make them identical for some reason. But you can see from the different shades and details on the HD sprites that it's not just a simple upscale.
>>23968674The only reason to change anything with Z3 Godmars in any future game would be to make up a combo attack
>>23968683And unless they remaster D that's not happening
>>23968679that's upscaling and then hand-correcting. If you think they redesigned everything from scratch for 2nd OG, then you're wrong. That's exactly why they have the same animations.
>>23968685Super Brick Special combo with Gold Lightan when it debuts in SRW40
taking frames from godmars and giving them to nu's fin funnels
>>23967804https://youtu.be/5n8OjOoeOOk?is=PO0zsnVJXbomrOjJ
If they do a remaster per year then maybe the Diebuster guy will get his wish in 2030
>>23968693Hakai and Saisei will probably be pretty close to back to back but if they're actually putting a second team on SRW again let them do a new game too
Please tell me they are also working on a new game.
BUY MERCH
>>23968691It's unlikely they'll add anything new in the Z2 remaster but it would be a good opportunity to do something like what they're doing for Y and give some people new team up attacks. In this case Heero and Setsuna could get one. The name of the attack would obviously be:"We are Gundam!"
>>23968721Best they could do is give us access to things that are already in the game like the Epyon. But I really ain't expecting anything that fancy from this.
>>23968697Yes it's pretty obvious.
about 12 hours to go until the DLC drops
Did the update fix the thing with the MJP units where their HP and EN dipped a tiny bit at the start of a map?
>>23968723I still can't believe they didn't let us keep Zechs and Epyon
>>23968765Yeah, that's fixed.
>>23968760sorry if I'm a shitty slowpoke, but is the new DLC free or paid?
>>23968723 I wish they'd give us Lady Une with the Wing Gundam (which is really cool in SRW Z2.1), playable Epyon, and Exia Repair II. These are all things they could give us without too much trouble since they have the resources ready.
>>23968723>>23968794what about the gundam aquarius, would be cool as a secret, not sure who'd be the pilot
why did you guys pretend they never upscaled sprites before
>>23968798Yeah they did upscaling for a lot of the Z2 cast, some ended up looking better like Godmars or Tetsujin but then you have Dancouga Nova looking kind of shitty. But they pretty much redid a lot of the Z1 veterans instead of upscaling then so they may end up going in that direction for some. >>23967910
>>23968795That would be cool, but I didn't consider it because it's from G Generation, and they'd have to design it from scratch. They have epyon and the rest ready. Lady Une was recasted specifically for Crossrays, so they also have a voice actress. Oh, I was forgetting Hilde. She and her Leo would be cool too.I think she was even playable in Z3.
>>23968792>Purchase Bonusoh, never mind. Better question, what are the other 4 units? One is Calibarn.【Content】・New Area Missions: 33・New Weapons: 12・New Playable Units: 5・New Assist Crew Member: 1・Bonus Mission "Anniversary Expansion
>>23968819Li Brasta T and the white Gekkoei Sui from Lost Colors. The remaining two are still unknown.
>>23968824>ColorsStories.
>>23968824Probably the black female knight and the king, forgot their name
>>23968830I'd prefer two units we never seen before, although what you say makes sense, because if it were something new, they would have shown it.
>>23968830>the black female knightThat would be super lazy, but I would be super okay with it.
>>23968830>>23968840I think one of them is going to be a supporter to be honest.
>>23968842>>23968830I'm okay with this
>>23968843The mysterious supporter is probably traia or esther
Tarak beggars will finally get their crumbs.
>>23968850I don't think they'd hold tarak this long and even gave us noir first. It's just not getting in
>>23968856Yeah, I think they just gave us that many new combinations for Arc to make up for Tarak.
>>23968830I don't think they'd be joining due to the whole set up of the game where all units live in the A.Advent.
>>23968846Playable Sistis is a good choice, since she became playable earlier in DD of all things before Y.
>>23968830But wasn't the King dead? I don't remember.
>>23968916This last DLC is set into an alternate ending route so all the villains are still alive at the start (think the start of chapter 7)It's why Messer appears and is alive in this dlc
Game crashed after Domon heat ended a dude. Game never crashed once before in my 100 hours playing this. This new update doesn't seem that stable.
>>23968345>Z2 heavily features a bunch of shows that were well recieved in the westWhen will people stop spouting this retarded shit? Nobody gives a fuck about Votoms, Macross Frontier, 00 and Geass in the West. Jesus Christ.
It will never happen but man I would kill to have Avalanche exia and other 00 MSV in the Z2 remaster.
>>23968940>Nobody gives a fuck 00 and Geass in the WestBest bullshit of the day, good job, anon.
>>23968948Where's your proof that 00 and Geass were popular in the US? Btw I know you'll full of shit given the time period those show were released in and the fact that Bandai Entertainment is dead
>>23968952Which corner of reddit did you drag this out of faggot?
>>23968952The fact that the GSD rewrite is still being discussed to this day whereas nothing from Z2 gers brought up to that extent only makes the claim that "Z2 was more popular" more dubious and before you bring up that fucking poll that also means that UX is norw popular than Z2 which I don't mind cause that's a way better game
>>23968959Probably because they were popular in the fansubbing scene. But so was SEED and that obviously didn't translate into real popularity. So, yeah.
>>23968991>But so was SEED and that obviously didn't translate into real popularity.It did.In Canada.
>>23968952>Facebook MemeHuh?
I enjoy this mission a lot, makes me wonder if they could have pulled what Y did would they do Blade/GGG or Blade/Orgun for a crossover combo.
>>23968697yes and you will regret to have asked for it
Exia, my beloved.
>>23968871The story set us back to the beginning of chapter 7 right before the showdown with raval. I don't think we're just going to beat them again so they'll probably join us.
>>23969040>AIwell, aside from that, Gremlin + Judau is a good combo.
>>23968601>Macross units have two playable formsWell for Delta you'd pretty much never use the other forms because they don't do shit in them
>>23969076Can Garrod come back to hang out with them too?
>>23969075>>23968830>>23968842Why do retards always want the most boring thing. You ever thought it might be an OG upgrade since that's something they would want to keep secret and not thay boring shit.
>>23969085A wise man once told me this valuable life lesson: Expect the worst, hope for the best.
They could probably keep Elan and Keith alive and they wouldn't even count as new playable characters for the dlc
>>23969085Because this isn't UX where half the secrets are shit no other SRW would ever let you have, this is a modern SRW and modern SRWs are safe and boring when it comes to secrets.
>Garrod, Judau, and Machu being troublemakers with Ange>Loran, Suletta, and (Freedom) Kira trying to keep them from causing too much trouble
>>23969093Have you actually looked at UX's secret list? The vast majority of those secrets are givens. Only Lu Bu + Diaochan and Master T are out there.
>pre-ordered the game>got the all bells and whistles version>bought the expansion dlc>going to get the anniversary dlcI can't even remember the last time I paypigged this hard for a game.
>>23969093What secret did you want that's so out there for Y?>>23969098Lu Bu Tallgeese for the SD stuff makes sense, he doesn't share the same fate as actual three kingdoms Tallgeese iirc
>>23969108>ctual three kingdoms Tallgeesechrist I'm tired, but actual three kingdoms lu bu dies but Tallgeese Lu Bu lives and in the manga he even helps
>>23969085Why would the OG get another upgrade?
>>23969085Nigger I'm just keeping the expectations realistic
>>23969112Why not? They didn't even show off a nl attack for the OG so it makes sense thier getting something new
>>23969115Or maybe they're just not getting anything
>>23969110A Three Kingdoms Tallgeese would be made out of jade
>>23969116Or maybe they are
>>23969093Uhhhh not really, Z3 gave you patrick, graham, and brera for free.Villains also join all the time in many games even in Y. 1/3 of UX secrets are just the fafner cast.
>>23969120Don't come here crying tomorrow when the dlc doesn't have things they never promised
>>239691241) I wouldn't be crying2) pointing out you retards wanting the shittest opinion isn't me expecting anything3) it's in 6 hours retard.
https://x.com/NERU90784678/status/2084485728470233514>On Nip twitter people are calling out larpers for using out of context screenshots from "2chan" >not knowing that thus screenshots are from the game itself They really should have just remastered Z1 which its generating this level of shitflinging from SEEDfags
>>23969075>The story set us back to the beginning of chapter 7 right before the showdown with raval. I don't think we're just going to beat them again so they'll probably join us.This doesn't change that the emperor and knight living in the A.Advent would be ridiculous. Note how Seivas deliberately never rejoined Ra Val because he's staying as a party member.
>>23969112Because it gets blown up in the trailer right alongside all other mecha that do get replacements or new attacks?
Feels weird they didn't already reveal it, didn't all the other DLCs be straightforward with what were joining?
>>23969100Me too. Watch it not even matter down the line and some change in direction cancel all oversea releases.The japanese are dumbfounded at the amount of money they want you to drop in this game too. Nearly 30000 yen
Was Z2 always this hated or are people just that upset that Z1 or some other game wasn't chosen?
>>23969121And that's a good thing
>>23969095Glad that isn't gonna happen
>>23969130>SEEDfags are having a legit fucking melty over Kira being criticized How things have changed. Ironically when the first PV for Z1 dropped people were cheering when Shinn shot down Kira in the first PV.https://youtu.be/G6wYYjjMDV8?t=134
>>23969141The latter, mostly.
>>23969141No? Its just a weird decision is all. I think everyone would gladly take the Alpha games over it.
>>23969141Nah, they'd bitch about literally anything that isn't their favorite getting a remaster.
>>23969150It's just the way people are reacting you would think something like Shin or OE was chosen. Actually, maybe those two would have benefited if they fixed some things like Shin not letting you skip animations.
>>23969141People are allowed to be critical you know
>>23969141The latter because I dont think people care that much about Z2 overall to begin with. While it did introduce some good features to the franchise (Ace system, full scale sprites, faster animation transitions, Arios-san, Command prompts etc.) It also marked the turned where the franchise had it's absolute worse period of releases and it stretched itself thin of reusing the same assets over and over and over again that by the time Z3.2 came it exhausted all good will it had with it.
>>23969152>they'd bitch about literally anything that isn't their favorite getting a remaster.People would have been happy if it were the Alpha trilogy or Z1 dont lid yourself.
>>23969156I'm against things like remasters in the first place on principal, so what game it is doesn't really matter that much
>>23969160So, Z2's main saving grace is the debut of Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Gundam 00. Since none of them were in Z1. And even that people question their popularity. I'm still convinced the lack of any squad system is also why it was chosen since they'd probably have to rebuild it from scratch rather than just port it over even if Z1 was chosen.
>>23969141The latter. I think zoomers or other newfags really get how popular many if the debuts were. I've seen people have been hoping for Z2 translations for over a decade.Alpha series is popular too, no one can say it isn't. Its just a licensing nightmare.
>>23969156People are mostly positive its just theres some skepticism because its only one half of a two part game getting remastered rather than two games in one and also the nature of inputting the Y system into it means theyre going to redo the spirites or upscale them either way it just feels like more work for whats just a PSP game.
>>23969141I'm mildly annoyed Z1 got skipped but happy that another game I haven't played in the series is getting an official English release. I like a lot of stuff on the series list so I'm sure it will be fun
>>23969167I feel like terms like remaster, remake, revival, and reboot have become interchangeable these days. Since that's how they get thrown around now.
>>23969113>>23969085To be fair most of the DLC's haven't been things we expected. Wasting two DLC slots on those two wouldn't make sense and if it's an OG upgrade or something story dependent they actually wouldn't show that off in the trailer.
>>23969181Will feel kinda weird to have an OG upgrade that's locked to only a few last stages of an epilogue though.Guess you could say that about the whole expansion though given we're getting 12 attacks and 5 units that can only be used in this alternate chapter 7.
I wonder who's actually going to get new animations in the remaster. Maybe transforming units so they can get rid of transformations like in Y. New Methuss never ever, the current animations are now load-bearing code
>>23969186It's 33 missions I would assume you will be able to unlock it pretty early. TO be fair most final upgrades in SRW usually are given like 15-12 missions before the end
Now I'm curious how OG fans feel about not getting a remaster. Though, from what I've heard OG wasn't always as successful as the main series.>>23969189I assume at the very least all the stuff that wasn't in Z3 like GodSigma, Baldios, and Gravion.
I wanna the last assist to be Esther/Traia solely for HD full bust triangle
>>23969168>And even that people question their popularityRetards, not people
>>23969189>I wonder who's actually going to get new animations in the remaster.I expect Z1 veterans mostly going by the dimension of some of their sprites, the Z2 cast can be easily upscaled like they did with Z3.
>>23969168>So, Z2's main saving grace is the debut of Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Gundam 00.Also the return of Wing TV and (at the time) Getter Robo Armageddon. Its a good cast add on top that some of these entries never got a redo and were essentially trapped in "post plot" hell in the new games.>I'm still convinced the lack of any squad system is also why it was chosen since they'd probably have to rebuild it from scratch rather than just port it over even if Z1 was chosen.Basically the fact that the SPECIFICALLY stated that they were going to implement it into the Y engine gave it away.
>>23969130>>23969146Are you stupid?
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>>23969179>remaster,same game but upscaled with no real changers >remakesame game but updated with many changes to areas and the story>revivalYeah, basically just remake >rebootalternate retailing of a series with many changes making it it's own game I think problem is people he are conflating remake and reboot. Z2 is just getting the A Portable treatment, no new secrets just the same game we had before with possible DLC that is most likely just new stages since the roster is already huge as fuck to keep adding on top of it
I cant believe we're getting Getter 1 back even if its just a remake>I'm still convinced the lack of any squad system is also why it was chosen since they'd probably have to rebuild it from scratch rather than just port it over even if Z1 was chosen.Which honestly fucking sucks. Z2 could use even a pair system like Z3
So uh.....what the fuck are they going to do about this if the estate are still being cunts? They pretty much said licensing was the main reason Hakai-Hen was chosen and that license for Tetsujin 1980 has bound to lapsed because it hasn't been in another SRW since Z3.
>>23969168>And even that people question their popularity.People are insinuating that the cast is what made the game so popular which is retarded. Hell TTGL, Wing and Geass were in X and nobody gives a shit about that game
>>23969206SEEDfag...
>>23969227I don't remember 80's Tetsujin having any right issues, they most likely had to update or renegotiate some series before green lighting the remaster.
>>23969239>Wing*Endless Waltz>Geass*post-plot>TTGLYeah and it was the best part
>>23969248>Endless WaltzIs more popular than Wing TV hence why its in everything. Stop coping.>post-plotIrrelevant >Yeah and it was the best partAnd still couldn't carry the game
>>23969257So baffled by how retarded this post is that I'm convinced I've been rused. You got me, I'm trolled
>>23969257No having TV series plot is important (despite all the times we've shown that isn't the case)
>>23968798That's not an upscale, that's a case of the final result not being downscaled to PSP resolution.It's very clear from the aliasing on the bottom version that that version was compressed from a higher resolution source.
>>23968830If they count Sistis being playable as a new playable unit, then they'd probably be cheap enough to count the not-dead Messer as one as well.
>>23968935Oh great. So we treat a minor HP bug with the MJP units being fixed for crashes now.Fucking Hell, Red-5 bug just keeps giving and giving doesn't it? Series is cursed. CURSED!
>>23969337what HP bug?
>>23969363Patch 1.30 that came with the Expansion Pack release had a bug where the MJP units would some times lose health the turn they're deployed on the map. Nobody ever found the exact trigger for it. Sometimes it just did it, and sometimes it did not.
>>23969150There's at least two reasons Alpha cannot happen even without counting the number of units and maps they'd have to make from scratch
>DLC is out, yet some niggas need to keep seething over irrelevant shit >starts fearmongering over the idea of GQX in Z2 remaster I swear some of you genuinely do need to go back to plebbit
