Isn't this scene from F91 fucking exaggerated?There is no way a cannon shell case would kill someone by just falling into their heads.It is empty, it is just a thin case made of brass, it is not very heavy.
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>>23969157At a fast velocity like that? Well yeah that would be fatal.
>thin case It has to withstand a larger amount of gunpowder so it's thicker. And it fell like 100 ft.
>>23969157I would argue that due to the unique composition of materials used in the construction of ammunition in the UC, you are a fag and should be hanged
This a stupid ass questiton but also a very memorable scene for me, it's almost comical how the kids crowd around her and mourn her, not even checking to see if she was still alive, because they know for an absolute FACT that anyone would be 100% dead after that gigantic shell case clonked them over the head
>>23969171the shell is empty, thus it is not a solid piece of metal. Thus it bounces and has flexibility like a spring.
>>23969203So if I threw a soda can or a garbage at your head, it wouldn't hurt at all because it's empty (like your head) and bounces off of your headRetard
Gundam is realistic when it comes to women
>>23969254I know right?
>>23969157yeah bro if a block of metal fell from several meters in the air directly onto my head it wouldnt crack my skull or give me fatal brain damage at all, how unrealistic
We had this thread already didn't we?
>>23969320We always have this thread. I'm waiting for the Gundam X ones to start up again.
>>23969549Are we approaching the "X is vastly overrated" or "X is vastly underrated" part of the cycle?
>>23969610I feel like the real test would be someone using the HGAW Leopard to argue that it's a good design.
>>23969166Mobile Suits are not 30+ meters tall in F91, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I wouldn't be surprised if a thin paint can falling from that height could kill someone>>23969549I'm waiting for the next rotation of treacherous woman threads, the Reccoa ones are my favourites
>>23969157cool, a pseudointellectual thread
>>23969787I want a thread about Kyao being treacherous and how he likes men.
>>23969164coast to coast?
>>23969157Drop a paint tin on your head from 50 feet and find outMake sure hits in the back, not the front
>>23970066It will kill if it is full of liquid.If it is empty, then it won't do much.
>>23969157This thread is stupid. We don't even know if she was dead. We know she was not conscious, and people around her thought she was dead, and booking it away from the danger.
>>23969157It doesn't take much to die if your head gets hit. You can die just from falling and hitting your head.
>>23970685Hell, people have gotten catastrophic strokes from standing up and hitting their head on an open cabinet door.
>>23969157I hate how unrealistic 0080 is. just look at the small bullet holes damage with the Kampfer cockpit. the Alex shot it with 90mm cannons, it would do more damage than this. a.50bmg is already enough to rip a person in half, 90mm would leave bigger bullet holes than this. and the pic on the right is your average 90mm bullet.
>>23969157>>23970866and for reference, the bullet on the left is a .22 and the bullet on the right is a .50, which will blow a person in half
>>23970867There is a reason he was hamburger. Nothing left that even looked human, just a pile of meat.
>>23970866That's probably from shrapnel rather than intact bullets.
>>23970866Its from spalling inside the cockpit. retard.
>>23969157Go ahead and empty a fire extinguisher and slam it into your head. It would hurt so imagine dropping that off a three-story building. Definitely fracture something.
>>23969157The casing of a 5-inch Navy gun round weighs like 15 pounds. It absolutely would kill you if it fell on your head from 15 meters.Nowadays they use steel casings, making them significantly heavier than their brass equivalent.
>>23970918Nah. Bernie gets flash fried like a cocktail weiner being cooked with a soldering iron.
>>23969157Astinoge's gf made this post.Rest in peace you blessed soul.
>>23971556Except this is a machine gun round. It can't be that big or heavy.
>>23970918>>23971651Do you think Chris ever found out?
>>23969157Back when I lived in Queens (This would have been 90-96) a cop got killed when someone dropped a metal bucket on his head from the top of a brownstone. I forget if the bucketman ever got caught.
>>23971681>this 130mm shell casing can't possibly be relatable to this other 130mm shell casingpost a size comparison whydon'tcha
>>23972352Caliber is definitely not enough to say they're comparable. The .50 AE round in a deagle brand deagle is tiny compared to a .50 BMG. A 130mm anything is still going to be enough to kill someone, because it's really not that hard to do.
>>23969157When it comes to head and neck injuries it's surprisingly easy to die. The human body is weird. Some people can get blown up or shot full of holes and still keep going, and some people can get dinked in exactly the wrong way and get an instant ticket to the shadow realm. That lady had the equivalent of a large fire extinguisher yeeted out of a gun breach straight to the back of her skull, like a pipe to the back of a rabbit's head. For sure that can insta-gib someone, easy.
>>23969165It should've snap her neck at the very least, let alone crush her skull. This is a sanitized depiction of such scenario.
>>23969203It's 100x larger that your standard bullet casting, it should be heavy enough to at least cause some serious head trauma.
>>23970918>>23971651Did you guys even read 0080? Bernie miraculously survives and gets rescued by the Federation troops before being sent to a hospital.
Gundam's a good reminder of how fragile human life can be.
>>23969157This is more like a 1 gallon paint can sized.>>23971556>>239723525inch naval gun seems to be a lot bigger
>>23972084Yes and it was delicious!
>>23977615 can you just get replica shells from a shop somewhere
>>23970866I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be .90 calibre, not 90mm. The people who write the technical specifications keep getting them mixed up.
>>23970685Don't coconuts kill a lot of people? Wouldn't the shell casing from F91 be like that?
>>23977467Before or after the rape? Feddies(Chris) just can't help themselves.
>>23969157Tomino says everytime that Gundam isn't realistic, why do you guys keep insisting on it?
>>23982041Are the mechs even possible to make and operate? The newtype powers at least in 0079 are possible if human beings trained hard enough. Heightened mental awareness. Reacting to things faster. Future prediction maybe. Telepathy. Talking to souls maybe. Meditation, astral projection, lucid dreaming, remote viewing and whatever psy related shit suggests that the stuff I listed above can be possible. It gets more ridiculous later on starting with Zeta but 0079 in my opinion is realistic in that department.
>>23982092Forgot to add in Gateway Tapes.
>>23969222Ghost Jenny, shouldn't you be busy at Kroger or did you get fired
>>23969157wouldnt the automatic cannon from a cool future robot have disintegrating propellant cases like the ones in tank guns or something?
>>23969549Time is a flat circle after all. I'm personally waiting for the toku is/isn't /m/ debate to be back in vogue
>>23982144which tank guns nowadays even do that?
>>23982144Caseless ammo is a massive meme that is way more trouble than it's worth.
>>23981860>Before or after the rape?both
>>23969203So what? The mass of the shell itself just doesn't count? Retard.
>>23988728Anon's head is empty yet his vote counts for just as much as yours. See how this works?
>>23988728>>23989827Fuck off negrobumper.
>>23989853Take your meds.
>>23983716>>23983807For the 120mm rounds used by NATO a 2 to 3 pound metal igniter plate is all that is left after firing.
>this specific scene in a giant robot cartoon is unrealistic
>>23969157You have absolutely no understanding of how fragile the human anatomy really is, especially that of a woman's.
>>23969157UC takes place at least a couple of hundred of years from now, most likely much longer. Who's to say that cannon shells don't get heavier by the 25th century or whenever it is.
>>23969157>>23969203It's the kinetic energy equivalent of a 9mm round.>The F-71 G-Cannon's rotary machine cannons are 130mm caliber, mounted at a height of about 46 feet (16 m) from the ground. >The empty HE brass shell fired by a contemporary 120mm tank gun has a weight of about 9 lb (4 kg).>In tests for helmet safety by the Snell Foundation, an impact of just 150 joules is considered "extremely high-energy".
A solid metal shell forcefully ejected from a cannon will either kill you or cause severe harm.If you want something ridiculous, look at this bullshit.The beam saber is powerful enough to instantly melt through layers of armored metal side to side, yet Raww is completely unharmed. The residual heat alone would be enough to vaporize him.
>>23969166>And it fell like 100 ft.It doesn't take that long for something to reach terminal velocity, you dumb shit.
>>23983685>toku is/isn't /m/Correct.
>>23999048>>23969157Except the case in F91 is very short.A modern tank case is fucking huge, more than 4 times the length.Thus it holds a lot more propelant,Thus it needs thicker walls too due to the bigger explosion.
>>23999680Well now it's just going through her thigh, I'm pretty sure that would kill her
>>23999684Nah, legs are just for show.
>>23999734Then once we start mass-producing women, Wufei is finished!
>>23999680This has always bothered me more than anything else about this scene. The casing looks like a stubby little pistol cartridge meant for a short fat projectile, but sized up in all dimensions. Making it even just twice as long would fix the proportions, and you could chalk it up to being some kind of big telescoping case ammunition.
>>23999680>A modern tank case is fucking huge, more than 4 times the length.>>23999835>The casing looks like a stubby little pistol cartridge meant for a short fat projectile, but sized up in all dimensions.It is very large, but it's made of combustible materials like cellulose. The only thing left after firing is the stubby metal aft cap and primer plate, which weigh about 3.6 kg for the oldest German APFSDS round.https://germanarmor.blogspot.com/2020/04/german-120mm-tank-ammunition.htmlThis means that the numbers in >>23999048 (calculating the kinetic energy of a falling object) still roughly apply. Also to note that the only acceleration there is gravity, while any gun forcefully ejects spent rounds, giving it more energy.>Thus it needs thicker walls too due to the bigger explosion.That's what the barrel is for, dumbass.
>>23969157post the full "le war is tragic" clip
>>24000321Gundam fags btfo!
>>24000388>llm-generated foecal matterGo away.
>giving giant robots huge scaled up gas-recoil infantry rifles complete with huge ironsights and magazines instead of electric operated autocannons or rotary cannons belt fed from an ammo drum and redundant gun-mounted optical targeting systems"because it looks cool" is legitimate of course but it is objectively silly.
>>24000410>and redundant gun-mounted optical targeting systemstbf gundam always had these. Even accounting for its age and purpose, the original series had the guns using their own cameras, even when they "sighted" them by shouldering the gun.Ironically I think the only one that used iron sights at the time was 08th.
>>24000410You also have alternatives to shells like case-telescopic ammunition, fully caseless, liquid propellants or even electrical ignition. Anything but a giant AK-47, guys.
>>24000466Giant Valmet it is.
>>2400045608th MS Team shows a mixture of targetting systems. There's this pretty iconic shot where we can see the mobile suit keeping essentially a sight picture along the top of the machine gun as it rises from kneeling, for the massive multi-part cannon we see it relies entirely on the suit for targetting and later on we even see the optical feed from the beam rifle being used to feed the cockpit after a unit loses its head.
>>24000456>>24000739the in story reason for the redundancies was because of minovsky particles making everything too hard to see/detect; technically even enough minovsky density can block visible light and create a literal fog of war making.there was a lot of guesswork between the pilot and the AI; so the best pilots could use their instincts (esp. the newtypes) to figure out where the enemy was in the fog.
>>23999048>>24000388It really can't be that heavy.Look how much it bounces off the ground.
